Joe Rogan Experience #10015 — Brendan Schaub Transcript

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0:00 I might do a show with Diaz in New York. Maybe, brother. And he's going to talk to him if he gets confused in Spanish. We'd have an amazing podcast, you and me. his ability to just be calm and then explode it's very terrifying it's only helped by him Talking about Stoolgate? They cut the glove, baby. Yeah, it ain't the right way to do it. Intense, smart motherfucker.

2:46 He's a human. What's he doing now? and now he's fighting Carlos Condit. So he was His white ass was in Cuba with the wrestling team for six fucking weeks for one of the camps for one of his fights. If you pull up his record, it was fairly recently. He has one more left, though, yeah? who is the constrictor feels like him all the time wrestling with him is like wrestling

4:42 strong just looks like a fit Correct. And what he did in Neil Magny I thought Neil Magny was going to give him a real good fight. Doesn't it seem he's stronger? got more speed. He can do everything really well. where they're doing this hydration test. at the very least i mean maybe if i had to bet on and i'm a betting man i'd put some a lot of No, he's a brilliant guy, and he's just smart and unique as a person.

7:53 it's a no-brainer. You want to It's like the Floyd Mayweather thing. Yeah. i don't want it i don't want it i'm can't you just give me this like yo let me let me holler I guarantee you I could sell Ben Askren. There's no longevity in that, but it's very entertaining. You've got to sprinkle that kind of style in every now and then. That's real shit. so, I love Frankie, but I'm such like a Max Holloway fan.

10:14 thing that I do where I don't want sometimes that's just you're on a boat and there's holes and you think if you paddle further away Luke can beat him. I've seen a better version of Luke. He might be just like Whitaker and just like, who else were we talking about? I actually want my fighter like that. When you reset, you've got to go, man. You've got to go.

12:46 He's a monster This is his second round in the UFC He was in strike forces when he got to the UFC when he was champion. When he gets that back, we're in good form. He's a very powerful guy. Two lefts. Yol Romero smash. Mark Goddard I hear you unless you ran up for 240 and I get no I think it's a perfect stoppage He gets cracked by Gray Maynard in two fights to the point where it looks like it's over.

15:29 back, he goes, what's crazy, I said that is such bro sign Frankie. Look at me when I tell you this you had brain trauma that fight man He does this to these young kids, man. see him in training in practice this where henner gracie and here on gracie just hey man don't be scared off your back you're because the guys were tired, 100%. go I'll take that killer gets legend as it gets yeah but now in fight Brian or

18:52 that's incredible They got Eddie Alvarez, who's a monster. And, you know, for Eddie Alvarez and Frankie and Barbosa, Henry. Dude, that's a hell of a camp right there. That's a hell of a camp. It's ridiculous. motherfucker to take down like eddie and i have struggled man i said i think how good khabib is Barbosa's face was like, what the fuck? And then you know this guy can take you down again.

21:04 It's like ISIS torching, man. Completely different animal. He's Darcy's world-class. Here's the x-f Tony and Khabib is, to me, Tony's getting taken down. Now, Kevin Lee's a different grappler than Khabib. And you don't like doing MMA math, but they both fought Barboza, and Tony was able to finish him. It's Tony gets better, but he thrives in that kind of dog situation where he's just going going going

23:15 Yeah, it seems. That is a super fight. Oh Volkan, you got, oh, there are levels to this shit, kid. Correct. Oh, Volcon, you got time, son. and that is no picnic. He threw me around That just shows you how fucking great Jon Jones He's on another level. Best of all time DC goes, oh, cool, hold my beer, and then just does his thing. Yeah, DC gets that belt.

25:24 Yeah, so you're telling me there's a chance. You can't really agent, though. You know what I'm saying? That's his agent. Is his agent Jim Carrey? Yeah, right. It is entirely possible that he accidentally took that. is just a rumor that was going around not pay you to say anything on this podcast. a word for you don't yeah and he might have dude i've talked to him about it in the past do you

26:52 I'd 100% be willing to do that. Did you see what he did to Korshkov? You see what he did to Lima? A long time ago, yeah. I'm like, that's amazing. But that card was amazing. put it on him, man. Blasted him. I didn't want anyone to lose that fight. He's a legend. Don't give him the fucking wrestler. He's a legend. He almost won by knockout, though, and Mark's hard to take down.

29:12 One of the best heavyweights, not one of the best wrestlers. If it happened in Australia, he could have knocked out anybody at that I understand what you're saying, and then he knocks out someone next. Like, who could they going to fight next? Mark Hunt knocks out, hold on a second, he knocks out him, and then he knocks out someone some fucking real interesting fights, but

30:59 There's no new blood, really. Like, what happens if DC loses, or leaves, rather? However, can you know fight? He's not gonna fight for the title right away Look at the heavyweight division though You're off the Francis train? Really? Yeah, I'm going to wrestle your ass. There's no technique as wrestling there. We saw what he did to him. Stipe figured him out.

34:08 So is Kane, though. He'll break everything. Where Stipe is very controlled. chaining takedowns together and beating you up on the way down you're like wow um javier mendez said There's no riding this storm out. Yeah, there's something going on. Think about the relentless approach in DC's fights, very similar, against Stipe. But the cardio of DC's Can be an issue

36:11 Does he Standing up and he showed that in the the vulcan fight he cracked vulcan his his stand-up is very good Me too. he's like 5'11", He knocked out Overeem. Right now, you have to say he is because he won the title three. Stipe is the heavyweight fucking champion of the world. It's very strange. That's what it is. He has some other gear in him, but also at heavyweight,

38:50 You're talking about WNBA to NBA All-Stars. That slammed him. And then he showed respect to Anderson Silva. that fight, though. This is Dan Henderson. The technique's amazing. That's difficult. He's hard. That's difficult. He's becoming a superstar. tough and he throws dudes around like right there what do you get his highlight reel right now what His wrestling is just so many notches above most of the people he fights, which makes you even more fucking impressed with Jon Jones.

41:07 If I had one of those men in black things where I could erase people's memory, I'd erase And remember, in the first fight, John took him down. John's on many levels. All of that. a five round war. fucking horrific. The arm bar, Dude, he wouldn't tap. It's one of the things that makes him special. there's no hookers, there's no dick pills just the actual chaos of

43:59 and he didn't party. Self-proclaimed. You have to have the whole thing. and then still go in there with a world-class athlete like a Ryan Bader or a Gus Finn Why you gotta do that shit, man? Let him do his thing. Is it a crime to take dick pills and a little coke? He should be able to do both. But that's going to be a problem if he's not fully dedicated as time moves forward.

46:33 boxes and force them to live like this and like the rest of these guys? That's not fair, man. I know, they're trying to feel something. Are they happy out there partying? on a mansion. They call it the White House. Yeah, look, you got a real point there. Dedicated as fuck, yeah. be a cowboy is one of his talents that's a talent that most people don't have.

48:36 That's a good point. I bet DC did bring out the best in him, and that's what he said, And for DC, I know the fighter in DC and the winner in DC, he wants that fight again, especially at heavyweight. versus francis yeah maybe maybe there's one of these heavyweights who out there who can control With a head kick, yeah, that's is how terrifying he is or one of those guys.

50:21 He's going to slice you up. Just knows how to win. he's going to fuck you up. In the sport? And I think those guys, they're going to be better man everybody's him. It's just too high and continue to hone them he's a guy like brother true but he's a guy like a crow cop who's so Do you know that? What happens is when you're, he's still ranked number one in the world.

53:22 You just don't have that time, man. We got someone to do it, man. I know what you're saying. Yeah. though he's won two title fights in a row up quick, was training with Russian nationals up in Montreal, did a lot of technical work, Oh, he wants to be the best, man. he can't teach you enough to make up for those gaps So he's not the same level as Daniel Cormier, but he's a much bigger man.

55:46 And then he took him down. So him and Francis, if you could put those together, He just can't strike at the same level I'm sorry. Now, here's the thing. Look it up, Jamie. 205 what? Yeah, 205 in African stones sure he's fighting 205. Am I batshit crazy here? 205 what? I think it's like, English people are screaming, It could never be 13. Most of them don't.

58:08 It's a dangerous day. Dude, how about your boy Tyson Pedro I'm a huge fucking fan Yeah. Tyson Pedro, Monster. great place to do. I did Melbourne. What's up there? Is that possible? Oh I'm not saying that he was like 40 years old no Derek didn't say that fight he's got a real shot francis derrick francis black on black crime what's up black panther Why are you mad about Sage Northcutt?

1:00:45 So if he was Mexican, would you be cool with him fighting? I would love to see him in CM Punk. Cute? How fast would you? And he's high right now, and you're high right bro. He's no right now. Let's say Dana gives you like that weird Brock Lesnar exemption I know he's had some training. But if you wanted to get an amateur fight against someone who is of similar skill level and similar experience level,

1:03:14 This is an amazing fight for the fans. My heart. Right? I don't care if it's 10 to 1, 100 to 1. It's crazy. clinch, he's going to clinch No, that's a joke. That's someone on share dog. That's the easiest money of all time. CM Punk figures out a way. I don't think he's on anything. Well, WWE's pretty he always was. I really do. That's fucking insane.

1:06:20 You're going to get punched in the fucking face very fast and multiple times. so maybe he did fix it and his hands looked Do you know what I'm saying? Who's he going to fight? It's crazy we're even talking about it. I'd fight Francis Khabib in the same night for half a billion dollars. one more MMA. Well, I'll do one MMA I think if Conor decided to give five, six months for a training camp, Conor McGregor

1:08:33 CM Punk over Floyd? What if Floyd Mayweather knows karate? And C.A. Punk goes, fuck. honest you and i are grown men if you are a world championship boxer you're gonna be exposed to a Floyd just on the thing kicking like pete spratt yeah and cm punk's going what the fuck no one told me this dude remember pete spratt pete spratt had some It sounds different.

1:10:55 He showed me a lot of shit. Is there anyone like that today who kicks as hard? Well, at that level, Overeem. Dude, he's just been through the ringer, man. Oh, no, he's going to kick his leg. Just touches it. Randy has a permanent death. Oh, shit. I'm telling you, man. Damn it. He's got more dexterity, for sure. Monster, man. I'll call you back. You look who votes for him.

1:14:13 That's how you make money. Because I think Tyron fought two super difficult guys. He's a monster, but he gets this hate because you're only as good as your last fight You can be in all the movies you want. but that was early in Wonderboy's career and also Wonderboy's the big-time striker and one of the best kickboxers to ever fight in MMA, Woodley hurts him.

1:16:17 on him and almost put him away. Dos Anjos striking with out there at a Kings with Verdum and those boys. What he did with Neil Magny, too. but that Dos Angeles fight's a motherfucker. The Jay Aeron fight. Yeah. Yeah, and he's very even. kind of matchups. I know those three fights kind of fucked Dos Anjos did to Nate at 155, you gotta go, you gotta give the shot to Dos Anjos is the crazy matchup at 170. And when you remember what Dos Anjos did to Nate at 155,

1:18:41 For Nate. That fight business I don't understand, so I don't want to judge. It's not a knock on Dana. It's possible. because it's crazy for both people i'd be like it doesn't help anyone because if you're dana you go Well, now I can't go back on my word. A lawyer brought it up? Me neither. You got to make sure that shit gets fixed right. then you got because you got frankie ortega frankie yeah and ortega right and then cyborg

1:22:28 So he can force my hand, but I got these other gigs over here too. What is it? tyron woodley. But there's to see what he's up to. I think that's interesting. By that. You know, with Frankie, Frankie has the UFC gym. said this to Cowboy, I said, what do you think Because they're making banks, so they don't have to do it. It takes a long time. It's just you have the wrong people in the air.

1:25:10 is how many times that story repeats itself over and over again. Yeah. It's a monster. I got, you know, Strong Closet All right, that looks like a fake person. Is it I thought but it has to be him And they said Sylvester Stallone will tell real fight stories from his movies. He's so, like, in that fight world. He lifts forward when he throws him in.

1:27:14 First of all, I couldn't believe I'm sitting there talking to Hulk Hogan. Oh, look at you, man. are going to war out here it's I'm pretty sure he owns TM. He just decides to buy a pro wrestling organization. He bought the National Wrestling Alliance. Wasn't that Ric Flair? Woo! I would love to have them on here. Repeating it and then in between Ric, the nature boy, Flair, saying it back and forth.

1:29:40 And I'm having a hard time keeping these gators down. Diamond ring word. Woo! Ric Flair! Dude, I've never been. I mean, when he fires up. All over the world. In the 1960s And bitches and alligators Maybe he did. I'll never fight another fella as tough as Doug Jones, not even that big ugly bear Sonny I'm the prettiest fight in the ring today. We're like Floyd and like Ric Flair took that to another level. That's true. Right. He took the I'm a rich guy thing to a limo. I have a Rolex. We're like Floyd and like Ric Flair took that to another level.

1:33:35 What's up? kids stealing I'm just happy they nail something when's the last time you heard someone come up with a new But I thought about it. you how basically something about americans right elon goes, I'm from South America, dumbass. I just Googled it. Yeah, well, how do you not love a guy who shoots a fucking car into space? No, I think I'm going to go there.

1:36:16 It's fucking nuts. that sends it hurling towards Earth? The movie Armageddon. What? Yeah. Listen, you flat earthers. Yo, that is such a crazy move to make your own rocket. Listen, man, once he understands the fucking real true image of the earth Y'all gotta take this flat earth It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy.

1:38:38 It's crazy. It's crazy. It's called confirmation bias. amount of evidence from super and you're ignoring massive amounts of data that points to the fact that you're wrong. know, flat? I was convinced that Bigfoot was real. and we went to hang out with real Bigfoot experts. We're going to call ourselves And once you want to believe in something, instead of

1:41:29 the ones that have seen it, the ones that have claimed They make stories up to make themselves feel better. And she saw this thing, and she was like, oh, my God, it's an ape. They really do. But dude, he walked towards him. Or maybe they get caught in a trap. Jesus. That's terrifying. Duncan and I were talking about it Q-tip box. You know how you get Q-tips

1:44:21 It's all pine needles, so that you don't even make any And your imagination starts filling the blanks. walking brown unicorn. You're walking and I will go to my grave She saw something. Everybody wants to believe. Everybody wants to believe. Here's the thing about Bigfoot. Someone was selling it? that oh really supposed to look like yeah it's not supposed to look like a human well i thought

1:47:17 That looks like a gargoyle. Flores man was the Hobbit man the little three it's a funny thing how they found this out. Yes. Turns out he gets the DNA tested. Yeah, like the wide face, the high cheekbones. And they start looking more and more Mexican. interesting stuff. Mormon found that shit out. so during the time that all these animals were coming across the Bering land bridge it's

1:50:10 I think something like that existed. Ayahuasca and shit. Executing people with knives and shit, drinking their wine. Yeah, the meaning over here isn't always just like Bigfoot. Yeah, a lot of different. Someone would find it. Hard to kill. He's Captain America. Dude, he's such a monster he's a fucking animal but i know he's the best human i know him for a tv show no you can't kill him

1:52:13 He's a fascinating guy. He's educated. Not that way. Well, I mean, do people really want to go see the Kardashians' house? You want to see the other one? Tim Kennedy and Caitlyn Jenner? No, he's the best, man. You're referring to fighters? it's like he's becoming a superstar she's taking a little bit more time yeah training has to take precedent over anything which is what steve bay does and which is why he's the

1:55:10 He sits for 15 minutes. He goes and does all his recovery. ass and he fights fires in his off time. Well, who else has done it? Wow. Because if you think about it and I get from the UFC standpoint, I get it because imagine Shane? Yeah, he's a water engineer. Yeah, I don't know, man. Like, was he going to sign some autographs during lunch? I have benefits and 401K and all that.

1:57:31 Because people love first responders. Really? Two weeks off, right? There was White Plains Charlie. a firefighter? Yeah, Ray the Fireman. He was a firefighter? Yeah, he was a firefighter? They just needed to talk. Roy or Ray. Was Ray the fireman or firefighter? Ray the firefighter. You work out if you like to. a danger like his most like pics a lot of it's his fighting a fire like there's

1:59:19 I mean, that's him keeping that name, too. he looks like a- Monster. He'll be like a You pick and choose your battles. I know. It's just, for whatever reason, sometimes that happens I mean He's basically He's right up there, man. And that would be a hard sell. it was because John was stripped. I mean, you take away John Jones. I think Gustafson, especially if he recovers perfectly from his shoulder surgery,

2:02:40 After that, it falls off like a motherfucker. Dude, he's the scariest guy ever. I either heard on the Thomas show or something like that. was tweeting after the fight was over was it uh it wasn't francis over him right no it was a light Oh, my God. We're good. What he said after the fight, I don't think you could ever negate that. I was like, damn, what's he going to do with the Rams?

2:04:43 But he was like, dude, I'm not playing for the rams i was consulting for them with with some you know performance stuff as far as like Cam, we told you to stop wearing those. Oh, we balking, baby. Of all combat sports? You're talking about the top of his head? Just play a clip of that Jesus. He's like, fuck it, we're going up. Holyfield overall had a better career than Tyson

2:06:53 That's when they used to test you Get the fuck out of here with your testing. you never knew who was on anything because They didn't have the same kind of tests they have now. I mean, I remember watching this with Kevin James. I remember Kevin and I were jumping up and down on the couch, screaming. He was trying to make it happen forever, if you remember.

2:08:39 Yeah, people forget Holyfield was a fucking Olympian, man. Did he win a gold medal? When he fought that Korean dude in the Olympics, that was one of the worst robberies I've ever Dude, you know I just did a podcast with Mike Tyson? First team all bod. Anthony Joshua Klitschko, man was jumping that was a crazy fight that was one of the best heavyweight fights ever

2:10:14 Wimbledy 90,000 Victor Ortiz? You're a Showtime fanboy. Which is hard to do. The thing he tests hot for, he had a prescription. And maybe Ortiz is, you know. He's got all this confidence. He's athletic. He's long. Now he's all this confidence. He's fighting Parker. Boom! No. That's all good. He fought this guy not up to his level, and it went to a decision.

2:12:41 Do you think that he did that because he wasn't prepared? He didn't push the gas on. and we know that Joshua can get tagged and dropped and recover. I always wanted to see Klitschko versus Wilder. But Wilder versus Joshua, let's do it. I don't know, gym and goes, he came in, whatever, he's like Like, really fast. He's a freak. Like, he throws a right hand, like, look haven't. Dude, he's really fast. He's a freak, man. Like, really fast.

2:14:20 or under and around behind a guy like that. Look at that. November. In a fucking head movement, how long ago was that one? November. 2007, November. and all the crazy shit like he's super skillful. He's getting popped, too. I just think, you know, he's mentally unstable a little bit and he goes into this depression and he was Yeah, man, They had to do that

2:16:01 on that fight It's a good time to be a fight fan, son. You did. This weekend. Then you also got Mikey Garcia fighting for Showtime. Sick. Wow. That's a good boxing Denver legend. There's an announcement coming out probably next Friday. There's no agenda. when I pitched the show, I like boxing, too. We're team MMA. out, fuck wrestling! It's like, And they even said in that fight, he said it's time to bring in the A-team.

2:19:21 See if you can find that. name, though. The Wolf god damn man i hope they have hats on they had the old fucking, the guy that looked like Boss Rootin' on the floor. I don't know if it was in Denver, man. Are you sure? I do not remember where that one was. Yeah. Wow Damn And But how much better is he now? Ensign goes to take his back one. And he's got

2:22:30 These are the days Heel hooks. Here it is. Yep, let's talk about that look at this Tap, tap, tap. Jacked. Yeah, but dude, he would skip forward He would like butt scoot forward and roundhouse kick him in the legs. Those fucking eye gouges are bullshit, man. Yeah. It's fucking cheating, and they should take points away from him. They did nothing. for long enough for him to know the fingers were in there.

2:25:47 Yeah. That was some next level shit. Yeah, there were some amazing fights. You know who's kind of dropped the ball? And now it's like the public's like, all right. Well, he can't headline after one fight. I could headline in Liverpool. You talking about a fight night fight in Liverpool You heard that was a great fight man Oh my god That's not Goddard

2:28:09 Someone should do something even maybe in Nevada. We can't have any leniency whatsoever towards intentional eye gouging. I think every time an eye poke happens, whether it's intentional or not, take away a point. Guys are going to get blinded. I mean, it could I'm not saying he did it on purpose. Thank God Matthews won. wearing either a tie steel cup or some, well, tie steel cup is like, that probably shouldn't

2:29:59 It gives you extra leverage. you're in trouble. Fuck yeah, man. He had to stuff it in his underwear and it was bouncing around in his cock and balls. Which fight? That was horrible. Right. I get that. When you're doing that, you know you're cheating. It's cheating. It's going to be a fucking nightmare, so this is a long path to go down. If you think about the amount of decades they've been doing baseball and football, I mean, MMA.

2:32:48 I mean, this was, they just legalized it and then they brought it in. That's a smart idea. Completely. But that's an even bigger the sport. If UFC said, alright, we're going to put a little He's so slick. Page is like a wild, more of a karate sport point fighter who has ridiculous power. Do you see that? And, again, he's not as loosey and dynamic as Michael Venn and Page,

2:35:00 Right. there's no windup. Did he weigh 186 or did he weigh 185? It's pretty impressive. That's true. he's doing is just taking this guy apart it's he's faking he's moving and it's all super technical he goes I don't care man I'll beat all these guys He's fucking ready. Just stop. Yeah, that performance c-minus. Well because he's that good. That's no joke yeah, and he gave himself, I think a C minus. Yeah. That performance C minus. Well, because he's that good.

2:37:31 like last year in a kickboxing match I've ever been knocked out. Did you hear Gatesy talking about getting knocked out? And if you bring up his kickboxing record, I want to find out who the dude was that beat him. Is it Ingloury? Yeah, that's the fight. He beat him twice, right? takedowns, Giorgio Petrosian might be fucking everybody up. He's young enough.

2:39:26 I've got to see that motherfucker fight. you know, where they're trying to encourage people to fight in a heavier weight class. Is that what Ashton said or some shit? And he started laughing. too, but I also love Lance Armstrong. I mean, come on. never got popped, you got to go to 18th place. 18th spot. Who cares? Well, they care. Have you been watching

2:41:17 And the thing that really made me start thinking about it was, why the fuck are they not paying these athletes? I know it does. The athletes aren't getting a penny of it. You got a team of aggressors going body, using your body like a spear. I don't see how. In the Super Bowl, homeboy got knocked the fuck out in the Super Bowl. you know, And you're sure as fuck not coming out of,

2:43:31 Why don't you just dedicate yourself to coming up with a jiu-jitsu league that's profitable? Yeah, I think so. And it's the best program by far. Where people don't care. This guy is very in the face and you see, okay, in this position, this guy's very open in the face when it goes to the ground, when He's just beating the shit out of them, but if you look at the viewership on that, it's not crazy.

2:45:42 Who else was on that? Cyborg? That was Cyborg. Maybe 400,000 people saw that, paid for the pay-per-view. See, it's way easier to get, especially when it's a co-made event already, man. Yeah, it's a little late. I don't know, man. He's had fights. We love him because he's beating the shit out of people on the ground. he fought Dos Anjos and Horcher were both UFC on Fox events.

2:48:01 Hey, man, that dude's tough as fuck. Watch him Monster Where they had to Can cancel the fight with Tony. What? Well, you have to work with me. Yay. Forever. exciting yeah it's exciting announcement i'm signing this i got my own tv show coming out They told me I could say it. I know. Powerful. We should all just have Powerful in front of our name.