Joe Rogan Experience #10113 — Chad Mendes Transcript
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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience alright this this table needed a little seasoning needed some color I'm throwing My wife's about to kill me, but we got some shit going what you're working too much you've been focusing your whole life in one way. And now all of a sudden, and for a lot of fighters, until you're in the, once you're around 40, people start going, man.
3:08 I want to say he might have been, it was 34 or 35 with his first UFC fight. and then he fought guy and guy tapped him out guy caught him in a guillotine yep i remember He would have been like turning 34 that year. when did he retire from the ufc i thought he was like 43 or 40 man i mean he fought leota machida April 30, 2011. He was 48. Yeah. Yeah, he's 48 when he long so he's 48 yeah that's wild
5:22 that's insane I'm like, Dan, I could give you like 50 other things you can do that's a good workout that I like look at his hands sometimes and I'll's in pain, he would never tell you. He's got cauliflower hands. He's not. and watched a bunch of those highlights from a lot of those fights uh we were over at my buddy Yeah, I remember him talking about that.
8:09 Yeah, people were pissed. You know, Francis Ngannou had a very good point the other day that there should be some protection for fighters because, you know, losing half of your purse because someone made a bad call. They can't find anybody to fill in, and now your fight doesn't happen. Then you're a year and a half out. I saw the videos. yeah it's the ground yeah that's it
10:42 And I see everybody's point. How engaging are you, your personality? And that's what this game is all about. Of all time. And, you know, I don't think he moved the needle at all, you know, Just go in there I know You can be the second smallest and we knew it was a 50-50 chance that, you know, whether he had broken hands or something, I don't, I think, I think he said it's a three-month recovery, but.
13:24 He was. He didn't tell me what it was from. But I do know I talked to TJ like a week before the fight and he was like, man, this is probably Walking around like when they were filming him not even the day he was making weight It was the best I had ever felt. Yeah. Everybody he fights, they're all big people. career. You'd probably have less injuries.
16:10 I agree That big I'll bring a fucking scale I mean, I walked around, you know, when I was making weight consistently and training consistently, you know, two two sometimes even three times a day Look at you. Well, the funny thing is that's what everybody likes. Isn't it crazy, though? after because even my entire career I mean I would try to have the same things that I would eat but
18:57 so counterproductive it's counterintuitive like 24 hours before literally one of the most dangerous I asked them for some advice here and there from time to time, but God, I can't remember this dude. through any of my fights before that. You never used any like Dolce or any of those guys? I never did. And there was like natural diuretics that you use.
20:10 He looks great at 35. feel like shit when it's happening but you're shrinking up and then once you get to that point over his life you know and he's just made it more and more focused as he's gotten older and Yeah. I'm doing some boxing training. It's got me interviewing Goggins' feet. It's so ridiculous. But these feet, this is what happens when you run the kind of miles that Goggins runs.
23:10 Dude, no. Yeah, look at that. He's got to get a saw to cut through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on? I'm coming back to boxing, man. Were you doing that before, or did they contact you? Like you if you don't have 100 percent mindset into it, you're going to get fucked up, you know. some of these guys. I've always wanted to box, you know, coming off like let's let's start talking to some of these guys I've always
27:38 but, you know, boxing definitely would be fun. I heard that, yeah. Do you know when you're fighting? 155s. but if I can go 55s, I would greatly appreciate that. You know, I can get in there. I can be fast, explosive, quick, um, powerful. of fighting you know i can get in there i can be fast explosive quick rounds i don't we would do more of them but I want my body my mind to get used to
30:33 Well, like I said, it's been a whole year process kind of going back and forth. half inch of leather over my knuckles, thrown out in the beginning didn't make sense for me. I have other businesses that are doing really well right now that are something that I can do for the rest of my life and not have to ever fight. Who else? introducing the But your hands are covered with a pad.
33:51 And I think that's, you know, you're going to have a lot of blood, But I think you get hit a lot more with punches than you do with elbows in a fight. and maybe I want to do one or two more UFC fights after this. I mean, they basically could have just said fuck you you're not competing well they kind of Yeah. Remember that and he was talking all kinds of shit about the UFC and talking all kinds of shit about fighter pay
36:16 And it's, I mean, I get, if somebody was talking shit to me, I would be like, fuck you too. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. They've got legit talent over there. I don't know if it'll ever be as big as UFC, but I just, you know, it is, it's, it's, it's odd that and then just has MMA on Showtime. What is this? I just saw – it was a full MMA fight, though, bare-knuckle, or it's going to happen.
38:55 day and he's like i remember trying to get sponsors when the ufc was kind of first taken off and you have it on this big ass court, You can't just run away. I mean, it's a big part of the strategy of getting someone up against the cage right I mean it's a big part of the Right. And the more factors you can cut out that are extraneous, Yeah, chaos. But the problem is the fuck, the guy's the same size.
41:25 They just bum-rushed this boy. I'm going to beat three dudes up? Look at them they're cheering They're willing to try And Scott Ferrozzo So basically that was the start of the bare knuckle. A lot of guys wore shoes. When I was 19. That was someone else doing the introductions. I couldn't believe I was even there. But Trey Telligman did not have gloves on.
44:21 Well, he was he had legit jujitsu you know he was from uh carlson then too like i remember waleed Ishmael was fighting somebody, Joe Son and Keith Hackney. Yeah. Or some of his peck. Incredible physical conditioning drills and sparring and just try to break you. one of my teammates his last fight which was one of the best striking fights he's ever had didn't
47:18 Oh, my God. Getting your bell rung multiple times or, you know, And I remember there was guys that would get knocked out, like, you know, Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. but he doesn't fight like TJ. Like, I remember him when he was at Team Alpha Male. And if you try something that doesn't, He's obsessed. or where they grew up or you know for you it'd probably be like the the archery elk hunt or something.
51:28 In the wrestling world, Sammy Henson was that guy for me. And he's like, there's no mistake. there's one yeah you know and you know and he's actually moving here is he's very exciting oh no You've got Dwayne. Yeah, it is, man. They're moving good. Yeah. and then get out there and actually perform it. Because it seemed locked the fuck in. I mean, that dude's a beast.
55:32 I definitely knew this was going to be a tough fight. i'm a damage guy i lean towards damage always yeah but tj close ass fucking fight it was close ass fight On TJ's post, he said it happened at this Oh, man. because his knee He really did a good job getting dropped there I just had to wear a brace and do a lot of swimming. My whole life. I mean, I remember as a kid, you know, it started on my shins,
58:51 ears, little patches on my body cavity. And what was your diet like then? We started basically the American Almond Beef, my beef company. I'm going to do it for a month. And if I don't see any improvements, I'll just kind of go back And the lack of sleep really flares it up, which I, obviously on hunts, I'm eating bad in camp, whatever we're making.
1:01:39 Maybe it could have been two weeks. problem. It's so good. Yeah. But, um, and then alcohol, you know, I just, I'm not probably ever I talked to Sean and Paul. Well, Paul is a proponent of honey and some fruits. Those are the big ones I'm the same, and I've been doing fruits Sweet potatoes are okay, but mainly just fruits, vegetables. I I've Now when you're training, have you adjusted it at all during training?
1:05:25 of the whole oats and the white rice too, as a white rice is like a post-workout. Um, but But mostly what he's eating is meat and rice. so far i haven't had any issues like it's i eat it and i'm like waiting for my psoriasis to just then add back mushrooms and add back fruits. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, it's, it's interesting, but the People always ask me like, hey, what's your, can you send me your diet?
1:07:47 but that is, you know, makes people feel like shit it's just your body doesn't like it it just it makes you sluggish I don't know. Amaranth. Okay, it's really a seed, like quinoa. I love a nice fresh orange or apples or something like that. And eggs too. Yeah. It's just hard because I like food so much. well-being felt good yeah I felt like when we're here doing this I feel
1:11:11 Holy shit. Giant fucking dude. I'm going to have to look that up. I think you can move that along quicker with exogenous ketones. Yeah. You know. Diets suck. I hate them. Yeah. I've done the keto diet too, but I just get bored. Yeah. You know, diets suck. Why do I have to only eat meat? I'm going to have to listen. her her like bones cracking she's made out of glass you know she's so small she's 80 pounds
1:14:53 would eat the rats. Yeah, I feel horrible for talking about it. know i mean you know only one way to find out. Right. You know, yeah. I would sauteed onions are so delicious, man. Some grass fed butter. i mean that has got to be a fucking strong flavor oh shit i would imagine i need to do that super And over the 30 years, they've kind of just reproduced,
1:17:37 We all broke it down and basically lived off that. They had a hunt in Yellowstone this year. Ooh, that's a big fucking animal, son. And we were in this one area where you could take photographs of them. man i mean they look they look like they're slow and just kind of lethargic, but they're quick. It's an insane, insanely powerful animal and so fucking delicious.
1:19:46 Yeah. 63. For folks who don't understand what that over 10 hours to get this thing all cut up. 63. he's the one that told me to put in for the tag and he's like And so he's never trophy hunted you know they live off And so we're just sitting there for like, it seemed like 10 minutes just trying to like decide. Fish and game is taking it. You're getting. Yeah. Fish and game's taking it.
1:21:36 dude, I definitely could have gotten with a bow. We were like 50 yards from him just standing there. Wow. Was this a bow hunt or a rifle hunt? It was a rifle hunt. Did you hear it? It would like take everything for us to get that leg that high off the ground. because it never buried it, never got it in the hole, Those guys are awesome. Oh, yeah. It's fucking crazy.
1:23:36 They can all go fuck themselves. There's a tree line right in front of us, and it's a big sage flat. Like, they were coming in on us. just like the hell but um you know in texas you just shoot them like in texas they have they're It's not easy. Is it like some of the backstrap? Yeah. I've heard multiple people. I've heard it's very good. Yeah. It's a real light meat. I hear it's pretty good. I haven't eaten it yet. Oh, you haven't? Is it like some of the backstrap? Yeah.
1:25:40 Things that eat meat. They go kill it. What's crazy is it was one of the preferred foods of the pioneers, They're soft bodied, which is weird. It was one that I harvested in Idaho and these bears were all eating like wild plums. There was They'll eat whatever the hell they can come across and live off of. are phenomenal, man. It's, and I think it's cause they're eating that delicious stuff year round
1:28:53 You got a bear that's scrounging and living in a trash can. they eat the shit out of them. i've ever eaten one but i haven't no not like that i've eaten bear from alberta yeah and it and the bear comes up through the bottom of the canyon, Oh, yeah, it was screaming. and I'm looking and there's a bear just sitting there staring at us and he's laying over the top of a giant black tail buck
1:32:20 But I mean, and we were back in a spot where unless somebody poached it, you know, It was crazy. No way. Oh, my God. Exactly. just a bear's life is just so interesting to me. they see deer everywhere it's rare that you see a bear because bears are a little cautious being It's crazy. Are they, I mean, I'm not exactly sure what they've been doing, but they're stuck.
1:35:41 If you come from Canada into America and then try to go back to Canada, I think there's I was like, what? Because like I was just reading something about the border being shut down. I know he came down kind of, I think it was like what did he say like $700,000 fine. In different states, you know, in this country, you're seeing differences on different, like New York City just instituted a, they have a passport, essentially.
1:37:45 and you could find out whether or not someone has it yeah it's not that hard And then even then, there's a lot of articles that are out there now. They never talk about vitamins and all the things you can do to strengthen your immune system. It is beyond. I had them too, bro. And all the symptoms were the same as COVID. Yeah. You're right. Well, no, because
1:40:12 Right, okay. I just didn't have any symptoms symptoms and my body was just like... It's interesting. Wait a minute. That's a good question. Right? These got to be high fence operation, I'm guessing. If you you got invasive species like wild pigs and stuff like that, but it's the Texas situation is very odd very odd We sit in front of the feeder. Yeah, you're waiting.
1:43:40 is if you have to go to an area where there's like a clear cut where they have new uh like greenery coming through and the bears like to eat that right after spring yeah or you And I'm not, you know, if it's keeping the population down, that's cool. They were trying to outlaw bear hunting altogether last year, Yeah. There has to be predator population control.
1:45:58 Yeah, they're gonna get less nervous around people because now they're not gonna think of people as being hunters anymore i mean it's not like they're going to go out of their way to get on the internet and start doing Especially around Pasadena, jumping in people's swimming pools and shit. dogs to be hunted uh which has been years now and they don't i I've heard they get like half of it even.
1:48:09 you pass farmers. And then when you get up in your area like Sacramento, man, there's a lot of hunting It's just continuing to get bigger. depredation permit we either see it we could kill it or we set a trap catch it kill it now it's like they they they check out their guts they find out what they've been eating. I don't know if we're ever going to do anything about it, though.
1:50:47 Bro, they're fucking nasty cunts. dogs. And, uh, I asked if I could, could hunt on her property and she told me no. And so I would to understand like the benefit of doing this you know like if i was able to hunt deer in your great book called uh coyote america i think that's where yeah yeah guy named dan flores who's been on the females have more pups
1:53:39 because when they figured out how to kill off the wolves, Really? You never seen it? So it's like a larger coyote. Yeah, they're so smart. Really sneaky. Park, or its way. What? What the hell? They jabbed him. You know, and people that just don't understand hunting or population control, they get so pissed off. and everybody tries to kill as many coyotes as they can.
1:56:49 Which- And that's where wildlife biologists do an accurate assessment, a survey of the area. up and everything i'm driving home from my taxidermist and this Prius rolls up and basically to where i'm trying to slow down because i don't want to get into it with this chick. here we go. Yeah. Dude, it's insane when I get comments like that. It is the dumbest fucking argument of all time.
1:59:33 Meanwhile, they're eating beef every day. They're just like, fuck you. that you cook you hunted and killed yourself, there's no better meat on planet Earth. I think these people just assume that we're going. Oh, it's crazy. And then after a while, they're like, fuck you. And they breed all year round. Dude, it's such a weird animal. It's like an invasive species. And they breed all year round.
2:02:07 And we're like, hey, let's clean this pig and we'll put this on the smoker and we'll let it smoke all day tomorrow and we'll have it for dinner tomorrow night. those ones are already breeding again and you're how each one's having you know when you were from I love eating wild pig. I mean, we'll do ground meat. it has, there's tons of wild mulberry trees all over the place. So she got this boar, and then we went and picked a bunch of the wild mulberries.
2:04:24 There it is here. Oh, yeah. There you go. I don't think I've from those mulberries from the ranch. You're a fancy man. Yeah, it was fucking good, dude. There it is here. Oh, yeah. I couldn't recall it. There's the That's it. When I was at Tohon Ranch, they had a trail cam on one of their ponds. They're not at all. It's really good. I absolutely love cooking, by the way.
2:07:02 it, where freeze drying, you're not doing that. And so when you rehydrate something that's freeze dried, like dehydrated stuff typically gets really thing. It's not like us where we have like a giant, basically like a pot. We cook the entire recipe companies that are doing these other game meets, you know, they can only do a handful at a time. you know,
2:08:58 cool story. So they haven't been around long. I think they've been around, I want to say three it's just bad and so i'm And he's sitting there and it's like bling and an order comes through. for me to be able to basically create my own recipes and pump them out there to people that, brownie bites, cookie bites. Yeah. When, you know, for people that don't know when folks go, uh,
2:12:08 or whatever it is. And, uh, you know, it's, it's nice to know you can bust your ass all day and which is nice because a lot of the other meals, we have a jet boil, you know, it's a, it's a little contraption that basically boils that I'd say probably 50-50. watching all my buddies get out there and do it and um not being able to do it but me and Dillashaw actually have a hunt in October like right after
2:14:55 If they're not in full rut, which they probably won't be in full rut, people's eyes to the possibility that there might come a time where you don't have any food at all Which is pretty badass because you can literally go on a hunt with you. wanted to get into archery hunting or hunting in general and i think it's basically because people get out there, sight your gun in at 100,
2:17:58 And he was a huge fan of Rinella's and loved, you know, the Meat meat eater podcast and and the show and he wanted uh what that feeling feels like. I still get excited on hunts, but I haven't been that excited Dude, I got him a whole—this was probably opportunity number three or four. And so he pulls up over the rise and shoots and misses. I have to like reload the gun because he's just like pulls up again, shoots, misses.
2:20:46 to talk to him you know like hey man it's this is part of hunting especially because it's your A big confidence booster, I'm sure. put in that moment of truth situation to where you have nerves and you have to figure out with Like how cool is that? Yeah. Wearing like farmer clothes with a wood. He looks like hunting moose in Newfoundland. everybody's vaccinated um so luckily we only have uh four clients three of the guys are from
2:23:57 I think Scotty Lago, I don't know if you know who that is. Oh, man. You know, you've been there. it. Is it a weird thing though, when you go take a guy out of the woods that you don't know, overweight or a lot of bit overweight and it's tough for them to get to certain places. There's things I need to do different because this is ridiculous. cool how to make some changes yeah like i that's one of the reasons i wanted to do fins and feathers
2:27:30 never fished. You know, no one in my family ever did it. I didn't know how to do it. How do I get fucking cool. That's very cool. That's very cool. Yeah. It's, uh, it's an immensely satisfying thing like thinking like, Holy shit. Like this is, I'm like, I'm glad I work out. Like, this is crazy. of it but yeah mule deer hunting you're in those types of situations you've never been in before
2:30:12 Yeah, we're going to go up and over that by the end of this. Step, kick your toe in, step up. How do you know what boot to choose for a hunt like that? did you have to break it in first? I did. I, I got, I got those boots probably three months, and everything water. Um, and that's basically what I was packing around out there. So people rings and it's like they have false annual false ones ones basically. So, you know, basically what the guide was telling us is sometimes when, so basically
2:33:49 growing. And so that's what causes those rings. Every year they go through that winter, they get you get fined i think there's even some instances if it's bad enough jail time like it's like legit No, if it's eight, you can still shoot it if you can count eight rings. see because they're such a visual on rocks and huh even feeding in areas where they're eating
2:36:22 I know what you're talking about. It looks like a tough hunt for sure, like it can be as far as even finding them. And then, again, like we said, traversing that stuff is a nightmare. And I've eaten caribou, and it's amazing meat, too. Yeah. when the bear bum-rushed him. They're so big. And it's my friend Clay Newcomb. And again, like, what's the caliber?
2:38:57 No thanks. But there's like this cycling path that is very popular. When you do an archery hunt, do you pack a gun? What caliber do you bring? I don't know if they were problem bears that they captured. yeah like a zit it's gonna pop it's horrific watching that thing eat the watermelon, Yeah. that's crazy buddy of mine we had just stalked in on a big bull that was screaming with his cows.
2:42:40 sage flats dude that's another thing that people don't realize how big, I mean, I Yeah, probably. It was a little too big to be a coyote, I think. How dare you mention the two of those in the same time. scared the shit out of me even like going in the woods at night when i'm hunting like hiking out or person that turns in I mean there was that one movie cats do you remember that
2:45:12 Yeah. I bet if we watched it today, we'd probably die laughing. I typed it. Let me see this. oh that's not oh this is this is a movie about crazy people who live with too many cats That was it? Oh, shit. So, wait, is he one, too? I guess he's a cat, too. That might have been too bad. so they might not have had a scene it might have been I loved it all those
2:48:10 They show on Tittai on YouTube We're not watching it Come on. Let's get going. Oh, she's with a regular Whoa, the face. Oh, yeah. She popped out of the skin. Pop. There's no better scene, a transformation scene, than American Werewolf. It's the best. I worshipped him when I was a kid. it's it's something dope about running into one you know i've only seen mountain lions a couple
2:51:08 Yeah that's crazy They're amazing Yeah we played it Fuck you. But the way it ran at him seen some of those oh my god he's drinking out of a guzzler and wham just smacks it fast and hard Yeah. What are you wacky? Well, don't go to the one with the S. So almond beef is like they're just eating almonds? Plus I don't know you. of fiber, tons of protein, tons of fat, obviously from an almond.
2:55:12 So like I said, no soy, no corn. It's really good. And then it shows up frozen on your doorstep when it's not frozen. Like if you get and like one of our guys one of our guys is one of the biggest almond growers in northern about this stuff. And they're all going to make fun of me because they call them almonds. Really? Yeah. It's like a South thing.
2:58:06 American almond beef. All the farmers call it that for some reason. I'm glad we finally did this. Like you download an app. And Chad Mendez on Instagram, Twitter, all those things, right? and it's with an S thank you so much man