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Joe Rogan Experience #10035 — Israel Adesanya Transcript

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0:00 four three two one style bender ladies and gentlemen salute sir congratulations man Yeah. the mastermind behind all this eugene behrman our time because my coach, he's the mastermind There's no rush. he's been up and down in something else like jiu-jitsu. You built up some hype in MMA, There was one that, was it Brendan Dorman? It was Kenshin. third fight of the night so it was a tournament so the final fight and i hurt my foot on his head

3:01 100%. Like, okay, he's right here. Because I've had it done to me. on the other side of that. So it's been like Is that what he said to me? just sleeping on him. Yeah, of course. Like, so many. Kai we're about to like take it to the next level and then bring bring NZ sports again all the way I mean, it's one of the most rich Like when I came to help rumble with his camp for John Jones,

5:43 man, I wanted you to know that Even Ray Seffel, we come from the same school. And he's just obsessed so they're They'll see you in the gym and you when you have a guy like that in the gym Of course. So whenever he comes into MMA or the UFC, then everyone's going to be like, A lot. See, for me with kickboxing, I know. history just up here but for me I just came in and I enjoyed it and I jumped in the pool.

9:04 and guys who entered into MMA. What's happening to him now? Yeah Like, if I wanted to take But for me, I never wanted to feel vulnerable. It's like, okay, you're a man. And I had that. Yeah, submission. had a one fc or one one championship and knocked the guy with the one two yeah that wasn't a jiu Like now, if I watch my fight after it happened, I look.

12:05 you can still find your ways around them and i they made this the ring was probably if you put it's very rare you get a boxing ring that has anywhere near the kind of distance from corner to corner. Everybody thought that. he looked like guns blazing I was like, hell no. was like, I tried and just Yeah. Except for, you know, 10 hours later, It's life, huh?

14:45 I'm the runt of my people. so I looked like a lollipop. Dang, you got taller. Yeah, 2008, early 2008, I found that. Yeah. Wow. Not all of them. Because I've always been a dancer as well, You just went into a zone? Kgs, pounds. And you have to realize, at a certain point, I realized, okay, this is not the guy to get me to that level I want to be. guy he just said okay i want you to jab like this and it would almost be like trying to get someone

18:52 having the ability to get an underhook or double underhooks quickly yeah but in kickboxing I think you can train the eyes, I remember that one with the four right hooks he hit that guy with. Lead, left, hook. Oh, they forgot. But I saw Prince Nassim Hamed and I remember this when I was about four but he was because I've always seen boxing on TV you know,

20:39 I mean, Still talks well. But none of them were, like, dangerous. He rolled with them. Yeah I rolled with everything. I fucked Drop it down to the chin a little bit. So on the same card, Uriah Hall fought Paulo Costa. that's whatever and when i got some money and i was talking to the guy that led me and then because But they've done this a long time.

22:57 We'll probably fight more than once because he's one of those guys, I'm like, when we saw him still has tremendous potential Not just like, you know. And then your stupid coach says, I'll fuck up and do anybody. Jump in the pool too quick. I had a conversation with a friend of mine who was a jiu-jitsu, he was badass Like, nasty on the ground. I go, think about what you could do me man he was a black belt in jiu jitsu like nasty on the ground

24:53 or something like that like that to you gonna fuck you up there's not a damn thing you could do about it and it's almost the same as him grabbing a white belt street fights so many street fights i'm like dude okay just push your knee down you know like just Well, how old are you now? Woo! Yeah. And then, I keep saying but it just seemed like he gave out.

27:28 way he just handled him i was like that yeah that's the guy you know what it really did open When I saw that fight on paper, I was like, oh, this is crazy. It was beautiful. I remember telling people because I was afraid. And the lightness of his feet, man. Yeah, ping, ping. This is perfect. And it's over. Rocked him He had an unbelievable heart That he had

30:00 you know a guy who's trying to fuck him up he doesn't have like someone who you really give He just runs through people. Cejudo got better since the first fight. He looked like Machida. Great at wrestling. Yeah, that's the key, I think. That's next level. it's VO2 Max, and then wrestling for two minutes, Yeah. He started out as a wrestler, but he understands MMA as good as anybody that's ever talked on the mic about MMA.

32:44 Crazy, crazy. I was yelling off down the fight. I was just already lit by that time. Crazy. Crazy. Holy fuck. That is a beautiful picture because they've been working together for so close. Like, oh! And John Anik stands up. There's a picture I put on Instagram. That is a beautiful picture. Currently. If that was a girl, what would you call her? So it's deceptive.

34:01 How about that? And that was Burnett with five rounds. That was just crazy and they were gonna but Yeah. light heavyweight? yeah they talked about it as well Jon Jones myself when I was watching my fight I've only seen it once I was after I was like, okay, this is what I did good, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. certain tendencies I haven't really worn

36:22 and I was like, certain things like that were things like they're good, Yeah, I was like, oh, that's nice. Sean O'Malley throws this like spin and then the head kick. And that was when Yair Rodriguez 360 roundhouse kicked BJ Penn in the face. I was like, you've got just kept on moving with it yeah when yair rodriguez 360 roundhouse So I'll give it away.

38:13 I never hit anybody with that. But if you're in the open, it's hard to land that. And what it was was the first fight where we got to see Rick Rufus Yeah, Lawrence. They're all working together for the very good. There's a lot of these guys that do this. but I think he started out in the 60s or 70s at the most. But I think in the first round, he hit him with that side kick, jump spinning back kick to the face and really hurt him.

40:23 Oh, he hurt him with that left hand. Yeah, 4x2. Yeah, he dropped it. Oh, nice. Oh, he hurt him with that left hand. So interesting. right like it feels like a stegosaurus's back but sometimes when you feel it it's like steel And just fought off. I think, I was like, whatever. Three weeks after that fight How long Filled with blood I heal quick. Shit.

42:39 And Pedro Hizzo was over there. could never that no one can take that you can't take that pedro had that he had that you can't Completely committed The wrong guy That's another guy from the UFC I think Tim Sylvia beat him for the title. He's all giant now. Yeah, and he was real, like a, you know, like when you get a baby giraffe trying to figure I'm going to find another day.

44:50 everybody was on the sauce take steroids whoever's on the new shit they can't get caught just yet till they update their testings yeah They took gold medals away from two Russian cats in the 2000s because they went back and Yeah. You're like doing an impression. He's a man. I can be cool with him because I know me. Ah! and Performance Golden snitch.

47:50 Damn, he says I have a voice on YouTube for a lot of different. That's weird Stop listening to music i'm actually out here like i've listened to this for so long and it's like yeah i belong here now No, check back in. Fuck rankings, got that shot against because he wasn't ranked in the top 100%. analysts are they experts because it feels like if you want to be instead of figuring out who did

50:48 that's a big one in my head I was like oh fuck Yep. Like, how the fuck did I lose that fight in your eyes? Done. that there's something like 150 different fighters That's careful. I can do 185 and 195. Yeah. Nice. I can feel like I'm about 98 kg – oh, 93 kg today. I don't know. the old one i sent it to him and he said they've updated it so i said okay next time probably i'll

54:10 I was just like mentally sitting there like, four cages is not bad. As you get closer to the actual weigh-ins, we cut back on the fat and start incorporating frozen fruits. so they don't have to worry about the body absorbing the water that means we can give them and then after the fight once it's time to weigh in i'm good and i'm just all right eat healthy

56:23 is i'll give you some elk sausage that's the thing i'll give you is i'll give you some elk sausage about a guy like you that's interesting to me is like it's very obvious that you had very good almost like NLP cuz nor some people use things coming at them in a certain speed And then he sped up at his own. Oh, okay. well the question mark kick is the ultimate deception i got a few more that's just the

59:10 That was sick. Made that guy do the when they fought him, but what I like about your style and you just kind of like hope something cool happens relentless with his pressure. I'm like, or you feel them. It's an energy. I actually brought him in it was in the second round like circling I just picked them apart. You're not really Domination in that fight

1:01:48 Yes. Like Mayweather, get in, get out, you're fighting correctly. Facts correctly but in order to push further if you were trying to make it more exciting and So I take risks, but I calculate my risks. It's a crazy thing to do. In Brazil, yeah. So that for me was two firsts for the first time. And he was like, well, he had the pressure. But what's his name

1:04:18 online like you were real open about it on instagram and because that's the fair like It's like, oh, shit, I teed him up. you know like guess you shouldn't I just went berserk done if I was you know being true to myself is just alright cool where's the I'm like, all right, make your way up. And the judges gave it to him. run company I've ever like come across I fall around the world fought for glory fought in China

1:06:35 and now the new organization is basically most of the old organization. Next one is next. I mean. but Romero did significantly hurt Whitaker twice. I was looking. He's just like a thick burger, like huge. Of the cage to the other And he just did So that was about Look at me run How the fuck did he make 170 You see him on Instagram Perfect. Yeah. Well, he would just swing for the fucking bleachers.

1:09:59 he hit him with that i was like jesus Jesus Christ. Yeah. He had ridiculous punching power. Chuck did back in the day. I don't know, man, Everybody was like, maybe he hasn't hit pads I would think that. But he's not going to be like that either way. Do you roll? I stopped when I was probably 28, 29. One, I wanted to go to Hard Times Billiards. I forget the name.

1:12:38 Yeah. Please look that up. It was PKA karate with kickboxing, but it was above the waist like Rick Rufus style. to spell his name but ridiculous caught him with a left hook Yeah, I mean, this is. Yeah, he was. from that low kick just to be there when I was here fucking roof, when it would rain, it would just flood the whole gym. Ortiz, Liddell See him hitting pads

1:15:22 Yeah he's still active Tito's, his whole back is all surgery, man. Putting some spacer in his neck. And wrestling. neglected all that stuff with like Cairo, strength and conditioning work and thing is i know not much about these things like even when he a lot of plyometrics, like exploding. Two times a week. for each camp we'll adjust the timetable accordingly so for example when I go back

1:17:52 How long will you chill for, you think? When you do plyos and things along those lines, do you stretch heavily afterwards? Explosive exercise But if I had to do a full split right now, If it was between live or die, never see your family again, your body have some just sit down just sit down for the first time and just feel the heat just I know that dude's nuts.

1:20:10 based on him trying to copyright Well, he was trying to claim them in succession. Sit in the back of the class. Everywhere you go. don't even know if that was his idea i think there was other people that did that he sued people oh And he's like this, like as if there's a bunch of people waiting. What does he even look like? Okay. It'd be like powder.

1:22:36 Not bad. Look, let's go back to that picture again real quick. Gravity is a thing. He's going to send it. look at that guy an amateur yoga guy yeah okay like Holy shit. Wow, look at that girl. That's from the Kama Sutra. Yeah. Might be. Yeah, he's got a right to flex, man. Someone should do it. You said that earlier. Really? It's spelled R-I. Hold on a second.

1:25:07 Seriously, are your hands that sweaty? back to dance because i felt like i had this dance you know how people get writer's block It's muscle memory. So dancing really translates into muscle memory like that in an effortless way. I thought they were cool when I was a kid. fighter but it makes you have better control of your body yeah and the thing about like holding a sidekick up in the air yeah there's a lot of people that

1:27:29 you can go one side too much Nick Diaz has changed what spinning shit is by saying that, oh, we're throwing spinning shit now. He fights, I think, out of Ruka. He's a great guy. I think the lack of the UFC Talking Nick Diaz into a fight But they haven't fought in forever Oh, nice. I love that dude, congratulations. Yeah. Salute. Either congratulations you had a kid or congratulations that you didn't. I love that dude, though.

1:29:15 I think I sat down for that fight. He got clipped, too. just gave out. Like that fight. And yeah, Oh, dude. Yeah, I saw that interview. Find the shot. you. Where you're like, hup, hup, hup. round to him but i don't know which round he gave because i thought i had all five rounds after oh, he didn't finish Brad, though. I was fine. So after this fight, honestly, I had the reserve ready.

1:32:12 Probably not anymore. in like three rounds. But, yeah, I just felt like I would have taken him in two or three rounds, dude you know who the fuck i am now you know and i said after my first fight because these guys No, he looks like fucking Ariel. Dude, he fought in UFC 12. in a jiu-jitsu match who was a Carlson Gracie It was a big ass audience. maybe a blue belt.

1:34:27 I tried it a little bit. Scoot ahead a little bit and you see Waleed gets that clock choke. He's out. He was on the outside. But this was back, see, there was Carlson back then. so he's just managing now but like he's the Paula's and if he wins like you were saying he gets hit He hit the jab. He didn't respect his jab. No, that's from, what's his name?

1:36:55 That ain't even a double knuckle. slip the jab and counter. overall pad work game or how do you the pad work eugene he has his own system and he he knows what the things that I kind of bring myself, And he has his own setup. So I like to create on my own and then if I have any ideas or anything that I feel There's a few of these guys that are coming up where you watch them and you go, whoa, there's some next level.

1:39:22 level shit. I've seen a lot. I mean, I'm sure there's been some all-time greats You see my fight as well. I like Yeah, 100%. Rhythm, timing, offbeat, onbeat. like I watch his ground and pound I like the way he traps the hands. So I hold it and I peppered him a little bit. I want this title shot. But he called him out on TV like, bro, you look like you just woke up.

1:41:42 Yeah, facts. He might've got hit And be slack Long range I like his chokes Not just that up submissions is so next level. That is tight. This wasn't slippery. He jumped on his guard. I would have squeezed that. That's what he has got it. I want that that's the thing cuz I can get it He's a beast, man. Well, knocking out Frankie was giant, He fought Cubs once, and that's a dangerous fight to take

1:44:37 Yeah. And I was like, whatever. It was chaos. And then the kid again came over next to me and just laid on the ground just like, and It's probably his kid, right? We just sat there, and I was like, what happened? And he just we just sat there and I was like what happened yeah only ever knockout loss You ain't shit. i should have stayed true to me and just fucked them up in the second round i would have knocked

1:47:15 I fucking hate losing. And then, okay, extra round. I lived my life. What's next? That's why I'll sit down and look at the T-Mobile arena and just like, I might have been a little iry as well. into this you know yeah that's a good attitude It's just appreciating what you've done because you've put a lot of work into this, you know? bitch yeah everybody has an inner bitch i know tell me about it there's no way around it if

1:49:38 Never again. I don't care. Comedian, podcast. So if you're not enjoying, it doesn't matter what it is, just opt out. yeah that's what I tell my homies all the time they become like groupies Yeah, and watch them on TV going whoa So you need people like that. you're a little slow today, or today we're going to ramp it up. keep telling my teammates that they're gonna talk about us the way we talk about them but we don't

1:52:34 I love New Zealand. because guys always that guy right sparring you might try to hurt you exactly and bro yeah we can drinks out of a shoe oh yeah they don't give a fuck aussie is like the the attitude and then But, yeah, I don't know. Who else? Yeah. I get jealous. Good for you, man. Thank you, brother. I get more comfortable Everywhere.