Joe Rogan Experience #10102 — Dustin Poirier Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day fucking who's who a murderer's row of the 155 pound division i mean you earned it i mean you Connor. You just keep getting better you just And also like being at the brink a couple of times. couldn't walk i couldn't walk for a few days wow yeah i remember that fight because i remember

3:02 But we were talking recently about Anderson Silva. but it could be that, or it could be some guys just don't know how to lose. Learning how to lose because there's some guys that for whatever reason, Yeah. is remaining a student. And these guys who get to that pinnacle and stay there for a while, Now my fights are bigger. Like this Saturday I'm going to Mississippi.

5:29 Crazy Tim. Yeah, he was a Machado guy. So, Rodrigo Medeiros under Carlson Gracie. and then started choking these Cajuns out, man. Remember? Good dude. And it's growing so much, but it's still a small circle. no classes being run there i just rent out a warehouse space that i ever last helped me Like when you take your training partners, how are you?

8:15 and uh my kickboxing i kind of do with the with the students we just work stuff back and forth a enough i kind of self-regulate throughout camp but mike brown puts down the meat and potatoes of uh I think, a little bit early. and helping me plan everything. so i threw a cross from my backhand that clipped him good and that's when he took the step back

10:55 and it doesn't take as much commitment you know a thigh kick you're turning your hips over I'd have to go over some fights. I can't think of a single technique that revolutionized the sport that way. There's no meat. you know we had three more rounds 15 more minutes of me chopping that leg yeah if we do it again notice and i just won a fight before and it was right around christmas so i was eating and when

13:34 Oh, my God. I don't know. I mean, that kept DC out of the Olympics. stopped doing distilled water i do drink a lot of water we water load we do like three gallons wrestler that came to mma camps and figured it out like who who figured out how to do that i i have One of the things that we were talking about was when you were fighting Conor, your fucking back looks huge.

16:06 recently it was andre yule andre yule has these crazy long arms he had like a seven inch reach With a good jab. And that's MMA. division for a while it's been very top heavy um and it's taken forever for this thing to play out olivera is definitely up there with for a title shot man he's been around a long time and put some Yeah. You know what's on the line, so it's just a lot of pressure so uh just it being a little bit more calm for me was was was smooth sailing man you know because it's already hectic enough i say the same thing about

19:39 amount of shit that he caused in the khabib fight. I mean, realizing at the end of it, I mean, that was flying it's like he had done so much and fucked up so much throwing energy cans at press in his own head yeah he seemed compared to what i what i'd seen from aldo in the past Well, there's so much mental involved. before you even sit down and do the interview you know the gets redundant and it's aggravating. You know, before you even sit down

22:14 and change it up I don't know how much Right. So it was all mostly from my computer. know that shit that seems like you have to have so much more money than the yacht cost to enjoy all year round yeah so you're paying a staff salary they live on it it's their house you just That is a different thing. Fighting, you have to stay hungry, like stay humble, you know, like Rocky III style.

25:03 He does. He won. No. And with his fucking pants on, Yeah. to do something that's never been done maybe that's the driving factor now you know because But he's made so much, man. but apparently yeah Jamie you know the A new date's coming soon. I've never seen the other guy in person. He doesn't give a shit, man. Like smiling like he knew what he was going to do.

28:55 No. I think I've ever seen. He set this dude up with this very, he set him up. I forget what the setup was, but he hit him with this wild spinning back kick to the face It sucks that people only know him It's a wild dude, man. Right. I think he beat Kyoji But he was 25. It would have to be like a long... Yeah. And if you think about guys like Usman, like say if you went up to 170.

32:29 He looked like he was about 210, 215 pounds, and he's fighting 185. Yeah. Submitted him, right? I'd like to know what he walks around at. came velasquez as a heavyweight when he was in his prime to me was the most impressive be so you're not standing across a guy weighing 30 40 pounds more than you do you think there or they just carry the belts over?

35:30 They changed it to 205. Yeah. Dude, Luke Rockhold's so big. When I him at well no he 185 I couldn't believe it But you see Yoel sitting there Yeah waiting for him to slow down like he doesn't slow down i don't see any i mean he's lost some fights but those look at let's look at the fights that yoel's lost okay second fight with robert whittaker Then you gotta think about his

37:56 and he's playing this weird game where he just wants to stand there Bro, he might be better. I wanna say And this is when Damn They do not. When do you not get tested at the weigh-ins? here just get the fuck out of here most of the time it's post fight when you get back to your No. I'm not sure. They might – I don't. So do they have their own commission? I'm not sure.

40:16 I'm like, man. the cleaning up the sport i don't like waking up athletes when they need their sleep sleep is so in six to eight hours so if you did go to bed at midnight and you knew that you're gonna get tested Do they always take blood as well? people you know yeah and you've seen some physiques melt. Have you? in a gigantic way. It's like you drive by it.

43:20 He's a great guy. developed that the clear that they use for barry bonds they had this undetectable steroid they Yeah. morning because he had that endurance but you know for a guy like tj i guess i i read an interview recently where he's I mean, he made it. Yeah. You think that fight's interesting? And I did. It wasn't round anymore. Yeah. process then huh yeah and it was after right after the

48:27 So you used the time wisely. becoming a better and just watch fights. thing that shit's annoying i had to sleep in that for like maybe six weeks How long did you wait before you trained hard again? Yeah, and it was sore for a while, even after the surgery, like when everything was supposed to be healed. I'd like to stand on it that long, yeah. That's crazy, and you were fighting like that. Yeah kicking people and shit i couldn't run like so for that before

51:25 a couple weeks after it was at eight months that's not that long for a severe injury like that They put it next to like a ruler so you can really get a scale of how big it was, how big the pieces were. More than that, dude. September. I actually have a... Okay, let me airdrop this. I can't get it to my computer. It's the bottom one. that's that thing in my stomach so i had an epidural line in my back

54:40 It looks like a handful, like a solid handful of pebbles. Yeah? Because it's going to get smashed. No? I get it. does your wife have an android uh iphone oh that's a problem i've tried i can't i can't get it you Yeah. You got that? There you go. And this is the worst Samsung advertisement of all time. Oh, you're saving it. And, Jamie, the moment it comes to me could be within the hour.

58:48 I noticed my wife and her friends, when they send pics, it stays clear. No worries, bro. That is fucking crazy. Yeah. It was just the bone growth. it turned out i was still in a lot of pain you know did it help in the beginning and then Where did you get the stem cells done? But still, it wouldn't have reshaped the head of my... Wow. they're not showing any like real significant problems from people using it,

1:03:11 Yeah. And beginning of every training camp, my strengthening coach, Phil DeRue, kind of gets a base. A student. your standard cardio stuff we do a lot of aerodyne stuff i do a lot of swimming myself and then i use and everybody's different. And so when you said that he does stuff to keep your body healthy, My neck's fine. But nothing serious. You stack, it's like, you know, free weights.

1:06:02 I'll get one sent to you. Of course. pulling back, your neck disconnected from your body, it's going to take all of that spin and Now I only do five weeks every camp, and I don't spar. He looked amazing, man. You need to be— I won't stop, but I have moved it to five weeks. And our genetics are different. they can just fight their whole career and they're fine. I meanesus christ alistair over him has been fighting forever i mean he's

1:09:36 They're just getting their timing down and moving light. right but if we're doing mma stuff it's fighters who i know and they have experience i can trust and change it from Fight Island to Guillotine Island. Oh, my God. I'm going to get you. yeah that was at on fight island i i jumped up and i gripped the corners of the chair but oh shit and where it needed to be for me to stay up with his foot trips and uh it's hard to explain man but

1:13:06 but even then fuck he gets through and then moves right to mount and then the Guy drives around in a Toyota pickup truck. No, he's a beautiful person and just a great example of a champion, you know? Dude, he's prime time. really stunned him yeah 29 you know got away pretty amazing yeah but the longer you stay How many people are going to look at that like, hey, that game team was fucking tight. Yeah. You know? How many people are going to look at the moments that he's had or maybe he had some vulnerability

1:15:19 How the fuck does that dude ever make 155? Wait a minute. He's so happy and positive. he's got to be pushing 40 right 37 yeah it's hard man you know you're it's a crazy sport you're 32. years six years and still have a whole career after that right so i'm just trying to you know be smart with it i have a family and but i love fighting i hate the process at this

1:18:04 the connor fight i used to read everything and thought about every comment and stuff. talk about what a loser you are the type of people that are doing that they're not fulfilled in their A lot of that is. I can only imagine. Yeah, but it's wise that you've you've figured that out and that you avoid it now yeah try my me right he hates himself that's the problem they don't really yeah and they also they're trying to

1:20:30 manliest of things you know you're a fucking fighter and you see the comments like i've i i Well, if you use your number to buy things or if you use your number to- And he filmed it? God. he's had some back issues and i guess he's got those squared away because if if he's healthy uh, the guy's dead, Yeah. Look how bad this guy is. He's so powerful and explosive like when

1:24:13 Right. People don't give him credit. That was a weird motion by Blades, too. Boom! like Francis versus Alistair Overeem. Rosenstreich KO'd him horribly. again that's like a big if to get past stipe i mean stipe is the only guy who's been able to Yeah. In the pocket, from the clinch. Man, that's not good for you. That was a crazy back and forth fight.

1:27:44 like that but the symptoms the next day me and now and i wasn't out out or anything like that but a good idea i don't know if that's a career. It might be. Put it on YouTube, let it grow, and then sell it somewhere. i've always been interested in real estate as well um but i don't know i don't want to i don't I do dumb stuff. It makes sense. You know, some people are just built for high pressure situations.

1:31:08 We need to have a special, because there's been a bunch of people that come in and say they like cooking. I get down in the kitchen, yeah. And get all your prep in advance If I had it I'd wear it yeah add a little of this a little of that yeah and i enjoy that dude getting all the stuff for I work with Lockhart. And that way I'm not eating salmon every,

1:33:36 I don't, You sweat so much. Yeah, usually like five or six. I do like active recovery stuff between. get ready for this fight so it's oh it's saying you're not recovered enough I'm not recovered enough, but I got to go to the gym and work. I got to go train. I can't afford to do that. So you had it and beat it, and you didn't even know. I'm never really off.

1:36:39 right that's where the loot and that's that's pretty much it we're just trying to get the Yeah. kind of stoppage yeah it was exhaustion and overwhelmed with punches no you you wrecked him at the apex Florida doesn't give a fuck in Florida sell tickets or whatever but yeah we just went to abu dhabi so i'm thinking like if me and connor That governor doesn't give a fuck.

1:39:10 Like how, what is the conversation like when something like this happens? and have a legit conversation That seems so soon for a bad KO like that. and you're riding high right now. I'm the only other guy to ever fight in the UFC under the Thug Jitsu banner. ifs ands or buts do you think it makes sense though for you to be fighting con fighting for the title. No ifs, ands, or buts. Do you think it makes sense, though, for you to be fighting Conor for the title?

1:41:19 How could you justify doing that when you have guys like Oliveira? I think it's going to be something soon because we've got to keep it moving. But when he broke down Conor's heavy weight on the right leg he leans in like this all the time he puts a lot of weight on that right leg when he paused in that southpaw stance and Great countering. Like, this isn't the same fight.

1:43:49 it yeah it just happened just natural yeah what did you say to him at the end of the first round that have said those words together how did you like that clavicle right yeah that's not a that's Because when he started hitting me with them i'll probably walk around heavier than him do you feel like now after that first fight that you got June, July.

1:46:18 If they call, I will do it, but I'd rather it be a little bit further. And obviously, I mean, honestly, it's not a lot of time to adjust and work on what he needs to work on for the calf kick or what I want to switch up. I'm not having fun and exploring different things. All the time. But that's from just having fun and you know fighting now when you look at your career you've

1:48:25 You know, I don't think it was Dream. Southpaw, just always entertaining fights. where Eddie was in the UFC in the same division, There's a lot of talk about him fighting for the title soon. right but i just feel like he needs to cut you know and i respect the guy and he's a great fighter one guy's fight away from a title shot. guys that are interesting to you are nate and olivera olivera for the title and just you know

1:51:14 that I fought in three different weight classes in the UFC. But I can maintain 55 for the rest Like you said, what am I doing next? I would love to commentate or get an opportunity to sit up at before the ufc called and offered me this like step sit-in gig as a commentator to see how I did. fantastic. He's so good at breaking things down. I would love to for

1:54:14 in fighting um i feel like i have a lot to to teach young fighters yeah just from from bouncing I'm very proud of, but I'm not trying to be a role model The first Conor McGregor loss was a big one, but my loss to Michael Johnson was painful, man. realized I got two or three more fights to put myself back in that title position being in position when receiving a shot.

1:56:56 unfold and not just come out because before i would come out like a like a drag racer i would focusing on defense do you think in some ways that fight was actually important for your future I mean, that war that he got in with Justin Gaethje, he had Justin in all kinds of trouble. fight um in the later rounds, you know. From inside leg kicks. Oh, okay.

1:59:37 So that was hard to get the range of motion back. be the most exciting fighter in the sport and i'm gonna win some and when i lose i'm gonna get It looked like the pressure, too, gassed Justin a little bit. There's no fucking way that nose works. I don't know what's going on with that. that's what i would make i think that is the fight to make and justin's one fight remove you know

2:02:29 Yeah, pulling in his boat. Even though I beat a current champ, or at the time he was a current champ, Fight for the title versus Oliveira, rematch versus Conor. You're going to fight for the title again. The fact that he stops you in the first fight, you stop him in the second fight. And have that shit in a giant arena in florida i'm in i'll sign the

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