Joe Rogan Experience #10020 — Yves Edwards Transcript
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0:00 and we're live even with ladies and gentlemen you're one of those dudes that has that book That's right, Eve Edwards. I have, like, keys and I have a knife in there and stuff. Is he a popular fellow? What did you get attacked by, a tiger, sir? I probably could have found a better picture. I can't say anything bad about the jewelry. Is that a bracelet?
2:17 Didn't they do it in the 80s, though? Don't listen to me. Look at this. Silly fucks. Like, with Beyonce right there, she fills it out. But a dude wearing something like that? Yeah, right? That's true. Men. No. You could. are you in that area yeah in the downtown area in the downtown area? Yeah, in Eagle Rock. Yep. His ground game's very good. That's got to be fun.
5:50 It's good. I think you were like 12 years old. Is it weird? and so i could repeat it here you go look I don't know. He was doing the UFC back in the day. Yeah, that was the restart fight. Yeah, man. You know, it was like they had had 30-plus shows. Lindlund? And Busted much wasn't I feel like if a guy takes you down and holds you down, he should be able to hold you down because there's nothing there but the ground.
9:50 No. Yeah. entertainment those things are so silly yeah It's just, I mean, when they're breaking those boards, they're using that joint as a lever. But it's no difference if Jon's hitting you with a downward elbow like he got disqualified for when he fought Matt Hamill, Like, that was always the argument against no gloves, was that you'd cut. You're just fighting.
12:11 Yeah, but I guess as as if someone has done it and trained to to try to knock someone out I mean, it happened in some of the early UFCs. your shins and make it Elbows, arms, who gives a fuck? But your hands are getting hurt. I mean, I think if I wanted to look at it in terms of just pure entertainment value, that and i think um more judges you know um but i think that's a big one i was talking about that
15:03 that is not a whole lot different than you blocking a kick. You know who does? Because I'm in the cage with Isaac Valley flag, and Isaac throws a kick, and I block it. I was like, Mike, he's cheering him on, kind of getting the judges on his side. Mike's like, and I went back to the corner, I told Mike, I was like, For sure. The judge is just a few feet over. And if they're like enthusiastic, like, yes, you is right there yep the judge is just a few feet
16:43 Any website. There's like zero reason. No. talking about stuff. That's why okay this one's gonna be weird i've been i've been bouncing back and forth between my pick for that create scrambles he's he's aware of where he is at all times and what he's giving up so i feel like Without a doubt. weak. I knew, compared Tony's endurance, his endurance is off the charts.
20:11 He says he's never seen anything like it. So if he knew Kevin was compromised, maybe he decided to just let him work. Very dangerous. I'm going to take this time off, be a little bit lax. He fights well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Some people are doing different things, like Wonderboy is doing different things. doing standard shit, of being on top and having that control,
23:42 Holly Holmes and Jermaine Durandamy. He fought a Dagestani guy. Because that style of wrestling, of being on top and grinding on you, yeah he's a notch above them like there's a lot of those guys that are real good. They're real tough, you know? Horrifying. And he's got his arm tied behind his back. Michael Johnson. zero problems making weight now he's got it all under control but you got to wonder if he was
26:24 getting hurt you know of the head Terrifying guy. He better bring some fucking corned beef and cabbage right from the motherland. He'll do all kinds of weird shit. Rolls with punches real well. I can't believe I fought one of these dudes. Fighter A, B, C, that thing doesn't play out. Undefeated. I still call him undefeated. Guy's covering up. I'm like, oh, this is good.
29:31 Down to 12-6 elbow still in? It's never everything that's wrong but man, there's so much in this but you can bring them all down together But is there anybody even playing with prototypes or something like that and doing an exhibition or demonstration? You know, like those old school. That makes so much sense. Nothing at all. you could actually get good grip.
32:12 the real way, which sometimes But yeah, they've got to figure out something. I like it. No, you didn't. doing yet you know a commission doesn't know what they're doing not not the commission um And the doctor came in, and they wanted to him some morphine in the truck we got there and they the doctor came And then I called Mike Brown back there, and we started having this discussion about, it's just like, it's leg kicks.
34:53 We're not going to let you leave here on pain medication. It was crazy. Just for some swelling? This is what they... prevent it and they they weren't like well this is guaranteed that this is what's going on this They want to release the pressure, right? And he's like, they were like, well, there's a thing that we can do, but we have to take a needle.
37:22 Yeah. Yeah. And they were just testing for pressure? these guys are probably interns. for it. It was late at night. And I don't think I was helping the situation because I was like, And including cancer surgeries. So were they ice in the shin the entire time? They're dead. got on the plane the next day so i had had real quick little side note i had had some problems i
40:36 I'll keep them in case I get hurt again at some point, you know. But it was, so I was like, I don't want that to happen to you. i i remember that i own that's codeine right isn't? I think codeine was a NyQuil. Ooh, it was nice. facts attack passes there flew in there i was like um i i started to do it and i was like And I slept And you get in that rest.
43:02 It cleans you out, like you can breathe breathe and you just conk the fuck out. It says Sudafed. The original green death formula NyQuil is behind the pharmacy counter now because, gasp, That stuff fucks you That's the thing about sleeping, though, right? you know or maybe i should do something about this or maybe i should apologize maybe i should I was like, really?
45:30 give it to me because you have to give them the other one back you have to So that's what I did. And somebody was like, the tensioning bolt. And and i was like i don't know what you're you just return from the spirit world there's something to that If you're still alive and you're walking around and talking, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. like fuck you know you can't ever get behind it it's it's it's a good day when when i feel like
48:33 Sometimes if I don't have a list or something like that, I'm not going to get it. dishes man they're just always sick everybody's sick so i'm i'm the only one so far that's been I already strained. Yeah. starts off way better like i start off with a clear perspective yeah i guess it's similar when Because in the summer there's some ferocious trails you can run yeah yeah there's a there's a hill on my street that's
51:43 That was miserable. It's that VersaClimber. Yeah, I did it in a circuit too. It was the last it's miserable i was like motherfucker this thing like you do the first You know, you're like down here like this, like, how much time, how is that possible? Like if you're going to put an airdyne machine in a fucking gorilla cage, you'd make like this Rogue.
53:31 Yeah. that, I don't know what you call it, but with the hydraulic presses. Which dan lambert the fucking man that guy that guy's done a lot for mma and doesn't get his horn blown This was back when Tiago Alves was a gorilla. I don't remember. And one of the things that they would do is really burn him out. everything up full of blood and then they fill them up with carbs and they would just everything
56:42 And I was listening to him talking about this. And they had Gleason, and nobody is bigger at 155 than Gleason Tebow. Like, how is that 185? I get that. He don't want to get on the scale. Look at the fucking size of that guy. He's the most diesel guy it was miserable for him. Trinaldo. No, I don't think he did. That's how he beat Tito the first time.
59:36 Wore his ass out. scrolling through fight pass watching the whole like the entire events then i get down to like 5 events a year back then well I always felt like you got fucked. and i feel like Gilbert. you know that's it they're not they're not backing down and um they got the chins to take it yeah you white and pancreas and i'm laying watching, and he's getting his ass beat.
1:02:38 I want to have epic fights like that, right? That's why it was so crazy. Yeah, is it Gilbert decided to use his skills and fight a technical fight? Yeah. Why? That's because he wants to. He was throwing his, getting out, Yeah, that's Diego's specialty. He's fighting Ellenberger, who's at the time, you know, Diego is one of those guys, too, that he's a scary individual when you look at him as like, okay, that's a potential opponent, especially in his prime.
1:05:59 The Down Syndrome guy? He's with the guy all the time. I don't think that he ever totally showed in the octagon what he was capable of in the gym. And that he would be dusting up all these really high-level guys in the gym. you don't want to pull all the triggers because if this bullet misses, I'm exposed. And it's a confidence in your technique and the outcome.
1:08:09 Ah, I think it's the attitude probably. It's a snowball effect from the very first decisions Some people just run away from it. Mursad Bektik is lighting him up like a Christmas tree in Times Square. He keeps coming. He catches him. the second i believe it was you just like this is like this should be stopped right this should be There it is right here.
1:11:12 I've trained with Massad. When Kat Zingano beat Amanda Nunes. Like I got goosebumps just thinking about it. That's some shit you can't fake. outside of that womb right and and they don't know what pain is like a pain tolerance the first time you got kicked it it hurt a lot more than it does now yeah right so like Yeah. Yeah, I mean, everybody's different.
1:13:51 I don't buy it because everybody has bad breaks. But you've got to realize when you have those shitty breaks what that is. They're the opposite of fuel. get after it. you don't make any excuses. idiots because only idiots want to be around You could be instead chasing your dream. It stuck. And all that's bad for you too. You're flushing, And you're like, oh, well, I can empathize with that or i can this but when you're just watching oh spending money on cars and and making it rain and this
1:17:25 There's a lot of good shows. Ooh, look at the car. and all these girls behind him in their underwear. Yeah, sometimes. different way but there's a point where everything becomes a bad thing there's a point where like Yeah. everything else and now i still get to train but i have more time and a lot of time by myself in my Keaton Jones. but what we're talking about is his mom's conversation with Joe.
1:20:21 Up is down, down is up. there was something else joe said like what's the money going to like you can't cure bullion with What, in Joe's context, made her go to that card? She went fishing. See, that's crazy to me because I didn't grow up knowing about that. We learned Bahamian history in the Bahamas. For sale? I mean on a flagpole. have the flag of the dudes who are fighting for slavery yeah you can't have
1:23:47 Did you know that there's a reason why, you know, when people think about people from the South, people think of them as being like slack jawed and kind of stupid. feet and those parasites infected their brain and compromised the way they think and severely Someone like that? I bet it does. It began with ground itch, a prickly tingling in the tender webs between the toes, soon followed by a dry cough.
1:25:40 Wow. I remember learning in my brain because they learned about this and the idea is that, you know, like, hey, if the world goes to shit, I mean, if you found out the world was going to end and you bought 20 pairs of shoes, that might last you until you're dead. You're going to have to be on your feet more because you got hunt now. Yeah. They were smart too because they didn't develop, like, I'm on this barefoot running
1:28:03 You've got to walk around with gloves on your feet. Whereas, like, these things are way stiffer than what I run with most of the They're just weaker, you know, and that it's not good for anything. time until i went down to florida and was at american top team there were certain things that versus not having my shoes on. I just feel like, or I wear like, I like Chucks, like Converse All-Stars.
1:30:32 I just think it's unnatural. thinking about um when we talk about changing your dna where we started with the hookworm thing and your feet. those guys are not known for their agility. They're giant. You know, like if you were talking like strongman strength, those guys are not known for their agility. It's like he's not missing anything. Most of the time when you get a really powerful person,
1:32:47 Like, you know, he ran out of time. You can't just do what you're awesome at. he's already awesome at putting people in another dimension yeah He's so powerful. Like, knows. The Kane that fought Ben Rothwell, and i picture him moving forward a lot like norman gamedov moves yeah a lot just with better striking What do you think about that? There's a ton of, like, guys that people haven't heard of
1:35:35 Like world champions. But they're all on the same mat and guys are running into each other. That's a size issue in terms of the gym size. without having borders and and a guy like hector lombard coming after you, you're going to move. and sometimes we fight yeah i'm like god damn you know you haven't fights before the fight like Right. And then when you would hurt him, he'd try to kill you.
1:38:34 They were a little salty after he left. I've had people tell me things like, man, you won't believe what happened. And it's like, no, you didn't. Look at your, but your face your face yeah the fucking judges man 27 and i was like there was no guarantee that any guy won any of those or sorry there was a guarantee Do you have a set schedule? You get plenty of advance notice. So the next desk job I'm working is the Barbosa-Lee fight.
1:41:24 Who's he fighting? Cub Swanson. It's like, yeah, because he wants to get for us I'm pretty sure Frankie 36 but I'm like you want to go out there and do And he's got a kid now. I can't see that fight going. Very creative. I mean, Cub fights a different way. that's where you got controlled but i mean it's a great fight i just again i'm just i'm just all
1:44:35 And Frankie could go in there and wipe him out or do exactly what he did last time, That dude crushes people. Weidman is a stud wrestler. Long, strong. I rolled with them and it's like they have this jiu-jitsu style that's like the timing is just off a beat somehow. He's terrifying, man. When I was in Texas, I was driving all the time. what it was like.
1:48:02 They get three meals a day. And he's like, everybody knows you hurt your wrist. Right? the best they can do people need motivation. talking about capitalism competitive. what you've accomplished. Those two things I think are gigantic factors in just having a healthy community. I like to go to the beach and hang out. three different things going on, projects constantly, always in the middle of something,
1:50:56 or especially the country, is in the best place No, everybody doesn't get a trophy. maybe you get some of the some of the pie but like this whole thing of yeah everybody's equal It's a weird dynamic where there are things that apply in different situations. Law enforcement is better in these areas where enforce the laws and and patrol and do those things in this area just as much as we do for this area.
1:54:29 to be here so we go there no we can afford to be there and um but let's just try reinvesting in So the people that come out of that, even though we're saying, hey, there's an open playing field to compete, that's not true. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't do anything overseas because I think a lot of the things that we do overseas probably help and protect us over here.
1:56:30 You say $600 billion? Technically both. That must be where I heard it. Everything else. We're going to invest 10 years with $700 billion a year in a school system. I'm going to go with Yeah, 2006, it was $56 billion. I'll have to look deep into that. 1955, I think it was. Two and a half. Yeah. Two and a half half billion and now we're at seven and a half billion
1:59:11 if it's exponential, Everybody, Education bill? I think we could figure out how to make college free. and the people that, no, bullshit. Sure. going to throw that much money on it. That's the dumbest shit of all time. you know, But you're not going to get all the guns away. The thing about people say guns don't kill people, people kill people. One trillion a year.
2:02:06 Well, what is the website? so that makes it maybe double. Well, you you know here's one way they'd make it really and you're in there with them. There probably was a limit to what they were doing. And when you're at home watching them, you're going to pull it out and rip one. The problem is the distraction. That ties back into what I was saying before about all this entertainment out there.
2:04:47 There's a bunch of them. Oh, medicine. So if somebody wants you to have a job for it, if you have the right guidance, work and how does a radio detector work? You should have a real deep understanding of the human body. Yeah, you have to get a general education. Most people start working at, like, 16. But let's learn the things that actually apply to life.
2:07:54 You don't need to take gender studies classes. They get certified that you know this program very well, like what's almost what you're all of the limits are completely like unlimited Right, yeah. For free. That's part of the benefit of going to this school, I would say. people that that pick up on technology and they understand it so well and they have no formal
2:10:18 and maybe they had a little bit of athletic talent, and then they would come back in. I didn't like getting hit. And so I was like, well, I don't like getting hit. I knew how to sprawl, and I knew how to shoot a double a basic double you know the the Where I have his ankle, single leg, Now, like I used to hate wrestling. And they also particularly don't want to get involved in something they're not really good at.
2:12:49 and just did not like how they would get humbled. You're 100% getting choked. Fuck all that. But he landed a couple. I was like, yeah, fuck that.. You know, I'm comfortable there, but he landed a couple hours Whoa. His left leg switch kick is probably the fastest kick I've ever seen anybody throw from that stance. Or also put his up against somebody else's switch kick.
2:15:09 You're just taking it. Ferguson was winning. It was a good fight until Tony caught him with the darts and sunk that choke in but then again that's a few years too For both guys, though. You know, he might get Terry Edom'd. You needed someone with that kind of speed, though. It landed right on the jaw and just shut the lights out. not crazy about the fight in the sense that i've seen it once and it could go that way again.
2:17:34 There was a, was it called a no contest for a disqualification? all three of those knees were illegal, right? Yeah. I think that's a real good argument it's a real good argument and I don't think Eddie's a dirty fighter no but I do think Dustin was winning I think he's in the heat of the moment. um definitely i mean dustin was was lobbying for the rematch also and then on top of that
2:19:20 Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't care about getting ran over with a takedown either. holy shit yeah he has Johnson's one of those guys It's like, wow. Who knows how he felt. did you use ivy bags no i i didn't i drank pedialyte did it work i don't know the fight Wow. after learning, I, fucking fights man yeah like that's that's old school, you know? Wasn't that Vitor's debut against John Hess?
2:23:27 Vitor lit John Hess up. So he fought some short guy and poked him in the eyes. The video's a weird video. I was training with Vitor then. I was like, he's my age. and I was like, he's 5'9", 200 pounds. Was his UFC debut Ferrozzo When did he fight Vandele And then he fucked up tank abbott um but then as he got older um not older but Okay, it was after Randy.
2:26:10 Because he had no known weaknesses. He was a different guy then. It's like his traps were coming up to his ears. Like it started at the top of his head and worked its way down sideways I fought this guy. he's like man he's like six two he's probably like 220 he's jacked he's like and i was like I will corner you. videos. I had pictures of my and whatnot.
2:28:58 That's good, man. days ago of him and hermes and You know? Those are the guys that I remember those days. A little less experience at that high level anyway. You know, to fight, Matyushenko, yeah. No, I was there as a guest. I became friends with Dana and he was like, you want to do commentary? Keenan had been in some movie with Steven Seagal, and I was fucking with him about the movie.
2:32:39 Yeah. You wouldn't even feel it in a fight. Imagine if someone was so ticklish that you could open up a submission. I'm going to try to rib tickle somebody in the gym and I get their back next time. Can you practice that? Could you get a guy to ride your back with the pads on? Head butting. naked choke position which is him elbowing you in the back of the head that's the ultimate move yeah
2:35:09 And then I remember that. stuffed his chin into his eye socket, Right. The guy on the right, for a second I thought it was Oleg. You know. Yeah. And also had a little bit, he could have put more effort into preparing. do that yeah right he's one of the rare guys that actually can do that man Yeah. no way you could consider taking something like that and having it have some sort of positive effect,
2:38:39 I would expect it to be somewhat true, supposed to have gone over like what you can and can't i don't know i think it was a usada what he provided as a possible source of that stuff you know like he That was the pre-Rebok days where he would have got all the juice. route in some sense, you know? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. He's like, oh, you mean the left kick?
2:41:32 weeks ago i saw you at the comedy store and you asked me about your boy brendan yeah and like you Like saying that you have a bunch of black people on it because they're not racist. Right. I love him. He's one of my best friends Massive veteran of the sport. Yeah, Kenny Florian. call it. And who would, you know, the other thing is like, who would replace them?
2:45:12 Who's not getting the job though? And I was like, cool. And that's where I'm like, man. He's like, yeah, I talk to them. He was aggressive. The extent of our friendship is like a UFC last summer, I saw Brendan across the aisle and some guy rolled You know, Brian and I are cool, so I've seen him sometimes when I've seen Brian. and i can't defend him on that because it doesn't make any sense it just didn't it doesn't make any
2:47:56 Who's the better alternative? But you've got to provide. you've been doing it so long you're as close to having the experience as anybody can without She does it in a non-robotic way, which is whereas karen knows how to be fun and she can be loose and she's non-robotic while she's Yeah, she's hot as fuck. they chose that play what went wrong what was he thinking when this happened like someone who
2:51:03 I want to know, was this a plan? Did you see see this in advance this is something you saw in training when you're Every post-fight interview. so I was watching that and I was gonna ask you worked out perfectly. You were like, I was like, Joe, I'm sorry. I also like helping the guys celebrate. I was like, and even if she won, Here's a good one for you on another big fight.
2:53:39 And all that rush when the referee steps, that's the moment, that's the biggest moment. That's the best thing to get out of guys. where there's no striking i i have not i've been i thought about it once or twice, but not been committed to doing it. I'm able to do more like that. You know? baseball punches man like the the pride tournament i would have loved to fought everybody in that
2:56:41 I was like, man, I'd love to fight a guy like Joe Lozon, you know? November will be four. But no, Just because of the things you know now. and fast twitch muscle fibers, and they don't know that much. go hard once or twice a week and as i get in better shape like the twice will be more consistent Do you think about that when you're sparring right now?
2:59:01 And I'm like, you only got one, right? What do you do? Lately, I've been watching old shows and just watching it for the acting. well no but he they green screen it oh um so so he's he's the whole time he has his green sleeve So JD Washington. I always called him Ricky. Oh. What kind of lessons? And I'm like, I have this shit on my phone. card so i have a i have a ticket to the theme park so why not just try the rides yeah it's
3:03:44 guy and most of the time It's a different kind of rush. I'm going to do it again. You can do it Dude's just talking is difficult doesn't matter how many difficult things you've done you might have a better We get coaches. We get people that have nothing to do with Huh. What? Okay. 100 plus channels. uh dude it's already three o'clock wow we've been doing this for how long now over three hours
3:07:51 And so, like, what I'm saying when I said he talks too much, I do too. And a lot of it also is like just ranting. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm not the guy saying, like, you're racist for saying this. So like, so that part, I don't know why I said that. someone says something You know, Yeah. Just don't wear women's pants. It depends on what the holes are, I guess.
3:10:20 You earn those holes. You wore your jeans Yeah, I remember that. Because there was a time when you were like, look at Josh. I love it because there's a couple times when you're not disparaging of either fighter, Thugjitsu Master Eve Edwards, ladies and gentlemen.