Joe Rogan Experience #10005 — Stipe Miocic Transcript
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0:00 Ohio guy. They're everywhere. Even when you won the title. It's just hard to explain. It's like its own nation. Actually, I love Columbus, too. I've had a bunch of blurry nights there. We have a lot of our coaches go down there for local MMA shows. Pull the sucker up. How the fuck has a heavyweight champion of the world never been on a podcast before?
1:58 I think that was one of them. It doesn't really matter in my household. You finally got a title fight. I mean, you know, I'm excited for him. what stands out? You know, and he's a little wild, too, which that's tough. Yeah, Overeem's got a weird style now, right? with Ngannou but what I saw was he's doing all these wild punches I'm like you know when he
4:32 I think I'll be all right. Curtis Blades took him down? Because it's not, right? I'm going out there to win. Oh, today, I'm talking about their fight. So, did you have a feeling that January was going to be the card? That's why it took me a while. I think it's funny. I think it's funny. So now here we are. And I'm like, hmm. And that trend is the low leg kick.
7:08 It fucking sucks, right? Going up the stairs after that fight was the hardest thing ever. He's a trainer with us, so he's a good dude, and he just loved it. what i'm working on right now in 2016 so over that it takes off for a while no but yeah it's yeah it's You know, you came into the sport with everything. I'm like, oh, this is easy. And here we are.
9:29 Now you're the UFC heavyweight champ. Especially coming in with a wrestling background. I always use that. I'm sure you're a boxing fan. Fuck your cock balls. Really? going to be the champion he said before he was conceived holy shit that's that's some russian He's like Slides away from leg kicks the coach just threw the towel in. Yeah. raised the bar where people look at what footwork
12:23 I'm so happy to be alive to watch this. I mean, just the fucking guy barely gets hit. He doesn't care. Yeah. not to that, That, with that kind of footwork, like if you look back at the olden days and you look back at today, He just had a teep to the thigh. And if you do, people are going to pass you out. Specialized training where you're not dealing with a bunch of people that are already champs.
15:31 You know, I'm not better than anyone else. Like, guys coming in, they're like, oh, yeah, I want to train. And all of a sudden, they're like, come out, like, a few just great watching, like, you know, our gym, like, guys coming in. He's on his third pro fight. whether it's the discipline to keep and I thought I was unstoppable, and Struve beat me. Like, I don't even care what happens.
17:05 You know, but I'm going to go out there and get my damn this to win. And I'm going to do is put it all out there. If I'm going to win, I'm going to lose. I don't really care. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. But I'm going to go out there and get my damn list to win. Here we go. You're not mean mugging him. I'm not going to like get emotional about stuff.
18:12 I do good things for her. Yeah, gold digger. I couldn't think of that. I'm an idiot. But yeah, something like that. She's been there a, what do they call it? What's the word? Gold digger? There we go. Yeah, gold digger. I'm just like, who cares? You're just going to lose a contest. It helped a little bit when I actually took my mom there. he's trying to make me laugh
19:35 I look to my buddies Like, Your friends are always your friends. Do you do anything like that? I did it a few times, and I walked every time. and that's when I started getting that mentality like why do I Maybe she's just nosy. I'm like, right. You know what I mean? Like most people just keep things bottled up inside. He just bottled it up. And now it's just talking to that lady and just opening up more.
22:48 you know if i did before it'd be a lot easier but i can't just take a test because you have So I literally work probably five times in about two weeks. The way I pick my schedule, if I have to do it, I could trade someone, is that a lot of times you get those 24-hour shifts, you know, It's a crazy job because when you have to do something, It looked like it was Armageddon.
24:38 But the terrible thing is once it gets crispy. I think there's a lot of psychos out there. What was it? I think there's definitely some accidents, I mean, you were having chunks of embers Listen, man, snow, you just need snow tires. They had to get evacuated. Yeah. back, let's go, TV or your clothes, while you'd be fine everybody will live as long as you get out you're all right you'll you'll
27:21 Like there's no one driving like a fucking crazy psychopath when it's snow. New York. Whatever it was yeah um so It was like stuff everywhere. Wow. Then our barn, we have a barn. Now we're good. Yeah, are you handy? Do you fix shit? Oh, yeah, I know. Are you going to fix the garage? No, I have, ooh, I'm okay. I'm safe. Yeah. I'm like, what are you doing?
29:24 I mean, I do help him out, but it's mostly, it's all him. You're lucky. Yeah. Lucky to know somebody who to fix something. I'm like, all right, cool. I'll see you at the gym. So he comes over and does that for me. I mean, I do help him out, but it's mostly, it's all him. Can you make a house? Like little doors. That was like a big thing. I mean. No.
30:40 This is where I go and I watch TV and I relax and I do fun stuff. To burn it all out in the gym and then home is peace. I really just chill. feel better you know what the fuck my buddy's like I mean, it's so funny to get direct messages and stuff like that. It's so funny. we went to a Bud Light party So anyway, I'm like, do you want anything? I'm going to go get some macaroni and cheese looking around because like, you know, there's a lot of good looking girls. I'm like this, you know, and so anyway, I'm like,
32:48 I'll never forget that, it turns around, he was being nice. It's gotten worse. But they're good guys. They had to go to Vegas. I felt bad for them, though, because, like, really, so I won the title on Saturday. I was in the cast. The UFC's like, hey, dude, here's a jersey. I'm like, I was it was so many people. Bro, it was so bad. Do you think there's any benefit of keeping a day job?
35:31 It keeps my mind off of it. You know, I just, plus I love helping people. And then, yeah, so. So, like, if you just hit the lottery tomorrow and you got $100 million. You going to keep that job? Trust me. They want loans, right? It came back. The guy with the mustache that last night I was talking about. So, yeah, he actually started his own business, helped him out,
37:44 This can't miss. Yeah, I don't play that. Those people are my favorite. This can't miss. Yeah, exactly. Like, say, if you're going to do a big camp We kind of just figure it all out. Yeah, he's a grappling kind of more of my dude. Just makes me feel good about myself. How much strength and conditioning do you do? We have a Westside Barbell. Yeah, dude, Louie Simmons is the bomb.
39:28 My coach is one of the OGs with him. So, you know, I do that. It is a work of art. It's, that thing's amazing, man. Yeah, it depends what I do. five minutes. And then the other one I did like burbans. Keep moving a little bit like that. like oval rings, and they had chains on them. It's pretty cool. And you do operate on rounds? No, I just push it to the limit.
42:45 And then like eight weeks in, I was like, ooh, and just died. like when to push too hard how do you know when you're peaking when to back off well every fight Just soreness, yeah. if I had two weeks, man, my mind straight, It feels right for me. he was one of the best of the fight He goes, I might swim a little bit because I don't do shit. And he's like, that's how I want to be when I'm fighting.
44:55 Get my mind right too, you know. Is it menthol on those cigarettes? Who knows? I go to a chiropractor a couple times a week. worst time of my life. I'd never pulled out of a fight before. it was it was so bad i my back was so messed up like i would did you get an mri yeah so my my my So it's a muscle that's connected inside your thigh, inside your bone,
47:26 it was disgusting. awesome dude. So it was like a muscle You ever do yoga? Yeah. Because it's hard to do. I probably should is. Yeah. That's why it's supposed to be good for you. Yeah. I was like, you're a terrible instructor. Yeah. No, no, no. helps stabilize everything. that I put up last night Gregoriatus? He was in the early London Real. and then but now i do it pretty regularly we did uh the sober october thing no booze no pot 15 hot
50:35 Really? And then he was killed by his own son, who was also a scam artist. sometimes with some people you can relieve some of the pain. Yeah, I don't think that's real. I get it massage and then I get adjusted and it felt good like everything loosened up and but when I talk to guys that are It's like, that's not how you fix things. And they're like, no, this is why you're in pain.
53:41 a period of like two or three months then I got another MRI, and it went away. massage. If I had to guess it just, but I don't know I mean there may be there's some method to it You know cupping? But they take this cup and it sucks all your your skin Yeah. Interesting. How about Google? Does cupping work? Is cupping therapy? Okay, how about Google, does cupping work?
55:59 Yeah, how does it work? Facts. of... Okay, you fucked me with this chi. No, you know what pulls toxins out of your body? Yeah, your sweat does. Yeah, you ever seen that? Now I need a colonic. without putting anything in there, and the water still turns black. Yeah. Look, I did it with my hands, my healing, my Reiki healing. They like doing it like that.
59:38 edge of the business they almost all use ice yeah yeah they don't think that you're not supposed to use ice within. I was like, this sucks. Yeah, right? a very unique system their their system is um it's first of all the guys that developed it what So you go in there with full, like you're breathing in this cold air. cold shock proteins, What do you got after this?
1:02:37 My wife's like, just go. Like, it does suck because, like, you're in your center, Conor McGregor's argument was when he went on that world tour with Aldo, Yeah, that was like, I mean, I was there after the flight. My wife and me and my wife come home, of the, in a long time. it was just so weird, There's like rainbows, like toucan sand next to me. when you have a big fight with a guy like say mark hunt well you know could
1:05:36 No. that they posted uh yesterday of uh these guys in australia with a 39 foot boat and a shark swam by I mean, wow. This happens a lot apparently. What is this one, Jamie? The 18 foot shark next to the 21 foot boat oh my god that thing is big see how big the boat is jesus christ it's huge and it's just swimming next to the boat No, no, the whole thing jumped in.
1:07:45 Yeah. So the fish was trying to get away from a shark? No, I think he just jumped in. Oh, yeah. I saw the seal one time. I said, listen, let's just go fishing. Probably 10 feet off the coast. because that's what they do. Like its tail would be flapping out. My thought was like, we're going to go catch some mahi-mahi. smash this marlin right in front of her it just was the total wrong experience like my youngest
1:10:06 I mean. Isn't it fun? tuna i forget what they're called but we would go and there would be uh they would follow these So I'm not sure like what part of the ocean it was, but it's great. But much of like the best cuts of meat that you get like from a butcher I mean, I used to like back in the day. It's not big at all. And they're like, I bet you this person wins.
1:12:18 It was winter, middle of winter. a video of these these massive snapping turtles they're like hate fucking each Where I live, it's weird. Must be half decent if you cook it right. That chick is a fucking savage. But for her, I think she did it in two, right? When she was here, she just kept eating candy that's right some days I'll have pizza 240. I think there should be a lot more weight classes.
1:15:23 You can't say you're a tweener. a few more weight classes. That seems silly to me. He weighed 263, 263 or 264. Yeah, no, he's cutting weight oh cool yeah yeah he's a big fellow I think so. No? 259. So it filled out good. so I go on Wikipedia and I start reading all about it. yeah yeah so they run through the night well he he didn't sleep at night so he would just run
1:18:42 like he's like they they watched him sleep while he was running. and it was the size of a grapefruit. This is the one guy, the Cliff Young shuffle. Yeah, look at him. She just won, she just beat the world record for the most amount of hours I literally sat by in the van driving five miles per hour behind these people running. He put an IV in him. I see the guy running.
1:21:26 is a grueling affair, right? This was a lady that was winning. But she still won. I don't know. I wrestled a guy in college one time that shit his pants. And he's like, I got to shit so bad. but I was convinced I was going to shit myself. Thank god I shit because whatever came out of me Yeah it was a big one because it was like uh definitive it was like
1:24:04 one of the best title fight winning performances ever. They're just great people. You have a great relationship with your coaches too, Yeah, yeah. to be happy you know that's the best kind of coach man that's the best kind of coach that way when Yeah, I mean. Yeah. beyond or you're not i mean that's just how it is yeah but there's also stages in your life too
1:27:07 Verdun was so emotional we knew exactly he went for a takedown, Yeah. Right. So I gave him a couple extra ones. But before I said, I'm a world champ, I looked at my coaches. too because it was so quiet in there. You could see it. You know, it was 45,000. And when I knocked them out, they were all going, yeah, they're going crazy. They were in a really nice spot.
1:29:53 Nothing. It was awkward. Yeah. You know, she's like, hey, you know, my son actually did something with his life. you've got all these lightweight guys about a big heavyweight title fight. I mean, there's no question. When you see the rest of the heavyweight division, And this is what he said. It's not like he gave up. I mean, he fought his heart out, but he got caught and got choked out. honestly right now I feel relieved and I was like wow that's crazy yeah you know
1:33:16 what's gonna happen but you're not concerned that all these guys nipping at your heels all like, you know, fighting JDS, fighting Overdue, you know, Nagani. Well, you know, it's an interesting thing, too, Because I think UFC is a promotional entity, but it's also like this sanctioning body. like now for it outrageous shit Like, I'm just going to do my thing.
1:35:39 I'll shit-talk the best of them. Does he have to go to court for that? He wasn't trying to hit him. Yeah. Yeah, I do. No. are in a promoting company. That's what you're supposed to do. I've never seen anything like that. and they're very good fighters as well, in Conor's case, great fighters as well. But like I said, I just want to go out of my way and just have other stuff to worry about,
1:38:28 He never talked shit. Then somewhere to a lot of shit talkers of the modern era. I did a couple of his radio shows. I think – I've always said that, like, people just need to – All they see is this stoic fireman who goes out there and fucks people up, Like you said, there's 500 people on the roster and all that. I think those help me out a little bit, too.
1:40:15 I laugh. in the world yeah I deleted it or something he's a paper champion he's talking about me like no I don't care I think it's funny. That guy. It's like, what are you going to say, bitch? Most likely. If you keep going, eventually, you'll be 80. Someone're going to lose someday. That's the worst thing they could say. Yeah, probably. Most likely.
1:41:59 And someone will be there to help him out. I feel like I'm 95, man. What's a big skag? It's 61 inch like it's like a commercial on more I wake up in the morning and my wife's like, I'm like fourth in my house, man. She does a lot for me. And I wouldn't. Oh! Maybe should do something like that for like Instagram to like an Instagram video you here we go I
1:44:26 for this fight and then just put it together I'm alright like unfortunately I'm like, honey, can I have some covers, please? It's the worst. whatever I do, some type of my condition, like my sparring session, Or how do you try to accelerate the recovery? where you can know when to do it and when not to. I'm fine. just because I'm so used and something tweaks.
1:47:09 We're just, you know, a couple cocktails, a little day drinking. Yeah, it was after the fight. Wow. I get punched in the on the way to to grab shampoo and just no Some people, I'm sure it works. They put those things on your legs. The compression. Yeah, when I had knee surgery, they had this awesome, like, contraption, like, wrapped around your leg.
1:50:01 Yeah. treadmill so i put on these super tights these super tight things and i zip myself up and i and it lifts me up so I don't pound my feet as much and my leg and my knees whatever it is one of your main forms so I get done with sparring I work my head moving. I started to wrestle here soon. So mostly a lot of wrestle. I started wrestling here soon.
1:51:58 and then Fridays is more of a recovery run, let my body rest. dealing with 240 pounds Hmm. I think soft tissue stuff, they're going to be able to fix that. Yeah, my wife just posted on. Yes. I wanted long, slender fingers, so I cut them off. Like you're going to be able to, with her own skin. I don't know how great it is. That's got gotta feel good
1:54:10 and getting banged up so January 20th No, thanks for having me, man. O-H-I-O.