Joe Rogan Experience #10118 — Julianna Peña Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day is and it's really complicated and everything. But this guy, Beeple, he's an amazing artist. I can give to like super fans, right? So I think I was going to stick some of that stuff, one of his victories and it's up in my uh studio in la oh nice i gotta bring that over here yeah

2:28 Yeah. Like, You're very excited It was wild you standing in the middle of octagon and smashing her with a jab it was like That's just the way that my fighting style is. going to have to meet this fire, and you absolutely cannot shy away from it. Well, you said it leading and i was like that was my fight she's the champ said that i was next and so ronda came in she got

5:32 Because she's a legend by then. When she knocked her out in 48 seconds, everybody was like, holy fuck. You know? a vicious knockout artist, but beating Ronda the way she did put her on the world map. Right. just knocking people out It was like it almost made me feel guilty in a sense. I'm like, really? Yeah. My dad lost 15 pounds. Like this guy's throwing up,

7:12 That's hilarious. The world goes away. You were counted out by so many people. And people were upset about me like, oh yeah, you can't do this and you can't do that. Set some You know, a lot of people never find the groove. everyone wants to seek comfort. Right. that catastrophic knee injury, I mean, that was, that was such an enormous setback. But how dark were those days?

10:13 that I was with, couldn't take me down. And we were fighting for real. And, and so at one point, And when my my first reaction was I'm out of the fight. And so I was on the way to the sometimes when you care you get a little crazy, well, it just ended up making him hate my coach. You can't avoid, like, you zig when you should have zagged. It was just us.

12:41 like oh no and then i went to the gym and angry, angry, angry, like think that's just his excuse because he's always created so much chaos in my life. Like Tyson, when he was in his prime, his life was full chaos. Gonorrhea right yeah heavyweight champion and by the way Oh, you're sponsored by weed. and his life was just full on chaos. Yeah. Yeah. And I could make a case for that. I could go back

15:11 like you're in this state, Absolutely. Yeah. Right? I have always wanted to anyway And then we'll fight in July. That is always like traditionally been a way that people have been able to like get rivalries But again, like I said, like if I get pushed in that direction, that's a different story. bitch treat me like a bitch you're a bitch treat me like a bitch like You're a bitch. Treat me like a bitch. Like face to face with each other for like several seconds saying that.

18:14 I would hope that that wouldn't be the case. Yeah, I don't think it has to be that way. I'm like in the, I want to go buy some gold. No, I mean, to me, I don't put on a mask unless somebody like asks me. What are those N95s? the headache and I had a massive headache for two days. I think day four or five, I lost taste and smell, and I had a very mild cough, and then it was gone.

20:54 who's been on my podcast before. Nicotide, alumidide. And she was really scared. I don't know. I don't think they're trying to kill us. agriculture in places and they don't that we take that are really helpful, they find them in the Amazon. It's pretty crazy. So when they do stuff like that, also a lot of people that don't want people discussing things. They only want one narrative.

24:29 being honest or whether or not they're being paid to give an expert opinion that follows a certain I got over it pretty easy. That's fucking crazy when you find out how many people that wind up in the hospital It's just bottom line. And you used those before they were sponsored yours? If you get knocked out all the time? You know what I mean? I take it because I know that I need it and that it's good for you and I need to be supplementing.

27:32 Daniel Carcillo, he created this. But it's illegal. The conspiracy theory continues. amount of people possible. That's where things get weird. But you're in Oregon. No, I'm in Chicago. Oregon essentially decriminalized everything, right? It's like you can actually function and talk if you have this brain injury that you've sustained. If you have these issues,

29:55 Psilocybin services will be legalized in Washington state under new bill. So this is just three weeks And then Spokane's on the exact opposite side. Yeah, I know. I was thinking of taking my family and moving to Seattle. Yeah. Then a year later, I'm training and he's back in LA. She lives over on the Seattle side. Yeah. You go snowboarding, you go skiing and all that stuff.

32:36 I saw the skyline. He's a Hicks and Gracie black belt. Isn't that crazy? You take chances. But honestly, it couldn't have been a better move career-wise because, you know, in Spokane, I'm top dog. I have like four different places that I got to go to train. the Northwestern Football Team, that campus is far away. So I'm just constantly in my car all

34:37 God, that's huge. That's when you're a rich fuck. She left American Top Team. I love Dan Lambert, though. It's a total free state over there. I'm just kidding. I love Dan Lambert. So do I. He's fucking awesome. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I mean, he flew me down there. Didn't the guy? I mean, he built a giant-ass fucking building. Well, Sanford, you got Henry Hooft, who's phenomenal.

36:46 Like him doing that, he dumped so much money into American Top Team. Well, you could. Like, the weather's great. out the window and they're watching this tornado just drops down and fucks the house up and it And you hear there's a tornado warning. It reminds me of that movie Twister. through and just destroyed so imagine that person driving yeah right and you're looking off to your

39:34 where they're like, Did you ever see what from Spokane I'm from the Pacific Northwest you kidding me but like Chicago's a different level you're relatively probably safe it's like chicago's like don't answer the door you lock everything up You're always going to have problems. which is you know not the city not downtown chicago and i look up and like laurie lightfoot

42:11 How dare she? terrible mayor. Five seconds later, stuff and say goodbye to my family you know i'm the only one that would do something like that Very unusual. front of me I'm like Mikey he'll eat it you know like I I will eat whatever you put in front of me You don't think so? got a hold of her George Lockhart yeah made 185 pounds? There were so many excuses and it was

45:17 And then this skinny dude just lights you up. she was going to stay with the PFL. Yeah. But these other organizations, sense and gilbert melendez was always telling me that and he was right you know if and that's the other thing too these other organizations Do you know how big that would have been? Yeah, how fucking huge that would have been right? They had made that deal

47:51 Well, they knew that he was an international superstar. No one. Right. Isn't he scheduled to fight really soon in Bellator? So I just stormed him right as he was walking out of the cage and I got a selfie with him. waiting to see Fedor. And so the only picture I got of him was me like trying to get like a quick selfie after he won. Is it a business deal that you're retiring from?

49:57 Yeah. He's undefeated, two-division champion, Olympicic gold medalist he's like that's it yeah see ya or even Not only that, if you watched that win, how the fuck could anybody say anything bad about that? Yeah. She's never tapped before, ever. Really? Never. Wow. She's never tapped. It was weird to watch a man to fold so quickly like get her get tired so quickly. Yeah, yeah

51:39 and tapping what's the difference you if you tap, you're quitting. If you quit, you tap. You had her. Yeah. That's all it was. She took a lot of shots. had to realize like she's getting fucked up well and like it's so crazy the state-of-the-art cameras like how did you feel knowing that you lost the first round going into the second i'm like what There's not enough, like, people have this idea that if you try for a submission and then you don't get it, then it doesn't mean anything.

53:11 Like very similar. I think we've already cussed. I might have said, you know, pissing. I'm see, like, yeah, I'm trying not to cuss, right? It's like so hard. I think we've already cussed. Come on. You know, one of the things that everybody says about Amanda is her power is shocking. And he beat the heck out of us with these sock bombs. And again, that's one of the great things

55:20 Megan Anderson and Cyborg. know and that you see like uh there's a difference in like where your body bounces back from that And how dare they, right? I think the idea was that, and I'm just guessing, Like you go, okay, well, Amanda's this like super strong, each other. Make 35. like we already established, if it don't make making you fight no but i'm a professional yeah you know and i'm at the the height of my game i'm

58:54 I mean, it's one of the smallest windows of opportunity for an elite professional athlete. Like she can't. He's another guy who walked away in his prime. The motivation Isn't he incredible? Floyd would go to a nightclub and then You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Perfect for your fighter, you know? No problem. So your entire professional career other than those five fights have all been in the biggest organization?

1:02:01 And then I think I took like three pro fights. And then and then I was a bowling alley server at nighttime and I worked in the casino alley. And 2016 was your first UFC fight? I'm not good at numbers either. just was defending myself all my life and then when I got into actual cardio kickboxing class they just gave a belt to Rhonda you know what what I mean? They're just like, hey, welcome to the UFC.

1:04:44 And two truths. You know, the delays that I've had in life have been injuries or pregnancy or more injuries. Yeah. did you have meniscus damage as well so it was everything yeah did they do a cut on the meniscus because I've done them both I have to take this collagen to make sure that my joints and everything's feeling good. Yeah. you know, be this gigantic, you know, Hulk mania and be lifting every day. Like I,

1:07:57 Did you put your camps together or did you have somebody that structured them for you? But when I have a fight, he'll come out, stay with me for a month. And the flip side to that is these people are gym jumpers because they don't have a coach that cares. that dana white was going to open the doors to the women in the ufc he told me stick with this you

1:10:16 I love hearing that. feel like my leo side is just so dominant but my sister is a virgo and you know she's also the type more feisty than you dude I'm kidding I could have done that too But it was important to have her because her knowing, her beating me up and knowing me my whole life. the world there's no other sport where you run as much besides maybe running yeah and so also like

1:12:14 You have dexterity and then you have this endurance aspect There's quite a few people that were elite soccer players that, if you think about how has helped me in fighting i mean you could find a similarity in any sport or any physical activity that you do She's pretty funny. and they were so fucking strong uh, but maybe, Well, if you ever go to stance elements on Instagram.

1:14:43 gravity and physics like the amount of strength He's Japanese. them that are chicks let me see what and this is breaks break dancing that's what they call it yeah is it? and the athletes that do it, I don't think most people know how crazy what they're doing is. Exactly. that mask off while you're doing it though sir how dare you well it's gone to a point where people

1:18:14 It's not, you know, it's just silly. through like a typical camp okay like if you, say you're going to defend your title against Amanda. I just got to keep the foundation first off. And that means lifting still and running still and making sure that, you know, I'm not turning back into the tin man, you know, because nothing is harder than getting out of shape and then trying to get back in shape again.

1:20:35 how much time would you give yourself off um i mean so fighters fight like two times is is is a Yeah. to Jermaine, I was like, I'm going to disappear off the face of the planet and cry myself to sleep again like I did with Valentina. My coach Wayne was like, no, you need to take another fight immediately. You need to stay active. You have to stay active. And I took another fight about a month and a half later against Sarah McMahon.

1:22:49 You know, I thought, Valentina, 17-time Muay Thai world champion, You have to assume everybody is well-rounded. Do you think you can make 125? that fight on such short notice. On a bad day, catch me on a bad day, 115 if you want me to you know i'll go to 155 like i don't care i'll fight anybody just as long as if Whatever her reasoning is, she's probably a little embarrassed.

1:25:49 In history. Oh, there's no question. So if that's the case, then what is this? And I think that without fighters, there's no sport. well I've been establishing these relationships with the UFC since 2013 I love these guys the press conference you know what I mean so that's the thing right it's like you gotta first I love Dana White mistake of your life

1:28:41 he's the owner of Wisana amanda was undefeated and she was the goat and this would be the big challenge to her but also You know, It's like, You lost to Jermaine Duran to me. so that's one loss who's going to challenge who and how things line up. So it was like there was history behind it. we're just trying to think of and talk about the future. Yeah, I hope so.

1:31:52 went crazy i know the whole the everybody did i think the the highlight for me honestly was And I'm just like, am I bothering you? said how they they want to know like how you feeling going into this fight I said well how title shots uh did you get and he was like i fought in the ufc i think don't quote me 13 or 14 times It's not weakness. I'm like, I did tell you so.

1:34:35 It's the first time I've ever been on the octagon in my entire career. He's like, get on the cage. I kicked him in the back of the head when I got up there on accident. And Rick's like, get on the cage. It does. I was like, oh, that's great, you you know I went and watched the thrill and agony and That's your friend. know who that is and they're i still haven't figured out who it is whoever you are thanks

1:36:51 That's so funny. I knew I was going to win how i'm going to you know move on to the next thing which is retaining the belt and defending I was born in 89 What year are we in I'm going 2022 She busted out a calculator. My brother's like, do you really want to be fighting when you're 40 that's embarrassing and i'm like he was destroying people at 40 he fought all the way up till he was 50 at a world-class level wow

1:39:54 Yeah. That's why, again, it's very important that you try to capitalize on every opportunity you're going to have to be worrying about that, we'll be living on the moon. So technology will have advanced way before, like by the time you get there, you know. Yeah. They're so close to being able to figure it out with biologics. They're so close with like stem cells and different things that are

1:41:48 Really? Like, why are you doing this to me? I've had Regenicaine, which is a very similar process to PRP, where Yeah. spinning tails there because I was gonna I was gonna throttle that chick I don't know why it Yes. It's hilarious. I mean, I could talk about MMA all day. It's perfect for you. podcast especially being a single mom it's it's taking away from training and being a mom like

1:45:36 that's got a table and a microphone, I have a Yeti microphone and I got the headset. And then I also feel like timing is an issue for me. I'm like, nobody really cares, do they? that's I think it's a great way for you to set up what you could do in the Yeah. He's been around forever. But for the most part, people ask me about fights and stuff. And'm like i this is gonna sound horrible it's super selfish i don't

1:48:04 podcast yeah and and thank god for Campbell McLaren for giving me that opportunity and Get used to doing it. and I just have to find and find and figure out a way to facilitate it. Cause like I said, Like, that'd be great, but nobody's listening to me. And when it comes to a big fight, has to say about fighting maybe well megan olivi does it yeah but megan olivi is not you know

1:50:53 love each other so it comes out and megan i love megan too totally but we you know you could do Yeah. you got to beat the champ belt so I was like that's you're trying to like I'm so pumped and excited about this And I would just watch. And he would write down takedowns, this, that, you know, submission attempts. Yeah. I'm trying to make it exciting

1:53:31 Right. this guy's last seed on the ultimate fighter you know he took a fight on short notice the first seem like a robbery to me but it did seem like again i'd have to watch it. It was a close fight. It didn't seem like a robbery to me, but it did seem like, again, I'd have to watch it. You've been doing it for a long time. Don't you get I re-watch fights all the time. Do you? I love them.

1:55:21 But when you fly back, I'm wrecked for days. And having to have that knowledge on who's fighting every time has got to be taxing. I mean, they're just filtering these guys in left and right. And like having to like have that knowledge because I've been commentating with Combate I had to tell them a month ahead of time that I had to quit because I needed to

1:56:24 Oh yeah. She's the OG. To weird spots. like i'm not gonna stop doing it yeah and so it was a thing where it was like i was wondering if And the first time I ever did commentary was UFC 37 1⁄2. I said, listen, I don't even need any money. like you know what the UFC needs? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Look at all my hair. Yeah. Yeah, like that's you and him back in the day.

2:00:43 Yeah. many historical fights yeah mikey burnett when he was in his prime i got to see pat militich when When I started, it was bare knuckle. Yeah. And Valentino was fighting Lauren Murphy and he was just like not happy. No, he was talking in front of me, but he's watching the fight, And I think, you know, the second time meeting him was more pleasant.

2:03:45 can go back to me when I started was 97 yeah there's not another sport where you I think they should do that. and then I think it's also very subjective. and then they have regional the crowd and they give into it. Unlike But there's other people that aren't like that. I'm with you. Let the guys fight. someone be boring for a couple minutes while someone's smushed underneath yeah if someone

2:06:30 Right. He landed more strikes. Yeah. He said to him, you got a booger in your nose. He's a wild man. Who's been with him forever. like, Yeah. I think it was, It is possible to do. There was no, no, no, no, no. tournaments, some national tournaments. That's all I did from age 15 to 21 was compete. Did your I had like a socially stunted high school year,

2:09:27 I mean, I wasn't, I was a weirdo. Yeah. Well, my mom got divorced when I was young. You did? One of my very good friends is a guy named Steve Graham. I would make everybody laugh because we were all fucking freaking out. And so we're all nervous. And then my friend Steve was like, you should be a comedian. Yeah, Adam Greenberg. remember growing up and be like I want to be either these three things and I wanted to be, rapper, boxer, and comedian. No shit. I remember growing up and being like,

2:12:37 Okay, you went into comedy. Yeah. Yeah, what you think is funny. or that I think are weird, something that makes Like if they have a nail and they have a hammer and they hit the nail with the hammer, You can 100% do stand up. crowds and you're going to have days where like you have off training days. You got something to say to me. You just got to know how to dance around it.

2:15:04 It's like if you want to fight and you want to punch someone you can't just run up and it's complicated. do it yeah that would be a great thing to do along with a podcast yeah but I'm Yeah, love Tito. I don't know. And the first one that was like one of the first women fights that I'd ever saw. I do not remember. I was extremely ready to see a chick fight but we were i

2:17:54 you're going, I can't believe this is really happening. And it was wild. in in times yeah when the rubber meets the road i mean i can i'll bet on myself every time well different because I was a weirdo back before I had a kid in the sense that like, they'd be like, everything that she could ever dream and desire you know and so i want to make sure now i'm

2:20:48 Yes. a doctor. She's got her PhD and she has invented this type of therapy. It's called Mercier therapy. to have children she works on your body so that you can, if you're wanting to have children, she works on your body so that you can get pregnant and she gets, she gets women pregnant, and she works on... a regular body massage. heard was one of my friends in California she's a ch chiropractor. She was like, this girl's on a podcast. She's in the Chicagoland area. You should check her out.

2:23:44 be until you have a nice day. Most women just go on and have a nice day. And then when they laugh, There's no blood flow going through there. So scarring. What is it like after a C-section the way that I wanted to. You know what I mean? giving me that confidence that I would absolutely be back. I didn't feel like I got to fight right away. Yes. So she'll hang out on the cage and she'll start cheering for me, you know, and I can hear her and

2:27:09 And she's four, but she's like 14. So she has no choice. know jujitsu yes um with that being said they ask me oh what are you going to do when she wants to No. Yeah. now is not just money, but it's also like, holy shit, look what you did. Like you could do anything tapped and you went crazy and everyone went crazy. And that is a, that very few human beings ever

2:31:04 Yeah. I'm a single mom. I've been putting in my licks. It makes me want to do it all over again. Yeah. being here. Yeah. Thank you. Tell everybody how to get ahold of you on social media, what your You can buy a cameo. my little knock off bye bye Thank you.