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Joe Rogan Experience #10124 — Khalil Rountree Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. like a shack that's the sauna. It's a shack to the, and it's hot as shit. outside and there's a set of stairs where you walk literally right into the ice. Like at night we did When I do it at night, when I do the cold plunge and the sauna, Got you. Well, that's something that I think more athletes and more fighters in particular need to concentrate on is the recovery stuff.

3:22 Shout out to Lorenzo. That might be, I might be saying it wrong. Activate your inner fire. Just so many sensations that I felt that were just like, they felt like they were very healthy and very powerful. It's like this elevated place, but it's not medicated. know like stretching and breathing into stretches and yeah you know if you were I'm not like a heavy weed smoker, but I love to smoke before I train before I do any type of

6:52 and I couldn't figure out how to set up the omoplata. Just separate you from normal consciousness. yeah ability you know just like ability mentally physically emotionally right like yeah for sure Like I don't like it before learning techniques. That's all you need. because yeah that's one of my not my last fight but the fight before i walked out to protect your

9:48 They're like, ding, ding. When was Rapper's Delight? 1980. Wow. I hadn't been excited about a show in a long time. And Ashton Sanders, Saunders who plays the the rizza and just there is a scene in season two where he's sampling the music as he turns it down on the keyboard or on, this is like one of the best scenes in, Oh, wow. Absolutely. I mean that was season two but I was already sold on the show before you know how many seasons are

14:23 it's obvious that this is a piece of that other song this other song but it's like they're pretending they didn't do that you know what i mean like stealing is like there's Yeah. I can play by ear hmm yeah when you read it like if you write the music out they They were just copying it. Gave money back to the Verve apparently, or something. Probably.

17:42 See what happens. It's the same song. Interesting. What? That's his real name? You can't have four words in your name? He, Sting, sampled my guitar. So it's a different person. Does that sting? And the way he's complaining about not having a chateau in Italy or something. Yeah, You can't be mad at the other guy. and they make all the money. um you know they kind of trusted him and and did it and uh I guess it just it didn't end up really

21:58 Yeah, I mean, off the top of my head, I really can't think of someone else to compare. You really can't. Yeah, like a legit genius. Like the guy's a genius. That's incredible. like sharp lyrics it's it's exciting yeah there's there's still uh there's still a good number of um And like, yeah. Click on that. Yeah, I mean, it's hip-hop with like a back melody going on.

26:28 Yeah, you wanna hear it? Locke began to fillet the land. I think, I'm pretty sure. That's something I would sample. want to hear it I mean and then you think about it you go 50 years later Yeah. I've been, yeah, very inspired by a lot of just evolution of music, of like finance, right? I haven't been excited about something like this in a really long time.

29:54 90s you know so now just you know listening to people um really like really smart people even like uh yonmi park who you had here yeah and hearing her and how because they're the, what are they going to do with them? China doesn't accept them and they implemented into just like daily society i'm seeing more and more possibility and it's making to start one and I'm

33:14 Oh, this video only got 70,000 plays. I think of Bitcoin the same way I think about the early internet. States or another government might try it first they're gonna try to implement one thousand percent joe and like that's the things that like the more that i the more that i hear and that's the amount that you could buy no matter how much you had to start with right you know

36:18 and they're starving to death. So there's a company called Trade Station that wants to make Miami the new finance hub. never been interested in anything like that before you know and like like i think this was one of the It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. ever really a game plan joe like really like there has been in the past and i think just game plans for me sometimes require a bit too much thinking when in reality like yeah there's some thinking

39:24 Yeah. concern, is that prepared for no i didn't prepare for it at all it was just it was really a mood i've been training yeah yeah yeah and i don't see any fighters that are like i don't have any really like role models It's not enough for the rest of your life and you can't do it forever. like the man the the the person who like you you kind of have to kill me to beat me in a way. When did that shift for you?

42:49 When he fought Neil Magny, see if you can find that fight. But I felt like he went over to Bellator, and I wish he kind of didn't. on the bag afterwards and I was like that is so interesting because it really does work. But when people call it the oblique kick all the time when you're doing it to the thigh. Bruce Lee threw that kick a lot. I guess because the foot's pointed outside, you know, like versus John Jones.

44:58 difference his big toe is up that guy's big toe is down got Got you. Well, there. It's a weird. Look, why can't you do it? I mean, Dukus is an insane pain. Let's not watch it. Although it's legal. He kept doing it to my knee. know i'm gonna do it with with my full strength because no no different than kicking the shit inside heel hook and you can't stomp the knee like of course like heel hooks are fucking devastating

47:58 It was before the prac neo fight the one that was in Abu Dhabi. Why were you thinking about ending? Uh, a part of inside of me that's Thai, you know? And I'm like, I belong here. Wow. And so, um, I just, And we can make it for the WBC heavyweight belt. But now, like I said, I'm worried. yeah for all of 2021 or 2020 and um my fiance and i were there and we decided like we

51:13 and we were just in Thailand together, um, during the lockdown. So we both went back to New York belongings all my training camp supplies stuff like that and does your girl go with you or do Some guys are more comfortable with their family, the mountains or a big bear or something where like, hey, or even build something like, you know, Cowboys Ranch, something very small that, hey, we're in camp.

53:39 Yeah. Yeah. That dude needs his mind. balance. If you have shit balance, when you throw a kick, when you, you should be able to throw a kick when you you should be able to throw a kick check a kick and land back in your over the past year, I love my clinch game i'm so It's a real underrated aspect of Muay Thai, the clinch game and then the trip game.

56:51 deliver full strikes and then defend fully right um so they have a very like simple way of putting Incredible, right? I congratulated him. I mean, it's nice to kind of catch that bug for a bit you know what i mean and like capitalize on like hey when and then he's firing back. I think it was a hook kick. Yeah, he's incredible. I mean, Chito is now one of the top guys in that.

59:29 Cejudo, Peter Yan. Cody Sanhagen, and then TJ Dillshaw. And Sanhagen's a fucking killer too, man. Right? He was all freaked out and just fired up and just couldn't wait to get in there. Yeah. Punches were coming at him His efficiency Yeah, I'm going to watch it for sure. This is the way he did it. Oh, bro. It's just Stevenson coming into his prime and letting everybody know

1:02:37 It was amazing. I'd like to see you fight anybody in the division. I was so impressed with the fight with Carl, but I've been impressed with a lot of your fights. It just, I feel like there's two yous. Yeah. There's you motivated and prepared But the motivated, prepared Khalil I was at home watching. lock down let's what's the mission okay this is You know, I have somewhere that I look back and say, like, okay, I got to get back to my girl.

1:04:21 I do, like, fitness stuff at, like, stuff at Chelsea Piers, just fitness gym. No. You know, your strikes are so devastating, you would assume that you're constantly working Live life. I don't know if you saw it. the movie's not terrible it's definitely like it's watchable and it's enjoyable there's some it shows and if you're a mean? I think it shows.

1:06:41 They want you to throw the fight. Good to see you on the outside, convict. See what he's done? Right. Yeah, we shot it, you know, we shot it in 12 days. We have families. I think it's something that I've found love for, and I'm just like fighting. your eggs in one basket. I'm sorry. BJ Penn said it best. He was on the podcast last week. He said, I was doing Andre during that fight. Yeah.

1:11:14 43. Does it say 2005? So he made his debut at UFC 28. You know, like he goes in there, like he's still determined. But there's only a handful of guys that, you know, that can do it and that love it. And one of the things that I think you could do And you've been around the world. Specifically Khalil viewpoint on things. Yeah, that's cool, man. It's not hard to do in terms.

1:13:56 You're curious. It doesn't require much. that I use to earn Satoshi's, man. And that accepts Bitcoin. on i want to let everybody know that really he's the guy that's that's patient zero in the podcast Do you remember? he 100% is the original. you know, So what was it called? and they're pulling up his podcast early, early in the day. You could totally do it.

1:17:17 I'm the guy with the questions. someone on that's a Bitcoin like we're talking about like likes and engagement and everything like that. That's a big thing with about things whether it's uh your engagement about music or your engagement about, and we all gather inspiration from other people you know and that's one of the things that makes it's not hard i think

1:21:21 one like well i was a little clunky on that one or that was good because I did this. I'm going to do that more often and then just keep building on it. Maybe he will. man when we go in there and we fight we're both equally putting in the same amount of time and energy in camp and in theory yeah and it almost it's it it sucks because when we're champions is kind of when all of the opportunities

1:24:04 And we're not champion yet, but we can help millions of people just based off of our own stories you get me and like there's one point in time you were suicidal and you feel like you have a message that you could family or a coach that's like hey man come back to the gym tomorrow like you're doing good you know i was born is the day that i plan to do it and it was only in like three days joe and i was like

1:27:10 today but like it's not just that one there's a lot and it's like and if i don't get back to At that time, I was living in a two-bedroom apartment but excuse me it was almost like a and between the four of us we could barely even make that every month um and just really had no like worthless because these guys were playing on stage and I'm sitting here like just selling

1:30:25 there's just like the struggling, hopeless type of place. And I was very unhealthy. And if, I mean, because tomorrow I'm just going to wake up to the same thing. Right. So, um, I think that might've to that. Like I was purposely, I'm going to smoke two packs, you know, I'm going to drink the whole healthy. So just that one night of excess. Yeah it didn't just stop yeah it didn't stop like

1:33:26 something different I think I want to like train MMA and fight MMA and you had And they were like, oh, this is Khalil. Right. Was that in Vegas? And that last tour, I used all the money to collect all my tips and my savings, Pohada. Every sparring session was a fight. there were just some bad eggs man man, bad seeds, you know, under cordero and same era as vanderlake and anderson all them he was just like the younger

1:37:28 was with Daniel Cormier before he even started training MMA. What? Yeah. Dude, he came in. I was and then i came back the next day with to the gym feeling a lot better because yeah daniel and taking our body to its physical limit as much as possible. really, really fast for sure. You know? And that's, it wasn't a secret diet and anything yeah he was kind of lost and overweight and the first time he went on a run he could couldn't

1:41:26 so do you remember specifically when you realized as you started training that this was for you i could only breathe then i could enjoy this you know if i could breathe then i could enjoy this smoke a lot right yeah isn't that crazy like a lot of thai champions smoke yeah it's more more of the Right. When did you notice that you felt differently? So every single time, but the third day was like confirmation that I just felt so much peace.

1:45:57 Like I've been training a bit. Yeah, he knew it. Right. chicken, rice, broccoli, steamed fish, you know, things like that, and then i you know cook at home my brother and i'd cook eggs and chicken and broccoli and bring whole foods right real stuff did you you feel the change in your body from that And then that became kind of like my new addiction.

1:49:43 and was that a local smoker no shin guards And I had the 205 title and the middleweight title because I went down to 185. Yeah. Yeah, when he got his face fixed, it was so bizarre. Yeah, it was completely flat. That's how I am. I had mine done. Exact same nostrils. Wow. pulled back almost they did plastic surgery i mean mean, it was for fighting, but it was, you know,

1:52:45 that shit man yeah well you've managed to avoid it you look beautiful you got no problems at all Yeah. How many guys at 85 are that big? It was painful, man. I was listening to other fighters. Oh even nutrition. I was listening to other Yeah, barely feeding myself. And, you know, we were just, like, eating. You know what I mean? then I actually, energy levels feel, energy levels felt great. Yeah. Yeah. Energy levels felt great.

1:57:21 You fought like a predator. what I would notice is when I would work out really hard, And he believes that to thrive, to have your body operate optimally, and like if i like cheese i'm gonna throw some cheese it's like some raw cheese on my burger I mean, when I went there, I was really impressed. you know like i'm just an idiot like that in some areas of life but um i definitely love the pi for

2:00:55 independently and we'd find stuff in there that's not supposed to be in there yeah it wasn't steroids What do you take? I hope no one's listening to this. any other um like carbohydrate drink that you would drink like pre-workout pre or uh during or intro workout um they have It does make sense, yeah. supplementing were you doing any strength and conditioning training?

2:03:41 Like I'm going to take you to the next level. I've done it all, I feel like. I'm back in Vegas for training camp. But I want to make sure that I'm, you know, that I got some stuff done. You're thinking about life. Thank you. in the pandemic god damn where's he at now at home Fuck I talked to Nurse a little bit Um And the guys who didn't go under We test everybody here, man.

2:07:03 we'll find you i would love that yeah i just can't imagine that it's smart to not. I don't know. I'd really like that. I guarantee you there's a place out there. Yeah, I was at Black House. hey, dude, the numbers in the store look great. and Ed's like, yeah, man, we'll find you a fight. And Jorge manages people as well, right, Linares? Joinha. Yeah? Yeah, I think so And Jorge manages people as well right Linares

2:09:00 Wrestling From Black House? Yeah, I was living at Jessica Penney's. pads with me he's like i know we never worked together but like i think you should come and hit some pads with me. He's like, I know we never worked together, but I think you should come train at Syndicate. The first one, yeah. So how did you get to Thailand? to go learn how to clinch.

2:11:24 Well, now probably. in bangkok in bangkok thailand um the the family that runs pet indy uh the father of of the family fighters like sagat fought under pet yanni back in the day um so it just comes from that like Yeah, that's all I was really doing. didn't flinch he just dealt with it You changed the way you were fighting. wanted to like stay there forever i start like just from the everything the the people the food

2:15:37 The land of smiles. Yeah. like live there on my own for like almost three years wow um and so like i picked up enough to where like i could live day to day and take my taxis and like i said order my food you were in order to do that if it's too firm it's going to be readable. Like, you know, your opponent will be able to read it and it won't have the same effect.

2:17:52 it not it has to turn over you know a lot of people that throw kicks uh especially a roundhouse revelation that this is what you needed um yeah yeah because the first day that i ever various specific things pet yandi is they have great clinchers they have great clinchers um round he's covered in blood but he's just like he doesn't go down you know so all the fighters

2:21:02 How happy were they when you went on and been hit and i mean i had to talk to you I was like yeah what are you doing because Right, right. yeah but when would you do that um I'd say like mostly when ufc would call me so just like Their new gym. Yeah, so they've got real Thai trainers. know you don't have to really worry about anything other than waking up and going to train and whenever you're not training then you can go and relax by the

2:24:41 the locker room is about the size of this. you know like when they go in there and fight there's so much respect before figured out knees better than anybody yeah it's really kind of amazing yeah i agree and i think and seeing the type of life that it's providing for these people, Right. and so he'll look do you know what it means it's like like this is like three to one like three to

2:28:17 And so you got one like. And that's how they kind of collect their money. Yeah. I mean, if you're dealing with significant blows, you can kind of tell, but sometimes you can tell plus the impact sound adds to your understanding of what kind of force was involved in that strike. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. Like if they had like a specific person in the truck

2:31:32 People that are striking heavy prefer striking. one round where Ortega almost got him in a mounted guillotine and then almost got him in a triangle And then he caught him in a triangle afterwards that. And at the end of the fight, he's beating the fuck out of, at the end of the round, rather, he's beating the fuck out of Ortega. you know I was so impressed with Volkanovski's fight with zombie that I

2:33:52 And he's so driven, dude. yeah he's driven driven driven but you know he's fucking he's technical too man his striking is I think during the pandemic, though, he basically just trained in Australia. and just they were shutting down the whole entire areas off like one case. He moved. He's like, that doesn't even make sense. It was just so much panic. So many things were rushed. So much money was

2:36:48 It was also super authoritarian. Dude, it was kind of cool, actually, at first. in new york was stocked of of everything like just like cleaning supplies so then she came out can breathe in that was causing defects in newborn children because of all the pollution and the There was a curfew of like four o'clock so in between like you know in the morning time and up until four o'clock we could at least drive to the grocery store but even then there was like a

2:39:34 because you have six cases we're gonna keep you locked down so they were finding where these cases And they kind of lost track of where it was coming from then, you know, like it starts Like George, my coach at the time, I would hit pads with him. We want to get this thing under control. So that caused a lot of the people to go back to their what I was like fuck I just have to go home for a bit then did you ever think about going back

2:43:17 so I don't know if I'll be able to do it in this break. outdoor stuff yeah you know yeah a lot of cool great places to run we run the mountain every you know he's like it's you versus the elements at the end of the day. But that's what's up. Thanks. And hopefully I'll be calling your fight in July or August. All right. I want to inform more people beautiful yeah all right all right thank you bye everybody Thank you.