Joe Rogan Experience #10019 — Vinny Shoreman & Liam Harrison Transcript

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0:00 Boom and we're live with my pal Vinnie really don't understand why it hasn't yeah and the traditional music and stuff like that people find that hard to take too really which is crew you just get in the ring you face off bell goes go straight away so they're trying to cut Sealing the ring and then taking with plain respect to because I've been told by the

2:37 That's fucking crazy, man. And he said, I'd had 100 fights when I was 15 years old. It's a living, isn't it? Yeah. If they don't eat, they don't. In Thailand, if every week. Yeah, 52 weeks a year. It's a living isn't it? not many people were going and not many people knew about fighting that taiwan more and more westerners now are going to live there they're staying there for long periods of

4:11 Is Muay Thai more popular in Europe than it is in America? poland and everywhere he's getting he's getting huge i'm a big fan of lion fight but it seems to And you've been doing commentary for them for how long? You know, and it's Showtime offshoots trying to think like what would be the way to get Muay Thai more popular in America? But I feel like there's something missing with that.

6:37 And I mean, I'm not going to lie, I'm his biggest fan. on the tv yeah if you just put like a random show on with like three like fights that are terrible but one's They'd get their legs kicked out from under them. I've always had that type of style. but that's just not smash someone's leg their money for that He can't, you know what I mean? right it's absolutely boxing you know like one of the reasons why we're talking about the granada

9:45 I went, I'll have what GGG has, please. And they'd be getting all chairs out and stuff, like that you know I mean I bet he gets people walking in there all time like wanting to meet Saying, oh, Pacquiao plays basketball, even though he's been with him 16 years. And, you know, I mean, his health has been such an issue over the last few years. Have you gone to Wild Card Gym yet?

11:51 Oh, yeah? Yeah, it's true. Vinny's doing all his NLP mind coaching stuff for an hour and a half, So what I do is I prepare them in a learning state, give them confidence, build them up so they can start to take on what Liam teaches. And then when you hypnotized me, I was like, wait a minute. your pants are off it's not like that it's like you achieve this weird state of mind that you're

14:10 it because my work's gone from a business woman of the year ceos and everyone now been it's just Hakalao. when he fights, before he fights, and you push them together, and you find Hakalao, nicknamed with Iron Hands of Siam. Big idiot. no but you really were you were massive michael jackson massive massive yeah I knew I could beat him. prepared I said oh Vinny can we do a little bit and um we did uh we did

17:18 But he came to me and we worked together and my take on this story is i was commenting at the time with and he looks through his trainer, Richard Smith, It was like the the invested in it as well that when he because'm his biggest fan. When he came over and Lisa Horton, Lisa Smith he's strong for conditioning, do you remember saying Warrior? I look back at the video

19:30 mental coaching. and I was like, The thing is, I think that fights are won and lost in the changing rooms. yeah strong him in here and i can see him just starting to deflate and change and a lot of isn't it so that your fight could against whoever the hardest fighters tie boxes in the world like It's like there's nothing like it. I see so many. I got to 15 and stopped growing um so when i was 14 i had like a

22:50 oh, I have to change up my game plan here What is the difference? skipping for half an hour straight off of that straight on the pads seven eight rounds straight the experience we've got the Andy house and Jordan Watson young Joe Craven I'll probably do kick pads with my boss, Richard, i get to five o'clock i'll go run again kick pads again and that's when richard will do that

25:15 it's not a long time. But a lot of gyms out there now are getting hold of that a lot of them are catching up you know and and you know doing it over there as well so they About how long ago? Last week, wasn't it? He is. Fontana California in the house It was a shame To get it to catch on and I got like paid It's going nowhere. like this it will eventually get there but it's just slowly slowly slowly we've

27:58 mean like hundreds of messages all the time of people asking like everyone does that's the show people say, oh, I can buy it for, like, five quid But everyone else, worldwide. Does it air on television? every single fight is a war is there But we've got some new kids coming through that are just, I have to do with when I'm close to a fight. the sweatsuit or anything like that as i've got older i've got wiser yeah i just realized it was

30:38 Get on point with it. My missus a lot as well. A lot of people cut out carbs and stuff. If you're running twice a day I'll still get up in the morning and have a massive bowl of porridge. It's insane. You can't. I might be able to do seven hours, no problem. I mean, like, all the country gets behind me, And a lot of it, really, they just hate themselves.

33:28 just have a look at them. We put a video up the other day, Oh, God. Liam fucking Harrison. know you just get assassinated from from all all corners well the thing is those people they might It's just, it's. sat around just eating burgers all day. and you watch them eat, than throwing kicks. Yeah, I mean, It's very inspirational. well, sometimes it's just me

36:01 where I look through but that's obviously there's a sparring on a different technical side to it as well as that like maybe some Kyokushin guys or someone who's doing something different? he's going to be an absolute superstar in to land the Muay Thai strikes with all that power, which I'm going to be working with. correct? 7-0 in the UFC he loves it yeah Till they've been going back and forth yeah he loves

39:02 back and they used to come over my gym by company with his coach and we used to train together like Muay Thai back in the day. He used to come over to my gym, my company, with his coach Well, everyone knew then he's the realboy's world class He's always been special the city's behind him and Mick and Alan Colin Heron because believe it or not but now he's got

40:12 Darren was fighting naturally talented kids and he would just be he'd run riot So someone who's that quick as well but colin his trainer he was uh he trained muda kwan is it taekwondo yeah he was like black belt at 11 or something like that and you know he's just colin takes no you know what is it about a guy like that Darren were like that ever since, I remember when he first started,

42:08 hard and the level steps up and they realize how hard they have to work to actually compete at that That's why he's shown what he's all about. Turns the hip over perfect, even his This fucking kid is like this his hands are glued right and the next level where you need to go go over in the corner and all the blokes I talk about, he's eight. and our kids, he's fucking brilliant,

44:45 yeah exactly whoever fucks with if it is him you could be at a fucking bus stop on your phone and you could watch world class fighters instantly. Look it's incredible. That's a different kid. let's match him it's a curse for stuff like that this might be on Wednesday fuck yeah martini man anytime anywhere yeah I mean that that is what you're No head contact?

47:05 they can't head kick either yeah and we got and knocked out Yeah. Wow. against a kid that was like 16 20 years old, beat a 6 to 12 year old. There's watching them, it's just like And it's good watching. It's class watching that happen, do you know what I mean? because obviously Joe Craven's only like And I think we've got, we had 18 fights it's taking a long time and to be honest i'm really enjoying i love muay thai i love i love

50:17 When I'm teaching the MMA fighters that I do train, I do spot that well and it does work Maybe, yeah, on my Muay Thai fight career. I've got July, that many fights in advance? Almost, yeah, yeah. just so I'm ready to go from one fight to the next. Are you back to kicking things now? i'm pushing my gloves together all the stuff we've worked on like the hackle out the awareness

52:50 And I went and did a bit of work with Vinny then. So you guys how I was going to win and what we did because I belarus and it was from that weight above. I was going to stop him. with low kicks. Now, when i said it'll be like a hot knife and i stopped him in round three with low kicks now when you were creating this cd for him like what was the goal what was

55:15 Smacking wall. if you could just listen to it in your earbuds or something like that But, yeah, it's possible. good states of mind I feel like these are applicable for everyday life, too. You point that in that direction, various programs that I do, roasting at glasses, and I absolutely love my job. It affects how you feel in between trainings. that needs to be as strong as your body like I said before you can never ever be too well prepared

59:29 absolutely amazing you missed it by a beat and I went with Mohamed Kamal a Jedi isn't he? He's brilliant. Yeah, I would absolutely love that. Yeah, yeah. I do need that. I got one here. We'll set you up. I have one right over here. hair follicle things and really great with cbds this i don't have it here i left it in my They sent it off to the lab and they tested it all.

1:02:04 What kind of stuff are they saying causes this might be horse shit? what you should eat, this is what you shouldn't eat. If this is in your diet, try taking it out because this is causing some disruption here and stuff. It really interests me. them out. It's one of the best foods you can eat. target that was amazing well i do it every day you are robin hood you're from fucking nottingham

1:03:09 That's what it was. from the other one almost as hard as I kicked that that's how fucking hard that oh here it is when you were showing me different things. with archery. With archery, it's all Yeah. It's amazing. Like, maybe I'd shoot a pig or something that nobody gives a shit about. They'll have, like, 10, 12 pigs a litter. Texas is so bad that they opened up a highway,

1:05:38 They were brought over here in California blaming marijuana for causing Mexicans and blacks And he had all these paper mills and all these forests that were dedicated to trees they would make paper out of. yeah they were inside it yeah but those are like regular pigs like in bhutan wild pigs would never you go, it's because of my pork pie. yeah he's a great

1:07:34 GGG won the first time why do you think that and got behind his jab, he was fine. going to be a lot more jabs yeah plus jabs his job is so underrated like what he did to david Especially if the referee was as bad as the judge. Like massive thick rings. She was responsible for some wacky ass fucking decisions Yeah yeah I don't know. Very nice lady again.

1:09:34 Did he land? deliby went okay because he said we was going to do it 154 and he says we don't care we'll go down way so he popped him and just dumped and he would go on right back of him before i'd even realized I wonder if it's real. I think... I'm only 100 behind him. He'd probably crush mine. digging sand we were homeless other than Stipe And you could see the way Overeem was fighting him, too.

1:12:35 I was super fucking happy that i believe francis is 33 i mean imagine if they caught him when he was 23 you know i mean and they'll get out. It's meant to be hard. You have a certain amount of real sort of... and first time i fought sunshine i were 21. what's going on with giorgio petrosian uh he's fighting gumshoe down close fight though it's massive

1:15:15 I love that guy in little gloves If you saw a silhouette of him just moving around, He's accurate. If he wants to hit you straight much his power, he's accurate, I just showed him a little bit too much respect, and I honestly believed, I remember in round four, I won the fourth round, and then yeah it's his eyes and stuff that second fight even though i lost it he's one of my

1:17:23 He's very unusual in the way he moves around a I mean it's like he's throwing it like this. I would look at him in the air but my leg got got kicked and I'm thinking how did he do that? He's Lomachenko, Muay Thai. Like I said, a few times he hit me clean on chin. Yeah, definitely the best without doubt over the last 20 years. How the fuck did he do that?

1:20:18 and pet buchu comes in at 135 no one's going to bet because they know sunshine's going to win But what about guys fixing fights? Really? Yeah, and because of that fight, I'm sure. beautiful 18 months I was just living in the gym yeah no air con i can still train just as hard there's some great coaches there so but i can go to the beach i can everywhere John Wayne Parr said the same thing he goes over there said everyone's

1:23:21 if he did i'm sure he knows like look at this like the way he moves it's a hundred percent john wayne parr you know what i'm saying yeah i mean it's very I was like, holy fuck, that guy kicks hard. They're just nice people, man. It's like they're Spain, isn't it? Why do you go to Spain? I go to Ibiza with all my friends. Well, that's a Spain thing, right?

1:25:41 Well, Europe has always had, always had ridiculous Muay Thai talent. I remember when he came into that MMA house at St. Pierre, Yeah, we're dropping them all and everything. is he doesn't look no muscles put you to sleep where a lot of these guys are learning how to fight a different way Yes. Yeah, we showed a video of Takeru sparring the other day, knocking someone out.

1:27:54 If he can get that balance in Muay Thai scoring, it's going to be a bit difficult. And just knocking blokes, sparking them. like popular since the 1993 somewhere around there so if you look at like 1993 mma versus 2018 so And I just think it's the opportunities that are getting thrown at them now But we've got some, I'm very proud of our country more competitive and ties are starting to train they train for liam

1:30:30 Really? They used to be with AXS TV, but I don't think they are anymore. They're working with MTGP. distribution of like a Fox or FS one or things that have gotten the UFC so kevin fight muay thai because he's good with his sweeps he likes to go to war so it's exciting to yeah iman barlow b- talks like that comes from Leicester she's a great fighter

1:32:58 so what is the difference waiver there bow head kick to the body and then to the head damn yeah yeah that's the thing about legs when you think about it How old are you now, my last 10 fights as well as I'm training others as well. Well, I won the WBC title in 2015 and um you can see I think they wanted is vacant or something. against a real, number one spot I've been looking forward

1:35:49 earned his shot. He's earned his shot, I'm fucking useless at shit talk, though. Are you either good at that shit or you're not? cow puts them on they put them on their YouTube channel? If you type in Liam in YouTube or whatever, they can watch him. You just did it, me and you were like that all the time, I remember hearing that. The Dutch said, yes, we like you screaming like bitch.

1:38:37 Aerts etc and and they the pioneers and then but now they got so many good gyms he likes what he likes and that's it you know well that's how that's a big thing with a lot Movement specialists, like what? Like Ido Portal, like that kind of shit? I trained train with a guy called dan mitt and now and he's a student of edo patel any yoga no i did a hot yoga once and i nearly died

1:40:55 And putting me in positions that I'm not used to If I took two solid hits, You'd be in orbit. because an hour and a half wear off no there's no wearing off quick yeah caffeine helps a little bit coffee remember think it's also great for like pain management and like you know after coach i just hold pads in the in the way that i can i'm more of a boxing holding pads for boxing

1:44:18 yeah this kid this kid this kid my boxer fought him and we went in and we heard about this kid my boxer went out got caught and he said the videos that Vinny that he does this is fucking unreal what he does is fast kicks puts that right palm out and he southpaw puts that right palm out his real name is Gevorg very special individual Yeah. your own personal preferences.

1:46:18 and they start banging them big knees in and stuff, There's so much sweeps and clinch and knee work And I'm watching him and I'm going, I didn't know that. head kicks elbows clinch all this other stuff i mean muay thai is almost never ending i say all he was saying I'm 50 years old, one of those things that on the outside you don't see it but the closer you get to it the more you

1:48:44 know i mean yeah and that's that all the the best fighters are all the most best people you're going to meet as Petrosian runs over once it's over, whatever, awesome for me man and Twitter I meant be doing with Vinny