Joe Rogan Experience #10119 — Michael Bisping Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience and you could only imagine the rage, And he's got a little daughter, man. Yeah, I mean, it's Beyonce. have been too good for him yes it would have been you know it would have been yeah i mean that is No, I just don't think they do, man. What is the... See, Google that. I don't have a bad vocabulary, but that's pretty good. It's very high.

3:13 Because they catch them. Yeah. and the cops pulled him over. And it was like in Indiana or some shit like that Yeah. Do you know what I mean? pissed in a restaurant on the floor What is that? And I had one of my episodes. I ran out of the bedroom, ran down the stairs, right? Oh, my God. And now he's paralyzed. How often have you had, I mean, how long has this been going on?

6:37 My wife tells me the next day. Yes, yes. the wall. You know, she's only a little thing. right and you remember it when you're waking up like after you threw it in the ground is that Like, hey, go back to bed. Here's the question. Slap me. yeah listen to his knee it in like they do it a few different ways like resurfacing and sometimes they Shave down the femur.

9:31 I mean, my legs swelled up to about this size. And then as soon as that healed, I started having pain in my right knee. doing jiu-jitsu you know so you're training again uh no well i was gonna say doing jiu-jitsu is an I would say so. That's a good question. Joey Diaz had one of his replaced. so i said to the doctor i said is it fine to run and he said yeah well i screwed them in extra

11:31 My mom's trying to avoid one right now. and there was no improvement. she's like 75. You know, when you're older too She's like 75, you know when you're older you don't heal good man. No, you know, I imagine if it's rough for you Sorry, fly to the States to have an operation, you know. because just the the surgery that's one thing that people have to take into consideration. It's like you're going to be,

13:37 He said, oh, you can do a Peloton class today. But that took months or a few weeks, should I say. It's nice, though, that there's something that they could do that relieves pain. Knee replacement? Yes or no? I'm like, do it. You know? Yeah. I had to have my nose rebuilt. Yeah, yeah. Was this while you were still fighting? Still in pain. But I said, if I do this, it's going to take care of this.

16:35 People already see me running down the street naked, fucking half asleep. And I've always had neck problems too. They start becoming a problem like the next one down becomes a problem Eddie Bravo has one too somewhere in vegas what's it called some some old arena they used to do fights i forget anyway talking to myself naked. I haven't rolled in quite some time.

18:34 Yeah. That's his life. It's nice watching a son of a champion But, yeah, he's had a lot of knee problems as well. meniscus grafts and apparently on young people it's pretty effective um but there's another thing you mention that, because that's exactly sled so i load the sled up with weight i attach it to my hip with a hip belt yeah and I drag this sled but just pushing

20:54 I used to do stuff like that in strength and conditioning. I just found out about it pretty recently. I've got to work on that, yeah. to strengthen joints. fact i do know why it's because every time i do it i fall onto the toilet as opposed to sitting It's a constant battle. Yeah. No. You know what I mean? because if you become the champ, then you make more money.

24:06 When I left school and then didn't, you know, dead-end job after dead-end job. There's like 30 seasons now. It's wild. I mean what the fuck man hey, and you want to hear what I hear it's crazy training session. Yeah I know, it's crazy. where he knocked a guy out with an uppercut. stepped in, just flatlined Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's not just throwing a punch. Exactly. You know what I mean? He's a perfect read. And he stepped off as well, so he was away from the counter. Yeah. You know what I mean?

26:11 Yeah, out cold. They're some fierce fucking human beings. and interviewing him and talking about his childhood. That guy has, I think, That's not a significant strike. I don't think that should count as a strike. He did this from the guard and rolled him over and finished him. Kevin Holland cracked, though. When you see a lot of these guys that do cut a ton of weight, the big guys like uh like Pereira, Michelle Pereira that guy's huge yeah he said he was only about

28:32 Really? Really? Yep Of the top of my head a good fight this weekend will be less He's off balance at times, you know. That's what I love about him. Super close fight last weekend. And so the fact that Holland was able to take him out with one shot like that is insanely impressive. you know that's why guys like rockhold at 85 was like he was always a nightmare because he was so

31:06 yeah cause I did yeah You got him the last time And he's like, excuse me, can you not? Because I weighed, at the time, I weighed like 195. He's a freak. Just gigantic. So they send him, the UFC sends him to the doctor. He goes, I've been studying human beings. I was young enough. He's young enough that it was recent enough that they were experimenting with all sorts of

33:51 100%. Yeah, it's an outlandish statement. by saying he was injected with human growth hormone as a baby. this you know the story of Alexander Curellon right I don't know Alexander But he would pick guys up. in the air will do that it's crazy watch him do it because when he would do it And everybody was afraid and just keep dumping you. The way he moved, and yeah and just a full

36:55 It's a good question. But look, it's always amazing when someone finds a way, right? The upper body strength must be off the charts. Talk about- that had one arm? I don't mean Nick Newell No, you can't. it was after the Vitor fight, oh, he's doing that thing again with his hands. called the doctor but um i fought alan belcher after the veto belfort fight and then as i say

39:16 With great difficulty. And I was talking about fighting again. one they took me to see another doctor and i went in and this doctor was an old indian guy and the eye test was there. He thinks I'm fucking trying to check on my vision like a normal person. I had paid off if I'm honest he said but I wouldn't fight Yeah, oh, God, what a situation. those they just didn't check very good i mean i i had uh i had a cold with perillo he always came

42:20 all right, how many fingers can you see? I said, yeah, yeah, of course I can. Very few people would have still fought. I had to still fight, you know. And it's all I knew at that time. I mean, I don't want to say too much. Now I'm fine I'm always misreading it can fuck with me a little bit. You have to turn to see if someone's next to you in the next lane.

44:30 And I'm always I talk with my hands. And it's always a little old lady, for some reason. nothing they can do in terms of uh repair well if you look at that wow it has gotten worse yeah I can tell when the light's gone on and off. Yeah, yeah. Two fake knees stepping into the octagon. That would be wild. Fake knees and a fake eye. and the signals that it sends.

46:55 But didn't, after one of your fights, you did have some, and then look back I just have a flash of light and every time I did it again which is a scary concept. So anyway, I rushed out of the room. And I sat up. So it wasn't a detached retina, fortunately. know medical science come a long way since then the first time I'd ever heard And then he said after that he had this press conference.

49:34 Oh, really? until you actually touch them, like I said before, with that water bottle. Whereas if it was this way, that'd be my dominant eye Yeah. I was blind in the ring. in australia and as i was walking in someone from the ufc comes running over michael michael michael I'm like, oh, God, here we go. And he just wanted to take the stitches out of the good eye.

51:42 Accidental. I had no fucking idea. Well, he used a that's my excuse but it's true well it's true i mean and then the vitor thing is a strange situation remember when they looked at the levels they're like this is not just testosterone replacement I mean, he was just so aggressive and so ripped, man. But that wasn't TRT Vitor. Yeah, no, he was... Yeah.

54:54 Yeah. image of him getting kicked in the face. Yeah. He had fought a lot in Pride Yeah, Weidman and Gastelum. Fucking half the people were juiced if not more they were they were look at that of them you talk about it all day, and you say some very, very good words. a man should be most proud of. for me i'm just trying to win a fight you know i'm just trying to provide for my family and do

58:06 And it hits me. Exactly. So he started celebrating. So I wasn't unconscious, but I was definitely I don't believe I was there for that. Yeah. I mean, you know how it is when you get hit with a good one yeah it's always the same flash of light Get your shit together. There's no fucking way I'm going to let that guy knock me out again. Yeah, it is. in the first round yeah so the good eye eye or the bad eye? Good eye.

1:01:16 Oh, my God. i was crying a little bit you know because you go blind it's kind of scary but yeah after about a You know what I mean? Other than Paul Craig. There's a video of him partying with Paul Craig like, Chael was dismissing the shot he hit Walker with, He hit him perfect. murk motherfuckers just one punch ko power Yeah, yeah, I mean the big ones the big big ones, you know

1:04:36 He looked like, you know. Everyone was terrified of him. And some guy's got a giant dick. Oh. Look at that. Say what year? Watch this. who hit clean went night-night. Look at that guy. sort of an agreement and they let francis box tyson fury that's what i'm hoping yeah i want the I mean, Tyson Fury is one of the most skillful boxers ever. And he can take it.

1:07:38 He won the round. So I had to say, fuck this and go forward. He got poisoned. And dropped twice in a round. that his elbow Yeah. you know. I got knocked out by Gypsy John outside a nightclub in Blackburn. Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't He's not what you call There's that picture isn't there Love it. but the the skill is evident i mean yes the feints that he uses i mean against clitch card

1:10:52 And to do that for 12 rounds. No, he's quite the showman. is supposed to fight Joshua. Lomachenko, Vladimir, It's incredible. You think? I mean, it's such a scary time. Well, they sent bombers to... So 2018, Russian nuclear air-capable bomber aircraft fried to Venezuela. I guess would be a way to say that. capable of flying faster They can leave, but they're saying,

1:13:49 It's just so messed up. World War III. And like we were talking about with Hamzat, Hold on, let me find it. We've got grown men dancing on TikTok if it all comes down to nuclear war, into apartment buildings on both sides i believe but i'm sure if he can't go in and take out Ukraine, to everybody. Yeah. you think you've got real issues, Even the State of the Union address.

1:16:39 No. When does it come out? releasing it. I guess it is to a certain degree how great I am I was like, all right, whatever. It was good. and have all these people talking about you like that? with it but yeah you're a pretty it's wild two years ago now He just makes fun of me all the time. And he was like, he left the room after a few minutes. And at the end of it, I'm calling out, you know,

1:20:08 and the Kung Lee fight that guy doesn't exist anymore and I think That fight, Petrosian versus Rodriguez? How did that end again? I know. What a performance. Yeah. brought in guys like yourself guys like paul felder yeah dominic cruz daniel cormier you know start saying that about fighters like you gotta yeah like i guess what you're talking about there

1:22:55 He's a personality. what the fuck is he doing talking about mixed martial arts? He's Stephen A. But MMA is a, it's not a game. When that fight was over, you're like, And fights like that, you only have so many of those in you. It's crazy. I said, well, my primary motivation is not to get the kicked out casuals don't know well yeah in my UFC no, because I blew out my PCL five days before the Ultimate Fighter finale.

1:25:42 Like, how did you fight with him? How dare you? It's all wrestling. That's crazy. obviously that I know and kicked in the face Yeah. And I didn't have a wrestling career. Yeah, it just goes to show. I can't get power into this. caught in a guillotine I'm like what are you talking about Mike? figure it out but for some people when they're learning striking later in life they never

1:28:48 Yeah, well, one of the things that's interesting about guys like Lomachenko I mean, his footwork's just incredible. So from 2006, isn't it wild when you look at the change in the games of these fighters? I have no idea what they feel like. For me, I'm pretty sure it was Benson Henderson. Because he never, would be here You know what I mean? person i've ever seen who could take them and it doesn't seem to have as much of an effect on him

1:31:45 but often you get or whatever you feel leg kicks And then sometimes a good swift left hook to the ribs Did you see that Koreskov knockout the other day? Andrei Koreskov.kov. Oh, sorry. Bro. So when you see him go, look at that. And it's where he nailed them. It's right in there. You can't move good. Yeah. Punch your lung and die. Yeah, probably. If someone did it for you.

1:34:44 There we go. still uh now i'm just on to the next thing in my life you know it's not over I'm still trying to be a success so you get You get the whiteboard out, you go through a two month training camp but then you're on to the next thing in life A lot of fighters, they struggle. You see it all the time. so I was trying to do as many things as I could

1:37:56 Mean like with you one of the things is you still have your faculties about you a hundred percent the ufc or they want to criticize boxing we know we're doing. We know what we sign up for and we do it. We welcome it with open arms. Do you know what I mean? Because this I mean, it's one of the smallest percentages of any accomplishment a person can do.

1:39:34 You know, and then he got COVID. No team of people helping him cut weight. They want to be a part of it. No. I'm just going to sweat it out. I felt like I've been close to death. When I first went down there, I knew nothing about cutting weight. And I remember I went down in the morning to have the weight checked He said, you can make 170. So when you were 188, did you just kind of starve yourself and shrink everything down?

1:42:18 I would start my camp. gonna be over trained that's exactly what I was doing. And a lot of people, a lot of people do it the same way. And oh, I'm going to pick it on these little guys now. that you're forced into that situation. It's the same at schools, wrestling at high school. that's right yeah yeah and then it just went away there was also a thing about rehydrating like you

1:44:54 Yeah. I don't know how many days, like when they do blood doping, and then you have them sit in a refrigerator, Because you would think if, say if a guy, like this guy that I had heard, I had a conversation with Chael right after he got popped, and he goes, He's a funny guy. He was trying to feed the carrot to the bus? I can't read that without my glasses.

1:46:56 as a significant amount of iron From the last donation, inappropriate iron supplements. to make weight, He's like, this is how he makes weight. Sure. I said, but I'd take one. And he said, yeah, yeah, no worries. I've got you. I've after the fight? I said, oh, no, I wasn't going to. I said, but I'd take one. Started sticking fucking needles in my arm.

1:48:55 Mike, just cover that up. I'm going to go get help. Do you feel good after it? Joe, come on onto my room. I've got to try it. yeah that we would use Yeah, I'm in pain all the time. the time it doesn't help I've really I've done treatment and it hasn't helped I'm not sure. I had a bulging disc to the point but I was like, the elbow pain, what is this?

1:52:00 like they they have these needles that they put into your neck and And so your body accepts it very quickly. This occasion I did one and it works when went fine the pain went away completely So you might want to look into this before you go and get more surgery neck fix it No, good for you. Good for you. Changing my workouts. You ever do yoga? So I said to my daughter, I said, would you mind?

1:54:18 I hear it's great. jiu jitsu guy from south africa He had a great quote, Greek gentleman. He used to be on London Real. Yoga. How do you say that? jiu jitsu guy I'm fighting against my habits but yoga and strength in unusual places. One drop of my sperm is worth a million dollars. I know. a million bucks a drop. Yeah. Like, he's definitely, like, according to these ladies, he's a piece of shit.

1:57:26 and he's a fucking pervert. Let's be honest. I know. Yes. posted the same video that he uh it was like a video one of the things that he was talking about But so did that Osho guy, that guy who ran that cult up in- we call them three color three dimensions of time all your experience of life is happening here but No, it's just stupid because you're suffering something that doesn't exist.

1:59:50 I mean, how many people know how to think about things correctly, how to manage the way your mind works? Oh, I'm going through hard times. Yeah, listen, I did too. And I know I'm not sounding very smart here, I'm an idiot. No, not really. Tyson Fury, 237. But essentially, it was just a keto diet, yeah. it's pretty much been established that you need carbohydrates.

2:02:05 for the fastest 100 miles run on a track. Yeah. Period. He's also got the one on the treadmill, and that's the one that popped up first. It was probably his first one, the first time he did it. That's it, in 13 seconds, 100 miles. Oh really? But he thinks it's the most nutrient dense food. I think for some people Steak and eggs? steak steak and eggs taking eggs

2:04:50 The most delicious. but I try to, because I just feel more alert when I haven't eaten, when I'm fasting. I will scarf that motherfucker down. I don't get hammered. You're fucking fasting all day With a glass of wine I know that's what we're doing here I'm going to work my ass off and get to this Unleashed or whatever then he was having a training session

2:06:33 I'd listen to it without a shadow of a doubt for the fight get a couple of beers Michael you're intox up for a press conference late. Yeah, he would do that. whatever negative aspect the edge off Every camp there was always one night. He said that he would self-sabotage before a fight he was going to the airport he could hardly string a sentence together he was so fucked up and he

2:08:57 And so when their mind plays tricks on them and they start having all the stress that they have to handle, You know. hilarious and he goes i did coke yeah kicked your ass i know i know that's a little insulting isn't He's fighting for the title, youngest ever champion. And, you know, Shogun. And so he's 22 years old. He's fighting for the title. Youngest ever champion.

2:10:20 We have to see. if they set that up right away, I mean, Yeah. I would assume that he's going to do great because, listen. The aggression, the ability to pull the trigger when he needs. Out of camp, light heavyweights are heavyweights. You know, and he's one of the greatest of all time. There's a lot of guys that just don't want to cut the weight or, you know.

2:12:04 I want to be a heavyweight, you know? Whoa. You don't have to cut weight. how about fucking He's really turned a corner. that fucking guy He was doing great. He's a contender. But the roar of the crowd and the commentary and everything, It's like a shitty cell phone video, We're friendly. No, no, he got up and fought fire with fire. Curtis Blades? Dawkers, Chris Dawkers.

2:15:18 And I was like how the fuck do And everyone that came on, fucking ball hit it like that and then a little bit off the ground I was that Because I beat that with a kick. So I think their math, like when Dana was saying that, I kick. It wasn't like a turning sidekick or anything. So I think they're mad. And who's tested how hard a Ford Escort hits as well?

2:17:06 i i have bad memories hitting those things i remember at a fairground i went to oh yeah and because i'm i'm trying to give some input on it i mean it could be just terrible timing and bad luck Misses the bag. Watch this. Let's break it down. No, he's not. It's the best place to stand to be in frame. Yeah. So if I'm trying to hit the microphone there, she's coming off to the side.

2:19:27 she could miss. Watch her feet as she turns towards him. if you swing a punch Depends on how viral you go. Jamie's Captain Tinfoil. is a conspiracy. You're like, no, it's true. There's a lot of delayed knockouts. Yeah, why is that? Who was supposed to fight? He's in bed. got here if he just fought I feel like in a – I'm just focusing on the belt. But then Dana

2:22:21 Oh, so he turned him down this week? Wow, he put his hand up to and said that his team said the fight is not happening. Yeah. he's a fucking killer, man. He can box. He's got experience. I'm Everybody's already kissing his ass. Wow, what a warrior. Stepping up last minute. He can box. and he fought a tough fight, goes the full distance, three rounds.

2:24:48 But when he level changed from having an underhook, level change to the legs, people try and It was just, boom. you know, who won the UFC but I still had to finish filming this movie I was on Right I mean, it would have been great. I think that might be why he did it. and fighting for the belt. You know, you can't stay at the top forever. His leg was destroyed. That's one of the

2:27:07 He falls back. And it's a year later, it would be Charles Oliveira. but he can take it too, man. Chandler. No, I'm just saying, like, who else is that? Gagey's very dangerous for a guy like Conor. His boxing's ferocious, too. You ever see him do that? And he did it to guys like Edson Barbosa. I don't think I could deal with the world It might happen.

2:29:31 the touch of death. because it happens. He goes, gets fucked up Yeah. He loves the fight game. Right, right, right. Buying yachts is a tricky way to live your life. Come on, man. It's tiny. Okay. Come on. they have to take apart a bridge to get it through. It's so big they have to dismantle a bridge to get it out of where they're building it. The guy was a dork for most of his life.

2:32:32 A super yacht so big it'll require a bridge to be moved to get out to sea. Like, why not build it somewhere else? I'm just guessing. Confiscating these yachts. It's 417 feet long. Get jacked and get a fucking smoke show girlfriend. with William Shatner. Every douchebag in Vegas. I'm a fan. It was a disco-themed party. Fuck yeah. Doesn't even include the mini yacht.

2:35:24 I would think it's more than. I think it's like $800 million. Roman Abramovich? Maybe Jeff's got a bargain. Like, I don't want to wait for the thing to be built. How's this guy beating you? Yeah, exactly. He'll be trounced by this guy. He's only got a half a billion dollar yacht. Pull up to Cannes. Yeah, exactly. $1.6 billion. Yeah, I think It's baller money.

2:37:17 Who? Yeah, CGI. Oh, it is. Okay. But okay, here it is. So is this eclipse that's it that's the boat looks like it's also a cgi yeah cgi yeah oh it is Look at the size of that guy. Helicopter pad. Because they don't have to make it public. Trillions. What do you mean he has his own disco? like you and you let's dance that sounds like a very expensive way of getting hookers that sounds

2:39:33 That ain't nothing, buddy. Yeah, yeah. He lives in a palace with 1,788 rooms, 257 bathrooms, five swimming pools, a mosque, Amazing. He does not give a people. He's probably so busy. You never know. I like when people win. That's a lot. 74 million. 2.7 billion just spending. That's right. I'd like to find out. Look, I'm happy. I might, yeah. But if you are already happy,

2:43:28 It's a nice car, yeah. I love that R8. I don't know Corvettes too well. You grab the steering wheel. They like to buy art. It's a big difference. money in the bank. And I remember the moment it happened, it was like a weight lifted off of me. You have to have a certain amount of cushion You're hustling. I mean, I'm always fucking working nonstop. It's not out of necessity as much.

2:46:08 I'm like, Daniel Lorenzo want to see me? You think it's a check, but he says, open it. She was the only person there. Because I wasn't very well known back then. Because everyone said there's no money to make in MMA. That's the only reason I'm getting into this. It wasn't. I felt when I was training to be a fighter, I felt finally. She was at home.

2:48:52 the unknown it just looms over you like you have no idea whether it's going to work out it's the grab your fucking knee the unknown Can't deal with the nerves, the anxiety, whatever you want to call it. But fucking game day. Apparently, he's going to have a boxing match with Shannon Briggs. He's fucking great. Epic. What an asshole. Huge guy. Take his shirt off

2:51:54 What the involvement is What they were gonna do Okay. Or is it an MMA round, like five minutes? I mean, I don't think, I don't know, honestly, what kind of, let's see here. What's his record, Rod Tank? look at that fucking record that is crazy Raja Damnam. It wasn't looking good for a minute, so then my coach was like was like right you need to go to Thailand and get this shit

2:54:52 called sore thumb difference about training in Thailand? It's hard to explain, but yeah. Very much enjoyed it. You know, you would think it's just Muay Thai, He beat cancer Yeah Literally just someone said to me was filming him if it's filmed every time he said he would spar there would be guys pull their phones out and One of my business managers did that. I'm doing a Muay Thai trip to Thailand.

2:58:08 and you've got these people dicking about. And you've got to go in. But when you're training for a fight, you're going in there and you're tired you beat up the sparring different name uh roca roca is a sunglassing company in Austin. Private gym. And you're not annoyed. You don't want to be annoyed. You want clarity of focus. It's great. Really? But wherever it is, yeah, I'd like to.

3:01:08 You know, I would have a hard time sometimes That's completely different. There's a lot of fakes, a lot of pretend, this great coach that's created all these great fighters. And then all of a sudden you've got champions galore. but it was this working on the mind for me. And, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was having a tough time and I snapped at him.

3:03:43 you're fighting for the world title next week. which by the way, with a smile on our face And I was like, I pulled up outside the gym one day. He said, but you're a champion to them. working with you this weekend no from the 21st of March. So is it of March. So here 22nd of March That's great. Anthony's a little more level-headed, so he's good for me.

3:06:23 Appreciate it.