Joe Rogan Experience #10040 — Eddie Bravo Transcript

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0:00 Ready? How do you pronounce his name correctly? I think Plasticel things Sunglasses He's six now. So I wanted to make sure I didn't do that too early Imagine how quick your brain is growing in that amount of years. He fucking loves those things, man. Has he seen anybody do it on video or only learn it from a class? daddy who's the guy with kid into Satanism you ever seen this little

2:58 five-year-old acting I go, the master of the nunchucks, the number one guy. He's the greatest martial artist of all time. You can go to YouTube and there's compilations. So he's just completely blown away. I filmed him watching Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee because he's constantly asking questions He wants to fucking know. martial arts movie of all time.

6:01 guy. Okay, Daddy, who are the good guys? Jim Kelly, Jim Kelly. Yeah, it was Roper, Williams, and Bruce Lee. island and and and and prostitution rings and all that completely forgot the kid, but I don't remember it too much. Yeah, you gotta go You remember Bolo Young and they're fighting outside in the tournament? I sit down my son and we're watching

8:08 He can't stop asking goddamn questions. That's another classic scene. on earth and he tries to recruit them. Yes. Yes, drugs and prostitution. And then, boom, you forget about the scenes where Han has like a madam and he's got all these hookers. What's going on here, Dad? Is this the scene? Next week, I made him sit down and watch Return of the Dragon,

11:33 But it's like high school kids put together that movie. chinese restaurant in italy and the mob, these guys, these are the handle the mob in Italy. Puts together this movie? That was his last one. there was no kind of movies like this before this. And it's all overdubbed, and it's god-awful. Like his kicking technique Winkle John Jackson had on his Instagram page.

14:36 I mean, there's that crouching tiger head and dragon. He's just fucking flying through the air and flipping through the air. can you put that with all the pads Jackson Wink yeah it's Jackson Winklejohn I just looked at Instagram page. Oh this guy's doing it in MMA Maybe they were commenting on it? He'll do wrestling. He does that against Chuck Norris in Way of the Dragon.

17:11 That was heresy back then. one of for sure. It's one guy, tries to figure out how to beat men who are bigger than him, has a bunch of I mean, Hickson, Hoyce, Hoyler, Helson, you know, what the fuck? he's almost as important. Patrick Smith could have fucked him up. Patrick Smith, that's the perfect ending right there. No. The ninja guy. You watch his striking.

19:50 He didn't get kicked. Such an explosion. tuesday night fights i i recorded that on my vcr always taped boxing events never missed them but I go, really? was going out um on the town and i remember calling him say hey dude that ufc2 that ufc That was my hero. Yeah. Yeah, because the jiu-jitsu would have eventually grew out of Brazil. A Mark Coleman type wrestler, a big, powerful wrestler who could take you down and beat

23:32 one-on-one football right i'd never looked at it but and i would use it to cheat in fights because But if you can master that, that is like one of the most important aspects of martial arts. Yeah. So like the Boss Rootin', Frank Shamrock, Ken Shamrock days, Matt Hume was in it back then. November of 93 was the first UFC. and then September and what

25:49 So maybe the idea was in the air. Remember? They've always been, like like the Sakuraba style. You could say whatever the hell you want. He's just crazy. Go to speedos. They had three pancreas events before that first UFC. Interesting. versus funaki big big fucking difference in grappling oh you know what i mean big difference Japanese stores and we were seeing in Japan or anywhere else in the

29:02 The Japanese know that. ground for I don't know 30 seconds it's it's limited it's not that much time so when you It's got to you got to go into it. where you could just, jiu-jitsu is just judo it's that's um you got to think about it you got to really break it down like all these people that highlight it on in each art they're all like super super important

32:22 It's wrestling with leg kick defense. It's wrestling with submission holds. striking. It's wrestling with leg kick defense. People are just going to be taking martial arts. They don't. but the big difference between guys punching each other and shit. jujitsu is uh it's i mean opening up a jujitsu school like in in in society today is like one bunch of different,

34:43 And you go, Yeah. Did you see that video? They're about 160 Those knees He's got good cardio, too, for a giant fucking dude. They're beating the fuck out of each other. Too many videos on Instagram where dudes are getting lit up. light someone up or like three dudes. And then hopefully one dude will start running. Yeah. dipping oh the right hand's coming in you know like there's a there's you have to know certain

38:58 Let them swing. How long you got? You just wanted to hit me. People think that they can do that to people. and you fuck up. He got in some crazy street fight after one of his kickboxing fights recently. This place of doom where you're exhausted You got to figure out which dude you're going to hit first. comes in right now but it's almost better to just have wrestling and boxing in a street fight you

41:21 It's true. And I threw punches in Taekwondo, And when I started kickboxing, It's got, And you can kick to the head and you can kick to the body and you can't kick to the legs. they get punched in the face and I can't kick them. Cause I went from being someone who i weird that the heads of the Taekwondo Association, Western boxing to this shit, you know what I mean?

44:14 Because there is a difference. which is like a, if you don't know what we're talking about, were just one it was one giant knot it wasn't it wasn't like my hand looks like with two distinct Oh, yeah. Maybe that's a fake rumor, too. Think about all these little parts. It's not for Hulk smash. Oh, my God. And Bo for boxing. A little bit of Wing Chun, a little bit of side kicking.

47:23 That's right. So strange watching these old, old old fights look how big fucking bart right so really it probably all started not only is Brazil responsible I mean, what year was the- Are you kidding me? What is this? They were already doing it before 1920? These two people don't meet. And then what country did he go to? Did he go to Norway or did he go to Germany?

50:38 Or maybe. They immediately started having fights. It had to have been influenced by the initial learning of Brazilian jiu-jitsu from three years ago. remember yep and those days it was everything was like it was like it had to be probably how like Was anybody doing that before wikipedia that in 1879 ulysses s grant former president at the time visited Japan and while in Tokyo attended a Jiu Jitsu presentation whoa

52:39 one of the former presidents studied Judo It was a way to make money. So in catch wrestling, it's similar. Or an Americana. and it has a lot of wonderful things, for sure, get it it existed but i'm talking about um a sport where you're allowed to work from the guard with you've got to have, you know, a super hard guard to pass, you know, and that changes everything.

55:36 So that's why you'd have to fake it. The grave digger, the undertaker. to do it every night well yes that's what i'm saying no no no no that no, no. That's what I'm saying. They want to make it more entertaining. Maybe they went out once every six months. You're just not going to see it. Well, when you watch someone who's a really good guard expert on their back, and you watch

57:42 That was the longest match hoist had been in and was also really close and they were talking about like how um if you looked at it on paper It just does. But that's just like movement and sticking and hitting him with small shots. I think if someone really wins a decision, they really win a decision. And in just a plain old striking match Woodley was the one who

1:00:35 That shit doesn't make any sense. Already got a title shot. It's really which is going to be, of course, a battle, but You ever see how much bigger he is than Woodley? Yeah, 72 inches. He is clearly taller. i don't know but look it's gonna be hard to do anything that woodley man submitting with Till. I mean, he knows jiu-jitsu and lived there for a while.

1:03:03 trash talking from Connor. I'm over here. October 6th, I'm going to fight, and that's it. If you want me, I want to fight. Do that in his accent, though. I wish I could. What does that mean? Yeah, it's a lot of likes. And they said, Connor, is this good? And he's on the card anyway, and the undercard against Pettis, right? Yeah. And they let Al Iaquinta do it. Paul Felder wasn't ranked high enough, which is crazy. Yeah.

1:05:19 He looked like he's back. It's amazing how quick he came back from that surgery. No more drinking. You know what I mean? Well, when something like that happens, you realize, whoa, one of these that's really this catastrophic could be the end of my career. Well, what are we at now? Yeah. That's going to be insane. Sakuraba Show. attacking each other all at once. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I was watching that video, the Russian guy. attacking each other all at once. No, no, no, no, no

1:07:39 and you know the winner of these two teams fights the winner of these two teams, fights the winner of these two teams, and then they're in the finals. So it's five on five, 950 pound weight limit. And then we had Gio, PJ, and Boogie made up the rest of the team. knowing your opponent's order so you you just line them up however you want and then boom they just

1:09:07 That's ridiculous. Is Ishii the gold medalist? And plus they had Joao Assis, which is a big ass Brazilian. Oh my God. And Ishii. And then they had three had three other guys right so we had to go against them first, but but And Sakuraba had this giant black guy on his team. while we're in the locker room going holy shit who's gonna go against this dude he's probably

1:11:55 tear through that team. He's so much If there's not a submission, it's submission only. So dangerous. Ghana. Ghana. And he trains over in Ghana as as well no no he lives in japan he trains with uh Do they fight already? Like, you're not fighting a guy fingers in the air no one knows is it coming out on the camera? Yeah. Yes, we get it. So, but if you tie, let's say you're in a matchup and you tie, both you guys are out.

1:14:01 Judo Olympic, Kimura of Hell. Submission only, and how much time do you have? Ishii wasn't able to tap him, which is incredible when you really think about how much bigger he is. Both these guys, they got DQ'd because there was no taps. Yeah, both of you. what the fuck? See, Gio went for a Kimura of his own and was just He's like thinking about all the damage it's doing to that elbow and that shoulder.

1:16:27 He could have cleaned out the whole team. Look. Look at that. He got the hand down on the mat. People who have never practiced Jiu-Jitsu probably wouldn't appreciate how interesting this technique is. But I mean, he gave up on it right there, though. You know what I mean? he puts Sakuraba in a and he goes against Frida yeah this is this is where he gets Boogie look boom He got him with an arm bar and right there, Gio's next now. Right here. Here it is.

1:18:38 Let this roll. I said, I looked at him. Now it's like there's three guys left each you either lose you stay Check this out. Once you have a front headlock, boom, look at this. He goes a 140-pound dude can tap out an elite, high-level that is an amazing guillotine that 140 pound my head almost exploded And if you watch it, snapped him down, with those things,

1:21:20 We won this one. craig jones they got marcine held dan got Marcin Held, Daniel Strauss. Craig Jones. That's fucking... Everyone's starting their own, Eclipse summit meeting he was in the first one Yeah, I guess Josh Barnett's going to be in this one. He had that whole USADA thing where they flagged him for, what is it, a tainted supplement? career, like Josh is still an elite grappler.

1:23:52 Scarf hold choke? The Dean Lister one is, both of them are incredibly impressive, but I couldn't get out, man. I thought it was a shameless pop-up. The way he moves, the way he sets things up, the strategies. Well, Zabit was supposed to be fighting Yair Rodriguez, She's a beast. is size I never understood that. No. bet 100 where if you if you bet now

1:27:11 show. But the this is the favorite for the fight. It's just a betting favorite. if they hired me as a consultant i'd I really do not know. They could flip it or something like that. And it's an awful kick. tap from it. Darren Till, to the knee has become a big kick and till's really good at it i think that's going to be a He does a lot of that. He was working with different people all over the country, but he didn't have a main head coach.

1:31:10 Wonderboy landed more shots, but Tyron hurt him way more. How did the Kelvin Gastelum fight go with Woodley? Look at the Robbie Lawler fight is a good example. establish his distance, and start using those kicks, Look, man, he's a stud wrestler. step in elbow where I was like, Jesus, the speed of it, man. It's like the, the smoothness of his but he also is really good at moving his head back he's also really used to high level sparring and

1:34:01 Boom to the body. He's a talented guy. That's a real That's hilarious. Yeah, I watched his fight. more. There's bing bing. He hits him with that left Does he remind you of Conor a little bit, the way he kind of stands? him but you know vinnie um vinnie was one of the ones who told me about him like a long time ago Like you have no idea where you're dealing with.

1:36:31 I don't know. But I think that even 155 hurts him. And BJ, too. He's going to fight Ryan Hall. He pulls guard a lot too. Remember, he opened up that Watching him get 360 roundhouse kicked in the head, That would have been crazy. He just constantly, consistently, at a high frequency he just keeps throwing them yeah to match his unbelievable kicking game, holy shit.

1:39:59 And he said, what I got to get back to doing is fighting. You think about his Benson Henderson fight, I think that's an interesting combination. there's so much he could tap you with You know, if he came out and just said, whatever happens, we're always looking for the Darcy. way to go on the ground. Is that on the same card? It's only a month away.

1:42:13 He fights in the main event. That Volkov guy might be the dark horse. That one I'm like, huh but to do that in mma with the gloves gloves on is like unheard of. Unbelievable. If fighters put the time in, all submissions are possible. But he does it multiple times. There's a lot of them. E-Z-E-I-K-E-L. What's the guy's name? out a way to do something that

1:45:12 That is so crazy. He thought he had this one in the bag. It's interesting how many people that we're seeing right now from Russia, Whew. Look at him there. stop that takedown, does he Johnson? Yeah. Is his takedown defense better than Edson Barboza? Dylan is a, I think he wrestled in high school. I don't believe he's a UFC fighter. But I know that there's some talk about him bringing in some super high-level wrestler.

1:48:57 Because if he does, there's a lot of people that are fucked. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. whether Conor's going to be able to stay on the outside long enough, just a couple of times, just enough to put a little bit of doubt, get a little bit of that on the ground you think that'll be the biggest pay-per-view ever it's gonna be huge it's gonna You see it if you follow UFC pages.

1:51:27 I can't imagine someone getting injured. Either Tony versus Khabib, Tony versus Conor, or Conor versus Khabib. Always walking forward and walking people down. I don't know if the Lando Venata fight is totally fair because I you know I'm not making excuses, but that's what happened. I think in moments in his fights, he's just brilliant. I mean, he just looks fantastic.

1:53:31 He's super athletic. And that not being afraid to scrap makes him dangerous but also makes him vulnerable, Strength and conditioning coaches. That guy was – he – if you watch the preparation videos for TJ getting ready for Cody Dillashaw, But that kind of crazy plyometric training, all this explosive shit that they're doing, Like you only have six weeks.

1:55:36 when he gets ahold of guys and you see that style, weightlifting belt and you put your feet in your ankles and you start doing it on that. But he hasn't come to Tony's camp. Yeah. You thinking about putting some gymnastics equipment up? I don't know if I could do that. So I rotate my arms with the rings as I'm doing chin-ups. i haven't done a sauna thing in a while. Anytime you want some, come by. We'll have some fun conversations in the sauna.

1:58:22 Now that my shoulders, I think my shoulder could hang with yoga right now. You don't go too early, do you? Oh, no, no, no. you know, You see them headbanging? demons yeah i get demons out uh we should get out of here anything else anything else going on Well, anyways, September 29th is 16-man combat jiu-jitsu. Oh, yeah. also one of the best 10th planet guys coming up

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