Joe Rogan Experience #10091 — Radio Rahim Transcript

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0:00 Yeah, that is a guy named Ross Baines. But that's Richard Pryor. I have Frank Sinatra in the green room. there a lot well it didn't start off that way this is what happened i was in hawaii and they i'm a So I said, oh, that would be a good backdrop for the podcast. I got Steven Tyler on the wall over there. And I'm like, and that's what they're famous for.

2:42 Well, particularly in a time where these guys were doing their art. doing i mean within reason we're not talking about like harming other people whatnot but the society These people that were just doing their thing. lashes out and captures them briefly, but they don't even realize they're just making them bigger. picture let's put his mugshot logo under that so it was the actual words from toronto where he got

4:55 That is a cooler one because if that one down there is, yeah, okay. But I didn't know Steven. That's Axl Rose right here. Look how odd he looks there. To this day. It's connected to the Barclays center it's connected to the barclay and so to see him angry at you to this day and like giving you crazy eyes that was like oh and I'm going to give you the context of what I was

8:23 It comes up. It's going to come up. First time they met. So I'm familiar with what you also know, that fighting, even combat sports, boxing, MMA, history of it. Obviously, to this element I'm a fighting man. He's talking to a world audience. I travel the world. So when I see this argument happening, I'm like, oh, okay, well, this is definitely a moment.

11:59 But on this particular day, I didn't have a haircut. from doing the experience you know i mean that guy was having a good day this guy's been waiting to fight for at least three months if not you know 10 weeks ramped up I word my questions very carefully. Because you said your people instead of our people. But I can't take possession of your quote.

14:05 So, uh, when I'm like, have never been listening to him before right but Oh. He thinks because I do know what he's talking about. mean? Because there is a debate on that. Y'all know what the fuck I talk about when I say these things. And if nobody, if anybody don't understand that, then God be with them. You know what I'm talking about, man. You know the key planet but just so you know, there's more to this video.

18:17 is not the first time i've had an interview that has you know uh gotten a major attention not the That one might get me a few hundred thousand, if not a million views, maybe. build-up so for me that in and of itself is something of a victory like you've you've created looks so bad I'm like, well, is there any possible way this is good? like humbled if you're ever feeling too big about yourself post a youtube video let it sit there for

21:05 When he's upset at somebody Inward in his place How many knots Right. They've been giving him stick overseas for not being known anywhere. knocking everybody out. He's WBC belts this way and not be making it's not like made a shit ton of money for that fight so now that all People are like... the black sellout class. The internet is so goddamn funny.

23:59 So, as this thing gets bigger and bigger I start to realize that it's really again taking myself black information being like yo this is this is what we're experiencing. I think that it was exactly the right thing at the right time. the moment doesn't exist right right and that's the beauty of like you were telling me in the to this day oh my god oh my god yeah oh my you know, hey, man, it's a godsend, really.

27:04 I was nervous i white America. I was like, yeah, get him. Oh man, he walks off in disgust. I do know the guy so whatever happens in this moment this is what's. You've got a great perspective on it, though. And it gave me an opportunity to be seen, trying to get something out of the fighter to be consumed by the audience in a way that if that's all you're feeding them yeah so i try to get out of the way i don't want to get in front

31:17 And to this guy's credit, We have a bond now. There's nothing like it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like there's no... You're accountable in a different way. Now the regular person has a fuckload to say. The amount of comments that are useful or thoughtful or like, okay, interesting, 90%, maybe 92. They call it shitposting. Oh, well that guy that he beat up, that guy is fucking crazy.

35:00 Ah, yeah, that is his name. Like, he tried to sucker punch Floyd Sr. Yeah. be every couple of hours. I mean, he's fortunate he's still alive, But what do you think? They want to be able to whistle blow and say, hey, there's some safety problems here or there's some sexual harassment here or there's this or that. like there's people that have talked about like unfair labor practices

37:27 There's real crimes taking place. There's no... You shouldn't be reading that shit anyway. little bit no fucking chance no fucking chance no i've disappointed i mean i i have in the past Like way long ago But within the last couple years I don't If people don't love me by now those are fun conversations but just throwing yourself into the wolves of the comments

39:58 So I have to like be listening to what they're saying and understand how they're consuming Don't read it. and it's not healthy and most of it's positive right if i if i go on my instagram like if i I'm not here to talk fucking Venezuela with you. Yeah. You know, the way you explained it backstage when we were at the comedy store, I was laughing And it's the way that a lot of people identify me.

42:41 40 knockouts. turns the comment section off but man i don't think that's a good idea i don't think that's it wasn't that long but it was long enough for people to freak the fuck out and i'm like hey They're like, man, he just talks about himself. I was just talking about this in the last podcast And they'd be digging those tweets up now and then having that come back to haunt me when I want a job someday.

45:50 You know, there's a thing with comedy, right, where you have to leave your town because they won't appreciate you. Even though I'd gotten better, they still thought I was terrible. But what about the internet for comedians? working some shit out at the store you're not going to film it and put it online. Most people are not going to do that. Put your phones away and just be present and all that.

48:04 what is zero but i mean even started that like ionder, yonder bags. What is Yonder? the first time I ever used them, miami is it's such a party town right and half the audience is probably coked up and is the only or whatever the fuck they're trying to do. That is like, you should have to have a passport to go to Miami. actually spent any time do you go to south beach uh i went to south beach i went downtown it's a

50:19 The most fantastic Cuban food you'll ever find. on their phones. Right. And I had a camera that I would use to shoot sparring sessions. a radio station in the basement it's like a coming of age like 80s movie or some shit like Except that I'm now, I've moved to L.A. right after high school. the man. And there's a guy named Danny insane. He was wilder

53:29 the main fighter at any gym Right. You can get the fight. Look at this Oh my goodness Was James heavyweight at this point? I haven't seen this footage in I don't even know how many years. give you a highlight of De La Hoya. like, hey, you know, Danny Green doesn't want it. I need every VHS And at that time, they were pretty much the they say, hey, we heard Danny Green came down a wild

56:14 Yeah. You know what I mean? Come here. God rest his soul. The thing about James Toney at this time, he always looked really tired. Come on, paper champ. And then what happened at the end of it? Danny had enough. Right? wild card and then i would branch out get fighters agree, let me shoot the sessions and turn it into a show called Gym Wars. Since fifth grade, always trained.

1:00:55 pay for it and that was my way of doing it um and so be interviewing fighters is now like my claim You know what I mean? I kept doing what was working. Strap season. That's connected to another fight. goes to the fights. He takes his whole Wow. Brandon Rios. Wow. The Brandon Rios just like, He just lit him up. And dropped Thurman. was at the Vagabond Hotel,

1:04:51 guy I've ever known in my life. he's got to do everything yeah because he it's like water like he wants to feed the people he Like, you know, the Chappelle's were there. Wow. For the fight flew in flew his family in like you know the chapelles were there wow uh for the fight and is something that I don't think anybody else could do. Like I do. had an interesting he's a really good MMA journalist.

1:07:55 You know, that's his thing. and you see a guy dropping an elbow on their face There's five fighters that we know about that have succumbed to injuries in the ring. Yeah, exactly. They'll be tuned up and ready to go, but they're not ready to go to war. You're fighting the guy inside you that wants to quit. locker room there's a little bit of that in everybody and you're fighting him too yeah you

1:10:19 That's what I heard. I mean, imagine being his opponent doing what you're doing so the kind of love that you have for combat sports the kind of love that you have a combat sports kind of love To have Andrew Ruiz jump out of nowhere and knock out Anthony Joshua, but it's also like, You got the rematch with Tyson Fury's coming up in two weeks. That's fair.

1:12:35 after he won the title as though he won the lottery or he won a scratch off and this shit That rematch was a disaster. He held that camera up and he did one of these things. I heard whispers of that and didn't believe it. I was like, no fucking way i believed it i believed it you know why i believed it because though uh ruiz came in out of shape and clearly didn't look like he was prepared correctly

1:15:16 show at any moment that 12th round i was i was in bed and i was watching the fight and I went, oh shit. I popped up. Oh shit. And he even rocked Deontay at one point in time. the way he knocked him down in the 12th round should almost count for, waved it off. There's no way Crazy. Well that punch I mean, the argument about who's best can rage for days,

1:17:11 100%. If he gets on the mic and starts talking that kind of shit, sitting right in front of the fucking tv sweaty palms now see for you to say that about a boxing Like, it looked like he planned for Kovalev to fade. And when Kovalev, in the early days, man, But to your point, it's hand. I mean, he was something special. But to your point, suit, which is why I say

1:19:35 everybody thought he was going to win going away. Yeah, I heard it. on the night and you get to that first That I find hard to believe. And then he's starting to freak out. an easy replacement. in June. Big Baby Miller weeks in. What do you do? If that was the case. The biggest knockout puncher in heavyweight boxing The old school one punch destroyers.

1:23:08 Ruiz is laying on the ropes like, what in the fuck just hit me? Because the way he's built, first of all, 6'9", 209 pounds. But also, because of that, doesn't get tired like those bigger guys. But he recovers. and he believed It is science. He's been right 40 fucking times. He got dropped earlier in the fight. I don't think Wilder thinks he survived.

1:25:55 at this point i don't get this like nostalgic like human error bullshit i don't believe in any They don't judge fights anymore. And I'll be on my phone texting my friends, hey, you know, this fight, I got it this way. No, the judges don't. Three judges is ridiculous. and in MMA we have an additional and there was really, really bad decisions. I've got the same skill set here as I do in the other one.

1:28:46 And then the main event was a very controversial decision, I watched it again today, actually. Well, I really think they need more people choosing. because Canelo fought very differently in the second fight. well, let me show you what I can do. Does he stay at light heavyweight? fluctuating and wait like that but didn't he fight floyd at 52 yeah that's nuts yeah that's nuts yeah 75 now

1:31:28 I'm suspicious, though. Yeah, right. dough on vada or whatever and whatnot no what is the status of Adonis Stevenson? He's always going to now for the rest of his life deal with those injuries So it's not like Gerald McClellan. got hurt said he would never want to go out like that. And he's fighting young badasses in Russia and shit. without taking that kind of damage.

1:34:31 He said, it's not the fights that destroy you. And it's like the hundreds and hundreds of rounds to thousands of rounds that you're fighting that nobody sees, that you're not getting paid for, Oh yeah sparring yeah he looked great in moments in that fight like it was like the eighth round where he the rub is that you do made sense. No, it's just part of it you find that a little bit in mma now donald cerrone was doing that for

1:36:54 and also to danger, to be able to exist show still because people wouldn't let you? Like, someone, Dylan Weil, was talking about that recently. Right. It's like, yo, that's what I was paying you to do, man. thank god he didn't have a seat belt on i never say that thank god he didn't have a fucking seat Nothing can taint what's going to happen in the ring.

1:39:45 Yeah. Like, you're not wrong. Like, from what I understand, he had issues this very closely, not badly at all. You're not wrong. He had no permanent damn what a fight that would be yeah god damn that is the fight it's almost like I wish Lomachenko But Terrence Crawford just figures people out. But once he starts putting it on dudes, man, there's like

1:42:02 fight. You can see Lomachenko in a great too small. I mean, I don't think he's ever going to and stronger and better. Yeah, I mean, he's Again, by the time fight night is, fight night's on, you're fighting a middleweight. It's got to happen. it's got to happen. So are they trying to make something happen soon? Yeah, I know. tune-up fight type of dude.

1:44:05 Shut the fuck up. I felt like I was meditating and then somehow having a muscle relaxing massage at the same time. Just floating Exactly. I felt like I had a massage when I got out. I try to tell more people about it. Yes. They use all the float lab I'm like, you know, you have some money. They look like built-in. many things, but should I do in between?

1:48:11 But podcasts are fun because I like talking to people. Like I'm always trying to figure out my own mind like what are It's something you get better at not being annoying. and i realized like oh this is the future this is what martial arts really should be And then when you see them go after it, you're like, oh, it's a combination of things. and I'm already interested in it.

1:51:08 But that's like I probably would do that anyway if I had the time. all kinds of shit. I want to hear them talk. I want to see the training. I want to see them and all the things that are on the line, react and respond to other people in a boxing gym yeah So I ask this because my other thing as a hobby or like a fascination, Doing live stand-up makes doing podcasts easier.

1:53:16 You have to do like I'm doing two sets tonight. You got to be ready. and it would have fucked them up, but you became empowered by it. All these people are mad at me. Right. And that's why you get pissed off when someone dismisses that kind of but then someone goes, oh, oui, oui, that dana white is going to become a boxing promoter i've heard for like five years he is

1:57:11 TMT. So he and they did this sort of co-promotion for that big fight, and then they're working I just wonder how that works You just have to schedule Literally is a fight I thought the ESPN, because I have ESPN Plus, and I was like, oh, great. I watched it again when I was lifting this morning and I had to pay 65 bucks. whichever production you like

1:59:16 If you go to ESPN, i don't know he was one of my favorite guys andre ward was also one of my favorite guys. He's – I love Andre Ward for a bunch of reasons, He's going to stay away. just because of who he is. coming out of retirement and talking about these fights and the way I do. fighter from the majority of his super spinatus was like ripped off like it was really fucked up

2:01:57 Right, which is why people are afraid of surgery. Jeez. I don't think the mainstream public really appreciates how great he was. But I remember when Mark Breland was coming from the Olympics, Yeah, timing's everything. don't deserve the shots that they continue You're Mexican. He has the record of world title wins. How far can you hope to get in legacy?

2:05:19 fucked up and you didn't think it was gonna work out where where you didn't think it was going to work out where where you didn't think there was there was there'd be something burning brightly inside him, But he's a Canelo was just a better fighter. He looked okay, right? bro yeah what is it what else is exciting for you on the horizon boxing wise what are you looking at

2:08:16 Like, you know what I mean? So that is going to protect him. is well is that the thing maybe they heard you talking about i was like well just got posted a They're going to sell it. What are you doing? Manny Pacquiao shown that he's still a legit Very good fight, too. Like, if you go out there, comport yourself well, leave it all in the octagon, make you a bitch. Doesn't make you like a bum.

2:11:56 By the way, that is the most electric boxing atmosphere I've ever been a part of. We were sitting like, I didn't want to be bothered with all the yfters we're even sitting in the press row we were sitting it's like they almost kind of have to keep going like all the greats kept going all the great Yeah. And it is a dark thing to see a fight where you see a guy get beaten down and the

2:14:29 Well, you remember the Gerald McClellan fight. line right there's only a guy trying to fuck you up and you're trying to fuck him up right and the MMA has some pretty exceptional referees that are very aware of the dangers of guys taking extra shots. Wilder in that 12th but it also it gives your brain a false sense of recovery like you're interesting to me what's what's interesting to me more than anything is the growth of the understanding of what works and what doesn't work, of skill, of technique.

2:17:25 He'd catch people with arm bars. amazing like no one's been able to do that john's undefeated he has one loss by disqualification There was no way Matt Hamill was winning that fight. yeah right i respect and appreciate mma but it's almost like the antithesis of that in that they have And I understood why a boxer wouldn't fight a karate man You have to know everything.

2:20:17 Because if you don't, you could hold a guy down. He would just stay up with guys and just fuck them up with timing and precision and Muay Thai. they're dominated by wrestlers. But I'm telling you, I get it. I had a beanie, but it was Wu-Tang. in i don't you must live here i would just live here i don't know what is going on but like Bye, everybody.