Joe Rogan Experience #10100 — Cody Garbrandt Transcript
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0:00 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! Yeah. Did I let people know? training and had a good time out here. Back from the brink. thinking differently you know how i was able to approach the game picking myself back up You know, my passion wasn't there. I wasn't waking up every day like what's your reason why I was just trying to find that and I think the reason why I
2:52 You know, so I had to go out there. I love, I enjoy him so much, his passion for it, his love for it. scrolls from the pizzeria where we have off about 50 things that we're working on um before camp threw that into the into the game and it's it's you know it was nice to get that kind of stuff And I watched your podcast with Andre Ward, and he said the same thing about his trainer.
5:20 would he would care less he's like what did you do after? You moved after your head was off, your hands was up. And if you, you know, it's really like in jiu-jitsu, in rear naked choke and he'll start rolling like that he he's always safe so he never and that's i want to get that exchange and then that's when the fight unravels sometimes i think i get so
7:27 He's my right-hand guy from martial arts to the T, now i've transitioned into that fighter i was so green when I got to alpha male, and a lot of my speed and power catapulted me to the top just bring your hand up a little bit when you're slipping to the right and moving to the right We had so much success attacking that way too. And then feinted, did the Tyson 2, overhand right, dropped him.
9:50 like get get off the cage get to the you know movement more we're movement fighters you know I just had my range and my timing. that i needed to get knocked gone i kept like hey sean dana then obviously in the beginning of the to where my body just started shutting down like i remember telling coach mark after training one for the week to help me train and i was like chris bro i don't feel good um there's something going
13:02 trying to do these tests and like we didn't know what was going on Like people that are in – like if you're in a fight camp, your body is – you're constantly breaking yourself down. Like you got staph, bro. They went to Cleveland Clinic in Ohio, did all these tests. I'm on three fight skid. like you weren't visualizing then i wasn't i mean i ended up injuring myself in the fight with cruz
15:13 It was an annual tear. to heal you and mix with some other things. Yeah, some of it. Really, my whole entire life, without knowing what law of attraction was So that's what we were, you know, our first sport we fell in love with was wrestling. We traveled i was in school and read it over and over again i would hear the guy the announcer's name at the
17:49 pain to get you know your goals to be the top because everyone's going to everyone's fast This is my deposit to get back to my son, to have these good times, and so having those new guys on you trying to just you know earn your It's a co-op. but I need people that I respect that's going to push me the extra round or two and own the ufc and i was like that's a high praise from a guy that's worked with frankie
20:55 I was always, I didn't like change, but some change is growth. You know, I looked at it that showed me a lot about breaking fights down watching more fight tapes like my guys chris and you know there's people that on his level for sure i feel like chris is uh because chris is but what did he what the things i said i said i don't think there's a faster person in the sport.
23:41 But because of his incredible athleticism and ability, he developed this style that was just so unorthodox more emotionally invested in those fights than any fight you've yeah you know and the injury coming off a year But for you to go into a fight with someone you don't like, who you used to be tight with and used to train with, that's got to be like doubly difficult.
25:39 TJ can be on that stuff. I wasn't doing those. And, uh, you know, he capitalized and, and I look back on it. I, I have to feel like if I would have went off and defending the title and I probably wouldn't do you have like a do you have a disciplined format of visualization or do you just spend time I feel like I do well in that, but I'm at a different place in my life and what I want
28:00 and you've got to mentally put yourself in that position. i never expected a lot of things that would happen i just focused on what did you think what's next isn't it interesting like this is the thing that gets brought up all the time about fighting is that so much of it is mental, especially at the elite level, like at your level. but there's a bunch of hungry lions climbing up that hill to try to get to the king.
30:11 self-help books are you reading you know books to help your your mental fortitude to strengthen that And I wasn't the person that I am during those kinds of tribulations or trials in my life. Sign me the fuck up. luckily we have some good sponsors if you know able to be sponsored by that but we fight that's you did you get COVID in the were you in the middle of training when you got it like were
32:41 and then i had you think it was head injury i thought my uh my doctor you know he was taking my back so i was finished around and I was like, man, I just don't feel good. And I was nauseated for a few days. because you never gave your body a break and you were beating yourself up while you were fighting off covid well that i think what happened was the kidney
34:30 The reports from the specialist in Cleveland. what was going on. Cause I just needed to get in that octagon. I was like, dude, just put me in training before i flew out to the fight week to finally get my heart rate in like 35s like after I mean, I declared that I was on antibiotics all the way up to the fight. excited for especially watching the merino and figgy fight last fight um great fight you know awesome it was entertaining
37:20 in that fight davison really put himself on the line in terms of like he threw himself into the fire. when it comes down to the fight this dude is he's he's all in you know like the merced beck tick the sport though that a guy like you gotta know how much gas you got you gotta know when you can You know, Elkins. moved out here he had to go back he was still with ufc fighting and then part time he'd have
39:46 He's flying high. you had covid and then because of that you got covid really bad yes yeah so tell me what it was And they're like, hey, we want you to do another one. What did you do? I did a Z-Pak. Is that the PCR test? good like i felt it like i was that's when i started cycling a lot um so i was out there just I mean, it took over my body. One didn't happen.
43:22 infection jesus christ but so your body was obviously really good body felt good um clarity went away i actually had to go to i couldn't even do anything um so so that probably contributed to the vertigo for sure, right? I had vertigo from crystals being out of the air. vertigo. It was just literally COVID had, had me so messed up. So your body was so compromised from
45:48 this i was tired of living on a three fight skit i was ready to get back in there and when you know I mean, my coaches and stuff are like, oh, we don't know if we're going to make it. you knew that you had it when when are you free of it like this is the first test that i passed I'm not going to send out any more tests because there were 72-hour return ones.
47:25 getting it um but it wasn't as severe it was it was a couple months ago that she got it um two You know, because there's tough. It wouldn't be as, it took over my body. I can be around people because on the bike, I was just on the bike trail on the road, just suffering on the bike. tear, you know, deemed it that I'm like, fuck, I gotta call Dana and tell them like, Hey,
49:25 with blood thinners i was on i've been on blood thinners for you know since in the nation is blood clots because people don't know How do they know that you're okay? when you came back you tried to rip oh dude i was i was horny i was so horny I'm like, Oh, I got hill sprints. I'll go do hill sprints in the afternoon. Text my doctor. I'm like, So I learned a lot about health this year year from the kidney infection the blood clots and and
52:20 people does he advise you in that or is he just technique-oriented? You know what he harps on and brags about, and it's so funny from a boxer. So we go to train with those young, hungry college kids who are trying to fuck you up. And we all have wrestling backgrounds. That's when I rebuild my body, back, you know, everything that I need to do that's going to get torn down in fight.
53:59 worked with um danny and tj and joe so these these guys see new methods that we're doing and danny and fight them like yeah it's the cardio and the conditioning i think is uh it scares me dude i get I might, I'm probably going to throw up. And I didn't even know what fatigue was. was i didn't know what a fatigue was but i'm not going to be tired i'm not going to be a coward so
56:23 He goes, five times. into that well i've done defeated myself i've done pushed myself past this limits where i want to like i get better in the fight as i get tired i get sharper i feel when i'm when i'm you know putting the work in great shape of course um where sometimes it's good and sometimes back is the muscles around the back aren't conditioned to maintain posture maintain the training camp and then they give out and when
59:04 because you need to build your body in those back so have you ever seen that Yeah, we have one at the gym. That's another Louie Simmons. Yeah. those gravity boots, which are phenomenal. decompress what i like about that over even the the the regular teeter is that this one you're you're hinging from the hips two together are fucking phenomenal yeah i feel great i mean i'm gonna knock on this wood but uh that's good yeah did you do do you do any yoga or anything i do i do i mean we
1:02:06 It was just like, that ain't good. It loosens you up? needling too and um a lot of athletes like fast twitch athletes it it depletes them like it just a ton of water like staying hydrated was uh it's a huge thing stretching is a funny thing because holding on your feet and you stretch and it's like your hamstrings and your body's like just stop I mean, I'll go in and spar.
1:05:06 But I'm not taking those hard shots. like fuck i gotta fight i felt like I was over-trained. You're going to let yourself. Training-wise, you know, like I'll be done with a training session and they'll already know that it was a kickboxing workout. So the strap's cool. Yeah, because I feel like when I wear the chest chest strap but then you have it right in your sternum
1:07:37 but this is nice impact i don't know what what's what's in there i don't know what they're checking there's like a pair of gloves i would use the last two weeks of training camp so they'd already be broken into And I would just have them in my bag, and I'm like, these are broken in, not these ones His Onyx gloves, his MMA gloves are the, first of all, his boxing gloves,
1:10:01 fuck, I forget my hand wraps. hand is you want your hands want to extend. I'm all for that. Those are the pride gloves. Click on that. They are the shit. And they have the best protection for your hands, too. Yeah, it's a new year. And it was less in pride. Let's start it. I mean, look at, I don't know, well, well bisping i believe it was a kick that his eye up and then subsequent surgeries and you know
1:13:14 The headaches were crazy, man. where are you at now do they have anything lined up for you you're obviously you're clear covid now individually when i had the when i had the covid or you still had the symptoms um you know they Dude, we flew out here. I saw a lady with a double mask, a shield, and goggles, and gloves. No. I don't want to experience COVID again.
1:15:48 like everyone said that to me like oh you're world world athlete athlete like you should be able to a huge outbreak you know outspread of anything a handful here and there where we closed down for give me so much respect for people that have fought on antibiotics because I I'm being a bitch right now. I told him, hey, I'm ready. A lot of respect for him coming off a big
1:18:53 I've been saying April, and Ali talked to me yesterday and said, you know, maybe May. the title shot at 25, which they've having the title fight after you know whoever is declared winner and say Moreno's a striker take me down, I'm going to box that fool up It was great. I feel like I'm better, faster, stronger than him. He's done two or three camps at our gym, Team Alpha Male, brazilian connections that we have that fool's bigger than me yeah he's big he
1:21:37 You know, that's what we spoke about with Sean and then the UFC and Dana and Mick. Because he was just so depleted. For sure. That training lab that he works out with. Out of his garage. his workhorse you tell him you know here's what's on the agenda, you're going to do it. Is he with the PFL now? So they're juicing up their roster. It's a big fight.
1:24:10 want a champion and you know you have an organization you got to have a name for your It's catchy. You know what I mean? Do you ask for a tissue or do you ask for a Kleenex? No, that was great. I don't care how big the XFL is They branded that This weekend I'm flying to Vegas for the fights It's like UFC, you know. You have yourself there and everybody. It's Liddell's, Latito's.
1:25:58 I think both are great assets. there's no weakness there. That first combination that he threw at him. that fight after the fight they're testing they go you got a broken nose he's like yeah i had that and they train together. But you also know tendencies, you know, You want to be the top shark. And, you know, I feel like we've both probably hopefully grown from there.
1:29:14 But you didn't cheat I didn't cheat but I fell off right but there's a difference, right? know and just now got tested for you know you saw it as great you know all for testing but and blood and then it stopped with the phlebotomist coming and giving the blood it was just urine i'm You don't think a doctor's out there in the world that's going to help?
1:31:38 guy is super informed to check him out very very intelligent and it like i sent it to shop i go And he's like, no, you fucking 100% for sure can still cheat. No kidding. did blood after and a urine but i didn't test it from usada so why do we have to do these three years who tj willingly knew that he was doing epo the only way to do epo is inject it
1:33:30 He's got his meals. good but i've had some of the other stuff and like you just your body's like what is this get And then you add water to them Yeah, and he's always working on it. Awesome. He was in New Zealand for, like, a 16-day exploration with his father, And just built like a fucking turtle, dude, to get in on, man. like you know i've seen him he's got on his instagram taking people tuna fishing he's taking people like bird hunting he's like he's always
1:36:43 was able to do um and he's selling out like crazy, too. I think that's what it's called. Oh, forever. Yeah, and he's had over 20 fights in the UFC. I'm just running. yeah i mean just like you can take damage and like some people get you know knocked out and they're like last time i did that i went open sea fishing you fishing. Danny is really big into fishing. Is he?
1:38:57 Oh, you get seasick? I remember him speaking about that because we had a couple of friends come from Alaska. They open that damn thing up. to camp i love it because he's got a good playlist he he he puts the phone jack in he got what does Nice. remember chad saying like oh man i don't really have to fight clay you know we look up to him you showing our martial arts and sharing with people and helping them out. obviously going to see in the world once you know covet opens up
1:41:42 was so just like oh i can't do this i can't do that i'm just stuck to this training but you have to break it up you know you have to um do you have hobbies outside of fighting oh man hobbies um obviously not My uncle is a great trainer, but he's a horrible coach. He'd tape my fucking hand in my head and just work on my jab. interesting how many different approaches there are to training and how many different trainers
1:44:35 It's interesting how camps and different groups of people sort of take on a persona, before i would even throw it or do it and he would it was crazy and i was just new on i would are you going to, I just was like waiting to go out there. um, duane and sean mcfadden and those guys uh the colorado connection um so yeah he i i knew that Yeah, it's great.
1:47:10 them you know like be a potential fight like the kid a lot um could be a potential fight in there Pure Ayan. There's these unanswered, unknown questions, unanswered questions you know will get solved in the fight that's a great thing about You know, Joe, when you're feeling it and you have this drive back, you know a lot of shit going on in my career that i'm worked for and and used opportunities and
1:49:34 inside of training camp i love what it it's it's blinders you're just focused focus focus focus three six you know 360 sweep with the leg um i feel like it's it gets me out of range i can't It's crazy. But he didn't have the same effectiveness. I mean, Conor was done. chopped up you're gonna have to fight southpaw. And I feel like I'm adapting very well, speed, kicks, combos with both sides.
1:52:25 Everything's backwards and he's lighting you up. He could do whatever the fuck he wanted to. It's blinding. Yeah. Like this is just automatic, but this is like. I should honestly probably be a southpaw fighter really um i wrestle Boom, double leg open. Yeah, check that out. footage of my fights he goes all your knockouts were inside shots you don't have to wind up you
1:55:44 it's gonna change my life and sure shit as it did you know i mean obviously you know fights fights fights but He's a gangster. Dude, he was popping, hitting his shots, Well, that was another fight where Max didn't spar at all. the head like that little placement saves you well uh my friend kevin ross had a an instagram post Yeah. get a more realistic understanding of placement of you know where you're gonna be when you yeah
1:58:36 fighters that are coming from wrestling or not a boxing backgrounds or striking Like, I have fun. So you have that urgency. or retire hopefully you'll be the champ then right like do you do all these variables but yes do you because i've known what to do how to pull back how to train how to recover right um you know tear my body down i want to give myself every opportunity to go in there and fight and level
2:01:50 even hit my prime i feel like i'm just getting my um style of fighting together my coaches and my I'm sitting in a good spot Always a pleasure.