Joe Rogan Experience #10068 — Will Harris Transcript

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0:00 And Will Harris, you're live. really awful cut a bunch of innocent people that were on the bus but they used it over and over and It's like, bro, this is worth one hundred thousand dollars. So I could not have to be doing GoFundMes and shit. Because at the time, we were like, whoa, Conor might go to jail. Because when you're building a channel or a series like that, you think, oh, this is my moment.

2:26 Pull this mic up. I didn't know. heavyweight factory you were you do all those no I wasn't doing his phone videos what happened was just an hour-long documentary um i i never knew who a khabib was or nothing like i just didn't So that was almost two years ago. manager was at jaco the the footage and glenn just said listen we need this type of work in mma like

5:26 and um yeah there it is right there but uh yeah that's how it happened and i just kept going to felt like oh if i'm gonna do a documentary i might as well be in vegas where a lot of fighters is And it's all based off reviews. I saw the gym one day, Jocko. I know the Black Zillions train there. They just went to the Final Four this year, if you know anything about basketball.

8:30 Jesus. And she literally was just like, oh, you want to come to Walmart with me? Literally, my life changed as soon as I bought that camera. university history top four rebounds all-time leader and field goal percentage all-american Yeah, as far as surgery. Yeah, George St. Pierre had that done. And it's like that's why I was telling Jamie, like, I need that

10:45 Boom. Well, you were standing on it. What's it called again? I did. Honestly, after- who the hottest athletes was. man girls gone wild doug stanhope hosted that at one point in time yeah that's funny but so i I can't remember what it was called, but I used to just call people, collect and try to get them to sign up for long distance. But I was good at it, though.

13:46 want unlimited long distance do you feel guilty a little bit but they went out they went out of He was playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Nothing stuck. You know, I had opportunities. And it just didn't pan out. Nothing stuck. I was in Australia trying to pursue. but I was addicted to like online dating back then. So obviously you need a visa to go over there.

15:52 But I'm just saying, I was just, listen, my whole point. I remember talking to her And see if I can like I'm laughing because I know people whoa yes it was crazy and then it's like a decided this i'm gonna do film for a living right i was over there um the first day i got there like Yeah I'm in Malaysia i don't know what the fuck am i doing over here in malaysia like with this lady so i ended up

19:30 I was like, damn, I must have just didn't do it good enough. your stuff is outside I'm thinking like she was like yeah this is not working out so think about that imagine talking about I just left so from there I was I stayed with Bobby for like three weeks So let me go. about I'm gonna be back and then i was just stuck Deanna Kassar. like or it's four out of five people are like one four hundred dollar emergency from being broke

23:49 So after Australia, I went to Vegas. you you ever seen like the mega bucks slots? So I wanted to sit down next to them. Wow. Oh, okay. brought you to san diego i met a guy in vegas during the night of the floyd mayweather fight And I went out there and I didn't leave for four years. Like, I just did, I just released the episode responsibility of having to do a nine to five or things like that. So it wasn't until I live in San Diego that I literally talked to the guy that I was living with and was like, bro, I don't know what I'm gonna do in my life, bro.

27:50 They was like, oh, put your coats and gloves on, kids. That was the last day I ever worked in my life. There's nothing wrong with me. he was pissed he was like bro you're always quitting jobs and he was like bro what you because back then when I had a So I have friends. Shout out to Mac Irv Mr. Organic Like I was shooting their videos Three years into it

30:19 At the time girl bought me. back in like 2011 gonna buy me that camera because I was telling see me right so we get to my apartment and my boy he anticipating it too So she gave me the laptop and I, done went to like napa valley and fucking vegas for her birthday or new New York pressure and you're like damn I can't even take you to the movies I'm like damn so for me if a girl get tired of you now they call it ghosting

33:55 about a job, but that whole summer I was just telling everybody in there, I'm finna do film. I was telling a group of guys That cried wolf shooting a lot of music videos that any videographer out there that knows this industry I think I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's only like 20, right? this girl and this one lasted a bit and I remember I used to brag to her like look at this music

36:25 And then I did The Confessions of Gay Pride. And I literally interviewed this guy in San Diego about how when Obama passed. view of the staples center things like that like they don't understand years ago i didn't have i trying to shoot a music video you trying they not knowing I need this money to just live somewhere documentary so i got some money from my guy bobby jones and um i was able to have a life i felt

39:14 now yeah okay no i have i have a great one if you know alan watts yes so i it's called the beauty Yep. I'm seeing how these guys are training. But it's also your focus. to have people talking you hear their voice while their their mouths not moving because they're banging in little rock yes yes that was on hbo right yeah banging a little like all those that's

41:48 Let's go champ. Yeah, that's one. Yeah, that's the one. I love him. Stervain. Well, basically. 10 seconds. Yeah. He didn't get up. He's the craziest fucking record in the history of boxing. He knocked out Tyson Fury, too. Well, basically. One, I would love to do a behind-the-scenes fight companion with you guys. conspiracies. Yeah, you'll get him on.

43:01 Yeah, he loved your show They catch shit that you did years ago. A lot Supplements tainted with things that have vitamin b12 and all these different things in it you get those mixed by a third party lab And I interviewed him about it. colombo oh man my favorite oh my god you know but but then you look at like frank zane frank zane There's natural freaks.

46:03 They're born with triple F tits. life these was all in the past but i remember uh dating this like older lady and she was like i'm Everyone's weird. Christians are weird. How come? So she was born May 3rd. I hate hearing that, like a grown-ass man telling his son oh jesus and i found his porn tapes me telling you all this stuff ain't poor me it's just real it's just

49:44 why i'm not in in a rush for anything because everything takes time. Yeah. introduce you to my guy ali and then i met ali filming some henzo gracie stuff for him um and when Francis was fighting Stipe and Volkan was fighting DC Did you have to observe while you were there? like we like drive down the street person with some guns I'm like all right cool I don't know

53:03 I wanted to know why women covered themselves. And I asked all those questions. in in in the in the Quran is you know the man is weak to the flesh. So they don't want their woman to be, you know, looked at by other men. So but I've seen women. I've seen some beautiful women, too, in Dagestan. Yeah. Yeah, that guy from Chechnya, the leader of Chechnya, he's like really into MMA, right?

55:46 Seminar Over there I'm not even fighting I mean, when you one of the most famous, I think he's like top 15 and the most famous athletes now. After spending time with Khabib in Dagestan, like me and his father going into the mountains After going to Dagestan and seeing how those people live and how they're cold and their values of how they live. It's sort of like how Ali was.

57:48 Like, to beat him. Khabib is not caring. Khabib don't ranked like they in the UFC like they may get cut after a couple fights like what do they have left i get the passion out of doing it because i've been there with these fighters i've at this point like as popular as the channel is but it is what what it is. You can get one now. Probably. Who knows?

1:00:52 the owner of it damn, there from them but like to sustain this like remember fight land remember the show fight land Were they? So imagine me funding this on my own if I want to go somewhere for three days. They put me like above a store. Yeah, I still went outside. Oh, so they knew that. Did they ask you questions? Khabib got some crazy fans, man.

1:03:07 When he won Yeah that was crazy But it's essentially like Yeah. And the dude was like, get out. over there because i eat nothing but meat i was trying to do keto while i was over there like eight pounds it was crazy man it was a crazy experience man it was a crazy experience in things like that is so many different sects that makes it bad just like with christianity and people in the

1:06:22 i was like man you do what you want to do i can can't tell you. He was like, I mean, I'm going to have Yeah, they gave him a documentary i was just like man maybe i make this documentary put it on netflix or amazon for free Well, I put it out on my channel, a snippet, and then at the end of it, when it happened, I was like, watch the full episode on Embedded, right?

1:08:14 Either way, you're getting it now. I'm thinking to myself, these fans are crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It'll drive you fucking crazy. you appreciating what i'm doing or are you just trolling you're talking to morons yeah i mean that Kamaru Usman was a bum? I used to love When you and Shaab are together, I love that because y'all able to bounce. to say earlier my goal i would love to do an anatomy of deontay water i bet you could do it i bet you i tried to get i had andy ruiz and really and they didn't so what happened was mike

1:11:19 And he did, and I missed out. And I film the Suhudos. That's the ecstasy I get out of filming these guys. King of Cringe. He's like the Mexican Kobe Covington. And it looked like he was going to get KO'd. special athlete i did not know when he lost the dj so who was lost he went on a whole world tour He could strike with you. motherfucker oh my god he's got such a deep knowledge and understanding of the sport. You ever see him fight?

1:14:41 Frank Shamrock submitted Dan Henderson. like Josh Barnett and, of course, Mighty Mouse being the biggest one. It's not as big as come from it like uh josh barnett and of course mighty mouse being the biggest one it's not as big as say like miami like where you're at in south florida that's that's the yeah angelo dundee you're blowing it kid yeah when he comes out and stops tommy hearns the next round

1:16:29 I love Seattle, but that rainy season can suck my dick. no it's just vitamin d man it just it really is it's not good for you i love san diego san diego quest bars and um i seen like this dude in the aisle like and he and he was like what's up man It's infested with homeless people. They just send homeless people and let someone else deal with it. Prostitution next.

1:18:52 because it sucks to be a man in dating because you gotta impress well if you can impress it I'm 37. and things like that. I don't fault any woman Yeah. just drove to irvine the other day i was like that was a simple drive yeah as long as you do it early When you went to Shob's show when he had his special, how early did you? I didn't even stay there.

1:20:51 You used this online shit. Well, you don't need a book, but just do a video about it. and things like that? Rawest form Yes, chicks. That's got to be weird, a successful celebrity woman trying to meet dudes. and she was doing like you know content but on her phone like in her living room doing like squat Yep. You got a great body. they think everyone's going to fuck them over.

1:23:41 It's nuts. I'm trying to do some stuff with them. That's it, everybody. Yeah It cuts into your online dating That's a waste of time. So this is going to be one of the biggest MMA documentary channels in the world. I think 238,000. 100,000 subscribers. And I'm leaving guaranteed income and comfortability to put my time and effort into this. that's one of the reasons why i like documentaries because i think we can all relate to moments in

1:27:14 Exactly. And that's the reason why I love doing that form of content because it's just like everybody. everybody got their name well this guy was sitting by himself and nobody was trying to talk to him early days of podcasting you know it's it's how it is it's just life is a journey and what i love it's the same for me i feel bad for the other opponent like i people always ask me do you get

1:29:38 It's like, why don't you post about this fight? Don't do this. commented on, He's amazing. He's a beast, man. caught him with one of these one of these elbows in the clinch and he KO'd him and you know he just said okay I have to really learn Muay Thai and so He just cracked him with a left hand, and Khalil's very fast. thai i'd ever seen in mma because he you know he just he just absorbed it man what's what's better

1:33:18 kickboxer it's everybody it's it's the athlete but everybody's style has merits. Uzman got out of that wizard well Cedric Doombe but then he just, the last few fights, it was a couple fights ago, cedric dume babe concentrate on that dude he's my favorite Cedric Dume Kickboxers man Tong Chai Sitsong Pinong Yeah, 175 fucking fights. It's the way they incorporate their style competing against the other style.

1:36:18 had a tremendous run and mark hunt he fought ray cepho right yes Yes. Yeah, he did. Yes, he fought Ray Cepho. I mean, when you go back to Mark Hunt, Mark Hunt really, I mean, when he won the K-1 Grand Prix was probably when he was in his prime as an athlete. is hard knocks 365 that's where i started that's hen Hoof's gym, right? I love that guy. and then I came back refreshed.

1:38:02 just can't coach a champion and just to see him grind and find, but he has champions. I don't know. when you're not cutting weight it's a different world you know those advantages you have being because it is literally larger than the ufc worldwide because of asia all the millions of Then you post, you know, shout out to my guy Desmond Green, a video of him.

1:40:06 I was like, man, I just need to move somewhere, live a normal life and film. Are you going to train yourself? It'd be fun. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. beginning and i think you really should make sure you you get uh someone who shows a mile a day is They have them at the Institute, too. Aerosalt. Harder than regular running Yep You're pushing it rather than keep.

1:42:47 I'd be afraid to do anything at my age where, man, need somebody to properly teach me how to kick in that leg i'm disabling whoever in my face that's him in person you're like he a long motherfucker he's long and he will fuck you up the best at Why would he let him kick him? I haven't done Anatomy of John Jones yet. He deal it to another doctor, too.

1:44:49 How do you even strengthen that part of your leg? Yeah, sometimes. I've ever seen. preposterous. Pedro Hizzo was a fucking beast back in the day. I'm getting invited around these guys that I'm doing well with Hoofnim Like, I get so many fans be like, hey, do you think I could be with you at a fight week? you're real picky about what you film. I had released a snippet of the episode that I was going to release.

1:47:36 actually do i don't know what it was but he was freaking out and i was just like that the thing He said, no more 135 for you. Because he couldn't take Henry out. I mean, Henry has a self-belief and just a stainless steel will. Just think about guys like Calvin Cater that can flatline you. You know, you got Max Holloway, who's walking around at 180 and getting down to 145.

1:49:39 Woo! Like Shaolin monk type stuff, sent him off as a kid type thing. That's a good thing for him. You know, you've got Cain Velasquez,iel cormier you know go down the line you know It's called Dagestan basketball. Yes. Khabib, so sorry in basketball. What happens when the ball goes down? Look at his dad. Look, look, look. He pointed to me like he was happy.

1:52:02 Yeah. That's crazy. Really? Right? And look Brother You too big dunking on Khabib like he was trying to guard me? Yes. Basketball He dimed him though With the fucking ball like this A couple times Right here So he's wrestling Oh, my God. He's hitting him. Oh my God, he's on top. Look, now- He thought he was Dr. J right there. This is something different.

1:55:31 If you can't, if you're 6'5 and can't dunk a basketball. That's the thing. He hits so fucking hard. I saw it the other day. I wouldn't say scariest, but the most intimidating moment I ever have. And Francis came to support he put the banana in his mouth There's that uppercut. It really did. Because during fight week, you know how Embedded releases their series?

1:58:20 And you're just doing it, just slapping it up as quick as you can? All this stuff down Before I go to my room It's just Trying to catch you. Because you fight late. Boston time. You got to say. shouldn't have been even no contest but paulie's's never had power. He's never been a powerful guy. Yeah. just kidding i think he's gonna have some fun man i think if he if he finds a fight that's fun he's

2:01:11 To all be I would love to They've got UFC embedded. and maybe it would help Well, I think that way, but some people don't. y'all not going to promote this fight week. access and i love every single person over there like dean klein and heidi dean all those people gonna end up on here well i hope you win because i won a bunch of those it awards. It's me, you. I never go. It's me, you, Embedded, Dana White's Tuesday Contender Series, and then MMA Hour.

2:03:53 I get it. Cowboy told me. I think psychedelic drugs, whether they're marijuana or mushrooms, they're tools. to participate in something that gives you an altered state of consciousness because it allows So if you can't find the things that you're doing wrong, it's very difficult to grow. The subconscious is always aware of these things that are fucking with you.

2:06:11 They'll fuck you up. He said, yeah, you can go into another dimension. You go into like a well of souls. If you eat it with ayahuasca. Oh, that's right. Oh, to buy one That opened up in Pasadena And you do it for how long And he was just like, I didn't know where I was. Because you're not feeling your body. He's the last guy, I think, to get famous off of radio.

2:09:26 to hear Charlamagne Tha God say I was 31, it takes time. at my age now, Especially if you're a healthy 37. I mean, because if it wasn't for the internet, I wouldn't be able to put up these amazing videos. He's like a famous guy known for his opinions, known for being brash. responsibility to take care of somebody right so i've been lucky in that sense where i haven't

2:11:33 But you know what? going in on him because he was like i'm 30 i was 30 yeah like i the thing that i can say about He had a broken foot that he was injured. Now, after the fight, I can say, yeah, he was injured. Cejudo's ankle the week of the fight was giant black and blue, It was a bad weight cut. But that was 209 No he had problems before that though

2:13:46 event i ever went to does he have a nutritionist like in in uh dagestan does he have someone that Without eating. Yeah, I want to turn like with no water no nothing that is so crazy that's what i'm that's what i'm saying like that Now, I'm not a fighter, As soon as he grabs you, I was in a locker room. That's what he does. But you don't do that. I know.

2:16:11 I'm all about stories, He choked him out, Yeah. It is crazy how fighters' careers just change. A main event Yeah Yeah he did Oh, for sure. Willie didn't want me to film him the week of the fight I wouldn't say mad, I was butt hurt He was touring. Inspirational guy. I mean, his mom just goes over and embraces Kamaru. It's not just the winning and losing.

2:19:28 I'm in the gym sleeping on their couch. This is all yours Not only would you not do it editing it he's putting it together he's putting it out here's the video that's a beautiful thing There's probably four other guys that wanted to do what you're doing. Yes. And it's a baby stage to me. In August 14th will be full two years of committing to anatomy of a fighter.

2:21:19 I want a guy that's not even on the radar right now. and put it out there and hopefully somebody latches on and say we want to be a part of this this movement and i'm probably doing valentina shevchenko and her sister they are some beasts The second one right You know I'll do it again. There's some badass women. I'll talk to Cyborg her. They'll find some. There's some Muay Thai champions that'll fight her. There's some badass women.

2:23:34 It was rock them, sock them robots, but only one person was rocking it. I really did. hits like she's got bricks in her gloves just she just drops those fucking and the nicest person in And they were really promoting the shit out of Ronda Rousey. But you got to go to that to see a woman who hits that hard. jiu-jitsu black belt ron is not going to submit her and she's probably not going to get a dominant

2:26:41 fight with the late the late after the yes twice she got hit after the bell. She should have got a point taken and she would have won. It's hard to pick against Amanda. She won't let me film her. it's another thing another factor to consider and some people don't mind it like some i bet Yeah. Man. And Perry was like, what? Like where he looked at the sky.

2:29:28 He can be in movies. Interesting. That's where Jacare trained. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but if Felder didn't I don't think Felder You're out of your fucking mind. something special and sometimes those guys that have something special, they never – like Uriah Hall never really became what everybody thought he was going to become. He just had this perfect style.

2:32:25 With Nate and Pettis. Everybody look like that. And they sleep in better places. With Yoel. it's a big company see we we thought that it was a smaller company they would just go under You gave me 10. I think he beat Whitaker in the last fight. And he kissed him. When that guy goes into the cage and you see him move around, you're just like, jeez. I seen a side-by-side with him and Khabib when they were younger.

2:35:36 he's just he has this like slow move and he sets these traps on you and explodes where do you feel So it's like, is he's got, like, because obviously this, the Chuck Liddell's one day the evolution of the sport. Oh, my God. He's a monster. there will never be a cross promotion. I would be like, yeah, come on, let's fight. And I think that I would have a lot more weight classes.

2:38:08 Well, 55, 65, 75, 85, all the way on up. Yeah, because Mayweather was a welterweight champion in 147. it was their names yeah so what we've done is some weird thing where we decided fuck you i'm There's a lot of shit I don't agree with. For MMA, I feel like people would get too cut up. Dakota Cochran opened up just a fucking river on his head. I mean, that looks like you fell off a motorcycle and hit a tree.

2:40:30 You're not getting a lot of elbows in. He's an animal. That would be a tough fight for Michael. But the point is he didn't do shit. He doesn't have a, Like athletically, proves that we have the best combat sport in the world after the fight i was like oh my god there's charts he's got it focused like a goddamn laser beam and you just can't touch him he's he's better

2:42:55 He fought Berto. Was that after? Yeah, he stumbled. look man floyd is a motherfucker dude he's a motherfucker you might not like the style and Canelo's way bigger now. triple g get his third chance and that happens? Because it's similar stories. Like, he won, he won twice. I know. He's still good. He's like, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet. It looks like now's the time.

2:45:56 Well, that shit is crazy. What did you hear? he was just like, he weighed 220 you'd go wow he's got a real shot instagram videos i'm training how fast his hands he had like a million Snickers Whoa. I think he's fucked if he fights Deontay. He's like a giant Tommy Hearns, where there's all that leverage, all that torque. maybe Tyson would have gotten up because he would have known that it was eight when it was eight

2:49:33 But his obligation is to get up by the referee's count, not by a clock. They don't use that as an excuse. the ref i mean shouldn't it be the ref counting it should be like a voice like a digital voice and then the in-ring referee picks it up once he's got his attention on it. Two seconds. So it's parking your horse in front of the fucking saloon. One thing I like what Glory does, though, they incorporate five judges.

2:52:09 And I looked at that. I don't know. Oh, the one with Canelo. Yeah No he didn't win that fight on a majority decision. It's so old school dirty. You can't be dirty in usc though right really with the judging yeah Just let them play it out. It was time left, too. through could have stopped it that he wasn't out Where the arm dropped? And the way Askren said it is, when Herb started coming over to him,

2:55:17 I think he was out for a second. So as soon as he picked his arm up, he woke back up because he was like, thumbs up. And then Herb stops the fight. Nope, no, he wasn't. He's out. And he's so calm about how he handles things. Not anymore, man. and i was sitting there like man i wish i could have just got my hands on and told this guy's Just stop it.

2:57:21 when I see him get hit like that, That guy hits hard. It's a lot of double champions now. That's a lot. I would say, because they're going to have to do, That's a good question. But what did he say on Chael Sundin's podcast? It was sad. he looked like a goddamn skeleton Yeah. Yeah, he is. I was like, what the hell is going on? I remember when Uzman was getting ready for the Willie fight.

3:00:26 because they all in there trying to feed their families, man. Bricks. i can't yeah i understand it just it sucks because i filmed the connor team before i ever met khabib I know. You throw a dolly through a bus, you talk about somebody's family and all this stuff, I get that. everything you want yeah too he doesn't want anybody in close with him he's got secrets too

3:02:55 I mean, Luke Thomas had something on his Twitter documenting the last time. And then the Khabib fight that I really, I mean, that's debatable that he stung him. He grabbed him and it was. I didn't know who Khabib was. How about when he was beating the shit out of Conor In the locker room Cause it was just too much going on i was hoping it was going to be man i appreciate it i appreciate you and i think what you're doing