Joe Rogan Experience #10054 — Din Thomas Transcript

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0:00 And four, three, two, one. Some folks go blowtorch. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be that smart. Why not? I think that's a good move. Yeah. I like that. You know, I want to be like Elon Musk. You know what I'm saying? I think his head is like a runaway train. I mean, I see that, too. Really? Well, you need those to survive in life. Because you ain't going to make money sitting at home listening to music.

2:19 Oh, you think so? Yeah, we have fun. Yeah. It looks like it's a good time yeah silly nah yeah well you know me they're so fun who do you have on that card? He was an NFL player did some does he talk about it And I just know the experiences I've had with him have all been positive. It's fucking hard, right? Maybe he lost his fucking mind. worse for you but i feel like football's worse oh man them guys head to head all day long it's way

5:47 Yeah. Even like the hardest kick. Or like wheel kick, like when Edson Barboza wheel kicks people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When he did Terry Adam. in the neck i mean that's probably as bad yeah that's a bad life yeah but like yeah or like Does he? Because he was with Mark Henry, right? Yeah, that bond. in terms of fighting I mean just You motherfucker. Yeah, maybe just trying to figure it out.

8:11 It was a big down. really, for everybody to say, wrestling and that motherfucker wrestles better than anybody in that division yeah i mean but A different level of toughness. self-defense of experience the room is always rough. smoke for 30, some basic jiu-jitsu you got a champ you go all your high school years, And then you fight MMA, against somebody who wrestled.

11:18 It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. to be a striker but i'd be like dude what are you doing i think he liked it too and i think Something changed with that guy. Like, he was smashing people. Yeah. It's like their shoulders are fucked up or something. Yeah. bop! It's like he doesn't It's like you remember how great he was. I mean, if you look at some of the knockouts that he suffered against, like,

15:34 while i mean and he had a you know you got to respect his career because he's done a lot and And he'd come in the gym and wouldn't say nothing to nobody. Yeah, maybe a little more than that. That's the life of a fucking rambling fighter. In what way? Get a job. Right? think that you could win the title right like every fighter wants to think that they can one day

18:01 fighters have to also be real with themselves too, is are you doing But if you're trying to be a fan favorite, like if you're a guy who just wants to bang he just he don't move his head enough yeah you know and nate i mean nate doesn't either but I want to see him make money while he can, too. He's got some hip issue, and then he pulled out of that fight.

19:47 I don't know. That would have been crazy trash. Last time he fought was Anderson Silva. Well, I don't know if it's he doesn't have it anymore because we haven't seen him not have it. He fought well against Anderson, and Anderson's a 185-pounder. Endurance, yeah. So they can fight longer. they're not like the best athletes so they rely on skill and just endurance endurance yeah so

21:33 Fuck yeah. Conor McGregor, no disrespect to Eddie Alvarez, How do you think Nate got such that star power? are like that. Here's what's You know, when he took Ray Borg and suplexed him and caught him with an armbar on the way down, Puts on shows. Jon Jones fights a better caliber of competition because the 205-pound weight class, at least at one point in time, had a deeper talent pool.

23:45 Piss him off Hey how you doing buddy Think about that What he did to Little Nog. Yeah. You know, it's unfortunate. he's like i'm an athlete he goes i'm just really good at this yeah like how the fuck are you not we just saw him, And the fight world he's trying to perform his art. Well, you have to fight the smart way. Well, just Gray Maynard was prepared and he shrugged them off.

26:13 Yep. Yeah, Mike Perry. to be honest with you. Just that he had a little, Well, he's still in the hunt. Even though he got holes, he got power. Not just power. He takes it well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got the one thing that you need in order to cover up holes, and that's power. Yeah, that's power. You know what I'm saying? Like, even though he got holes, he got power.

27:12 Like, his mind. You know what I'm saying? it comes to offense man just punch a motherfucker in the face just punch him in the fucking face along the way no it was it wasn't a seamless pro i mean it was seamless as as it could be it was That don't know shit And then you like Okay Do you think maybe it's where he trains? They're more attentive to their fighters.

30:50 He might just need a few better guys to give him some different looks but i think the coaching staff or his coach staff is fine i've worked with someone before because latif used to come to the What's the reason for that? some comedy managers that have like a hundred clients and they just like go out there figure it out yeah and if you're good and we're gonna take

32:21 fighters but we also have a lot of coaches so So we can give Amanda Nunez 100%. Dude, that chick is a savage. See, people are like, I don't think they gave her no credit. Yeah. I think Raquel Pennington was one of those girls, like, you see her first fight with Like, ah! And when Amanda fucked her up, I was like, good Lord. Her hormones were all fucked up.

34:25 me a thyroid condition oh my god yeah she went to all sorts of serious fucking traumatic brain And the force behind it. Yeah. Really? You can't just put Amanda and go, all right, spar. So for her, what was the missing ingredient Oh, you need to come in. I think that has a big part of it. I know. She's the best. She is. No She fucks up everybody. I know.

37:18 But I think that the more confident Amanda gets, she just walks Valentina down and beats her up. I mean, if you look at what she did, she shut Jacek down, problem yeah now you're not that good then yeah you should never allow like seven pounds to dictate just like incredibly antiquated yeah the weight classes yeah like this is i mean this stuff was

39:37 If you're listening and you're a judge and you're great, thank you. They can't. The only argument against it is that a guy would coast. That's terrible. They might just be guessing. What is a Kimura? Oh my god The win bonus is 50% in most cases. Yeah. You got to win this because of the win bonus. Unless it's obvious. Maybe he did. You're not going to get this.

43:06 Yeah. If you finish, you get paid what you get paid. Yeah. You just told me that story. what people and i want to get like you know just experts like get a bunch of fighters to it went. oh yeah i went in fact i left to get something to drink because i was like he won that scoggins to train with, his name was Larry Jones, and Larry was, he was tall, he was like 6'2",

46:12 And Robin Black, see if you can find this. And then goes to the guy's face. that can strike. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's a jujitsu guy too? their knee is low and they're kicking up he's his knee goes high his knee goes like when he he Yeah, man. The distance he covers. Wonder Boy has an interesting way of doing it. The Johnny Hendricks fight

49:13 Well, I'll tell you, you couldn't do karate? Yeah. watch he's not muay thai no he's very elusive and then but when he gets in boxing range he put Throw you to the ground. But, yeah, Ben is my homeboy, man. But, you know, Ben has been instrumental in Tyron Woodley's camps. You know, like, he's not going to, you know, no disrespect to George Grigel. Yeah.

51:53 Yeah. Is it on Brooklyn? I don't know if that's been solidified. where Ben fits in yeah Wars that guy went through. Yeah. lips oh yeah my god yeah and he didn't give a fuck no stitch it up no like yeah he's he's a Thank you. the military stays yeah bring them back in like 10 minutes later It's not necessary. on. He had to be in a room. He said that the

55:06 And just, boom, sent his head back. There we go. Keep that card together. I know. Gotta love it. That is a bombs away card. He's like, let's keep this ball rolling. And, you know, they're crazy. Man, I should have saw the signs. But that's also why he's so good. Yeah. Yeah. need to be controlled what is that, when we were doing commentary. Some people fight better when they're the underdog.

58:53 well she was this favorite against raquel pennington she was a favorite against raquel I don't think so. I mean, it was. ground at will and i'm sure she's tightened up a lot of that but nah she doesn't she's too slow And I don't think Megan Anderson is going to have enough speed to deal with Amanda. Karolina? It was right up there. She's like a bowling ball on the end of a rope.

1:02:04 A lot of fighters are like know they can have kind of aggressive the distance to get a hold of you when she gets you on the ground she's armbar on you I felt like you know ronda getting excited about this fight and thinking I'm going to go out there. i forget i'm paraphrasing but he's basically said i don't know who she is but she's a victim I mean, Amanda just put it on her on and i was saying to them afterwards i goes

1:05:15 And I sent you the breakdown. I said, this is going to be easy. Well, he was saying, I don't know, he thought that i was saying that holly home that ron was going Amanda blasts people. You're like, God. There's a million things going on. honest and people who have behind her orchestrating but that's I mean, one of the things that Greg Jackson said when they prepared her for Holly Holm,

1:08:15 And then, boom, there's that head kick. Champions don't fight like that, right? But. And there's probably very few people that can pull You can't just be grabbing and clenching because that shit doesn't work on everybody. I mean, Ronda just gutted it out and got out of it it she's such a great grappler and her neck is so goddamn strong yeah You headlock someone and their legs go around.

1:10:24 But it's like, ooh. Eventually, it was going to catch up. Yes. Eventually, it people flipping to the ground. And it worked on almost everybody. But it's like, ooh. He'll ankle pick you. is just like unstoppable ridiculous speed i grabbed him once just joking around backstage how did he win he won by taking him down yeah he didn't win by dominating him right it's not like

1:12:11 you might not know but he beat Horiguchi This guy but this guy's got speed coaching Horiguchi. I've worked with him a little bit, but I'm not like his main guy If they ever fight. I was like, this guy with that style, that karate style, but also can wrestle. so damn hard-headed yeah you have to be right yeah you have crazy beliefs yeah yeah you do you got you have to

1:14:09 Tell everybody else to fuck off. That's what happened to me. I remember my girlfriend imagine if I married that girl He pissed me off. Damn. i taught myself how to fight that's why i'm here today wow yeah and during the weekends uh-huh no In the backyard Is that really where that came from? That's a great move That was Tony's shit Yeah I incorporate that in one of my systems man i love that movie

1:16:29 Yeah. Like, you with a girl at 17 for two years, that's half your damn life. Somebody breaks up with you, like, ah, whatever. you also you learn why you were annoying to her you know like there's some stupid shit that you're i try to pretend that i'm like a coach and i'm looking at myself honestly i was like all right And that's one of the reasons why I think meditation is so important.

1:18:37 So what I do is I'll start with some self-talk first just to get me going. I'm doing, you know, just every day strive to be better. I heard you're funny. Yeah. I got this. I've tried a bunch of different styles of meditation, but the one that I like the best, especially in the tank, is breathing. No, I've never done that. I'll show it to you afterwards.

1:20:31 I set him up with it. was like a super genius who was, he was going through his career during this psychedelic You feel the table. Right. The lights in this room are a distraction. You're just floating because there's so much salt. you center, because you kind of wiggle around So then when I'm in the tank, then I concentrate on my breathing. up soon and you can't let those right right you just gotta think of the breathing in through the

1:23:56 But when you have the absence, yeah did i sing like a rock do you i barely good. Yeah. Did I sink like a rock? Do you? I barely can tread water. Oh, yeah. When you see the whole setup back there, you realize there's so much salt in it that it has to constantly be recycled and move through otherwise it'll crystallize and you get these That's giant for just loosening your muscles and relaxing.

1:26:05 Yeah. I mean, it's the best gym on the planet. And all what Dan Lambert has done. in his house he had a gym and he used to have all the dudes come over back in the day more Like when Amanda won But what he's done is amazing Like, yeah, you're right. From, like like general population. Right, right. oh, man, we need to stay on the side so we can. Yeah. So, like classes for little kids classes for little kids you know regular jujitsu and watching guys

1:28:52 Fucking incredible facility, man. Look at that place. They have a whole strength and conditioning set up down there, too, right? But I think we do better with guys who come and just do camp. Right, right. Yeah. more of a challenge than colby yeah because cordial but now you know i'm saying, I don't even talk to him. You know? He still won the fights.

1:31:56 He talked a lot and I'm happy for him. And I think he said no. He's so honest. Like, Tyron's mad. He might be the fastest, hardest-hitting 170-pounder that's ever lived. Darren Till's a motherfucker on the feet. outside he'll hang around the outside come on yeah i know you want to do this make a mistake yeah make a Yeah, you get wheel kicked in the head.

1:34:21 And he's going to hit you with them little pity pats and tips and taps because he's trying to tag you and touch you before the big ones come in. Yeah. How so? You don't go and listen to the shit I've talked about Tyron. I think if he's not the greatest welterweight of all Matt Hughes was the first high level wrestler, tough as shit, strong as a goddamn gorilla, who embraced submissions.

1:36:16 He figured out how to beat everybody, I would have loved to see he didn't like motherfucker still got it. you know, epic super fight, What do you think about George and Ben? I like that The problem like with MMA but at least everybody's under the roof right like before it was like when fedor was over in pride I think he could have been UFC champion.

1:38:41 fuck people up man and And also could catch submissions Suplexes him Uh huh Yeah. I'm just thinking, yeah. He had the full package. a human being take yeah munson took some beatings too man and he was getting kicked in like he broke his femur he was from from leg kicks But he's in between like Russia, England, and South Florida. Yeah. I talked to some Brazilian jiu-jitsu guys, and I was like, is that legit?

1:41:52 But he was just squeezing with his sweaty armpit. too I was like you're like like he's like really yeah athletic in his life. Meanwhile. Ah. a lot of good guys in the gym. They do it right. Wow, South Florida. at the time but it has to work because i mean i don't know maybe everybody does it so it has to And TJ, I believe TJ said that that's not even,

1:44:53 Yeah, I don't know, man. no the guy's name is calavita right sam yeah and he's apparently i've never worked with the guy or Plyometrics, box jumps, medicine ball work, that kind of shit. mark muñoz style like rain gym so t-r-e-i-n yeah yeah and um they they put together a gym I think he's doing it because it's a challenge. He's so lean. He looks like that now.

1:48:20 or is it just uh i think calavita works with them on that as well it works with them with the Yeah. He's got a Tito head. Well, the Wilson Hayes fight. because you can always just adjust That is next week. That's it. It's that. No, I know you. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah, maybe a year ago. can't be good at jujitsu if you don't have endurance from rolling. Right. You got to roll.

1:51:19 You got to love it. that shit worked a professional athlete you don't even write Having a good mind and then having discipline. Yeah, and he's cool too, man. He responds to my texts and shit like that. You look forward to seeing him succeed. Yeah. How do you get away with that? that seems weird. Let them out. None of it? So, I mean, i do more improv shit you know masser always

1:54:31 But that's why I didn't really dig into stand-up as much. it and get to the next level right did you have to fucking go through that process well this you really fucking banged up and you have to be able to suffer almost every day in order to get yourself legs thumped with shins slamming into the meat of your leg where everything goes numb Yeah, but when you stop doing it, you can't go back. go back right i mean do you spar around a little bit no oh yeah no i

1:57:28 Do you just drink conditioning or nothing? I ain't running with your ass This motherfucker made me run 35 You know his rap career Hustling guy I've ever met Do you have one now? Oh, wow. So like I do one now with TJ DeSantis called The Beatdown. People get bored with you. Then that comes through people's ears. and scared before all these different things?

2:00:01 How do I figure this out? Do you just keep going and keep doing it? well i'm curious i'm like i don't want to just talk i want to i want to i want to hear people between 21 and 22. incredibly corrupt like the the scoring was terrible, especially if you fought a Korean. I was seeing guys that were slurring just a little bit I mean, I hate it, man. It's not really happening.

2:03:05 orbital bone and and for the next you know three or four months you know this guy's I'm pretty honest with them. And they just need somebody else to say it. And I'm more willing to tell them i always try to tell them but sometimes if they don't want to do it then i can't really be a part of it like when Oh, man. Yeah, when they had the net in the bottom of the ropes.

2:05:07 Yeah, he shouldn't be fighting at 50. And I think Jason Perillo is a fantastic coach. His timing, his movement, just looked, his balance looked off. was no there was no escape clause there was no there was no way there Right. It's rough. Speed. coming to kill you. Yep. Yeah. When you see him now at 50 fighting the way he fought against Tito, I'm not him.

2:09:09 Which doesn't help. I know, man, but... Florida? filming my netflix special and so we have these yonder bags yonder is a cell phone bag that they use where you have to put your cell phone It was like no one sat down the whole show. You got to go, hey, here's the show. People in Miami, they don't have no football team. Yep. Miami is the place to be.

2:11:44 Yeah, you're right. There's some great restaurants in Miami. Yeah. Fantastic Cuban food. Yeah, Cuban food. Yeah, you're right. You ever watch those documentaries on cocaine, the Cocaine Cowboys documentaries? They say that at one point in time, I don't know if it's still the case, Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2. They were all deeply involved Garbage bags filled with cash.

2:13:43 crazy easy until i watched those documentaries. It's on Netflix, right? murderer just a straight killer hired all these savages. Just gun people down. She's dead. Yeah. I got to see this. but I didn't know it was like- Or maybe not yet No she was disgusting Run by a woman It was all the Blanco 2017 Pull up a picture of her. See? Nope. And nobody knew how to get out.

2:17:13 And then everybody, I think, probably just says, ah, next year. He said every day just blown up heads, bullet holes, cocaine godmother review. Is it? Come on, man. She played that lady the right way. Anything on a Lifetime is a D or a F at least. Yeah. I noticed that. My apologies. You have some stars. She was so hot when she was young. Look at that.

2:20:00 Whitewash. it i don't even say yeah i know it's like good for you man good for you i'm more friends than that. Burt Kreischer just deleted his shit. I go in every now and then, but the way I describe it, it's always like peering into you the shit yeah there's a lot of that there's a lot of that with this guy's life yeah that's what they do Chris D'Elia?

2:22:17 Is that what it is? Yeah, Talia loves doing stand-up. he's talking shit to Logan Paul I watched him fucking D'Elia will hurt your feelings Him being silly. Bro, the names of the people and the bands playing in Coachella this year Are fucking Dumb I don't know Kid Cudi. How do you have the same name as the other guy? Who's Razor Bumps? I think that's part of

2:25:20 disrespect to any of these bands. I'm sure Yeah. There's a lot of competition, especially rappers. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry I didn't like you, but I'd fuck your boy up. I suppose. But once you get going and once like you name a guy who's who's a good comic Adam Hunter Where are you going to work? But I thought it was kind of hard to get put on, though. you're right but comedy yeah but I didn't know

2:27:51 but in the beginning comedy other ones that are good because you realize you need them. It's almost like you need, if you're in a gym, you need guys that are really good around you to push you. that are doing it need people to when they're on stage someone go sometimes I always bring really What? You have to. Like if you see like a comedy special, you'll see a bunch of comedians tweeting about how good a comedy special is

2:30:47 Fuck everybody The drug game So I don't know If they have it on the West Coast. Where are you from? was born in the same hospital. Really? And where will you live in the other time? I love Philly. People in Philly are wild. Really? I don't know about that. So they're still dealing with them fucking genes? beat the shit out of each other on the streets. That's good of the few places in the world where people still, like, on a regular basis beat the shit out of each other on the streets.

2:33:01 people so ugly? And they hit that water. like online making it in Hollywood Really? He puts these videos on. guy make he's got like 77 million subscribers so the but the only thing about that guy is he likes How much do you think the parents let him keep? he was on a disney show that my kids watch and then he decided fuck that i'd rather just be in

2:36:31 He's got one of those Lego installations, too, that some guy came in and put Legos all Dude Perfect. So they made $20 million, all five of them. Holla slash ball. Since the MySpace era has reinvented himself as a beauty mogul. What's this one? $17 million. Pootie Pie. He's a gamer. Yeah. Yeah. while he was wearing a Hitler outfit, right? putting up signs

2:38:57 I know. Is she in that list? Crazy. Nice. The whole curriculum Jiu-jitsu Getting the back, put the hooks in. Use your jujitsu to hurt people, then submit them. It's like the mentality of it is different you know i'm not i'm not because like think about it you're like if i were when you were doing jiu-jitsu right now like in order for me to pass your guard

2:41:36 And that's something, like I said, when I stopped competing, I studied, studied, studied, said what works, what doesn't work. I think Gary Tonin's gonna do very well And he can do everything Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. And I'm studying that shit now because I think there's a place for it. It's true. And, you know, they went to a draw. with a like a fucking paper towel and just wipe his oh we got everything on this towel every

2:44:22 But I like Gary Turner, and I think he's going to do wonderful over there. You know, Brandon Vera's the heavyweight champion now. Giant neck, fucking traps, jacked as fuck. Yeah. Yeah His skill level Look at that. And so he just packed on some meat. Brandon Vera highlights. Boom. like what level it is, Gi-gi-gi-gi-gi-giant. He's running things. Listen, I'm all for it because I hate, you know, I work with a lot of guys.

2:48:25 he didn't have to be a character and this is coming from probably the only character in pfl But I trained I know. Yeah. And that's in the finals. i mean even with bellator i mean the way they got eyeballs was to have like hoist gracie fight i they're not going to have many stars well it seems like what does it say 2018 one championship is doing m he's doing oh yeah yeah yeah i saw that yeah yeah nikki holtskin is doing kickboxing over

2:51:49 without these other It's so critical raises all boats. I mean, they really are. They find out And if you need to be I love that. All right, dude. I'm sitting here thinking I'll be on here for like 30 minutes. At D-I-N Thomas. All right. Beautiful. Thank you, brother. Yeah, man, holler at me. Appreciate it, man. My pleasure, man. Facebook, all of that. Everything. All right.

2:53:29 All right, folks.