Joe Rogan Experience #10090 — Rashad Evans Transcript

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0:00 Three, two, one, boom. myself i'm not going to put any more cards in there except for the ones i need but And it's got a little money clip on it, so I'll shove a couple bills in there and that's it. It's thick. Yeah, it is pretty dope. it is a weird thing they carry around and carrying a bag got shit to do you got a backpack you're fucking serious all right it's got two straps right but one strap like man what's wrong with you i think it's because you have to

2:57 Right? think it's got it no they're scared to rock a real fanny pack. It's a shoulder bag. People would be like, what the fuck are you doing? They're right in there. Some girls, like, you wear a fanny pack. pussy deterrent right there that you were telling me about of the things i can honestly say that's just revolutionized my my complete everything it's

6:04 psychology because i'm a moron but i would would say your body is going to think I'm more aggressive. So it was when I did a, like, when I had a really, really deep trip that just caused me to have one of those ego deaths. And then the knowingness said, like, you stink because you eat dead, rotting flesh. that i did the toad and then the toadad was one that really was the catalyst for everything.

8:24 Oh, my God. just trying to portray the information but trying to to impress people. And it made me like feel real gross. it was the most humbling experience i ever had you you know, just to feel my ego, who I thought I was, what I thought I was, completely just annihilated. People have very intense psychedelic experiences akin to DMT. Like no roof.

11:31 egyptians were trying to draw when they were drawing certain images but there's certain produces all the psychedelic chemicals. mushrooms it's really interesting is mushrooms actually Your body takes it in. microdosing that's how you know you got like 40 minutes i didn't finish the way i wanted to you know and i felt like you know after i came back from my

15:26 because being a smaller light heavyweight, all of my power was all in my legs. But see, that's where the training has gone. Did you lose the ability to explode with your knees? bone. They take a slice of the patella tendon and a piece of the bone on the bottom and they And I think I had to do it a lot because I had two of the knee surgeries back to back.

18:52 That cadaver one is nice. I was, that just, when all the cameras stopped flashing, when people stopped caring to get your pictures, when, you know, I got to see what it was like to when all the cameras not not just the best you were an elite right yeah i just wasn't class i wasn't elite world I was like, that is some serious explosion. hard place because um you know i didn't really have anybody to talk to i didn't really know

21:30 fighting was something that I did to, and, there's i mean what's the point if i can't go and compete the way i want to i'm only torturing I think every fighter gets to a point where you fight enough, then fighting, you kind of get in a weird space about it. You know, I've noticed that about you over the last few years of just I don't get to see you that often.

24:11 medicine the toad medicine and um after that we just kind of continue to always link up and we do to take the psilocybin experience where it's one that people can go through for healing and help and But, you know, John Hobson has taken all this information, and we're collecting it for him. They were treating their child and their children had seizures and epilepsy and stuff like that so they

27:43 collect. That's awesome. Have you read any McKenna stuff? weird voice of Mushroom and psychedelic proponent. I mean, apparently, according to biologists biologists is the biggest mystery in the fossil And then these undulates, these cow-like animals that would live on these grasslands and eat the cow and take shits. I'm sure, I'm sure that had something to do with it.

31:37 No one really understood. I mean, I think mushrooms, I know mushrooms have played a big part in our society. You feel the fact that it's like, oh, this is something ancient There's people like you that have had the experiences that go, And they think, oh, it's all about the mushrooms, man. There's a lot of different ways to tap into it. And sometimes we tend to think that, you know, our conscience is a product of the materialism.

35:12 I felt like, like, I always tend to think of life as, like, my own view of experience. your own the limitations of your biology that we have kept from the time that we were small little falling away and not being who i who i think i am is almost the most freeing feeling but at the you know how to go deep enough you know and you understand the fact that you know um there's this

37:46 I've described it the same way you described it. And even in a state, I remember being in a state where I was on one of my deepest trips, So I remember just sitting there just like, man, I want to be able to tell him and be able to convey to him in words what I'm feeling. And it said the reason why I'm stepping on these, getting pricked is because I'm stepping on live grass, stepping on dead spots where there's no.

40:07 actually every single one of them and that that was like a thought that i remember thinking and feeling like it like i'm feeling myself right now and it bugged me out it i know it's deep And it's easy to say now if I'm really working hard really concentrating hard it will fuck with me it'll sit in my head Yeah. And sometimes it's that fucking fire, that anger, that fear,

42:57 is where you just go out and do something and you do it a hundred percent great all the time where you you know you've been caught in a fight or you've made some mistakes in there, then you do know better. for so long you know and he's turned it into a whole fighting style You know what I'm saying? Dominic Reyes was winning. And the third round is the one that

46:08 won wound up winning the decision but the first round kraus had his back for four minutes and I'm not sure if it's a broken arm, There was a bunch of bad fights. There was a bunch of bad fights there was a bunch of bad decisions it wasn't just one there was like four or five on a You know, he was always moving forward with the action. And I don't think he did that.

49:35 I feel like those last two rounds should count more. This is my personal opinion were labored, and John just kept pressing, kept pressing, kept kicking him, kept punching school and some dude and another dude fought the dude who's getting the shit beat out of them at back very well in the fourth round but john absorbed john has a fucking hell of a chin too

51:36 It is his mind, too. all guys like you guys like machida world champions rampage world champions over and over and over get tired of the monotony of it you get You see it in a lot of his Jared Cannon ear fight And then on top of it, he's gigantic. His legs are fucking huge. I really want to see what Dominic Reyes looks like now with this rub, You know, I hope Kelvin takes some time off after that one.

55:34 Like I thought for sure John's lip would be all swollen like it was when he fought Augustus. And here's another guy, Corey Anderson. And he's angry He was like Beating the best in the world After that Johnny Walker fight that mindset like oh they don't respect me you know that's why he worked so hard yes his endurance So he sits and he talks, talks to you about, you know, your family, whatnot.

58:01 for different movement. you know that's crazy to have that kind of confidence in another person it's it well that's And he doesn't sleep. He kills it. mindset like sharp as hell but he'll torture you in that basement you know well it's so such a where the the success comes from that's that's it think about how many great fighters come out of real moves in there but they just they drill everything and the beat that dude is the beat is

1:02:30 and he's tall too that tall that the tall length is is really um it's something that helps him out He's a dog. And he's also huge for 45. It seemed like in that fight, Kader kind of realized towards the end, like, oh, he's going to set that up. Oh, he's going to set that up. I think also the first two rounds were really fast-paced, Oh, man, he's a savage.

1:04:38 and he's got ridiculous power too and with calvin's boxing and Jeremy's savagery, the two of them together. He's had a bunch of real problematic injuries that he can't get over. he like he just came from titling uh challenging for the title right it'd be hard for him to to i look at it and then a bunch of other guys now that aldo's because his kicks were just such a devastating weapon i mean he'll only need like two or three

1:06:54 Like how they, oh my gosh. But still, even without that, I felt like he beat Mirai's. to know because that was one of his primary weapons but still even without Oh, okay. It looks normal. to training and that transition of how to become more professional with your training you know i Okay. when it comes to mixed martial arts. gap like the equipment that we're we're using is not efficient you know some gloves that should be

1:10:35 realize how in-depth it was until i went to his basement and seen the little shop that he had but And he has a really, really thin headgear. competition as well yeah so this is the ufc seeing these because they need to make some adjustments Yeah, big hands. Yeah. Yeah. the training one but we're going to put like the training one, This has got some side padding.

1:14:18 what they want to do um he's a judge like he's made he's made headgears for people to so because Let me see. Yeah, and then the strap goes over. But still, those are better. when you had that opportunity uh as a guy who was a former world champion to go there and sort of become a part of a team from the ground up, And it worked for a while. And here's the thing about it.

1:18:26 built the whole fucking building. I went inside of it. him and I got to have a chance to spend some time together and just talk. And I just inherited this beef. an example yeah and by having a gym that sets an example that's such a insanely high level of super camps out there now it's interesting to see these places you have tri-star in montreal Or we'll go to Denver, and we'll work with Trevor Whitman in Denver so we had the three camps that we bounce around from and and um that's where we

1:21:24 or when Keith wasn't there or when keith wasn't I think I've ever... it was going to be a hard go. You know what I'm saying? tough fights and then really tough fights in training too right yeah yeah and that's the If I would have fell down, then we would have fell. I know. Or wedding carry There was like Fuck out of here Greg was a good time this mental toughness training huh yeah that was a mental toughness training

1:24:56 then you had to do it again until you completed it. I mean, I was a fighter, man. Right. Like, no, no, I ain't going to quit. Then show them you're not going to quit. I know you want to give up. They want to get you out of here anyways, man. Like, no, no, I ain't going to quit. Did you have any striking training growing up did you do any i did boxing i did some boxing yeah and i did uh some some karate too i did tank pseudo oh okay yeah i did tank pseudo for like few

1:27:25 She said You didn't have to hit him again Like the referee say You know, that's the thing, man. And he would work with me. session you know and and that's when you know he'll instill in me all these different things and I'm not going to be able to get into the cage and congratulate you. i think so i i it definitely was just because like going into that fight job, like the media sometimes can be so damn disrespectful.

1:30:07 Yeah, before I fought for the title. Wow. you know i went out i walked out to the song um immortal technique is called uh that's my boy Amaral Technique has such great lyrics, man. Yeah, Did he just say that shit? like, okay. What do you weigh now? But I feel good, though, man. and that's the thing about it. you know, And, you know, through understanding the mucus diet and just reading it,

1:35:08 I know a lot of people that they don't feel good when they eat red meat. And the crazy part about it is the fact that now I train less, but I can train harder. bashing each other in the head and shit like that we just we're we're being smart about it you know we're doing um you know a little bit lighter to the head but more more heavy shots to the body

1:37:01 and you know from this uh brand life cycle. Sure. You heard of Lifecycle? Then the second one would be a little bit more hearty. Raw vegetables and fruit. And you've got it down now. my own food. know what i'm saying right so cooking nice meals yeah so now i um i cook a lot of like west indians type of foods because they have a really good vegetarian uh menu like a lot of chickpeas um

1:39:35 And I like a lot of Indian food just because of that, you know. It has turkey tail, lion's mane, cordyceps. It's way higher in vitamin C than oranges and everything else like that. Yeah. Like, my body's just instantly recovering. Like I didn't feel the endurance aspect like I do right now, you know? And then I would just drink those all the time, but it just made me feel so strong.

1:43:00 Was that too much of a struggle? walking around around like 225 230 and what was different because it was from eating the meat yeah It becomes your lifestyle. Yeah, yeah. Real woke is great. Exactly. and then they're fucking annoying, and then it pisses other people off just more cognizant of every single choice that I make you know and and and It's happens when people start doing jujitsu, they just can't shut the fuck up about it.

1:47:19 When people believe in what they're doing, Some people are burdened by their environment as well, right? why you need to do it yes and and that's why i was i'm lucky that i was able to feel it so now You kind of have to trust the process, go through it. there's not a thing in the world that could fuck with me mentally. I don't think he can come to America.

1:50:18 He brought it to America, and he popularized doing it in very hot rooms. the end it's 90 minutes It's 90 minutes at 105 in my life if i just breathe and think about the exercise and then you know my brain starts and frustration and all this shit that's in your head see things for how they are and i always feel better always see i gotta try that oh it's the

1:53:50 dimethyltryptamine divisions come from nn dimethyltryptamine yeah yeah totally different they were all like i was all three of them were definitely have had visions yeah i just can't can't quite make out like what it what's it supposed to And these jesters were just going, fuck you. Giving me the finger Oh And once I was saying This is going to be the best one I've ever done.

1:57:02 I mean, there's part of you that gets trapped in thinking that way because you're trying to do something but you don't have to think Oh, you haven't done the ayahuasca. it um it was it brought like it didn't it didn't give me the experience i i wanted but it gave me the Are you working with young fighters? one of the things they really like about you is your guidance,

2:00:35 and try to get them to bigger shows and stuff like that. I'm just trying to – I just want to tell you. And he's like, no. mean i know people have weird ways of looking at themselves you know where they just decide they're special without putting in any work. that i think that i see that more with with the kids and it's this next generation just because

2:02:57 the maybe even more egregious one because at least conor mcgregor was a world champion combat sports Oh, my God. How did the fight decided to try his hand fight, whatever commission allowed 300. I mean, maybe he didn't have Go before that so you can watch. Oh, my gosh. Teep. with him and the whole fight's like that And Lordzilla's a beast man And then no wind up

2:05:40 I'll fucking fight this guy You think you can hit hard. It's the worst. those guys have that pressure top game. he's got he's got uh like you know that long leverage that tall strength oh yeah oh man that He's tall. his shoulders are massive they got skinny they go down those little calves like what what's going on here and he kicks the hell He checked them.

2:08:46 It's real hard to check, though. But they're both feeling it. And he's like, I'm fucking fine. and I think in Chandler and I don't think you're like Yeah. Everybody's doing it now. Yeah, pronated outside. That motherfucking kick, though. You can't get in a war with Paul Daly. to come back as a heavyweight he said yeah and he's looking good he's in training he's in training

2:12:22 I'm like, Rumble, don't be going crazy,'s like i ain't gonna you know i ain't go crazy i go crazy and we train we train was ever 170 i am so baffled so by how the fuck he made that weight so this is over at uh the new Yeah. Oh, okay. same area yeah yeah so we had we had the black zillion gym and then we went to a gym uh that's was like oh i get goosebumps yeah mario was the best i just think that him and um him and glenn

2:15:30 Right, right, right. They're so valuable because also for a fighter like Trevor Whitman's holding pads for you. And you start to believe it. He was just a fighter. Like, when I first started going to Montreal. He wasn't the coach yet recommending me shit he's always got something something interesting that he's been paying That works. Mentally working through it almost every single fight.

2:18:41 But it's always these different mental mental games and me just doing think about executing your technique and just only think about executing your technique and how it Some fighters like to meditate. that I would be like, oh, my God, I just don't want to freeze out there. That's funny. George would do it. he didn't like the way his nipples look when he first came out the shirt.

2:21:17 Yeah, man. And they're real embarrassed. Weird. just glad i didn't have nothing like that i i did get big big to have some some boobie weight but But, you know, I'm still in that space just trying to figure out that next thing that I align with, you know. a part of that. You know, that's what really resonates in me more than anything right now. the amount of information you shared and

2:24:00 and thank you for that Your Instagram, Twitter And, you know, after they send an email, the information will be destroyed. Bye. Thank you brother I appreciate you being here man It was awesome Rashad Evans ladies and gentlemen Bye