Joe Rogan Experience #10103 — Max Holloway Transcript

Transcript

0:00 the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day And basically, like, once a year you get a little bit of rain and that's it. I was tripping out. I thought I was wrong. The black ice. chilled i know the hotel that i was at when i first came in, I was just tripping out because, like, I came from L.A. and Hawaii. I was like, is this real life, you know? And then I talked to the guy at the front desk. And like what i was like is this real life you know and

2:54 it was two hours for for room service and four seasons is usually the best ever yeah exactly they've never seen anything like it. Let's just go down. And I talk about the two-football field bunker underneath your house wherever you live, right? What is that show? I have some of that stuff that's in my house too. I watch all the stuff you be doing. oh nice they found 63 of them frozen to death on his uh ranch So far. They're still finding him.

6:00 And I was like, holy shit. See how it's poked through? No, no. They can be frozen, and then a week later, you unfreeze them, and they're alive. Yeah. And then one of them said to me, Max, get the hell away from there. I don't think a lot. It's called a wood frog, if that helps. looks like an alien and they can survive in space they can survive anywhere so these things they

9:27 Look at that fucking thing. That's a real I don't know. I don't know. Because that was the thought that they could, like, and that asteroids contained the building blocks like amino acids and stuff the building blocks Like pigs and a lot of weird birds and a lot of weird rodents and plants and all kinds of shit. Yeah. But it's like a wallaby, bro. them people could be bullshitting but i'm like i'm not gonna put it past that i saw more crazier

12:11 On a wild one? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, she was sleeping in the bed with this chimp wait wait wait what kind of relationship yeah that's what i'm That's wild. Like, you see what the scientists are doing with these chimps or gorillas or whatever they do, you know. Like, come on, guys.

13:55 Scream the chimp's owner. different than other animals that they know what you like they know that you I know. robots and shit but what is it to do is just you just fucking start breeding crazy silverbacks and You got to just give in to the network. He's going to start the war. to your mind he's gonna be able like you and I could sit here. Yeah. Yeah,

16:22 he's something else. What is this? speed internet to the whole world yeah then he's got spacex he's flying rockets and the boosters And then he got like, he got all kind of. he's saying is essentially you could have a bachelor's education a bachelor's degree and like he was like a valedictorian. come on bro what are you doing some people panic yeah and then they when you panic your brain don't

19:15 and it didn't make any sense like you would roll with him and he would just have his way with because like you know some people some real fighters can't like you know some guys they're your cheerleading ass i'm gonna like this is a fight you know what i mean like that's i always Had like 10 sheiks right there. the world on paper yeah because there's some guys you know let's go look at el chapo's stuff you

22:08 he's like that's not what you do the smart guys they stay low-key yeah I know like these motherfuckers are way richer than anybody else. So they're just running in the cage. they put together the first fight in florida you know the the the first event with no audience i'm Go make your name. did it safe i mean you gotta in anything in any in sport or even in business gotta be a guy who's

25:19 that's crazy yeah i was reading some article about that did you read about that jamie apple playing video games i was just acting about when you're playing video games. And then being who I am and what I do, I get to play with some big-time players. Tim the Tap Man. And they just trip out like, oh, you playing with these guys? But they like to gas me up.

27:14 your mind to it, I think, you know? that kind of shit this game is so fun oh is it cheats yeah bro people fucking fucking jackie chan's and bruce lee's there's always a problem with funniest game uh how to catch cheaters like you go around a corner you start start shooting like just keeps like doing an animation where it just fucks with you in the games.

29:11 yeah. Imagine getting in a gunfight and you can just drop your weapon. game is cool it's about some scientists that are they're doing this experiment they open up a portal And Half-Life 3 has not come out yet. Yeah, you played Quake. It was hard. and we were playing five hours a fucking day and it became a real problem hey babe um today we're Yeah, and then you start, I don't know.

31:06 you're playing this game my heart would be racing after this game I was like, why? That's why you got so good at fighting. and he goes no no no he goes i'm addicted he goes just like you bj and then bj said oh shit then i realized like i'm a So the funniest one is like, you fucking cheater. But I kind of like it when you don't hear them. Oh, people get so salty in it.

33:37 It's so funny. is going to send me it's not a ad and I replied to them Look at Dana. And maybe micro dosing something. Oh yeah Yeah he boxed a lot I don't know. No, no, it was going to be a boxing match. Do you not see... He's fighting a beast. take the one point whatever it is take the one point, whatever it is. Just, it's... I don't mean to. what are you gonna do hey he took it most guys would be like i ain't not standing up with me

37:33 That's all they're thinking. Like, look at that. That was scary shit. like Derrick Lewis like Derrick Lewis like look at that Terrence Crawford T-Bud is so complex Really? I think if, I think knockout, it's all Lopez. So much. And he did his thing, man. Every time he steps in there, he looks like three, four times the size of the guy. He's dangerous deep into the 12th round.

40:19 He's a beast. Not even in his prime. That was crazy. You keep getting better. but qatar is the one that was like uh like he actually said the age thing you know i didn't It was funny because when I was sitting down, I was like, okay. pointing over to the ufc matchmakers like i'm the best boxer in mma and he's throwing punches at you I was like, what?

43:19 And then that one. I was like, holy shit, that's pretty cool. Everybody's like, oh, somebody did this much let them think it's 50 50 chance A lot of people did think you were lying. like fuck i can't be getting arrested before my fight some crazy shit so we did we did that i And I had weights and stuff. someplace that he had a little spot for us in his garage and that's what i would go you know

46:09 Depends on who it is. So he had the antibodies. that that flight is not fun i don't think i don't think the disease would fuck with you i think it's So he was training for a fight. So he just like Just beating himself up. Because he's so. visualize or even just think of think of new new ways to move or uh i i got to think of ways to set well, this is how he moves.

49:00 they say like, points where everything happens or even fights like I fought injured. Because right now, I'd say at least 85% to 87% or even close to 91% of the UFC fighters, you don't have to. And then we practice it. to replicate somebody when we're sparring hard because i would spar hard with them and then good your performance is because yeah i thought yeah i thought calvin was and it takes two and i

51:48 I think so like like I was like getting punched some more my friend we're gonna we're gonna do this no he's tough as fuck man just do it but then you know at the end of the day it's like it's not my job you know i can't He's a puncher puncher. i want to fight you know like even like even my way with even like even championships you know We just go on to someone wins the fight.

54:36 That's the way I think because it's just perception. Yeah. 1FC? quit i don't care i don't care what round it is is this i ain't giving up before you i know that you know i mean you better clip my ass and I would spar and I'd be like nah I ain't I ain't finishing on this fucking round and then we go to People don't understand. If you look at the numbers landed in fights, and that fight in particular,

57:36 workouts like this and that i like i always think i was like i could tell you guys my workout i could And then you get pushed past that And that's what it is. There's so many stuff. I'm dying and this and that. And he somehow finds me. you know thank you for everything but she's the one that pulls up with most of my shit man like understand what time is you know i mean like i'm taking away time from my coaches and their family

1:01:01 And that's what it is. and people don't understand that they're like what the fuck you know like every time i tell them that you know how much times i miss out on times where like even before this last fight i was there for than what it usually is, Well, both of them are connected, right? professional sport players they come to uh they come and train with us sometimes and then

1:03:48 And then he said, but now he's in fight camp. You guys tell me wrong thing. Full commitment. And he somehow came back from it. He's an animal. But you know that you have a real dangerous killer in front first thing i yell to him is count it up i don't count it up because like i'm gonna keep punching I'm looking at them. What? Like. And you missed. I'm the best boxer.

1:07:20 And all these athletes, they strive for it, especially this stuff where they talk about that one moment, this and that, and everything slowed down. The concern about a fight like that is boxing. I don't know if MMA you can recall, but I'm sure there's boxing fights where you watch, He never, ever fought the same. same again he got beaten up in that fight so bad julio cesar chavez just kept ripping to the body

1:09:18 They're different, different over there. That's what we said. you know, You don't want to get one of them. But I would take them. I get it. nah, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? He learned a lot from that fight. it all played it all played into his game like thank god in his own game too you know so i was like man this guy this guy did some homework yeah i mean

1:13:31 Jumped it, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's old school, you know? Do you train in the Gi at all? Oh, yeah. All right, man. because that's when freak accidents happen. And they would compete against each other, and he got caught in, you know, an ashi position where his leg was. maybe maybe after maybe after my career is done my fighting career done i do some jiu-jitsu i love

1:16:16 They want the best for me. guys is like you know like i you know like i i like to be like we especially for mma fighters They're, like, they're fucking wild. I mean, it's crazy because like every fight to today, even before the Kelvin fight, every single fight, And I'm just in there. Do you still do that to yourself? Oh, is there? what it is, and I know

1:18:57 good you definitely wouldn't feel as good if you won right there's part of the relief yeah getting And we was coming to a conclusion. I don't got that thing. i was like fuck you're right you know i mean like i'm a fucking jackass you know like you put your And you also look at someone and go, why them? You know, because you can, you know, but it's just.

1:21:23 I know a bunch of people that if i had those opportunities i would did it motherfucker you had the same you had more And I was able to figure it out. oh, why am I not blowing up like that? i've seen those guys that are streamers that are really successful and they're never offline And I was like, oh, I don't know. on a fucking nobody's putting on a fucking shitty ass day you know i mean like the top guys the

1:25:13 catfish you see these guys in in real life you see some of these people they look like Yeah, and that's sad, man. You know what I mean? I mean, you know how fighting is. You take care of everybody after us, you know. You're not scared of sharks? after breaking an entry because we're in there. That'd be the move, right? Straight at it, yeah, with a spear gun.

1:27:54 That thing was moving in for a bite. Yeah. And he just unloads it. Wow. eating that thing I'll eat his fucking brain. I'm going to eat everything. I'm here for it. and then i sat there with my my my bow dialed into 25 yards just waiting for a coyote to come in One time, my daughter at the time was only six, and I was ready. She cock-blocked me. I was out there for days.

1:31:13 Oh, yeah, they will. They're literally wolves. They don't fuck around, man. I was going to eat them. That's no fun. Yeah, it would have been easy. Not at all. You know what's interesting about you and your camp there? It's like most champions, most of them, come from big camps. too so they got they gotta understand you know some of them only one of them i think only my

1:34:32 know my interim title and i mean you know but the only reason why i got him because um at dc we was nine straight. top team or a lot of these camps or is the best way have one dude that you have a bunch of really got all kind of stuff like it just kept when you just have that much of in a room of the just smart Charles Olivera. but he was with Matt Hume.

1:37:04 Yeah. Yeah. Not really, you know? but it's like what can you do a little bit differently you know but mixed martial arts is the perfect positions for for certain deals and you're there you know like that's it like you You know, like smash you. Right. connor like look like he used his wrestling a little bit and then he kind of used it backwards just like i said we just i got we got doctors now we got people who actually like focus on that kind

1:41:41 big i used to get 190 i used i used to get big. 190? I used to get big. 195? I wouldn't step on the scale. Six days. You know what it was And then they tell me every single fucking day Like, we just finally is in New York. And we have, like, hours left before the weigh-ins do yet. I wasn't fighting. and we just had it all set up, man, and then, uh, and then just to have that was just, and you're fighting, it's not even that, you know, the family stuff, they understand it, you know, that's how it

1:44:46 Khabib ever had I got him talking. we're going to fucking do this Oh yeah, says i'm gonna smash you you know that's all he sees it and he was talking back to me he's like on what and they said they didn't like the way you look and i said what the fuck are you talking about You know what I mean? Yeah, not that bad at all. That's one of the things that Lockhart explained to me that I was pretty shocked by.

1:47:09 went up to 55 what were you walking around like when you fought Dustin I was I was just like I and that was just was just one of those things was like they came up with offers i did it and then Yeah, I would like to do a little bit of strength training. do it you know i just i just think so if i had that that extra time to actually just uh uh be really fully commit to certain stuff i know i can do it you know if i could be polynesian you see

1:49:29 you know what I mean large human beings not really big and thick, you know. Fast twitch. What the fuck is this guy? Like, people don't know what the fuck crazy land is. fuck crazy land they're crazy a championship fighter like the And then from 15 to 10, the only difference between those guys is mental. the difference what is the difference i i believe it's it's that passport crazy land it's that

1:52:48 shit all the time there's all-stars in the towns whatever then they go to the other stuff and then yeah some of the toughest guys are younger brothers of tough guys oh yes oh because you gotta take the shit yeah so like even like when even when i fight with my younger brother he would beat me because he's like Oh cool. Like Max don't fight. play with our friends it's like there's a place on our street where we couldn't pass and my grandpa

1:55:12 Grandpa's not going to be there. What are you talking about Like But he got into his trouble and stuff, but he's recently, like, he's been out, he's been clean, he's been doing his thing. making everything right that's great advice that you still have time and then always you're alive you earn it i'm gonna i'm gonna you're gonna do it like show me that you changed and show the people

1:57:25 I mean, you see it not even on the negative side. You know what I mean? You just got to focus. Like, no, you're going to do it, bro. what i'm gonna build myself right back up you know everybody keeps saying this and that about my last fucking talk to cool fucking people like Elon Musk and shit. You know what I mean? Imagine if you put a – people, I guess, will cap themselves.

1:59:39 But that's what makes you a champion. living today like yeah he thought yeah he don't he didn't want us to play any sports he wanted us Like, he's one of those guys, not going to help you later on, you know? He'd be probably shitting. like for stuff and she was like yeah but well how you gonna pay for college because i don't have no letting nobody tell me i can't do or or i also the native part i see people tell them like or

2:02:32 And I used to be like, fuck, if I could just run faster, if I could just jump higher. The reason why I went high school baseball. You know like he put his hands in And the right steps you make Like, fuck, I want to like, not only make it out of Waianae, but I want to fucking move back to Waianae i live here and show guys and be like bro if i can do it if max holloway fucking tree down the line shot

2:04:29 nine years uh seven years later ufc champ this and that all of them asking all them telling me now oh Friday night, they all sitting around drinking beers Talking to each other Being like What the fuck I did in high school Actually uncle why not you it's not even people you know the one thing that I told Teddy to him, like, it's not where you train.

2:06:30 and then they start blaming people and i always wanted to tell myself i was like fuck no i ain't try that and they don't they don't try it and i'm like motherfucker like i did it i went i went i'm Maybe you got to let them go through that because I needed that. attacking your ass yeah some people have to learn from their own mistake and that's the only way

2:08:42 You need those things. or something like that at that level like me about it and i thought it was a crazy shit but he's like poor and stuff and he fucking built this can thing that he lined it You put that on, you feel like you're ready to go 10 more rounds. We have a whole rack of them out here. And I laid it and put it on the ground and rolled it on my back.

2:10:48 I don't know. Oh, like DC? Reaching for shampoo in the shower. Who knows? Yeah, it is weird, man. pump thing and then it's that it's a big tube one. You're in that thing, you know? so those things are very loud in in that thing i don't know how you can fall asleep in there during the main cards. Cowboy fought, You know what I mean? and whatever you like.

2:13:56 sometimes after training because like i just so focused or even like playing video games like i'm go right this guy this guy could go left right up down like i fucking i got a jump shot drop shot some guys that play controller that's just like neck and neck so jamie what do you think that's little kids playing and fucking them up they can do things

2:15:51 I ain't thinking of nothing, yeah. You probably haven't either. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He holds the controller like this. a controller with extra buttons oh okay so these are for people who don't use the extra buttons schools like they're doing the armbar and shit and they're like going from step one to step six teach them the right way so it's always hard but if you just get a blank paper and you tell them

2:19:03 That 1,000 reps get caught up. Especially guys that keep their head up in the air and their chin reps in the wrong way that's all the reps get caught up you know especially I don't want to have to do nothing about it. like frick i don't i don't want to be a part of the game you know it's like you know like colby you know like when he wanted You know what I mean?

2:21:11 fuck this is but it's the same thing as training yeah if you went back to me in 2009 when i first can have that and then and then it's like dummies like i put 11 years of work out there this is what What the fuck is that? wow i waited on friday the same day as one of my fights but that's when you walked around the way like, I knew I wanted to fight, but I also, I didn't have money,

2:23:49 these things so they can become pro. if you're over here like oh and a hundred i'd be like oh brother you know i mean let's have a talk I'd train once or twice a week. And then most of these motherfuckers just look like, they just look like, you know, And you punked the wrong around town so whoops you know i mean like you try to go over there trying to be like the man that doesn't help and then you got a viral

2:26:46 Ducks under. He's got him wrapped up. Watch this one here. Yeah. He's choking him out with his own sleeve. That is so sick. I don't like when people get beat up, You got to live with that. But leave people alone, man. i'm there all the time so it's fine you know i mean like it's normal yeah it's really fine you It's most of the time that people who's coming in and they see us out.

2:30:06 they kind of yeah it's super cool so I'm driving to color in the world it's like a matte and fucking trying to do pop-a-wheelies next to them, I'm like, okay, don't fall in the middle of the road yes change the culture change and that's what we try to do like this is what i want and then and i just always wanted to be the person like i remember And then same thing where I'm from.

2:32:45 he still lives here you know, the next, That's just what happens. Those are massive lessons for a young kid And I would tell them, I used to sit right there and i i would tell them i used to sit counselor and i told him look one thing that you guys can see is it's back to not it's not how you For pass, yeah. I had fucking great teachers. And then I had a

2:36:14 You know what I mean? practice started four we ended like six or seven and then you gotta go sleep by like nine o'clock faster you know it's uh it can be great but it also can be a fucking pain in the ass at times and so you do you know like uh i mean who would like who would want to fucking be like okay i'm I don't think so. I love when people just achieve a new level.

2:39:12 coming from someone like you my man so thank you for