Joe Rogan Experience #10066 — Michelle Waterson Transcript

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0:00 Two, one. Ooh, that was a good one. Is that better? Yeah, perfect, perfect. So what from your face. There we go. Is that better? the whole edwards yes okay yeah okay i know where that is yeah yeah so we got stationed there that one of them it's uh there's a b2 and then this is like a f-116 or something like that i don't a gi specifically well you know i think she was coming to get away but you know she wanted to

2:41 And then 12 months later, you were born. Probably around 10. And so my brother found a little karate spot at the church just across the street, And I was like, okay, I think I want to do some katas then. So you get two points to the head for kicks to the head. And so it all kind of just happened pretty strangely. me yeah and so he came to my work at hooters and i wasn't there and he was just like left me a note

7:09 I got good grades. I would imagine that someone growing up doing martial arts as long as you did, physical therapist for um like a sports team or something like that. of me because of my my karate kicks yeah it's interesting how different karate kicks are yeah i would work on the weekends and then drive up to vale and train He's like, whatever, fuck it, just do it.

10:41 And she was swinging from way back here and trying to take my head off. Yeah, that's exactly what I was like. But never in my life I thought I would be. I'm ranked 7th. I just don't understand the rankings at all. Like a bunch of journalists and accepted experts on MMA get to. I'd never want to work for another organization. That's scary. How do you explain that one?

13:13 But it just, especially for like a fighter whose life depends on the fights be a fighter she's really yeah she's cool so cool yeah she's so cool but that's a badass bitch yeah You would not want That was She hits so hard. I remember seeing highlights of it. Because she's Jorina Barge. Did you ever see that fight? In Lion Fight? I remember seeing highlights

14:59 decision but she gained a lot of fans because and you have no way out like yeah you know so that's that's brutal yeah it's a rough sport and I mean, like Joe Schilling, Kevin Ross, and there's a ton of them. it but the thing is like there's only, people only have so much time to watch things. Ah, this fight song. of fighting on there. Muay Thai, They're putting on amazing fights.

17:23 cutting. There's no weight cutting over there. So like when northcutt fought uh cosmo alexandre he fought I'm wondering if maybe he should be walking around lighter or, I don't know, You're right. I mean, he has taken guys down before. He was kind of pulling out right yeah but that's he'll be all right if you get ko'd by an elite striker who knows what kind

20:39 me just because we were in brazil too and that crowd was crazy and everybody shot up and started screaming i mean the whole thing was bad I mean, she's just trying to lift her up and dump her down. I mean, he was a goddamn science project at one point. 140 pounds haunted him his entire career watch this boom oh no yep see he tucks his head a little bit at the

23:52 And he was trained by Maurice Smith. But it also goes to show you how hard Cro Cop punches, No matter how many steroids you do Whose house was that It was a victory for technique. Absolutely. They offered Fedor a fight with Bob's size. That was a ridiculous arm bar. Yeah, that's crazy. You're doing some stuff to people that's not, your body's not supposed to have that in there, lady.

27:08 He was like, it's said in all capital letters, encouraged encouraged it not almost they basically did encourage it because they just wanted to see Well, that makes sense. You'd be like, what? a victory. You become something different. they have all sorts of uh strange things happen down below and they they start having a deeper yeah catch 22 if there ever was one yeah yeah but was an elite fighter

30:21 Yeah, good. some i feel like i should not say something right right right yeah like i'm gonna get caught mean? And I appreciate that. I appreciate that they treat me as an athlete and and all of that good stuff You can't do it. This idea that you just magically become a woman many different things i'm all for inclusiveness and i'm all for ultimate form of i mean everybody for folks who don't know what

34:12 hell is this? Where'd you get your white belt? It's no different. There's a reason why we have a man's division Shoot, takedown. You know, his neck bothered him his entire career from that one pile driver. I love what they're doing. If someone's training in Russia or Germany or wherever. Yeah, that's a very good question Right If someone's training in Russia Or Germany

36:31 That yeah Because it is If you don't think it is I can only be concerned USADA can take care of the He's getting popped? Ultimately, it's definitely not worth it because his legacy is tainted. Which is basically like an intelligence test thing with the picograms what the the the insignificant amount in terms of like the They're just way better What these guys

39:22 Just taken over the counter supplements experts and they think it's i think it's all bullshit that john's allowed to fight he should Yeah. yeah he's just he just that's his jesus christ like anderson when he was in his Like, oh, that's possible. And then I can go down the list of everybody, but I feel like it kind of like goes in cycles, you know. catches him like john maraga caught him with a good straight punch like that that's like that

44:17 Someone who's fighting, which is a weird word, right? People are like, what's that? I think that's great that there's more options out there for the fighters. You could take someone from 93 and put them into 2018. He had a lot of old boxing coaches that were like, you don't switch stance. On his timing that's what he's saying is going to be the biggest evolution or what has started to evolve in boxing

46:47 Mm-hmm. My wrestling's, you know, getting better. People are like, oh, I've got to adjust to this. And so I was always a smaller one. because then it kind of neutralizes the height difference. You know, that's the thing where a lot of people get confused. And as long as he was at a distance, he was fucking people up. But in the transition, the no-man's land between the kicking and the punching,

49:38 How much boxing are you doing now? I would say both. someone going like i gotta do this uh i gotta think yeah you know the the the those transitions Like, you never knew what he was going to do. they have an extra degree of comfort with their striking and you can get caught with stuff you I'm going to show her what's up. Oh, Jesus. I'll show this bitch what's up.

53:39 myself when i went back out there well that's that old adage you win or you learn and you Yeah. I guess it would depend. That's like when people get syphilis. crazy well back when the last time I fought at 105, when I was fighting at 105, I was probably walking around at like 25. good energy you know going at going 100 rather than going 70 and then going to do more cardio

56:55 That they've eliminated weight cutting like what do you when you fight when you get into the cage what do you think you weigh this last time i got back up to 128 get through that without breaking then mean you can go to battle right i don't know there's just Oh, that's awesome. Actually, I don't remember the last time I've seen Star Wars, but yeah. So the the the weight cut though the only problem with it is it's bad for you

59:33 Where's that coming from? Doctors are so smart. And in my head, it's like, you know, there are only a couple of things you have to do as a fighter. i just i feel like at that point it, it's not a benefit for you. you weigh it's like it's crazy like you should be it should be about skill versus skill it And then you look at MMA in the men's division and you have, you know, 155 and you have 170.

1:02:29 and just give them a place to do so. their tank to beat you yeah they have more they can hit you they can take shots better they can Well, I mean. So we do MMA grappling on Mondays. You're at Jackson Winklejohn, which is one of the best gyms on the planet Earth, some cigarettes and drink some vodka. Are they smoking cigarettes? Yes, exactly. he'll give them the go or do a trial run where they train with us for one week

1:06:32 It almost looks more dangerous. I always said that about jiu-jitsu. Everybody's ego gets in the way. Now, how much of that do you use a lot of grips? But because I am stepping into their world, And I'm just out. Because one of the things we used to see in the early days of MMA you see these gi world champions like elite level world champions My professor now, so I'll be rolling with his wife or some of his students.

1:10:00 on right here like you can't just hang out. There's moments in jiu-jitsu that are unrealistic in self-defense situations or in a fight situation. So who sets up, like, when you're in camp, when you have to do, you know, you've got a fight, it's 12 weeks from now. one private with coach jackson a week i do two privates with coach wink a week i do a private

1:11:47 So you can get something in at home. I do more strength and conditioning when often are you doing that i do strength uh i do more strength conditioning when i'm out of camp so like right now i'm doing strength and conditioning like What is that all about? There's something about that steep-ass hill, too. because it's really steep but the first three you really can't sprint up

1:14:11 as a team quite a bit on the weekends but you know coach jackson coach is this it right here It's amazing how gravity is one of the best things to work with. If you go back to when you first started fighting versus now, like your tolerance must be through the roof. They've never been knocked out. Do you do any psychological training? But could they be even better with it?

1:17:29 you know not just eight weeks but your entire you know training before that you know for me it's I talk to him about this all the time because it's like my secret sauce, right? fight in the first 10 seconds of the of the round. Sometimes it's all five rounds and it's a war and I win that way. power words is what he calls them. I'm trying to see. thought process so when i say one word it it it into an entire feeling, if that makes any sense.

1:21:28 I'm really trying to focus on something specific. I like float tank. We should, huh? The hot sauna, though, is different than a float tank because a float tank is so personal. Okay. But if you can find one and use it on a regular basis, it works great with visualization. Yeah, I'm sure. And so that's something that I've really been working hard at to you like what is that feeling like to you when you meet a young girl and you say oh my god this is me when i was 16 yeah it's amazing it really is to to know that just through my story that i've touched people's

1:26:02 not when you were 10 months old sorry when she was 10 wow you had a fight while you were breastfeeding yeah that was your I loved being pregnant, and there was a lot of memories that I had And it, you know, it ate me alive. amount of time to rebound from giving birth and then get yourself back in shape and then get But, yeah. I want to kick some butt.

1:29:35 I would go to the room and feed her and then come back. So when you say spread apart, like, what actually does happen? Well, they, I mean, I don't know, like, all the science behind it. back into sparring and this and that that um i would go dry like my milk would go dry. But I didn't. Yeah, I would imagine. Yeah. She has a really cool upbringing i i think like she's just

1:32:24 our parents' actions. And, you know, I bust my eye open to the point where you can't see it anymore and I lose my belt. Yeah, because people ask me all the time, Life isn't sunshine and rainbows all the time yeah it's I don't know, it just really depends on how my career goes, but I would say But I would like more children. might retire yeah and she's a very eccentric person i mean she's she's not motivated by money

1:36:17 I mean, you've got to go back to Carlos Newton, Matt Hughes to have a slam KO like that. I think that is just amazing. and again, we do not know where Rose's head is at, what she wants to do, Sure. This is what I want. And even the girls outside of the top ten are dangerous. So I really would like to hold off to fight the champion know she's pled her case i have three times as many fights as she does you know i've fought for

1:40:27 Yeah. Then you're in the right spot. Well, obviously, you know, you rank number it for the world. This is what I love doing. Well, that's awesome. Then you're in the right spot. me because they want to see me you that belt, and I do too. Was it April? March or April? March or April? That's right. And she throws hard, obviously. What do you think? To be able to, like, hit that single

1:43:59 second though to lose your focus and to get picked up and slammed down like that and then the fight's That's exactly what I want. Yeah. Well, good luck trying to find someone as strong as her, That's dangerous. that there are so many different ways to approach it. She's really good grappling and this and that. I thought that was really interesting.

1:48:13 Maybe that's just me thinking out loud of what maybe she might be going through, This is with your psychologist? It certainly is. Thank you.