Joe Rogan Experience #10093 — Alexander Volkanovski Transcript
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0:00 Love, no? Okay, no. Here we go. Three, two, one. Oh, not for much, mate. Not for much. Just... needs to be done so it's uh you know it is different you're going to get recognized a Wollongong. So you're close? Got me before and after. Bring in some of those liquid IVs. All right. Yeah, I'm addicted Okay. and then there's becoming for me to go out there and and do it like that you know that's something i'm very proud of oh
2:55 attention. So that's why I wanted that fight. I knew if if I took him on that'll get me straight to you No, no, no, we go to New Zealand. and you know that's when they bring Eugene and Israel and that's when I started like and got And then I head to my fight usually. Did you need a higher level of competition to train with? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean?
5:25 So when did you start training? You guys have that Australian language. I'm 5'6 on a good day. So that's why I went and started and just loved it ever since. Jesus Christ. It was something that I was actually pretty good at, and stuff like that but then I just I just gave it up and started playing football Usually they'll have, like, games nights. this high and look this old, like for, you know, since I was like 12. So I was always,
8:27 I scored a 40 meter try. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? I really do. But you were at least not under the illusion that you're protected like American football players have been for so long with the helmets and the pads. someone running at, you know, no helmet as well. The head, the brain swashing around inside your skull. Day in, day out. you could try to submit someone, you could try to wrestle with them.
11:29 You could do everything right, make thousands of meters, But I love the fact that I'm such a hard worker So I've always loved that. You know, it was just something that I've always loved. And that's when I just absolutely started loving it. You know what I mean? Especially, as you were saying, me being looking like this since a young age. But yeah, there was times where I had to finish it.
14:03 Now UFC and MMA is getting so big that we're getting these athletes starting to train MMA I think that's the only time I've ever met him, to be honest. yeah John Wayne Parr This was a long time ago. I'll connect you and John Wayne if you'd like. So you decided to make the leap. Yeah, I think so. this on i reckon i can go the whole way and again like i've already pictured myself winning world
16:37 But I'm like, I reckon I can do it. I don't even know. 20 and 1, 21. 21 and 1? 20 and 1. I don't even know. No, that went before when I started. But I took him on and I don't know, I held my own, jujitsu. I had a jujitsu comp. And I was just saying, again, that's when I started dieting as I look at these featherweights, I'm just like, after because I obviously broke my hand and stuff like that but uh you broke the hand the max fight
19:16 So that's it. Wow. You know, I want to train. Even now, like even when I train so hard, if you're not dieting well, the weight won't come off. Yeah, a hundred percent, you know, staph infections all the time and all that. mrsa and you know all that oh you got mrsa jesus christ mercis scares the shit out of me yeah I was a rattle man. You know, So I was on my way home where it just absolutely rocked me,
22:39 Translate that to our dumb. Let's guess. Yeah, get on. now, I always say 145. yeah right here with certain things cool fucking accent, though. New Zealand's a dope place to be, too, man. the last event where the boys are fought in auckland so i was there yeah yep so i was there Beautiful trout fishing in New Zealand. Mice season? And when the mice get into the water, the trout eat the mice.
25:49 It's good. But they just have an enormous brown trout over in New Zealand. What am I giving that? I was useless at that. that's it you know again like as you know like underwater it's just a whole nother world yeah and it just disappears it's pretty scary when you you know what i mean you're out there and they're way scarier than predators on land because you can't get away.
28:11 Like, five minutes he'll be down there. have you so yeah i haven't done it i need to get in there yeah yeah my friend bert just got back Oh, there you go. Man, that's trying to pull it in. That's a marlin, right? Pull the trigger and then just lock your speargun to the boat or something like that? I'm like, let's go catch a fish. She's like, oh, and it's big, right?
30:42 it's just one of my favorite things to do. I love it. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, yeah. Asiatic water buffalo dangerous motherfuckers he'll take you exactly Is pissing this water You know I gave you Is there a right way I belong over there. You need to fix that. Hey, thank you very much for the hat. is that green tree this is probably in australia oh they're the everglades i don't know but what
33:05 That doesn't even make sense. You know what I mean? So now I'll be way too scared up there. Anything locked in obviously, I think they're waiting for clearances and stuff like that. There's a hand clear now. Yeah. Yeah, so I've been many months Do you have a pin in there or anything? We haven't even really had that conversation yet. weekend were you there when he smacked Jay Park?
35:26 Why was he saying that? Like, so maybe. So we go out there and, you know, watch the boys, You can't smack that guy Yeah, I know. You can't smack. He's a tiny little guy too. You can't smack that guy. You can't be smacking some guy who's a rapper. They just keep happening to him. i mean they shouldn't make a fight just because he smacked I think and I understand that
38:00 I'm not going to wait around I just do my thing. Yeah. Well, I was so impressed with the fight you fought against Max It's a very difficult style to maintain for five rounds. So it's just literally fight gone bad, and it's just the hardest. know obviously to have a style like like that like you said you know you got to put the work in but Was anything unusual?
40:38 like, you know, I'll go uh whether that's uh you know making him adjust you know his stance and and just putting him in a game that's been so successful for himself so uh i don't know i'm expecting the same thing i'm but for him to actually do the whole round bodies and styles and you know what i mean no surprises come flat time that's how i look at it
42:58 Yeah, man. But it's cool. We've got a couple of guys, even amateurs, that fight. why they're so successful as well, obviously it's working well. Obviously, a lot of people are knocking it. It's just a tricky one, man. Yeah, because he didn't come forward. Yeah, like he's he's selling as if he was chasing Izzy and Izzy wasn't doing anything Yeah. into it a little bit and you all through that fucking left hand yeah crazy how
46:14 And I think he did fight smart. Robert Whitaker fought Yoel in a very exciting way, I'll even like a, Well, that's what Rockhold said. I really felt like that was how Izzy had to fight him. Use that, you know? you're champion you've got to you've got to fight the fight that's going to get you to win and you Like here's another example, Paulo Costa.
48:33 It was close. Doesn't even budge. Oh, yeah. I've never seen a neck surgery scar that's that large. you obviously doing mma you gotta do a lot of wrestling and yes just seeing them scramble like but I put myself there, and then how do you adapt to that? Right. They don't, they want to be dominating in practice. They don't want to feel like, you know, they're getting smothered and sw the time they don't want to be the nail you know they don't they want to be dominating in practice they don't want to feel like you know they're getting smothered and swarmed
52:02 and you'll be losing but you know you can just sit there and accept that oh I'm going to find a way Yeah. Yeah. and it really is physically and mentally draining. But when I'm fighting, I'm me. You know what I mean? you're all good go to the toilet and he starts going and they're still trying to stay out of So I don't know if I need one, but I think I should still invest in mine.
55:05 No, I wouldn't say I was. I've got a game plan to stick to, so I've always done that. Like it's, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm just sitting there still walking around just like nothing happened. That's probably a good way to be it is it does help me in my fights it really does Holy fuck, what the, Is that a part of your diet? yeah so yeah man i'm yeah i don't, to be honest, when I'm in camp,
57:15 Oh, it's my favorite food. I mean, if you were in town, I'd give you some if you could cook it. Isn't that nuts? because they did what's called market hunting when there was no refrigerators back then. Utah is where I go every year. But I didn't get a chance to do that. Oh, okay. Okay, yeah. evenly on the horses and get out of there in one trip yeah because if not then you got to go back
1:00:15 I want to say. Oh, shit. Where was he at? the words is it a good idea to go back there now that you know it's been that's a terrible idea Okay. Yeah. Oh, so scary. It had decided Fucking animal man Ah, you want that meat though. And everything would be, all the meat would be already packed up and stuff. Obviously, we've got a lot of snakes and all that,
1:03:10 He's just like, man, he's like a Steve Irwin. And just situations like that, man, well they even just them sticking to you i feel like plus they're smart as shit yeah oh yeah man maybe average two. but they're fucking so they put a tentacle through Yeah. And they're delicious. So I'm saying we've seen, obviously in the wild, Yeah, man. Yeah, for sure.
1:05:56 The deers, and just any open paddock So they'll take a house cat. Okay, yeah. Like, hunters kill as many coyotes as they can over here. I've had them a bunch. will be waiting, and they'll jump the dog and kill it. Now a massive culling is underway to preserve what's left of the wild. All right. Yeah, you do you do see a fair bit of them out there? It's just a, yeah, again, like it's bloody crazy.
1:09:09 In Australia? What in the hell, man? Like if you shoot cats, they'll give you money. and little things that'll get you, but then over here it just seems like So, like, we'll go out there and even just driving on the roads That's what we call Westies. I think you just said it too. and other things. Every year, these little fucks. Crazy stats. Yeah. remember yeah i can't remember.
1:12:31 Yeah, you bring them, and now they're like a massive problem, you know what I mean? They couldn't Wikipedia shit. The middle picture. Well, they started off, they're all up north in Queensland. I don't even know. They were like bang pots and pans to get rid of them. stats i thought i'd throw it out there but i don't know it's bloody i think oh man i remember
1:15:06 So they didn't learn from 35. That's a problem. They're good. Well, they always say everything tastes like chicken. Oh, okay. That means these fuckers, they're running around making sure that predators don't eat them. So what was it for bugs? If ingested, the venom can cause rapid heartbeat, excessive salivation, convulsions and paralysis Kill them if you can. The once popular
1:17:43 our rights, huh? Remove standing water. Far out. Make it valuable to kill them. It's a good thing to shoot at. Crazy. No, I used to get that. ago. Like, you know what I used to eat to now I'm talking even just a couple of couple of fights ago like Yeah, well, I'm always trying to. little bit less sugar or whatever it is you know know, the sauce I'm cutting. I don't really realize, but it's just fine little
1:21:11 So that's just how I am. weight i'm comfortable at you know what i mean so'm about, even two weeks out from a fight, I'm about 75 kg, maybe 74, but I'm pretty close to it. and then again i'll deplete a lot of water. easy to come off so like what's a typical meal for breakfast for you uh fight week no like during I'm like, man, I can't eat that much.
1:23:34 You're doing four workout sessions a day? Yeah, some days, yeah. it's usually in the morning we'll do a couple sessions and then we'll get a session at night And that's what I mean. Like some meals I'm like, man, I don't think I could even eat that. And then they're like, you know, they've got to feed us like all this so we can have the energy to train. And that's what I mean.
1:24:47 You're good. And it's not going to be as easy because your body's going to try to hold on to food and you're not going to have any energy yeah well i'd only done the infections always come and it's just crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So when you say you're working out three to most weeks are pretty much the same I'm not on But they could see I was run down, and that's when injuries can happen,
1:26:26 You know, that was, again, at the time, I'm like, oh, you know, I don't want to miss out on the trail. As with a nutritionist, it shows you the value of having a real professional And it's unfortunate. How many strength and conditioning sessions do you do? Baymed. So there was even times in my career where I was thinking I might have to give like give this up like and even after the Elkins fight what was wrong with your back I just
1:28:32 Those guys are always so negative. Don't worry. So this is sort of what, again, they were trying to get in my head and really sort of just let me sort of smash this mentally as well. before I fought. to do, yes. try to get back into it We just do a lot of it's just, again, hip mobility and all that. and then you lean forward. I do two things for my back that are really big.
1:30:35 That's a hip glute hamstring thing. All right. So he figured out this machine that created active decompression. And then when it lifts down, it actually pulls the back and decompresses, and it feels great. That thing pulls your back down. I have one at home, too. Yeah. and then try and get back to training and I would injure it again. they said if you, you know, if and let me, like literally, they said,
1:33:11 You know, even the first few sessions I started doing for my strength program, My back would go every time I did deadlifts and that because my technique was bad and just little things like that so that's Go back to that position Yeah. I wasn't ever activating my glutes to do stuff because, you know, stage where we can just sort of build everything you know and and even just having people that
1:35:54 that like i don't do it i'll be honest i don't do it enough like i should be sticking to especially I come and I'm just stiff as a board, you know what I mean? You know, it's just. kick her legs up in the air and go over like what in the fuck are you made out of little kids man I thought she was crying because we left the park and stuff like that. but like full hyper extended to her arm but she was all right a couple of days.
1:38:02 Just don't hold on to their arm when they do. drilling at the gym i'll keep my heart rate there and i'll be drilling i'll just do hours or an hour Or something like, all right, pull up. Because sometimes you feel like maybe I'm just being a pussy and then I can look at my phone and I go no man honest i don't don't do as much now so again doing the force you know the four sessions day
1:40:32 maybe a boxing workout, kickboxing, jiu-jitsu, maybe an MMA workout. everything and then you've got certain sessions that are like via two max wrestling and things Like, we're all about, you know, more technical sparring. Even if I train with someone that's not on my level, four sessions maybe even a week but a lot of times it's very very very chill you know very technical
1:42:33 everybody used to just brawl. Get back in there. just push them back in there nothing but the best of luck to you in the future do you have a website alright beautiful I've been drinking