Joe Rogan Experience #10081 — Dave Leduc Transcript

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0:00 Three, two, one. No. Quebecois you're good how do you go from it was I was a pitcher in Pennsylvania. It never went physical, We didn't speak for many years. That's so crazy. So because of getting angry at your dad, that's what made you want like i wanted to fight because of that yeah that's so crazy so because we're doing this and then I said my coach my Sifu Sifu Patrick again shout out to my coach uh he said

2:59 last year yeah we did some nice headbutt videos oh wow we need to do one together after all right I feel like you fight like you train. Yeah. I mean, when they took away and bang, bang! So they took it out from the UFC. Sure. that way okay so now we were basically at the doing starting to do striking so then i do a Tell me about it. I'm not sure, my friends were there.

5:42 How much training had you done? What? I got a nice elbow in the clinch and cut him up right here. And started watching videos, but there was nothing. You have fights every week. up uh winning their tryouts and uh i i do it was a big year that year we had like dan hooker myself But I'm happy at the time. The mold? I'm sure they weren't testing that mold either.

8:07 and he's like, you're not good enough. and I was knocking, I was winning, like, the first round. So they don't make money with me. Oh, so they want you to they start gambling a second round and i was knocking i was winning like the first round so they don't make money with me oh so they wanted you to for so that's how i'm starting to get pissed a little bit and then um i'm making shit money and i sold

9:12 my wife. It's $200 a fight in the Puk you were making for a fight? $200? Thank God I had credit before coming to Thailand. Like fast. But Le Twé, it was almost unattainable at the time. I don't want to be Just champion anywhere I don't want to be I want to be champion In like the most brutal Shit in the world But Letwe No gloves Soccer kicks you can kick him in the head.

10:37 It's gray line. Yeah. Even though I love the ground, I think it's true that on the feet is more exciting sometimes. So just, again, I watch a Vice documentary on prison fight. And if the inmate wins, the sentence is reduced. and we were movie man with my Turkish We see 800 inmates If they win a fight And he actually won the finale. And he got in prison for that, for murder, basically.

13:20 And we were, me and him at the time, he was not in glory at the time. And then, I'm losing my thoughts. You want to fight Let's Way? That's his real name. No points. He said I have 40 fights. That's the mentality of it. Really? I don't believe in that stuff. Like, he was pretty cool. So explain to people that are just listening. from the Burmese army back in the days

17:09 So they saw you do that other country I embraced the culture. It's okay I was sent there to die. So every weight category has a belt. matter you know bellator ufc uh one fc there's one champion in the toy for it doesn't matter how many Yes. Those are cowboys. No, never been there. like it's uh it's one of the last truly wild places like there's beautiful cities and beautiful homes and stuff wyoming but

19:59 zealand so it's a nice trip as far but yeah af's nice. Africa's weird. Hunting in Africa is very strange. Well, it's obviously an enormous continent, but some of the countries can definitely be rough. I wish you were staying around here, man. If you've ever had venison It's not that chewy Oh yeah Nature's Metal Kyle Dunnigan's the headbutts oh in the backyard

21:38 they eat them Yeah. good luck getting gracking a bullet and getting your safety off and getting some distance like there's How would it go? You're not supposed to do that with bears. Did you see one when there were no hair? So we're talking about uh the prison fight i believe let's say I try to you know if I would put my hand on my head in a clinch, right?

24:24 And why is it so different? It's because you lose a limb not cut me. Right. So that's the key. Yeah. But then, again, why is it so different? Right. I mean, all those techniques are very valid to be able to cross over an elbow in the clinch i mean this Yes. when you don't pad the shins feel um it's even more I don't want that. 6'2". he was the former champ,

27:39 if you look at this, he's like 5'9", would it be about here, 5'10", weight in left way well in the wlc now they're trying they're trying to put like more strict That's me. Well, I try to be kind outside of the ring. Well, I actually got a message the other day from Diego Sanchez. He just dropped a scoop. disfigured him too yeah yeah and we had a little bit of rivalry and uh he's a very good

30:33 You know, there are like 55 men people. and most people unless you're a hardcore martial arts fan you don't even know about it yeah sport it's pretty exciting so it's very similar to Muay Thai an injury timeout in my ring in my corner they slap my face i i have they they pull me out in my but I mean, Yeah. another chance. They're doing that Because I've seen,

32:44 he went back to his corner, got revived, and won the fight. That's really rare. Show it to me in the beginning. So they drag him. And this is one of the strongest... That's freaking hard. Look after like 30 seconds and he ends up winning. It's about Litwe. How much time? It was a two-minute break. Boy this is so bad Oh look yeah So Tuntumin won the fight

35:56 fights right and i was like it's it seems so far away to go actually there i was a little kid from right? like almost and the people gather in the villages they and they have a satellite and the people gather and then we oh yeah the headbutt my first headbutt knockdown like this uh like this uh it really i use headbutt i use the started actually doing pad work for head butts though yeah in a more refined way because they

37:50 Is that something like the iron neck, to be honest. Yeah. So then this guy reaches up. for training your neck because it allows you to rotate okay so you put it on it's like a halo puts unnecessary pressure So you get a halo. can be a bit like And they don't like the weight thing. It was eagle throat in the neck. All this stuff right here? raises back in front yeah and pendulum and everything but i'm not i'm not doing like

41:16 Yeah, neck bridges are a lot of wrestlers want to fuck their neck up on that. like when i do this i feel like like, oh, my trap working. why I say train your fucking neck, right? You're developing real power with that headbutt. brain damage with the ball heading the ball yeah for sure so i mean let's do what we have life is There's a great video of a girl

43:18 She grabs his collars it's not you know you don't want to those are two good move here it is here it is watch it Love it It's like yeah She did it well I fought there three times is that what's making you know that there's like I was watching it in Quebec. It's like I choose right now. Oh, that's great. it's like a dog on a leash with a you put that i'm hungry to go fight right and i actually have a

47:00 I need to film like a lot of videos. Then the promoter gets me into Lithuania. five generation Latwe fighter. it's in the jungle tutu i he was fighting that night too so we uh i go shake his hand he doesn't know yes and no in With the first fight, Yeah, exactly. They were laughing at me my pad holder at the time, stuff like that. that's the hard part, man.

49:24 many times. So I actually sectioned the back of my leg, like it was, I push kick his stomach And he grabs it And he sweeps my other leg Many times Was like What do you mean by sectioned? like uh all my chaos he's just smashing everyone and then um i uh i started adapting i went i So that was a big They call him the bull Because he gives He usually knocks him out In the first round he goes far right so then i'm like i kind

51:15 if you win this fight, when the, uh, cause I, And there's a hot air balloon. but then it makes the news in Myanmar, right? I'll show you pictures. It's pretty cool. But it's going to be in a Myanmar traditional wedding. So full gold with like, I'll show you a picture that's pretty cool. So it's live on TV and it's a BBC freaking everything. Oh, that's not the most glamorous one.

53:06 That was pictures from BBC. What is that hat called? yeah knee up like I don't give you Now, do these guys wear underwear under this, or are they free balling? waited before having them because i wanted to make sure i deserve them you know ah interesting okay It's so many things to talk about. He's bleeding. That's also pretty rare. to get up all right so uh and actually when he fell down, it is a beautiful, it was a pretty intense moment.

56:43 Yeah. So it's like literally there. all like they were Yeah. If you maybe Google like new champion, I don't know, but it's, so that was a big moment. obviously the guys are fucking like, they're, What happened, Jamie? with all these new fighters getting into the game well as like for example that was like a you know the lumpini champion came to miyamar

59:07 one of the best they're very technical threshold starts to kick in And if you look at back in the days, the Tongtu Empire, I think, I don't know the exact date, So then as they retreat, eventually they pushed them away, big ropes instead of doing bare knuckle let's wait it was only a bit of gauze they added big ropes you have big 8-ounce gloves, fence right so that's the two different type of,

1:01:31 no gloves or do you? Yeah, so you enjoy it more. Kung Lee, for those who don't know, get him a fight and how old are you now? I actually fought MMA two times. And I won my first MMA fight by guillotine. I'm super excited. Jonathan Meunier. So I accepted the fight, but I think it was a bit early for my pro debut. But then Firas is in his corner eventually stopped the fight because of elbows and the clinch in the in the in the guard but uh

1:05:06 but he's a great coach. What do you want to do as far as your career? My goal was to be champion. you're going to get I'd love that. hungriness anymore. No shit. Wow, He was good. Either Wyoming or Florida Do you know who you'd be fighting? With the bare knuckle fighting guys? That's the thing. And then it's going to go viral. uh, So it makes sense.

1:08:10 but Letui super fight I just see, They wanted me to fight Muay Thai. doing esports yeah i saw that one esports no he's ahead of the wave yeah because it's going to be Nothing shocks me more than the massive popularity of eSports in terms of as a spectator sport. Before, where parents would say, I have real problems. Yeah, I just want to see how much he gets in to tell you,

1:10:31 Yeah, my brain, What is it? Yeah, fuck Twitch. The problem is But what's not fun In the morning So you're in this 3D environment, and it's a mouse and a keyboard, What's up? We have it right there, man. into i get into too much it's a good on the airplane like Castle Defense. You just sleep? super addictive i think obsession is key for any success. Yes. And I think every successful people is eccentric a little bit.

1:14:17 To acquire excellence in anything, I believe it requires a real, genuine obsession where See, jiu-jitsu helps me. You just keep going. Sometimes we leave and I don't even feel good. You know An article about Or something insane like that. Yeah, but I really think that that's the same thing with video games as well i mean i i get out of here man i'm fucking exhausted sometimes when we were

1:16:28 I wanted to pick your brain on that because I'm, since we met in 2016 I don't know why I became champion my point is if there's something after I'm super happy with that because it's so hard I mean like body or physical body. perspective oh yeah is it yeah but other people's perspective but he's never done psychedelics and that can happen to your brain and to your consciousness

1:19:34 Is it nonsense? Is that you Do you Does your brain you know house consciousness That's the real answer. in the morning and you assume that all of your memories of your life uh they're accurate and I can see that, yeah. there's an infinite number of David Ledoux's out there. and all slightly different lives. your body knows what to do with it it has it it's it's a part of your your whole you know

1:23:24 that this is something Really? to be careful what we say to people but i understand but yeah i used to think people It helped me a lot. what kind of experiences are you having If you didn't pursue that, if you didn't go after that, finding out what it is what it is for you what what is it in your life that attracts you i've That's never interested me.

1:26:05 Could work hard New England I couldn't do it I tried it I wanted to see the world But that's you For another person That would be torture if you had some guy that really just wants to be Some people, like, do you know who Alex Honnold is? No rope. Amazing. Because if you get a rush, like you're in trouble. Did you try bungee? You do DMT but you don't do skydiving

1:28:22 In wearing one of those wingsuits He was trying to go through a bridge. For some people, it's architecture. Everybody has a, I mean, some people have many things, you know, and for some people Yeah. To be really great at anything, I think you have to be crazy. It is a crazy life, but it's a really crazy life if you follow your passions. They were always trying to get me to – the big one was graduate from college,

1:31:16 Really heavily when I was 15. something I can get really good at it. What brought you to Dubai? It's like 50 years behind Thailand. It's a beautiful, and then, like, it's very poor, right? It's like 50 years Yes. And it was not even downtown. I was like, my wife, she's Russian. and then i paid a deposit on an apartment before leaving the seminar so it's like you're in

1:34:05 Does it? A lot of money. Yeah.ces. A lot of money. Not me. What? I found my sandals'm not sure. You don't even know what it is? I don't care. I'm not a materialist guy. What? I think he actually. Yeah. What brought you there? not enough to have a nice resource you need to have the one for the so that's an extra million saudi arabian summer because uh in summer in saudi arabia it's so fucking hot that summer

1:37:13 and there was a car that was parked there like a lamborghini that had a like saudi arabian license That's what it is. No. You feel more happy with it. So we just Googled what's the best weather in the world. Monkeys, crocodiles. It's a Greek. So did you learn Turkish? So my Russian is getting pretty good. Yeah, you're all over the fucking place. So right now I would like,

1:39:39 You know, know oh but if the fight is in june in the states i will actually probably do my training camp again I remember thinking that Boston was cold, and then I went up to Montreal in December. and i was like oh my god that fucking accent what's like boston pack your car okay working Russian's hot. Men can have it It reminds me of girls Yeah so this is crazy So when you're um that will be definitely your next fight will be

1:41:53 It's good. I don't know how it happened. Consistency. Yeah, I got a decent amount of views, a lot of your views. Pull some of that up, Jim. it's basically, the ligaments. If I do my tricep, They would always tell you That's all fucked up I actually wanna save my hand after every fight you try these ones and more Yeah, let this roll, Jamie, so we can see some of this.

1:44:01 Now, did Cyrus try to headbutt you? Oh, nice. Yeah, exactly. at the time only guys the history of the sport And I was always like a dream of mine because of Street Fighter, right? pleasant this one but interesting and you're not using the front two knuckles well i guess uh yeah And I'm like, pop it out so at least I can close my fist and my first headbutts my first like solid because you had an injury i had no choice i couldn't do

1:47:19 So I was like, I don't want to, you know, so. After we're done today, I'm going to go with Gokor. and even in the country that was concentrating on leg locks. I did some weights Then New York Do you have a gym That's the thing. That seems so crazy, though, for a guy who's a world champion and a professional fighter You think? and also i studied because i want to i want to live as long as i can because again we don't

1:50:13 So, yes. right after in january we go back i'm going to film my academy like my videos which is also going Yes, fighting is cool, but I'm 27. I've only been fighting professionally for since 2013. be smarter you know that's the thing smarter in terms of life experience you know you have enough But then again, the thing that I'm saying is the one thing that I would be concerned with is the lack of time training in a high-level environment, which I think is one of the most

1:52:45 And hopefully you'll have an opponent that people will recognize as well. Yeah. It's like volleyball with your feet. That's the ball they the kick yeah and wow and Oh, my God. So it's super popular in Southeast Asia, and it can use your head, too. like a hacky sack and you know what I mean You know, like some kind of bamboo. like, you know, because, oh shit,

1:56:00 they love us there. Everyone was so nice there. Like they shake your hand like this. It's like, we're going to see that. then you show your ward tats, right? Yes, that's the only strike I can do in the end. oh yeah that's his and it's really It helps my skin, yeah. Yeah, I believe it's going to be Thank you. Very interesting.