Joe Rogan Experience #10028 — Georges St-Pierre Transcript

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0:00 Going to the contender after Freddie Roach. Oh really? Yeah. Nice. Live? Boom. We're live. You want to wear headphones or no? Yeah. It's better like this, right? Do you wear, are your cauliflower ears, they keep you from wearing earbuds? You know those little things that go in your ear? Does I need to wear it? No, I don't need it. You don't need it. You don't have to. I don't have to. Just keep this close to your face and we're good.

0:41 What did you have? You had colitis? that I was eating almost every two hours. Even when I went to the bathroom at one point I had Everything went well. I was trying to put on some weight. I should never have done it. Then I went to weigh myself. you have a lot of stuff inside your intestine and everything, my natural weight. He's a pretty big guy. He's in Toronto.

4:47 It's not 100% now, but it's getting a lot better. and restricted eating is a big part of it. I sleep better. eating my my training did not have change. I was putting too much for nothing. oh, we need to eat at least three times a day. Like, what's a normal meal for you? And, of course, I don't look at, oh, this is a dessert. Should I do that? It's like, oh, it's no problem.

8:50 and stuff like that, I was eating he will be like, oh, my God. And I felt great. But for an athlete that's about to fight five five-minute rounds yeah like you do like first jiu-jitsu class in the morning, no food in your stomach? Then I'll eat. I used to eat because everybody ate. I can eat once a day. And it makes sense to me. my fat percentage And when I trained for Bisping, I went up to 197.

12:41 Like I feel sharper. It was a... I think it's just use. they take time off and then they come back and you wonder what they're going to look like. you were saying that you were better than ever. Yeah. I mean, he just fought Floyd Mayweather a couple years ago. He was were constantly training and you looked good. my mind. It's like what we do is kind of a life and death situation.

16:29 It's such an extreme feeling So they need that sensation that they had previously. For my birthday last Saturday, I went out and I was completely wasted. What's the goal of it? It's like because I like my lifestyle, and i would never will hopefully i can It's not my thing, you know? Did you feel vindicated? bad luck but if you cheat you cheat man and a lot of people got caught and finally a lot of people

19:17 they got pointed out with their fingers, And so when I decided to come back, It's crazy. You just never went up of a weight class. and we changed the way I was You're just going to do what you did every day. like you felt right back into the groove again you didn't look out of place you didn't look I'll give you money. That's the opposite of what a lot of people think a training camp should be for a champion.

23:05 Bisping was the most It's hard to find So I had him during my training camp. how do you say his last name? Skarbowski? Jean-Charles Skarbowski. And did that guy influence your idea about just being more relaxed in training hey, can we keep him for the rest of the show? But the knowledge that this guy had I think you're right about that. I believe as a fighter you need to be the head guy. You're the maestro

26:38 They know about investment. I have are the most competent they're teachers Are you in shape? This is the physical layer. Defense to a triangle choke, but they don't have the three layers. or you winning against me is the tactical. stoop the odds of me because they're competent in these three layers, Michael Bespin, Michael Bespin was very well prepared, he has a very

30:37 With Michael Bisping, and instead of coming at me, it was more trying to run away from me. It's not only that I slowed down, He changed his strategy from round one to round two. tried to target my head, but I was too fast for him. and then he connected me straight on the chin. me. I tried to put a poker face why people don't think he hits hard. but it's more precision and timing.

33:16 They saw what he was doing. So I was on autopilot. But, you know, if you look at him, one of his eyes is darker than the other eye. It does but the thing is with Michael is he adjust himself very well to this, you know Like like it's like a he knows it and probably knows it himself, but the way he fights he adjusted very well It's always when he missed with the right hand

35:28 But look, to his credit, a risk myself too it's just sometimes you roll the dice you know when you expect things to go What have you been doing in training? which is the most important one. it's like shorter different style than me He was fresh probably. I don't think he would have been cleared to fight. Three weeks. and then you choked him Is that the word, though?

38:20 Maybe he would have... Yeah And unbelievable he stands for and for me i agree i agree and a great model for it's just an example of how you can achieve great things if you work hard. I mean, I'm not aware if it was staged. And Michael says to me, he's like, and then Jason Perreault come, They were like, like that particular incident, you know what I mean?

41:32 Conor McGregor has kind of changed the sport in a lot of ways. We go back and forth, blah, blah, blah, blah, kind of almost insulting each other, so to speak. ready to fight. It's Michael Biss. I see Michael Biss look at him But now he's in the garage. That's hilarious. But I hate him because when we insult each other, we say real insult and real things that we think about each other,

43:24 I don't know what he's going to do. I don't know if he wanted to fight in the street today. Maybe he hates my guts. Like, I don't know what he's going to do. My life is my family, man, is my friend, the people I love. It's not my life. But people think they have to be super obsessed. I'm fighting, John Danner, your autopilot to win the fight. Yes. but I want to program myself that when it occurs,

46:27 especially my last fight before I stopped for the four years. Don't take it for, don't make it bigger than what it is when I used to fight in Vegas, before my fights, with her grocery store bag. stuff. They don't care. That's how some younger guys, they say, They say, but how do you feel better about it? That's going to be on the edge. I didn't even want to go to buy eggs

49:01 It's only a small percentage of population. When I have the problem with the diaspora, And then after he's gone, no problem with that. Like putting too much on me. What caused your decision? So, after I went to do, like I said, a colonoscopy, And then I tried it, but I saw that a lot of, you know, I think I'm good. and make people wait because of me you know the don't go around me. You know what I mean?

52:41 I never tried it before. I respect It would be a stupid move. And so if you're gonna fight again, it would be 170 or 155 I lose. fan want to see they want to enjoy um i also want personally for me to achieve something that is It needs to be more than money. It was a rumor. However, if you put yourself in my shoes, there's or whatever. The criticism

55:51 most, And you won the title cannot even, you know what I mean? And if I That's why I did UFC. exist. You would be the altitude is higher or lower You say, oh, I'm the baddest man on the planet If you ask most experienced fighters, most people will think the same way. I consider it. that they were working on it? And I'm not, with Johnny Hendricks Sure.

59:10 because it's for the business Yes. I say it openly. in the next year. you play football, it's a very special relationship. No, no, no, no. is not a straight line. And if you don't have for a while that you didn't want to fight he was saying george doesn't want to fight he said before It's all a game. Yeah. Dana White, without him, none of this would be possible.

1:02:08 he's the best he's incredibly good like Nate Diaz man you know what I mean self control What did Nate say that fucked with you? So he said, if I want to take care of that, i gotta confess i gotta confess okay i was i was so scared during this this fight so we tried to So right before I put some glass He said for my fight that I poisoned his IV, like I tricked

1:05:19 of conspiration, Yes, I think that's nothing bad about weed. I know you're Yeah, but I think that's the way it is. It could happen. Yeah, I think it's like the two fights that I hear. Right now, not even close. My health is a pass in front of my performance in sport. subject a little bit but with with on the same way it's sad for for Nick Diaz that he doesn't

1:08:14 surviving, not not much physically it's it's on the nervous system you come at you and you fake and then He's kind of a slow guy, when he was at his best. but after a while, he got tired very fast. So Nate Diaz, He should do now. Man, he had the opportunity to make a lot of money. no but I respect that you know and Dana This is a question. I didn't want to attack

1:11:43 and in the beginning, because that's VADA it was a lady because I made a little investigation on that That's why I respect a lot of fighters, I should have done that before, Yes. You know what I mean? you just had to pee after the especially the cheater, in my body Right. People misunderstand this. And this is a huge, huge application, man. you're a better athlete, man.

1:16:23 with the gene doping and all that. People are really worried about gene doping. pretend I'm going in Antarctica, get an injection, then I come back and I'm good. The tuber, you know. And the animal testosterone, you don't – like they do carbon isotope tests. and they've taken away they've been able to Yeah. I think nine out of the ten for the main guy.

1:18:52 Yeah. So you take his title away. But man, you asked me if I think he was taking. And I'm pretty, like, just from my gut feeling, 99.9% sure. There's only a few handful of people who does the whole, and one other guy like the people, some deals, you know, like to go train no, you accuse a gym of cheating, No, man, A lot of people I know, including a lot, some of my friends, they were bodybuilders.

1:21:40 Yeah, they tear their joints apart too. but all that, Maybe they say, I could get more maybe in the future, and and Joe I'm not against steroid I'm gonna explain to like people's always I get I'm not medication to compete, you shouldn't be allowed. You shouldn't be competing. And Joe, I'm not against it. he's like, Yes, in terms of competition, something to make me stronger or more

1:23:46 And if you don't respect that code, man, like the pitcher. medication you can take for exam. It's crazy, man. and soon it will be like with the gene doping forget it man the athlete will be born athlete You're never going to be... They haven't really shown that they can do it now they can do it now but whatever it is The sport will be finished. Like, do you think we'll pass

1:26:49 But who knows? Right, if you don't abuse it. Yes. So, man okay some people don't have any side effect of it right they don't It's going to be, I don't know, It's hard to say. Yeah, yeah. I stayed up all night and had the sparring the next day. Then it's the blood, the blood that comes out, man. Like, what the hell? it was very, week, when I'm going to eat,

1:29:17 I see a difference. So it's not healthy about health issue But I said, yes, I do it. That's what excites me. Kevin Lee is about my size. Like I was like big guy. very much longer. Maybe I have one, Do you have an idea? What if you feel just as good? old, it's finished for me. Fighting in a cage? So it has to happen fast. That's why, Joe, it needs to be something that really

1:32:40 you're the inspiration, man. It's death blow, it's finish. Now, everything I do, I go further and further. the 155, I'm like, I never that do something man, I cannot do that, make me going crazy. I traveled a lot of the world on the sight. I like to get the knowledge of it, In MMA, I'm willing to put the work into it to become the champion you know

1:35:12 sport better or something like that Every time there's a new discovery or something, like boom. I was there with paleontologists, biologists, and microbiologists on site. I did not find it, Yeah. It was like Cretaceous, but it was like 100 million years. It's like a crime scene that you discover, and you just get the shape of the bone that's sort of been fossilized.

1:37:21 Megalodon is, like, the strongest bite force ever recorded, man. time it was like like I'm talking about this probably nobody cares, but I love it They were like three giant apex predator living in the same like a giant crocodile sarcosaurus and he found And they excavated this T-Rex in his ranch. It was very bad. My mom said, yeah, yeah, it's a dinosaur state.

1:39:42 So it's all gone. is like this mucky ground Yeah, you know all about that shit. It's called the Missouri Breaks. Sometimes I'm thinking, Drew, on the climate. an effect. Because of the current and everything. recent record It would be, I'm very interesting about that. Yeah, man. like, you know, most people that I attract with, Like, I think there would be life form.

1:43:17 They're not going to kidnap a farmer and ask him what kind of suspension he's wearing. I mean, I don't know. but I don't know how this has been given to us. I say, my mom is the monster. He made research and stuff. Right. on, I saw some documentary on TV. I saw some people that had the similar experience as I'm like, we were misinformed. can touch this table move this microphone around these are physical

1:47:02 I agree. word right it's a really it has religious connotations but i agree but the the idea of whatever your essence is as a human being there's there's something inside of all of us that makes that are released in your brain, lungs we believe they're produced by your third eye which is your pineal gland they've shown the When you sleep, like you have a guy, Matthew Walker.

1:48:58 Sometimes you're at night alone and you're thinking. what if it's Just a dimension, a non-physical dimension of consciousness where all consciousness interacts with each other and it's just geometric patterns that don't have a physical being attached to them. I believe there is no people, let's say I'm a person, unfortunately. short temper remember he had a girlfriend was extremely jealous he was

1:51:30 It's possible, but it's also possible. Who really knows? a fucked up way because you've got dementia or Parkinson's or what other neurological disorders is that he's still in there he just can't express himself because his body had been damaged by so many fights and so many Like a locomotion Through healthy hormones, a healthy endocrine system, a healthy neurological system.

1:54:32 change that occurs in your body. I think they're all connected. He's not here. then is the body a vehicle for whatever you are? You're done. A lot of idea has been presented to me. There's a reason. the reason, man, I was like yeah of your life experiences they say oh yeah But I believe I have no choice. cause to everything. And by definition, there is a cause. There is no free will. Well, it's a good

1:58:35 The men that were teaching knowledge to kids in exchange of sexual favor. Like, I don't know, man. Let's say you want to kill someone. on how you see, Joe. It all depends on how okay this guy is Adolf Hitler it depends Feras, and Feras is very smart. He that, but maybe he won't because the the balls are ending up on the table. It's impossible to me. If I would know,

2:01:37 It's impossible to measure. Is it the fault of those people and that's one of the things that people really criticize and I think rightly so about like Yeah, So sometimes, We don't, if or like it's not that I'm nice. I don't care. And he shouldn't have done this. It's like in the evening. in school. I park my car, I would be angry you're a tall guy you're good looking like what you're doing here man it's like i give him what

2:05:34 So I shake his hand. I'm like, yeah, I met him. Now I have a job and I feel good. pants that you can tight like this it was like taking off so i was like an underwear in front My dad, one time, I got beat up in the bus. I'm from countryside, so everybody knows who everybody lives. focused on the school his dad was like drinking He was beating me up because he learned the same way from his dad to communicate.

2:08:33 So I used to go fight him all the time because I was proud. but through his eyes just to say that and give him money and him doing that to you was one of the reasons And he was like the taller, stronger guy. but that's my philosophy in life. Right, right, right. But you are a good guy. through my value are not the good guys. they're boring guys like it

2:11:27 Man, Tito Ortiz, man, he was amazing. the first episode. I'm hoping Daniel That's how you see things. Like, people, When you talk about this, I can communicate it because you're a person too that you get interested whenever you want I like to But it doesn't mean I like everybody, you know? And I feel better around them. Example, before a fight, my family, I stay the hell away from them.

2:14:46 And before I fight, they see me like an outcast. I stay away from a lot of the people that I love, When you go to war, you don't bring your wife, your kid, your family. I believe no that makes a lot of sense people's i know you don't i really do and i and i know you maybe a lot of people don't don't Normally, when I was very active, So more time, more money, more business hours

2:17:22 I care so much about it that it is freaking unbearable. like VIP stuff But there is a thing about my job that I hate the most is fighting. nobody's faster than this. He said, you like to fight? in a cage in front of a million people, the feeling is unbelievable do you hate no no no no Your day. he used to kick out the door, So I used, it's like a bubble that built up in my stomach

2:20:04 And I see something is wrong. I dinner, everybody's like dead people like this. And I see where something is wrong. he's like, hey, Amen lost. agents you don't want to talk to them yeah oh it's gonna be fine don I want to be a warrior I don't want to be like agents you don't want to talk to them yeah oh it's gonna be fine the first time he slams everybody

2:21:28 Everybody freaking knows. They say that the spirit can dictate your mind. but I don't. And I think of it looking at me. It's like these young guys, they lose. I still hate my job, but I'm a different person than when I got in the door. very basic in a fight but they If you have the skills, but you don't have the confidence, But if you have both, that's when the magic can happen.

2:23:55 Try to work on your person to build it. there, when I got there that night, like every other night that I'm fighting, Do you become, how do you say, this monument. Oh, my God. The confidence was not there. they get into a fight, in the gym. That he just did a katagatami or something. Yair Rodriguez is amazing. The thing is, Khabib called me out. and there's other guys too

2:27:01 or I don't even think it should be a belt. Right. The belt, it claims, it elevates someone like you think he's a god, he's the strongest man. It's bad to criticize a system if you don't suggest any alternative. fighting Al Iaquinta, who decisions like that yeah because you in many people's eyes in the eyes of the It's not good. Yeah, but I think is the legitimate champion

2:29:13 like I said I should have retired And I realize that. One of the reasons why it's a lot to take is because you're smart. I think a lot. because they're not aware of all the possibilities He's probably right now the best. Man, TJ Delechere. But if there's a fight Against TJ Delechere I don't, um, don't know that, that, that back in the day I thought and then Silva, it's a lot of things. Why it didn't happen? Is there stuff that people don't know that back in the day I taught

2:32:29 Especially when he's dealing with this incredibly long win streak. You know what I mean? is worried it will make him look bad if it's that much You have to wear a pink Speedo. Let's do it, man. quite a while in the UFC right now man, fucking with them. Yeah. how beautiful was that armbar that Demetrius in terms of, for learning, man, how beautiful was that

2:34:52 I practice it now. every time, We trained when I was in Denver, fuck that thanks god I didn't that is like a light Yeah. 270? You gotta fucking move And quick man Yeah It's a good experience. they lose a lot of their guys, they come hard at me, So why does Feras do that? The emperor John, like Star Wars. Gary Tony, Sometimes it is. it's dark fight the wing fight

2:38:22 round with one minute Because you lose time while you're making. No more five-minute round. I let him stand up, because I learned the pattern of this thing that when you do this you like to Jiu-Jitsu is more, it's not much of a dynamic, I mean, you're going to train with Freddie Roach now. I try to train at least four days a week that are twice a day

2:40:55 You don't lift weights? No, man. I don't. But I train in the pool. And it's like doing flies, but instead of that, Like a cable? And it's Gavin McMillan that made me discover this form of training If it wouldn't be for this, my ulcercer i feel better now at 37 that i feel at 25 You think that is the thing that everybody does today. they say, I'm a better fighter.

2:43:21 I spar with some look, so it doesn't load up my joint. I say a hundred, And this is something So the thing that you don't have conditioning i don't do for making me a better fighter. I do it because I want to look good. John Danner will make me be more creative, have better arm bars. A lot of times when I'm arguing, I'm just playing the devil's advocate.

2:45:22 It's not because he's got a better cardio than you you know or They try to sell you the program. But it's so efficient. It's perfect. It's all about selling you the thing. and it's good for me to have muscle for my brand, You know what I mean? He's probably the heaviest hitter I've ever seen in my life. that's because of his form, It's bone structure too,

2:48:06 the human being that I've hit, I've never seen a human being It's not because Like, That's why when you turn and you make that spin, You know what I mean? I learn in a different way. whereas the kicking leg is almost independent of the lower leg, and the kicking leg is better to generate force, whereas the kicking leg is is pushing and this is going forward.

2:50:26 Man, I remember the bag when you were working in, You know we work together because of Donaher Yeah, cuz John came up to me and just asking me because I was a commentator He knew. If he would have said it, he would have kind of... he knew then I couldn't believe it It's insane, man. So I haven't fought in forever. video of me when I was 19 from a I don't know.

2:53:08 like your technique is freaking, it's, it's incredibly oh okay okay I was kind of like It's just a crazy technique. it was a different thing was if you couldn't each other There had to be more power into those techniques. Okay, okay. Nobody I know. Now I went back to karate, my last fight. I just don't have the same efficiency with it. See, the front leg side kick, you develop that, boom, that knee comes up, and then, boom, it's all in thrusting that hip and popping it forward.

2:56:30 Okay. No, I'm 50. Shit. I didn't pay attention in school at all. But then the problem was I started sparring with kickboxers and getting fucked up. And I realized that Taekwondo has no hands. Like I needed to learn how to box first. Yeah. at all, man. No, he'll get killed. very different. Even the distance, the timing, it'sirty boxing, glitching is very different.

2:59:03 Not because I'm a better wrestler. blitzing and like about Wonderboy I leave on Friday. We're going to come in here and watch it. Saturday. know nothing about fight. are not really fighters. I'm freaking out. try to correct them. used to but i put he would if he listen to this like it's the same I like them. I still love you guys but oh my Where do you got to go?

3:02:01 Yeah, but I missed the freaking back kick instructional, which I want to do. You don't mind now?