Joe Rogan Experience #10023 — Alexander Gustafsson Transcript
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0:00 come down here hunting sometimes yeah man come down a lot of wild pigs out here oh wow plate yeah i took it out now in like uh end of last year but I got a plate inside. Oh, wow, a plate. Yeah, I took it out now in like end of last year. there so it's all right like this yeah it's under your viking beard it's getting muffled So I'm in training. Oh yes.
1:57 that kind of movement That bow was powerful though. I've done a lot of like, I don't know the word in English, but a lot of acupuncture. Well, it's just you've always been a very, very good fighter. It was just standing there, and I just, here is my shot. no I know that's what I thought because I felt like like you said I had I had everything's go and pay attention to all the other aspects of your game.
4:54 It is. is working this is my thing and this is what i'm going to use and i'm going to get better at it I still didn't. Never, never. And that just makes me stronger. it's always 10 years, for the next fight, two times a year, And you, Where's the belt? you had three rounds against him are you winning this fight like it felt like like you said it was
8:50 even remember what had happened over the last five rounds i remember i remember i remember the i to him obviously and especially the most recent one which i really i really believe based on the So, you know, just let the expert handle that. He definitely does some shit he probably shouldn't do. He's still the best guy out there. yeah no like I said to you fighting him and beating him that's bigger than taking the belt
11:54 and staying creative and using his fantasy, and it's amazing to see. I mean, does that bother you? you know, a very strong next performance. We have three months till that fight takes place. if it comes back I see it in pictures well he was on on tv the other Well, his wrestling is just so next level. Yeah. It's such a, it's an interesting position,
15:00 because Stipe is the pound-for-pound consensus And for being a fat guy, that guy works. I mean, maybe some of it's genetic. Yeah, me too. I'm not done with, Yeah, but you have an excuse. Two, you know, maybe I stop my camps 235 really yeah wow yeah i go up to 240 sometimes no kidding wow are you healthy at 240 or are you just like i move like never before it's crazy really yeah i
17:15 But like I told you, man, I'm not finishing light yet. when I start I don't stress pizza or whatever It's like my body just knows, okay, it's time to work. That's all I do. Yeah, I agree. to support it at all so i'd rather do my hunting no i agree and i mean there's to me that's the Yeah. How long have you been hunting? bows there though it's not it's not legal right yeah a lot of european countries i know in spain
21:51 It's a whole other technique. My friend John Dudley is tall like you, too, so he'd be the perfect guy to coach you. I heard about it. going and going and there's no end wow and they don't have very many predators a few mountain Yeah. Really enjoyed it there. And how far into your career was that? Mr. Wonderful. and how you need to defend a takedown.
24:59 He invited me over, and we just came meeting my coach we just came over and we had no know it's it means so much to me to to have these guys training with me you know with Phil, Ili If I spar with Phil, Jimmy or Ilya, I just feel like every day is a fight. so much more wrestling And, yeah, that's exactly what I need. to the gym, they're at the gym when I leave the gym.
27:53 They work all day long. It's, you know, they have their rooms to sleep in. training system that works and we establish it good and i feel great to be I mean, MMA from when you started 10 years ago to now, it's barely recognizable. We have old ladies and all gentlemen coming in, conditioning you should do how much sparring you should do how much drilling you should do you know i just i let andreas michael to handle that to me he's he's he's a he's a mastermind of
31:15 someone that they can entrust that has knowledge where it's an eric del fiero or andreas or you and they're masterminds, man. And that's where I got my footwork from. learn with me but they take in people that you know so we cover the whole thing because we cover There's a lot of them. it's like a relationship man it's my it's my family too so so you know we
34:22 Good wrestling guys. I can't take it anymore and the cage was like Nope. You shocked the shit out of me. But it wasn't that too hard to take down, you know? Like, do you break up conditioning days with skill work days? we have actually the group, you'd maybe do five five rounds of pads and then you do He still competes. do you have, like, a board up on the wall where you outline the week ahead
37:37 I put the silos on fire. we have a big board on the wall are you still training yeah It was from pulling, from cleans of it. But this thing right here, I keep it with me all the time. This helped me more than anything. Will you be able to train now, That's what I heard. Cool. I have to stretch for an hour I'm just a stiff with my feet I'm just working on my flexibility.
40:26 You're doing a lot of squats or deadlifts or something like that? Really? Yeah, just been playing around. his waist to shoulder ratio I don't want to yeah big ass Fat guys all over the world. But as soon as I quit it, I just drop in weight. and that most people that you run into are just eating sugar all day long. It's weird, right? No, I think it's just because I'm so battered.
43:28 body in an unusual way i've seen a lot more fighters getting involved in it and really Well, I was thinking a guy like you who's so driven that trying to succeed, you know, at all costs, like trying to figure out what's the best way to succeed. when i was getting taken down all the time doing my kicks but nowadays people taking me down but you're doing this
45:12 comprehensive sport. It's a lot. How many years do you think you have left? I'll do it. myself like you know either either either i just put my either i just get the fuck out of there in my time with the family. if I, Right. Then I have a couple of setbacks, I believe 100%. I have what it takes and i believe i can beat john jones i believe 100 and I'm just waiting for the next opportunity, basically.
48:44 Yeah, it was a headbutt. I'm not i'm not i'm not taking anything away from anthony johnson that But isn't that one of those situations where until you've been there and you've been that hurt in a big fight like that, it's like the experience is, it's an alien experience. it was four in the morning oh we're gonna do this i'm like no hell it's not gonna it's not gonna happen how should we manage
50:47 Yeah, I don't understand how he even did it. So he's a big guy, a really big guy. 170? That makes my weight cut easy, Oh, shit. But what he said was interesting. I don't, you know, of course, we all are athletes doing this, but he's more like the fighter. You don't want to be in front of him. Sometimes I hit him and I saw his eyes go like this. Yeah.
53:03 Yeah. something different too though what you gotta do I saw that. Who knows? Yeah. I'm not in camp. It is. With John being in limbo. Aaliyah, I've been training with him since I started my career. he's in limbo he's been boxing nah he's boxing Whatever. Yeah, I can't even imagine. I don't even want to hear it. I don't know. know you know he's probably not he's not probably on the on the on the popular list it's probably on
57:38 for Kobe, thank the baby Jesus. give a fuck. He'll go if the money's right. I'm sure He's big. It's a good fight. What does he do, Colby? I mean, he beat Damian Maia. I think he's 41, I think, Maya. Not taking anything away from Colby, Yeah. Like you see someone throwing a dolly at a bus and shattering a window. my phone was like, Oh Christ. And he do it really good.
1:00:43 Why is he doing it? and cut Rose's face up? He's probably pissed off I would feel terrible. Ray Borg got cuts in his eyes. Oh, my God. They should be. I don't know. Find out how many lawsuits. Yeah, he got glass shards. He got a scratched cornea. Are they all suing Conor now? around imagine if ray borg threw that dolly at the bus and connor was no he'll be yeah he will
1:02:48 it's terrible for what he made for that Mayweather fight He probably lives in a mansion now. he hit in Ireland. But when you're 29 years old hundreds of millions more. I mean, his legacy shouldn't be a boxing match where he's TKO'd by the greatest boxer ever. Yeah. Yeah, of course. That might be one of the biggest MMA fights ever to make. Yeah. Who do you think win that fight? It's a good question it's well the question is can connor catch him can
1:06:10 and all of that but does he have the conditioning for khabib that's a good question he just he just You know, just neutrals the guy totally, so. Everybody who wrestles with him They have very few options If you're doing good, if you are like, if you win the World Games or whatever, Another one. I think he started off as a Kung Fu guy. Fucking phenomenal. Just this ridiculous technique.
1:08:30 is very good switch kicks, everything he does when he comes down he's never awkward he's never like his They're ready for a counter. Yeah. all that shit. I should be honest to you. It is a work. It gets too much. Like a Mighty Mouse or someone or Anderson Silva or someone? be so fast i'm fast and light heavy i would be do you see my shadow in there running around like
1:12:17 I'm like, how the fuck did you move that quick? So he probably gets it from the video. I do. They don't even train themselves. I usually, I don't even have to hunt. Oh, that's a wild boar. You know you know and i just follow it where it goes or could be could be could be anything just It's a healthy way of living, I think. of living basically and and uh it gets a toll on you after a while and when i was when i was young
1:16:41 I basically found a way of, okay, this is what I need to, to make my life for this steep a mio chick uh dc fight basically i'm just waiting for them to to come with something but, So what would make sense? or whatever it's going to be, With you at the top, really the fight to make is one of two, DC or John. That's all I'm seeing. I appreciate that.