Joe Rogan Experience #10048 — Henry Cejudo & Eric Albarracin Transcript

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0:00 Three. Henry's coach. competitor you you live for these moments you live you live for these fulfillments you know Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, it's just a subjective argument subjective argument i mean who knows who's right but obviously you beat without a doubt one of the an amazing turnaround between getting stopped in the first round and then coming back and and

3:29 Went out to Singapore, went out to Thailand, went out to the Netherlands, like i really did and even after the first time jo Joe, when he beat me, I still, when he asked me, he's like, Henry, you know, like, I was like, guys, I don't know, but I still know that I could beat him. even after he stopped you in the first round? But when you fought him for the first time,

5:42 was gone because of the sport you know take that crazy mask Olympic gold medalist is the top of the mountain. truly don't know I think I was uh I think I probably began kind of falling out of love with it. And I remember there was, to me, there was only two tournaments that I really wanted to win. And that was, that was the Olympic trials and eventually the Olympic Games. And, and somehow like, because I'm correlating this with the, with the fight with Demetrius Johnson.

7:23 You know, it's interesting. I think you can talk a lot about desire too, having the genetics only get you so far yeah but everybody at the olympics that but it was it was to me the motivator was like man i don't want to feel that pain of losing i remember before the fight i remember i remember i saw my corner man like kind of before i fought And then pretty much there's six hours later, right before we walk on, they start playing my song.

10:36 My whole philosophy and the key to this victory was the composure part. Explain to someone who's never experienced that before, what is that pain like? The spirit is that you've watched somebody become a world champion. And I had to kind of pick up my pieces to kind of start healing myself like mentally and i feel like and if you But the thing is, there's a lot of factors involved in that loss.

12:51 He just wasn't the same guy. if you want to really get up to 200 pounds We got to gain all this weight because we're lifting weights all the time. don't always cut weight the right way either neither do uh mma fighters particularly back in Just one shin to the back of your leg. Really interesting. Yeah. boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, boing,

15:50 You got to be up here. Now, what kind of mind training do you do? Like reading biographies? All of a sudden, I became a 10. There's beef behind that. Oh, what date was that? Anaheim? Yeah, there's been talks, but it's been, you know, I don't think Ali, my manager, has really truly like actually sat down and talked with the UFC. And they do a fantastic job. They have real high level fighters. Ben Askren was their champion.

19:47 Exactly. I think he's... And I've always told people, I said, hey, dude, maybe the best in the world is on the UFC, man. I mean, the dude is a bad matchup for anybody, Joe. And he just dominated them. It's the most important skill for MMA is wrestling. bad fight for him would be someone that can figure out how to keep it standing like jay heron gave

22:53 who's a very dangerous striker he wouldn't he just wouldn't let people take him down yeah pettis was talking about it you know That's five UFC belts if he came into the UFC and won the belt, his teammates. 10 pounds every every spot 35 45 55 65 75 like move 70 to 75 like when the ufc had a light He's a beast. especially after Tyron just smashed him.

25:16 really dangerous even against Amazing striking skills. So, you know. Man, if you're able to take out two strikers Floyd Mayweather what? I mean, Conor is a striker. There's levels. Like, Koreshkov and Lima are two great examples. dude with a spinning back kick and literally Is that in Ben Askren just dominated him. Lima crushes people man What is this?

29:09 Askren Lima either. There it is. Oh, yeah. No, he's struggling to make that weight. Yeah. I'm surprised but I mean I think as soon as you get the champ... Tyron. They get yanked off you. That one bothered me. Khabib, right? And then Khabib definitely got yanked off the card once with the weight cut. Because I know you fought at 35 for a while when you were struggling to make flyweight.

33:12 I think my whole philosophy at first when I got into MMA was kind of like, even though you're putting it through an extraordinary amount of stress we would make weight like every week sometimes. weeks i had a tournament you know i had george lockhart on and he was explaining to me that a Now you're a pretty muscular guy for a flyweight, I just, you know, a lot of it, too, you, because you fight three times a year, like you're not always honest with your diet either.

35:50 A lot of it's based on kind of, well, my diet is just according to kind of like my training schedule. Do you know? might just change my whole philosophy. We're talking about the whole way because how I maybe about three months in advance kind of like a preparation and uh to leading to the camp and trying to break your body down no no it could because it's all it's all a learning phase at

38:55 People don't know. Kareem and all these guys and we tried to force it for him to get back in time and I have video I think it was a, it ended up being something with a sprained ligament. So it was like NeuroStim, and they have about 1,000 programs on it, i said no no no let's try this you gotta try it he did it twice, two sessions a day for 10 days. And he went back and he fought.

41:21 And that's how it started. to wrap it very well. Do you remember when Uriah Faber fought Mike Brown? That's how tough that There's like a 30-second delay. gonna have to take your spot because there's not not another microphone you could captain america Hey, man, that helps. And then I'm a neurophysiologist as well. Where are you guys at? It's like you want to be like Daniel Cormier.

44:25 your autonomics, kind of coordinate things like neuromuscular Are you getting it? It's a home test kit. And what is measuring all these things? that does heart rate variability, so time and frequency domain analysis, and it does DC brain when it's going to be a hard day, when it's going to be an easy day. Correct. Yeah. And that's Wow. back there he's translating for the deaf people so what do you do a baseline on this before you

47:51 In a sport like MMA, we also sometimes have the advantage of looking at your opponent But when you're talking about gut health and recovery, managing the hormones associated with exercise, an eight week plan. You have to check every single day. This is how you stay very dynamic All right, this is exactly what you have to replace following. So we just went the route of going GMP certified, WADA, USADA approved on everything we do.

50:12 So every day it's a little bit different, but, yeah, we ended up going with our own line. missing link that athletes aren't talking about. but good gut health is going to help with serotonin production. So recovery, that goes a long way. How long have you guys been in business for? this big ass metabolic cart or they don't know how to use it. So what I did is I purchased this

52:35 find these little tweaks for positive reinforcement. And that goes a long way with health care as well probably about eight months ago, a little bit before the first camp, and we met, talked, and Like, for both of you guys to come together like this, now I understand why you wanted to bring him on as well. anybody. He came off 12 weeks, 16 weeks maybe of not training VO2s already in the high 60s,

54:59 Yeah, incredible. And very rarely does that come down to actually utilizing weights. So you'd hold certain positions of using weights we use air pressure basically it. It's very smooth, very low risk of injury. And they live in this torsional plane. So you do a lot of transverse So this is kind of our general gym concept that we're building right now is the gym of the future may not need weights.

57:31 we're testing right now. This does velocity. So I could stand in any position. I could do a push So you stop that. I mean, very rarely we'll throw like, you know, Indian clubs and things like that in You've got to be able to absorb force just like you put it out. So it's doing my heart rate, heart rate variability, which is actually clinical grade.

59:33 So one thing we really talk about is not building muscle on top of dysfunction. We have to get your out of L.A., to develop this thing right now. You'd want an API connectivity, put it up in the cloud, Like, will it be able to track a double leg takedown or a roundhouse kick or anything like that? And then this is going to unlock telehealth and teletraining.

1:01:50 one individual opponent that they're going to face and then all the strength and conditioning And technology doesn't – there's no need for it anymore. Thank you. but for Henry to put the faith into us, We worked extra hard, essentially put our entire company on hold for eight weeks to go help him out. So you can come in based on your sport, your goal, whatever it may be.

1:04:23 put it into recommendations, and then scale that. risk of injury, high yield return, efficient. That's what everyone's looking for. And that's, But you have to figure out where you're starting from, where you want to be. So little pieces of just about everything and be able to, you know, do the consulting either online or, you know, through, through the application? I mean,

1:06:46 Because, frankly, if we just went the diagnostic gym of the future route, it could be 500, 600 square feet, low overhead facilities that are just really efficient, just putting people out, collecting data left and right. like a hundred percent i'm gonna do everything according to even you know even if even if i don't How come you're not doing this?

1:08:19 like things of that matter, Like the day that I wake up, the day that I train, composition come around and started to feel his power. And everyone kind of bought into the my back would literally go i was just kicking i'll throw one kick and they had to pull me out because that's what makes a champion. When we're out there training, we're breaking our body down.

1:11:31 according to when i would go to sleep because at times you know how you train late and sometimes Like, to us, it's like, hey, dude, we have to peak today. One technology while we're on the sleep thing, one that we're utilizing for Henry, just a little light microcurrent here to your temporal lobes, and then ideally right before bed every single night.

1:13:20 did the whole presentation with, in Moscow. And everybody was just kind of just and everybody was kind of just like, wow, amazing. but you're getting better results from it. They're very traditional. So people just know how to win. You see it. man the best athletes in the world i was just in budapest hungary and i saw kyle snyder and tough, just the toughest

1:16:29 to me that i think you kind of need both in some weird way your mind needs to develop this this There's the intangibles, the stuff that every mma fighter is because we've all been through hell yeah like in order for you to see so much shit so much hardship so so much difficulty that you know if you had science-based wrestling Like, this is how we make champions.

1:19:29 Yeah, the fine line is what's fascinating to me. But like Anderson Silva, perfect example. neck i'm just like that ain't good for us man But Mike Tyson always looked badass when he was doing it back in the day Oh, I got one back there. You put it on. You back up, and then there's resistance on the halo, so it spins. Yeah, the sensory immersion, those float tanks are pretty badass.

1:22:09 I know you're a meditation guy as well, So we're invoking cognitive decision-making processes. So we get you into yoga, meditation, that technology we're playing with right now that manipulates your biochemicals, just about everything, man. is the diaphragmatic breathing and yoga is really a calm environment to be able to focus on your Do you think there's any benefit to breathing through your nose and out through your mouth?

1:24:44 I want to talk MMA now, The website is NeuroForce1ONE.com time ever that an athlete actually stuck to the program for eight weeks that's fantastic so for Where's your contract at right now? And TJ's down for it too? I actually kind of left it off to him. That definitely makes it easier. But now that Demetrius has left the division and gone off to 1FC to get paid,

1:27:55 And I'm kind of— When Hennon Burrell didn't make weight, his first fight in the UFC, he didn't make weight. back now he's got the tent There was like a little beef with Henry. ever wanted to uh you know in my career like I've always I had I had three goals and that was just one of the greatest combat sport athletes of all time. I've spoken in front of, like, the biggest companies in the world.

1:31:25 Motivation is such a huge source of fuel for people in all walks of life. these coaches it's it's a relationship yeah you know being a coach is you're in a relationship with your athletes. Well, Eric, for a guy like you, you get across a guy like Henry, you hit the gold mine. There's so much, so many different things that make someone a great fighter that wind up fucking them up when they actually go to compete though the recklessness impulsiveness that actually makes them good

1:34:05 and and as gifted as you want you'll you'll never make it yeah and then we see those all the time And then you, It's something that you don't allow damage to damage you, It's the pressure that people feel, the reason why title fight, and he's switching Let's do it. Yeah. right yeah i mean the greatest championship defense streak in the history of the sport

1:36:37 That was the craziest shit of all time. Obviously, we scouted Demetrius Johnson, You could hear him say, you can try to take him down if you want. Yeah, wrestling Hall of Fame. that So he gave me that idea. And I took that and I put it in this book. and uh and purpose and this is what i said to him right here and the fifth and the fifth day to show

1:39:34 Hurt him on the ground. But this time going into the fifth round against DJ, We're like, damn, this is as close as it gets. lighter than demetrius people fyi and he kept on kept on saying, he said it twice, he's so big, he's so strong. yeah but there's also strength i mean there's some creepy strength that wrestlers have yeah That'd be huge. like lightning speed huh yeah it was it was a it was the craziest thing that's probably ever

1:42:31 I, But it's, I got invited to this event with, I had a couple glasses. And I remember right before I went to bed, I checked out through the window, and I checked out at the lobby. That's how tired I was. Like, thinking I'm dreaming. i'm i'm kind of you know trying to put it out and it's crazy how i can see how people could catch Fuck. I jump over the second fence, and then the third fence it was uh it was a very like a flimsy uh kind of fence and i remember as i as i jumped

1:46:49 So I see the cop car and I go up to the cop car. I already smelled like a marshmallow. No, yeah, 50 people died. and next you know you're walking into the biggest fire in history. And then he kind of called me out on it. Thanks for doing this, man. We definitely did. Bye, everybody.