Joe Rogan Experience #1004 — W. Kamau Bell Transcript

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0:00 four three two one yes and we're live you know he's always wonder when I see a What's he trying to do? of like, wait a minute. I used to go to his spoken word shows. Henry just picks a spot on the map. Brings a laptop and a camera and some clothes. His manager. does is they keep your shit organized. But he does it. Decided not to come back yet. He just did whatever he, I mean, he has his comedy central show and

3:18 Yeah, just three hours. I don't know about that, man. That's what I mean. Machine and pick up that big check. Other than that, after 10 years, he's like, I'm done and hasn't been seen that's that becomes a real problem you way better off with the resources but no star yeah you just hey, you go do the thing. Just slide around. Imagine how many people are trying to grab at Oprah.

6:28 I mean, if I had done that show, I don't, Dr. Phil still has a show that she's making money off of. And she's, and he's sitting in her check, you know, still breaking. Yeah, somebody's got to go did Google this. Did she say something about a particular company? Interesting. Yeah. What? I wonder what it was that she said. Oh, is that at least some weird shit they only have in Texas?

8:42 Houston used to look like versus what it looks like now. So that's when it gets, that's the, This is fucking insane. that were like piled up together in houses yeah and it's elevated. Yeah, sometimes it works. but he put up a link to donate money donate money for the flood relief here, That's so scary. Yeah. Well, that's like when you found out the Scientology doesn't have to pay taxes. He's like wait what?

11:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. you got money you got a fuck load of, and it all comes from preaching the word. Oh, those guys, there's too much money involved. If the preacher's rich, then we're all rich. Eventually it'll come to you. tenfold. Yeah, that's exactly the thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite is Robert Tilden.

13:37 Satan gets a black eye. He's not in it. I don't know if that's really him or not. We have to crack the mystery. But the money should be the scandal. That's when they first started bringing in those right-wing evangelical people and making them a part of the Republican Party and a part of the campaigns. No, no, no. I'm on CNN. Like, you know, it's not like it doesn't always come to me, but somebody was like, I did something

16:16 live in the Bay Area so a lot I was like what are my friends gonna think you know CNN is not as much I live in the Bay Area, man. Yeah. It's all perspective, right? And I'm just like, well, you know, I'm in there. Well, really, Jeff Zucker. the russia tapes or like now it's just like uh houston over and over yes like you know exactly I don't want to be looking like, look at how fun it is in Florida.

18:34 probably Russia. Thursday's bad? Yeah. And then all of a sudden they're like, hey, you're still doing that? Where's that tweet? to have some thoughts and an agenda as we're sort of in a, you know, like there's a, I Like, things are happening now, you know? Which means you have a lot of influence. to wonder like at what point in time does a, some sort of a candidate from the democratic

21:34 But so I would say this, that I hope that that person is somebody whose name we don't even know yet. Good looking, smooth, calm. Whether you agreed with him or not, and I certainly didn't agree with everything he did, he felt like a grown up who was making thoughtful adult decisions that sometimes I disagreed with, but I knew he had thought them through. Now, when the president represents the country and he's talking shit about people bleeding from plastic surgery and, you know, fake news and yelling about this and then saying things that are just absolutely not true that turn out to not be true.

23:24 Yeah. when you're saying something from the heart This is so crazy. I can't, And that is an act of aggression. Mostly on the side of not that not the alt-right so four thousand people. On which side? Mostly on the side of not the alt-right. Boston recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes you get arrested But if you look at there. There was young people there.

26:06 And all that stuff got overplayed. They need a riot in order to get clicks. Yeah. Like they don't, those people don't show up unless the shit hits, unless they feel like the shit is hitting the fan. they were, some people were confused and thought they were that erupted in violence because the police were standing by watching it happen. Right. They didn't

28:36 So who's in charge? Well, that actually makes sense. Yeah. Right. He bragged about the things, profiling people and bragged about abusing people. You know, look, he was raised in America. I mean, we're not supposed to be a country that is that punitive with the law. Was he going to the outside hot prison? comedians that have been arrested in la for drunk driving they never did a day in jail yeah you know

32:01 Like, I mean, like I did, we did an episode of United Shades in the first season about Like what? know, like whatever you can. So, but didn't have any weapons and he's like that. Now that's bad, Not Joe Arpaio. This is not the same scales of justice we're talking about. It's bad. i believe is the country uh jamie might have to look it up that the longest prison prison

34:25 Yeah. Small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. It's double down on the Lord. there's a sense of like, I have, there's lots of other But when you come out you're more prepared for the world as opposed to guys in other prisons in So if you like are in prison in California for something, you know that you know shooting a gun in the air And so to me, like the whole, I mean, you know, the, you know, and there's a lot of money that's already in prisons that's not being used well.

36:32 That's where it gets dark. The goal is not to turn these guys into better citizens. I mean, you're talking about violent crimes. Yeah. like marijuana and other things But the problem is that nobody then wants to release them from prison. one case. So that's, that becomes the face. I'm sorry, KQED did. Or, I mean, there's just that mob mentality. You can feel it in the air when shit's going sideways.

40:08 Some people respond with the nonviolent thing. But there's a lot of people that equate him, even though he's an Orthodox Jew, a lot of And I just talked to somebody from the ACLU on my other podcast about the whole hate speech thing. Then Hillary will win. Yeah. He's going to be there forever. And they let him? So there is a precedence for this is all I'm saying.

42:37 me having to move out of America you know so that's he's not that I'm not that guy yeah but That's the problem. That's not an anarchist. Oh, that's a I think it's probably Bay Area. How long is that been going? To do with you getting into the Verizon store. That's nothing to do with you ransacking this Yeah, black guy. Black guy waded through They think it's all one thing.

45:01 Like that's not like, you know, It's like, you know, as long as you don not, as long as you don't want to start a fight, We're like, I don't feel in my life that I'm understood, but we don't agree with each other. He's a professor at UC Berkeley Clinton White House Here's the issue with Ann Coulter. I'm a black guy. I'm not trying to. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't have enough time.

48:24 No, it's absolutely true. I think she thinks she're funny. Fuck off. That's the nature of comedy, yeah. But if you're not funny, fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's absolutely true. it happen before, where he was targeting students, either undocumented students, he was naming but those issues of what is free speech and what isn't free speech or freedom

49:20 oh, Isn't that weird, though? Like Mayweather, want to fight again, McGregor? with citronella candles they got from Home Depot. But the whole torch thing, like what the fuck are you doing? They want to look supreme Like we're at step one Like a step below We didn't want to be fired. Those burn too quickly. Wind and air works and velocity. Backyard torches. Like, what?

53:02 through the streets of Charlottesville there's a guy walking the street with a blowtorch that she it's only now because we think like Like, where are these guys meeting up to figure this out? doing in the first place which is why when the president goes on both sides. Yeah sort of an articulate response to that where he's saying like, look, ladies and gentlemen,

55:42 I don't think men should do anything when they're 70. Yeah, you should sit down. about when the Republicans were freaking out And people were like, you need to wear, like Bush's thing was he always wore, W. Bush always wore a full suit. of stepped into it like yeah i yeah, I like this spot. The things they found are, it's big. Like, you know, using the military and nations and killing innocent civilians that, you know, that didn't need to be caught up in war.

57:55 Also, I don't think he really, you know, the thing that Trump does really effectively, was times it's like dude just you could you are an effective speaker you could really push through black president? You know what I mean? removed that section of the hope and change website they deleted it after the whole uh you who's reasonable. then when you put those people in there,

1:00:57 No one has enough of an attention. But I do think, and I want to be clear, because I don't mean like setting things on fire. Could you please send this to the schools? just the sheer money in politics with lobbyists. And, you know, there's this one community outside I'm a capitalist. you know i'm i'm in kevin hart's career you know what i mean like i'm not kevin hart and i have a

1:03:19 Well, you have interests. I want a bigger house so I can move my mom out to. I, you go to the website and you put in like your zip code and you will see the school, but certainly public schools put their paycheck back into the school because they go the kids yeah, And that's even private school teachers do that, You know what I mean? I feel like that's that's a thing. But I mean, that is literally what made the guy who created Scientology get involved in it.

1:06:02 But then there's all these motivational speaker type people. Not even a good one. I don't, you know, what's your resume that you get to tell this? motivational speaking and you could be like, who are sort of not, books yeah the new take on Jesus is what Bieber's guy's doing right I keep hearing He knows how to tickle those balls of Jesus lovers. he's had all the new houses, all the cars

1:08:26 Once you get to that I bet you can find out But Jesus with the hipster haircut See, Yeah. and i mean we already saw how that works out with michael jackson like it doesn't it doesn't it Where the fuck is she? Yeah, it's like that, you know, that's not a, you know, I have my daughter. I didn't have that opinion until like maybe about five or six years ago

1:11:10 Yeah. the world doesn't read doesn't pay attention isn't that's what i think is so awful about The furniture, the chandelier. So what if he wanted to do like black light of running for president only elevates Right. It's like a new way to the top. yeah and it's there's also this idea that he wings things yes like he gets and has these No, I'm talking like way early.

1:14:13 No. as a nation. Even fans of Hillary are like, we got And the reporter said, well, actually, sir, that's not true because of this and that and He goes, you are the president. as far as, like, he's surrounded by people That is insane. saying Donald J. Trump this is what shown during round three of the senior pga championship at trump national golf course on

1:16:46 and brought it to him? blah, uh, He's adamant about A lot of them. He claimed it told him the site was known as the river of blood to win. Meanwhile, let's again, Barack Obama had to pull out several copies of his birth certificate. They told me I was born in New Jersey, but I wasn't there. by divine birthright, you were shit out in Michigan. If you start to buy the how he was, it was a fake birth certificate because his parents

1:19:35 He's trying to destroy America. that he shouldn't even be president because he's not He can you question people's mental facility, but is he a serious enough person to run for president? picture. It wasn't that picture. It wasn't that. For sure. He needs to feel like the... fronts, even TV. It's not Entertainment and then he, you know. have looked at the original it's like it's clearly not the right like the font isn't laid out there's

1:22:37 no i think he yeah i don't think he could have anticipated that he was running against 16 people Like, I guess I'll be the president. Well, who the fuck is going to do it next? That's what's thing about America. You can become the president and not even really want it if you're a rich white dude. Maybe. Like the idea that he, now that he's done, he's still like a young,

1:23:46 it was like, he would say, I listened to Jay-Z. never felt like the president is more disconnected from the people of the United States either. They hashtag MAGA. we get him. but it wasn't as fervent by the end, Like, you just, that someone It's like a Mardi Gras float that walked into the room. but then if you dig too deep into their records, And they got Dikembe Mutombo and Akeem Olajuwon.

1:26:33 I do, yeah. Yeah, I have to believe that it's... Okay, I'll go back to it. think he should make it through four years in the White the impeach thing, and also So I think it's way, if I'm in Vegas, it's way more likely, it's like the Floyd Mayweather I think the reality is that after four years, this is the thing. Like that, so didn't they take the name off of one of his buildings in downtown, New York that makes I mean

1:29:14 could leave cause he's annoyed by it all, but he'll have some big speech about, I've the lowest rate Yeah, it's all going some sort of a rise Well, I think he sells, I know he sells his name a lot. For now. He doesn't show his tax returns. And the problem is, is again, there may they may make it after Trump that it's a legal thing. So now that we know that, maybe,

1:31:22 That's just, I'm not making this a Republican, a Democrat. Is that what happened? Wow. And they get a number of pardons too, right? So Arpaio got one. McCain freaked out about Arpaio. McCain's from In McCain's defense, he had a brain tumor. Is there a limit? and the way I would pardon people. But that's not the most. Most, uh, most granted clemency by Obama had been convicted on drug charges and have received

1:34:52 We were getting close. where people go to the bathroom Yeah, there's a point at which there's a meaty part of life where you're in the world doing things, and you're in the mix. How well does your body work? Well it does who really wants Stimulants, I don't I wonder where the guy gets the energy like when he was when he was doing that whole thing with Hillary and

1:37:05 it's not like... reason to medically prescribe it to people, I don't know if it's his actual truth, but it's MSNBC. at the end Tweet storm. Greenberg was later publicly shamed. He says he's writing a book and doing research, so I don't know where he found this though like you have to kind of like The White House admitted it to me, said only for a short time for diet when he was not

1:39:32 Prescription filled at Dwayne Reed on 57th Street in Manhattan. Well, that would make sense. crashed his car under suspicious suspicious michael hastings remember that crashed his car Wink, wink, you got the good doctor. My TV told me to ask about these I'm really stressed out. Yeah. Like it is completely blown. while he's talking. he's not a guy who has declared his political affiliation that's true and he's a you know he's

1:42:30 I'm trying to get my pump on over here. like you yes that's the thing about the show that has been such a it's been so cool because you know to be in that position. And that was on FX? It was all these news things that thought like you could do something here with your It's like it was really like he was just the big news was all the kind of shit that if you have, like, the CNN app on your phone, you would know all of it.

1:44:44 You know, I think he wanted to see if I was for real. And he's like, what do you think Christie should do? I could travel to more than just white spaces and they like that idea and then The big one was where I went to the cross burning, what they call cross lighting. Look at the trailer. And they were more than willing to do all this on television, which is even more shocking.

1:47:08 like when you were talking to them like what what was the reason for them doing this they believe Jews, although I guess they were cooler with Catholics. How did that feel for you? and there's a line in the show and they're all standing there in detention. We advocate self-defense. everybody let's just oh we got to check the camera for a second and we it down. And then we set up chairs and we sat down and started talking.

1:49:54 pictures of me hanging out like laughing because i'm doing it as a way like yeah thanks man you Should not be the reason this is happening. You know and so it's just a convenient way to justify the wearing their goofy clothes And I was like, yeah, maybe you guys should have designed the hoods When she took her hood off, she was like, I mean, she looked like the you know britney spears at 18 like this blonde you know

1:52:12 could make a lot of money off you kid isn't it so funny though that it's just what you're exposed to Then you end up, you know, and you just see that it's about circumstance. And he was excited to talk about how the burn, like, where do you get the wood from? And also, like, at the whole time, I was like, I don't know what's. And he was like, well, I don't believe you.

1:54:11 Like I was like, because if you're making people laugh, they generally, I would make them laugh about ridiculous things that were happening. Business card. That's not the real karate. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot. You know what I mean? But the surrounding area is much different. You're not from Iran, are you? you find assholes that are white and cool people

1:57:34 or affect us in some negative way. Really? But I didn't think, it wasn't something that was like, we didn't, the nation didn't set that as a goal. Like it just sort of happened and you're like, wait, I thought nothing. Touchy subject among some people. It doesn't actually affect you. it's just weird and scary to you. and they're just going to go crazy.

1:59:46 Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the ideas to pay for the wall. Yeah, that will create more conversation. Well. You're getting this weird opportunity They become like the host of a show. And then I'm being compared to those people, and I'm being judged against, like, well, I can go, I don't think that's a good way. Do the man on the street segments on totally bias he was like you need to get out there people don't know who you Are you need to mix it up with the people and I was like I don't like this, because he's the one who made me do the man on the street segment, so I'm totally biased. He was like, you need to get out there.

2:02:54 Hey, you're a guy who doesn't have a lot going on. those people get to have fun with him When I did it There's not other shows in me where I would be on camera like that. I live in Berkeley, so I'm not even available to audition for things. But this, I'm like, then that's the show I want it to be. you can't do two. But they don't pitch angles. And I'd like to meet Shannon Lee.

2:05:32 Yeah. I really learned a lot this week. and they will write it the way a journalist would do it. who then will sit in the, like, will'll be on the phone together in the VO booth It can't just be me and the news people I mean, Nobody visits Barrow. Like we actually walked so far north that we were on the ocean, but it was still frozen, you know Sometimes that's how we have conversations.

2:07:53 So it's not like, and it's like. when I was there yeah it's like it's like it's a real it's like a you don't for me the only thing talking to people that i've never talked to before. Just getting a chance to see America. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. you know, Can you be a feminist and a Muslim or that woman who's, It's about the expression of the religion.

2:10:35 No, I was there for a few hours. Are they just usurping my private land like this is kind of fucking crazy native people are like yeah winter and they're like there's people in teepees who were like and i had this whole conversation because again i got to sit and ask all the dumb questions that I have and other people have. It's going to make us money.

2:12:57 there she is there she is okay yeah she i mean and she was in the episode and she and we sat down i She would be able to tell you more better than I would. but there was anything that you got the most out of during that show? Yeah, I was riffing you know and it's this thing And he goes, how does it feel? these types of things and then if but then you realize they're never gonna leave they have a

2:15:21 It was Pinochle. it's like just one of it takes a lot of time so it actually playing chess in their head in front of me. Like, you are now contained and incarcerated. a pretty small finite list. It should be monsters. We should still be working on these people. But it's not because we're doing 40% of the crime.'s we black people do crime but we're over sentenced a lot of times

2:18:00 And then like right around the 80s, it goes. Look at that shit. in prison, right? If that's half a million, where this is a money-making enterprise so we need to keep people in here the jones magazine we we need people like they didn't do his identity. Where do you work? Mother Jones Magazine. We need people. The amount of money that they spend is directly related to the amount of money they earn

2:20:49 then like a hot dog like not with a bun just a hot dog you know what I mean So you're still late. Tell me some fun shit. What did you do that was fun? Like would fun things? What happened? Yeah, I don't know what happened, dude. He moved all his money over to Puerto Rico because you don't have to pay taxes. he'd been there before he's like there's houses for $25,000 and I was like calling my wife we

2:22:54 but your cell phone works. I want to go back so badly. have houses in Puerto Rico yeah but then I also feel weird cuz I'm not Puerto but I was happy to talk to a governor. why are we why are we sort of being subjugated by the united states why can't we be our own country Just as a resort destination. Well, Puerto Rico's not the East Coast. Time to go to Puerto Rico.

2:25:29 It's my wife that would not be. How many episodes have you done so far? Pumped. Like you felt that the talk had gone away? Like, they really feel the show in a very deep way. So I feel like now people are looking for the show We can't be repeating. Yeah, yeah, yes, but it's but I feel like I don't want to I don't want to separate myself from Cause I just feel like at the end of the day,

2:27:42 Like I'm still trying to do these things. And I think we need people that are articulate and thoughtful on all sides. Whether you, if you, I mean, you know, whether you want to be in Alabama or whether you want We're not all a bunch of liberal people on the same page. Because it's almost like they feel like they have to. Just the amount of money? I think we definitely need new ideas.

2:30:08 It's frustrating for people because they want immediate change. Like, who are these people that we didn't know existed because you live in Santa Monica? Yeah. and it adds layers to the way they understand human beings. And I'm happy that I have CNN's budget And that's one of the things You know, like, are we, are we really, we really work hard to pick the right people.

2:32:29 I'd rather. I would rather, you know, I mean, I'd probably rather Bannon. You know what grew up with the internet. Yeah, yeah, I would rather I would rather you know I mean I yeah, I'd rather ban it. You know what I mean like I feel like I don't believe that there's any there there Become death. That's not good. There was a push at one point to have Rosie O'Donnell do Trump, and I was like, that would

2:33:37 He's great, but I think that- But then, now that Scaramucci's gone, Spicer hasn't been like, can I have my job back? And that's your, like, the first thing you want me to tell people is a lie. Yeah. But. but I'm not blinking. Trump was, Hey, This is the president of the United States. If I say it, then it's worthy of the president saying it. If the queen says it, then that's what it is.

2:35:59 and she's talking to other public school teachers about, there are kids You know, like it's like you're like, because I have a lot going on right now. who gets in a fight and then they expel him. he's a role model, Wow, he wants to be the guy. Well, not everybody. Yeah, no, I think that so I put puts me. It's like I just in my lifetime the way or pick up some I think that's more likely like people like how many hours is that several

2:38:37 Woo! But it's exhausting to do that. Nobody cared. and the next day. the Women's March huh, the conversation going, You've got to slowly try to chip away and get back. And I think for our culture, it's going to take a while to sort all this out. We would put it in those offices with cubicles that are in a semicircle. And we wouldn't make, like, the Supreme Court a lifetime appointment.

2:41:29 Nobody could sell it to you. Yeah. to sort of they divide your neighborhood up into a way that sort of benefits the you know those are the things that are really that's why it's scary about who comes after trump because as long as Then we're sort of losing the plot of how this works. That's the actual country. That's not the same. talk to people in up and down California because that's already set.

2:43:40 There's good people in Iowa. like that each of our voices counts that voice is horrifying With all this other stuff. When Trump comes, a lot of them cheer because they're like, we just need... Trump, people in Chicago who voted for Hillary and not where these other parties have gone. Thanks for coming on, brother. Yeah. All right, fuckers.