Joe Rogan Experience #10001 — JRE MMA Show #1 Transcript

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0:00 And we're live. I love doing it with Brendan. I think that's big because fighters have like these peaks and valleys and you never know where they're at The guy was off for four years, and he's stepping right in fighting Bisping, Like, to see him come back like that. It was weird to see. He's friendly. Donaher is a wizard, and he's done just this amazing job with Eddie Cummins

3:54 been killing tournaments that all those kids Nikki Ryan his brother too they're And he never stopped. Pettis and Poirier, holy shit, what a good fight that was. That's a big win, you know. Did he fight Gilbert Melendez? God damn it. I have to erase my brain data. Who knows what the fuck is going to happen now with Conor. taking a beating I think where the confusion was and I hope I'm not fucking this up we'll check

8:09 he was in a bad situation because the fight, technically speaking, was still going on. I don't want to read the whole thing, I had made my decision to step in with the belief that the bell had indeed been sounded, But it definitely seemed like, if I remember correctly, See, Conor runs in, could take it back would take it back because I'm sure he you know realized

11:20 there's many times i would believe that if they weren't very stringent in how they allow the athletes to behave, Like, you have to listen to the referee at all times. And I see that Conor thought it was over. It would have been Bruce Buffer. And he felt like that guy was done. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. put your hands on them you know roy roy uh nelson just was pissed off once at a late stoppage

14:19 It's all it is. He always takes his mouthpiece out a lot when play is not in action. even meant to throw it at him but either way he shouldn't be throwing his mouthpiece no when he's It's definitely different. You're just throwing it with your hand. To spit in the face, I think, is a dangerous move. There's always like a moment when someone spits in someone's face where there's this like terrifying moment of anything could happen here.

17:08 no that's threatening yeah that's threatening yeah you know if you if you like fake kicked even if I mean, seriously. Has it ever happened in the history of MMA, I don't think so. For the most part, they're very, you know, they're, they're accomplished. When I read some of the shit that he says and I see some of the shit he says, like he is just going for it.

19:41 I get it. I get people saying that. What I don't get is people saying that they're not paying attention. When Jeremy Stevens says something to him, he goes, who the fuck is that guy? And I think probably not even in his prime. I mean, I think everybody wants to be a shit-talker. But the problem with that is that's a weapon like that. that sure I've seen it happen for sure you got to do it up in the air or

22:12 Like, you're literally hitting a guy in the head with a weapon. He says boomerang's going straight out. covington this guy looks like he'd be really good at a boomerang let me see it come back oh shit Falcons are just, they don't know what to do? He couldn't catch it, but what a weird thing, you know? just threw it right hey comes back look at that it comes back yeah but do you

24:15 that virtual painting experience. throw on a stick and be like hey look i say this one comes back to you what could we use this for I mean, that's like, I know he wasn't trying to kill him. It looked like he just bought it or something. I think someone might have, yeah, he might have bought it or someone gave it to him or something. But these two guys are obviously in different weight classes, so they're never gonna It's like some people like it some people like the trash-talking, but these two guys are obviously in different weight classes

26:32 for the sport for all of us. Like, there's something about that that, yeah, it's not like, emotional. If a guy fucks with your head too much, you can get to a point where you're out of going to have. That's, you know, it's an interesting thing, the way people express themselves He's the UFC heavyweight champion of the world. You know? And it couldn't be nicer,

30:41 Maybe if he made one or two mean faces in his career, I might have missed it. He just was, when he fought Verdum, not making any excuses for him, like way in advance. So he totally He tapped out Minotauro Nogueira. Minotauro, when he tapped Mark Coleman, that was gigantic for jiu-jitsu. I hope they can make that. There's some concern about something that he said in an interview.

33:45 But the point is, like, they decided for whatever the reason was to remove Mark Hunt from the card and Fabrizio moved right into it. He could do that to almost anybody. The thing is like his level of jujitsu, he was a legitimate world champion there is a huge likelihood that he has a massive jiu-jitsu advantage. You stay smushed, man. that are like that as a heavyweight there's not a whole lot of guys that have that kind of guard

36:42 cro cop head kicked him. he's wearing shoes yeah that's crazy they let merco crow cop kick kickbox with shoes on You have to know how insane that is. And he's 40. remember that? Yeah, crazy. probably like some other shit, Vitor. Yeah. in a way that was kind of So to see him on the TRT makes you go, but if there was a way where Bellator decided, listen, let's be honest here.

40:49 gonna fight as a heavyweight king moe's gonna fight as a heavyweight big country's in it I like Ryan Bader as a heavyweight. doesn't that Frank Mir Do you know who that is? but I haven't heard anything about him training with a particular team. It said that he wants to fight in the UFC and do the 2020 Olympics. I don't know. It's got to be. in relationship to maybe some of the earlier days wrestlers.

43:53 He beat Kale Sanderson twice. Find out if that's true. No. Why is it saying sleep experiment? Keep going. How can I not? I don't even know what my point was. weird to watch but at the time i think Rulon Gardner had beaten him, What happened? there we go yeah A bunch of people were calling him a bitch for pulling out of the fight. It doesn't even make any sense.

48:23 For sure. Like, get the fuck out of here. fucking injured, period. End of discussion. He's not a bitch. He's not afraid of anybody. And then when they offered him the rematch because Frankie Edgar got injured, it is like that's how badass he is he just figured if i fucked you up once i'm gonna fuck you up what's so exciting about him is that he's not even close to done. You know, he has massive potential,

51:44 if he wanted to do some sort of unification bout. Max, I'll see you down the road. I'm just saying. maybe it's something I don't understand. Multiple time world Muay Thai champion, john wayne parr and it shows all the places and they put stitches on all the places where he's had actual stitches. face. It's like a mask of stitches, but he looks normal when you meet him. They did a great job

54:37 But, you know, he's still after it. Ron Stallings? Not a flying knee, but like jumped into it, And they have to stitch all that together. Oh, my God. Like someone stuck a machete in his head. why when he thought the fight wasn't over, he was furious, I get all of it, it's just like how he's taking everything into consideration and following the rules,

57:30 to taking five, six, seven, eight unanswered blows and not being okay. There is a difference. And I don't know what it is. He had a draw in one fight, won in the second fight. I don't know if the right move is to let a guy fight and let him recover and and and give him blasted him and he was on top blasting him and George knew he was going out. So he just,

1:00:35 the actual sport itself. Because I think if you analyze the actual sport itself, you can't see She might not have even known she was tapping. when you're getting smashed in the face like that, Versus a person who gets hit. And the only person who knows their ability to recover. and you can't just have the mental. player that was diagnosed with cte for the first time while he was alive we sort of glossed over

1:03:38 That high school kids who play a lot, and avoid the damage, where he's like gets super aggressive I fuck that up all the time. fight that TJ's asking for excited. I'll be so excited because I think this would be the first time in a long time where Mighty like a real, super confident world champion killer, TJ avoided all the chaos that John Lineker brings into the cage.

1:07:08 That's arguable. versus Mighty Mouse is the fight. That's the fight where you go, holy shit, which one of these guys He's fighting Cormier, who's just as good as they get. Number two. defends his title against Dan Henderson, at the end of the day blogs and whatnot the ufc decides what they're going to do right at the end want to see and what they can sell in ads but they don't officially say that it just creates more

1:10:38 That's an interesting fight. You're fighting a guy who's like one of the best counterstrikers on the planet Earth in Wonderboy. I'm not going to lie to you. And they're making these decisions, and they're so evenly matched that they're canceling each other out. When you think that Wonderboy is one of the best kickboxers that's ever fought in MMA. And those two fights between Tyron Woodley and Wonderboy

1:13:38 And that's enough, in my eyes, to give Tyron the decisions for sure. or up to 100 points, rather, Like, can we look at the stats? So if you're watching all these things happen, world-class guys, Firas Zahabi. a triangle is locked up until it's a fucking tap you know there's if you've never sparred a day in A lot of them are real martial artists, 100%.

1:16:27 But every now and then you get a decision where everybody looks at everybody I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, we're not using the same system back then. It wasn't far enough away where you couldn't see that. But now most of the states are adopting the full new MMA regulations. position that should be held in the highest of esteem right up there with referee I think this

1:19:01 You love him. And I go, you really think so? I think it was the first time at the UFC in New York. Yeah with the wall Harris fight. Yeah, it's a good move, man fights, right? Yeah, it was the Walt Harris fight I remember him, like, being pissed that he thought he'd lost, Who was it? curtis blades beat the shit out of him. That was Godbeer Walt Harris.

1:22:19 Correct, yeah, and Godbeer got the win on that. He was already done. Yeah, you're right. As soon as the referee saw the instant replay, he was like, okay, clear, he's okay. Like, did they all just get into a huddle and watch the video, or was there someone? I guarantee you they're going to agree on what it is. And we even got Mark Ratner on the air, and Mark Ratner thought it was a legal knee

1:24:45 foot was touching the ground and he got kneed in the face. And we got kneed in the face. They said yeah the knee means more than one right that's what they're going with. Well, I think when it landed, that right foot was elevated and was off the ground. That's legal. put me out of my misery. I don't know who's right or who's wrong, He palms him away and just boom, drops this beautiful elbow on him.

1:27:45 here, dude. For him to go limp like that, look at this. Boom. Totally on the back of the head. shit, that a lot of time goes in the back of the head. the back of the head's off limits. It seems like a good spot to hit. how come you can't do it all the time? I'm tired of saying this. in the eyeball what oh you're protecting your hands well that seems like cheating be, like, if you only hit someone with your hands so hard,

1:30:25 They took it too far. Did he get caught because of that picture? As far as it'll zoom in. The gauze shouldn't crack like that, right? which is why he had been smashing people, Dun-dun-dun! to be a plaster of Paris powder on the wraps. Dun, dun, dun. try to fight a world champion like Sugar Shane, but you were trying to cheat. You could easily break your hand.

1:33:48 You've seen the last few fights that he's had. And he outboxed him. I mean, he's just got greatness written all over him. Tyron Woodley and Nate Diaz. And now he's been bumped up to this. So yeah. November 11th. too much either, because he's a big guy. He was getting tired. Tim Means and Bilal Muhammad, that's a serious fight. I'll be in. The UFC is my home.

1:38:05 It's a higher level for Bellator. I think there's some fighters that prefer do better in Bellator. I think Lamas, like But there's a bunch of talent over there now. He's terrifying for everybody. It doesn't matter what organization you fight for. That guy's a No, I think that was a good first.