Joe Rogan Experience #10006 — Eddie Bravo Transcript

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0:00 Dude, so I was looking at this video today of this dude jumping this cliff in his bike. take your risks look at this fucking guy. I don't know. to his death. Damn. Yeah, dude. You know, so many regular skydiving jumps. There's a lot of videos. It's a flying wingsuit. Well, you know the one guy that did die And he hit the bridge. But when he was trying to do it, he literally slammed right into the bridge.

3:23 Give it some volume, Jamie. Oh, my God. Why should you be able to? They start developing traumatic brain injuries. It's too late for that shit. on an hbo special uh they get all kinds of brain issues. Has that happened in MMA? have Lou Gehrig's. No, but he's got some serious Big Daddy. Can't be surprised though. They're learning technique so that it's perfect,

7:09 Like, you know, what was that guy's name? So we said, let's just go up there and watch. And the ka-chink was the chains of the bag. from when I remember when I was in high school Was a rising star with the Red Sox so I'm way later than this so I must have been just here and line for the train was fucking huge so everybody's getting on the the t so we were kids you know

9:42 And, man, I was as poor as poor can be. I mean, we didn't have any money. Right there. Can I do it without saying his name? Oh, yeah. And that's why I think to this day, like, if I hadn't walked up those stairs, I could have went to some bullshit school. world championships he was training he was a national champion at the time so he and he was He was a Korean dude. An actual Korean.

12:14 He was like Henzo Gracie. because like to throw a kick that's hard, And if you really dug in and tried to kick hard, a lot of times those guys would outscore you. but there's emphasis on power thing. It is. It's attacking the leg. Because when everything is legal in Jiu Jitsu, when everything's like, it's the same thing with leg locks and jujitsu. It's the same thing. It is.

14:19 Then you got to get his back. You have to do, whether you like it or not, you have to deal with it. Everybody attacks the legs. Who the fuck ever did that to Robbie Lawler? He's a fucking animal. I mean, he was just taking out his leg. the game. I really do. Remember when I think, but what's crazy is it's pretty recent. What, just taking the legs out?

17:00 Rivera just constantly chopped at that leg, and Uriah's leg became almost useless. Those Bruce Lee kicks, those oblique kicks that a lot of guys are using, it twice you have to block that first knee you got to react to that first knee and it helps the to focus you got to always be it's just so hard to get really good at one thing while you're doing

19:10 it seems like the days of just going out there boxing Muay Thai. They use the clinch. I mean, it's just, I don't think there's hardly anybody that's going over to thailand and just trying to box muay thai fighters it's a terrible idea and there's so He was laying people out with that turning sidekick. if like Dennis Seaver had all the rest of his skills,

21:22 At least two? That throws your whole game off. You're like, what the fuck, man? You should come. When you got a family, it's like- Seriously, I really am. don't we don't normally do super fights in EBI because we I take all the purse money that we yeah for sure you could there's a bunch of different ways to look at it uh um an mma purist that they're just that's right they just want to watch the jiu-jitsu but with the strikes and

24:53 So which is fine, you know jujitsu. I love submission. Oh, yeah We don't have to sit through the striking. Nobody wants to see that. So that's a new thing. I constantly am thinking of ways to ruin the show. It just, Yes. He mounted Nathan Orchard and, You never, whether they're strikes or not. that's the guard it's going to be the most important one when a guy could smack your head

28:56 In sub only, if you mount, you can't strike. But when there's strikes, you're going to let a dude mount you now? Okay, palms strike hard. Because dudes aren't slapping. They a monstrous it is. Palm strikes. Okay, palm strike. Exactly. There would be nobody going for rear naked chucks. or did he choke him i don't remember he smashed him i'm not sure how he finished him but i do

31:17 So, like, part of me, I see. Look at this back mount, and then boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, and now watch. Oh, that is hilarious. and you don't have it as we're allowing, Remember when Rampage stopped Chuck Liddell You're opening up the door So it'll teach. because generally, before combat jiu-jitsu, they're working on that every day to win those styles, whether,

34:19 he trained with Danny at first. Then he started training with Gio and boogie down in San Diego. guard, it's a wrap. He does a You've seen it. That's a good question. I'm pretty flexible, but I'm not that flexible. Because I feel like there's this conversation that people have when it comes to flexibility. Can you train someone to do those crazy? Can anybody train to be a contortionist?

36:53 unless you have like metal plates in your hips or something. it's hard to breathe like we do hamstring stretches it's like it's hard to breathe Maybe it is but when you think about it. I trying to show off by putting my legs behind my head. Maybe it is. Yeah, I don't do it anymore, but as a kid I did it all the time even with dirt It's your foot. We'll talk about it afterwards.

39:21 Dr. Rob, is it? Around the ankle area He's doing it right now. Look at him work. is currently held by Nick Holmstein. He just wanted it here. dude the facility is incredible it's awesome they throw a fuckload of money at that stuff he's been hurt a couple top 10 pound for pound in the world, for sure. 155. But he kicks so hard. Like, Rafael dos Anjos is very disciplined, very driven.

43:22 um uh jumps over uh hurdles over hurdles and those horses. You're working your feet. knew the result before i watched it i got to watch it after the fact i didn't watch it live because Robbie Lawler's hurt. And he's right in front of him in the middle of the fight. Remember he was getting, it was Elite XC? Yeah. He fought Tim Kennedy at 185. Look how much bigger he looks back then.

46:28 Man. Yeah. mma mma mark hunt one punch damn he KO'd mark hunt with one punch mark hunt charged out of At the very least. I know it happened, but I don't remember it. one of the most charismatic guys from that generation. for sure, right? Hell yeah. are. Sakuraba never held his hands Remember that? Look at the size of Melvin. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

50:04 How did they not stop this fight? Boom? How did they not stop this fight? he was kneeing him in the head. Somebody He dropped him. And walk away. Oh, this is... It didn't land, I guess. I think he was in the UFC at that point. and he just basically butt scoot most Referee Big John McCarthy stops the fight Yeah, we didn't think anybody some guy who doesn't even have a black belt is going to tap.

52:34 That was devastating for me. Yeah. Man, he got it on him and took the armbar. Yeah. Just the wrong people, like Vanderlei. That was just a terrible matchup. in some wild fights and some of them with people you had no business being in there with just the It was Gilbert Ivo against... I was fine. You ready to go? It was against Don Fry. No, no, no. Like, why were they checking on him?

54:57 Yeah, and Big Daddy Goodrich KO'd Don Fry with a head kick. That was the main event. Here's the Gary Goodridge, Don Fry one. knockout probably in history. He got one back. he was standing in the ring. What if he was like on death's door and they decide look he's he's gone from this dimension He had no idea it was his sister. You don't get inside scoops anymore?

57:31 I think he stands out as the number one guy in terms of, like, guys getting another shot at the title. title fight like how about You know, the only fine for Doom, like 500 bucks for hitting him in the head with a boomerang. it's going to be Ben Saunders versus Alan Joban. say hey man we're both templating you know can find other opponents and they said no so they

59:30 You've been to a lot, that's for sure. like points shit out he was uh i forget the two dudes that were fighting there's a there's an don't want to find who the toughest guy is he goes you want to find out who the best boxer is these You know, the heavyweight champion? I think his brother was like a world champion PKA karate style kickboxer. I told him he'd get killed, but he's still talking about doing it.

1:01:55 just fought at 185 pounds. That guy's huge. GSP. No. He's always wearing furs and shit. Yeah, he's on top of the world, man. He's very big. George I think Tony Ferguson is the fight. No. He's training. Yeah, that will probably happen. I would not be mad at that. Yeah, that will probably happen. slowly chipping him away. But you can't wall walk on everybody.

1:05:40 They asked Tony, did you notice his staph? And then he had his left foot pushed him up, kicked up, and then just stood up. but he couldn't do anything It was perfect. We broke it down. I mean, really, I never watch kickboxing. I have no idea. and then go watch them kickboxing. Turkish Tyson. You've got to think about those goddamn leg kicks. One of the best fights ever.

1:09:19 That's crazy. you probably have more of a chance You've got to learn that. It could take forever. They had a crazy rule with Vandele versus Krokop. So it was real weird, man. so vanderley goes down like literally he was an axe murderer that was his nickname Yes, he clipped him on the head and you could see I know he fought Mark Hunt with wrestling shoes on.

1:11:53 wrestling shoes What a savage. young they made him push that wheel and that's how he got so strong Francis and Heavyweights don't move that fast. He was grueling in dangerous work, spending hours shoveling sand into the backs of trucks You want to talk about that Drake song? No. from where he was and he only two years ago man it's only two years ago, man.

1:15:34 please this is has anybody got gone the distance with him or is he knocking Anthony Hamilton, yeah. Luis Enrique was before that. Yeah, straight armbar. think of someone who's more impressive than him physically. Right. Then you have a guy who just Like this place is insane. Brings his coach and start he's not usually on the ground right not usually on the ground but he's a very good wrestler

1:19:19 Yeah, I mean, he's got to know everything. One submission by leg kicks, though. He's no joke, man. Smashed him. that's him and Struve but this was He likes to ground and pound. That's also Volkan Ozdemir hard. That's a good fucking card, man. is. I think it's not throwing him under the bus i mean he's even joked around he said uh to dc when dc was talking

1:22:57 like dude this shit yokes me out yeah right yeah probably maybe that's just that that's just the way to sell steroids you I don't know. I mean, it really depends Wait a minute, wait a minute. And so when they're cutting this cocaine with this creatine that has steroids in it, he's snorting the coke. That he did coke and it had creatine in it They cut it with, I mean, I'm not a cocaine doctor,

1:25:31 And they test it. he was stunned and you look at tim he doesn't he even lifts weights he doesn't remotely look like a guy who uses steroids and they tested the stuff that they found just randomly in pour out the steroids and they pour a bag of creatine in there for the next batch and they're That's a super common thing when you're dealing with these overseas laboratories

1:27:43 I'm not saying that's what happened, but I'm saying you have to take into Okay, cool. Those gas station dick pills. had taken dick pills and that's why he tested positive? you get real aggressive. Your dick is hard as a And they found it and they tested it. He's like, he probably does that. The question is, did he actually take a steroid with the intention to cheat?

1:29:58 Yeah. Dude, the moment they can give you eyes that work better than your eyes. If you didn't know, He'd probably kill people. Just punch holes right through their chest. You could leg lock them all day. Would that be legal? bicep area he had a fake arm he should do mma just knock the fuck out of people he might kill For sure. That's going to be crazy shit.

1:31:49 people would chop their fucking legs off You'd be like, what the fuck is that? It can't be real. Just iron fists. powerful Jamie like oh you broke your arm like mom I don't know what to do TV shows back then were garbage. that's the best show they did have and that Yeah, I get it. And he doesn't know when the game's on and when it's off? Yeah. Whoa.

1:35:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't even think we could begin to comprehend it. Let's see them. One of the guys is like, it's a drone. It's in like gun sites or like, you know, at my asa so they're following it for a while and then it changes direction No. Here's the thing about aliens, right? They won't even be able to see it. we would never see them again.

1:38:54 How often would they come by? That was old. I would never think there's no way Would it even be in a physical form anymore? It's for our onstage ear. listening. Like seven different that they've decided to eliminate the headphone jacks from phones. They have this little lightning thing on the iPhones, thing at the bottom of that. They're fine. don't need a speaker, you definitely need a speaker, but

1:42:03 it's the best audio on a phone ever. Even when you have an aux cable. but it's just built into all the headphones. Right. car dealerships are like what are we doing You get in those things, you're like, God, it sounds perfect. That's really interesting, right? And if you look at what Holly's weakness in the Misha Tate fight, such a she's such a good sport after that she showed a picture of her with a white belt on

1:45:03 on the stuff on the ground let's just keep it up on our feet. They think that why would I ever want to learn this stuff on the ground? I think Cyborg's going to go right at her. Dude, he's very good. Oh, yeah, he beat Thomas Almeida. Does it say that? Tiger Schulman's is a really respected name in MMA right now. they adapted and they put out some real good fighters. Remember Luis Gaudino, the kid with the green hair?

1:47:19 Neil Magny was the first fight where I realized how goddamn good I mean, in my mind, he's one of the best right now, You know, Robbie's not shot by any stretch of the imagination. highlights. A couple years ago. Get your shit together. So he's got to rest up, maybe get surgery. Did you see that fight? And then he's been on a win streak since. I mean, he's just got to catch it clean.

1:50:41 Yeah, the Jake Allenberger KO was right after Alan Joban. who's a bad that guy throws There was a fight where both those guys were on the edge a lot. I don't know if Joanna I mean, Rose caught her, You hear two guys consistently. But he's got a real good record. He's missed weight. He's so fucking talented. It was like, but it was, he snaps his punches, man.

1:53:31 Powerful fuck. It's super powerful and a good wrestler, too That's what a lot of people forget one of the reasons why he can strike so good as he's so fucking hard to take down I'm surprised you remember that. trainer i mean he he's always drilling always teaching teaching privates drilling his boys Just because he's got all kind of game. We practice his best stuff.

1:55:34 I mean, since since EBI won, when the Danaher Death Squad came in and just started dominating, boom, that's when the leg lock game just exploded. And Paul Horace is leg locking everybody He's the 145 champ, but... People are fucking... They're very secretive. training with them yep um yep and um oliver taza he's awesome they got a lot their crew they're

1:58:05 You know, our rivalry with them, 10th Planet and DDS, it's only because they're so goddamn good. that's that dominant, They're elevating It was so huge and it's just elevating the game. Think which is a lot and he only has one loss in EBI So I don't know. I mean, so he's not, maybe he needs time off, you know, So there's so much pressure And he just took what he did in his last fight against Cub Swanson.

2:01:18 as he faked, it loosened up the guillotine. him personally about it but to, that's what it looked is high level Jiu Jitsu. He's was it a darts or an anaconda? Those are all very simple chokes to learn. Anybody can. You could learn a Muay Thai plum clinch in 30 seconds. And he comes from Rafael Cordero. Just like the same way some guys can throw a nasty left hook to the body because they just have ridiculous –

2:04:53 guard you need a dish that needs special time too has has nothing to do with the AJ wasn't gonna take him down. AJ was hopping on one foot. He drags him down. That clinch Cabrinha has. He drags him down to the ground, and then before he could pop up, he lets go and jumps on a front headlock that clinch on the single. That's interesting. a little second here,

2:07:16 a lot of dudes, just keep getting better and then levels to chaining the movements that's a different that's you can capture someone in quarter guard. worse than quarter guard where you're just controlling his ankle there's half guard you How are we gonna get the full guard? So it's a little climb, ankle, full leg. Now I got your full body. Now I got them in full guard,

2:09:05 sweep and try to get on top i'm on the bottom use half guard supes get the dog fight electric chair I'm not gonna spend that much time on the back, You got to chain all those moves together to make it happen. What? More humble, but a lot of pressure. it's Abu Dhabi every night. If you could handle it and you go in if your ego can handle the competition every night it's abu dhabi every night if you can handle and you go in there like

2:10:53 That's why it's so much fun. That's life itself though. It's like a microcosm. Yeah, exactly. It's like all the shit that's going on in the world when we see bad things. brought that up many times about like hillary clinton yeah do you mind how many people criticize Yeah, but there's not people out there. It's not that I necessarily want to see evil but I

2:13:30 You know, UFC fight pass the next, between Nick Holstein, who's the current champion, and Ben Eddy, the new low-teen master. Thanks, everybody.