Joe Rogan Experience #10126 — Eryk Anders Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. What is the process of you getting down to 185? even if you have two solid months to prepare and lose the weight? does food taste after those two months uh everything in my life is extreme like if i'm not and how many calories. I can only eat 300. the second time, So when you get to 185 and you do it correctly you have Because there's been talk about that mostly from me.

3:31 you put too much on yeah yeah i'm not moving like i was getting ready for the fight so I mean, he's long and lean and everything. they're much bigger uh for the most part than everybody else in the weight class like ushman's same card that uh cormier and uh john jones fought the first time so we went and i saw those two to the side you know of course I missed away I was like 189 but I did I'm not

6:21 So what was your transition from football into MMA? That's not what happened. So I just found myself being like mad and frustrated that, you know, No, like 24. then you know you kind of get shit on and you know so you just walk around bitter until you He's like, all right, cool. Yeah, Walt's big. and uh but dude i fell in love with that i was like dude it's gonna be fun to like

10:04 Well, that even works in guys in combat sports that are learning MMA. Exactly. you had to do is play it safe in the fifth round he would have won that fight Tell your mom that. Or say it in a different way. Sure, sure. Like, if you've never watched MMA before and you watched that crazy fucking fight, watching it on the phone i was like dude i think i need to pull over dude i'm watching the phone

12:55 but he's really good. and punching trees like very strange yeah he seems like a super odd dude he was doing something Did you ever see any of that? But, like, did he have a submission in? Is he fucking tapping? That's a fucking tap, man. It's interesting because you really can't do that. I got to stop. But still, that is tapping. I forget who he was fighting, but the guy...

15:19 It was Murillo Bustamante and Matt Lindlund, Yeah, this is a fight. So he got him down. So he tapped him in the second round with an arm bar And he started them again, like from the stand-up. At least you have to give me my position back. So he's on like a low single, and Big John, again, stops the fight. It was like right when I quit. But this was a big moment.

18:33 That's like the evolution. I was training at Danaher's yesterday, And I'm like, that's the difference in the game. What do you think you're going to do when you stop? So a lot of people always like about So I just put everything into real estate. You're a tough motherfucker, man, like dismantling right no it's not like the my leg wasn't compromised right she

21:40 So, you know, that second round got pretty crazy. I don't know. Yeah, I got dropped, but, like but as soon as I hit the ground, I was like, oh, shit, how did I get here? So, you know, he'd be like, Let's go get on the roof twice in a night yeah I think my coach at the time I'm sure that he was on dope I was like, all right, cool. Oh, my God. They're like, hey, they want you to have your blood work, you know,

25:17 what if the guy that I'm fighting did the same thing, of these wild promotions There's a lot of those coaches like that out there. all the time and he kind of suspected yeah you all right dude if i can slap him in the face like Don't believe it. just making that commitment to puncture your vein and pump that in there i think that some Oh, now I know why people like this.

28:11 this is for you too if you want it. that the human body has to these drugs and he knows it, He's very disappointed. Yeah, I guess. Well, you know, he's very disappointed yeah i guess well you know he It's the choice to start doing so much drugs just kind of completely eliminates your ego and kind of helps you get over that kind of stuff. I'm not sure if I believe that.

30:54 i was like dude i just fucked up dude this is yeah i thought that i'm dead i thought i was dead I was like, dude, don't touch me. It was just because a lot of people were like, I want to take it to my limit. And then you do that, and it's like, dude, fuck it, you know. And I was like, it's not fun anymore. I don't wanna like I hope I don't act out like you know kind of like

33:29 this guy's fucking it's not enjoyable anymore. and I would take a 200-milligram edible in my driveway, and I would go, let's go. And I left Vegas and landed back in Vegas. This is not how this was supposed to go, man. Kind of want to get off of this particular airplane right now. and you're like, oh, fucking pay these guys. Well, that's one good thing about training all the time is you're always tired.

35:39 Or whatever. What do you do when that happens? perez my second fight and dude i trained my ass I was running, and then I'm warming up in the back, I'm going to fucking end it. And I did not want that to happen, but luckily it went my way. I've watched him fight on tv and it's like oh fuck dude he's just picking and popping but dude he's And then he's helping him block.

38:13 Well, the Calvin Cater fight was the one when he was really the most in the zone. Yes. And he got outboxed. also got superb boxing yeah and he got out You know who I appreciated when I saw them fight live? Nick at his prime was amazing. Nick a couple of times in that fight. Because he just nukes everybody. So they, I mean, they went to war, and that is like one of nick diaz's things he talks shit to you and he never throws full blast

41:36 And this fight goes into deep water one of the best performances like when to throw hard right like half the time he's pity patting you but when he's got openings Yeah, he's so tired. and he got him in this position, he would have been able to really hurt him. I would say, like, the current is, like, super strong. Wow. That's pretty wild. swimming around with

44:31 The thing about it is like you can't move good in there. before i black out yeah it's not fun but it's like those fights like you it's it's interesting I like the brawlers. is, I think he's six feet tall. yeah yeah that is a long reach the thing about jared is like he's so shredded and lean You know when you really see it? Kind of, like, blitzed him a lot.

47:24 Like when Calvin throws his hands in combination, Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. Speaking of that, he's 6'1". It's hard to tell. Yeah, he was way bigger. And the knockout of Brunson was a big one. other than the main event. Unless Strickland gets hit. to take um pereira down oh the greek guy yeah and you know pereira won in the second round with that Well, what Alex has done that's very interesting to me

50:44 that's when Glover really made his last run Probably not, right? He just goes hard. But I can't. So I was like, dude. oh, you thought I thought that would be easy. Mousasi for the Bellator on earth and Johnny won every fucking round. Those are the fights I like to bet on, though. And this is after Gegard had destroyed Austin Vanderfield. I'm pretty sure he submitted him, if I remember correctly.

54:12 thing about like jiu-jitsu and martial arts or whatever like boxers like He's beat everybody, man. 28 knockouts. and I was that a cool thing about mma there's not a whole lot of like uh there's a lot more humble people in there's like choke you unconscious That guy's going to win. yeah yeah they're they're built like tex like a ryan hall yes perfect example dude i got

57:39 All of them. A guy who doesn't know jiu-jitsu gets, and he's rolling just doing jiu-jitsu with a guy like him, and he gets your back. Poirier fight. They're all scared to do it. because I remember when he kind of got on this roll, kind of eliminated all the negative people out of his life really uh so I guess probably started Like, versus Islam Makhachev

59:47 I meant Charles. Bro, he's as heavy as you right now, though. I don't know if he's motivated by money. like what's the number that has to come out before it's like the record skips i don't know yeah exactly what did Floyd? Almost none, right? He goes, Triple G ain't nothing. I don't know. Where the fuck did he fight when he fought that exhibition Arabia he walked around with it was it Dubai where the way the fuck did he fight when he

1:03:26 Bernard was never out of shape. Never opened up. It's good for the soul, man. He was like 190 pounds. It's phenomenal. Yeah. There it is. was yes the from Brockton he was the he's the from brockton he was the man To this day, man. War! He was an excellent boxer shredded and you know there was like he had a chip on his shoulder too because like for years

1:08:07 Uh-uh. Hagler had muscles on the side of his fucking head. workouts where they take like like a like an iron neck. I just think there's a correlation between like the strength Well, we vary a lot. And he eventually stopped him You think Colby took Ushman down? You go with the Olympic wrestler. You got to beat Colby if you want a shot at the title. The second one he dropped him, hurt him bad twice.

1:12:17 Oh, shit, okay. before that man it's crazy you see some of these guys like they're beating like the ease in which they're beating the top guys like the fuck. but sometimes he don't show up on fight night. him he hit him with a good punch and rocked him a little but then he wanted to beat the shit out too it's like now you're fucked for maybe the rest of your life dude when fray mir did that's in

1:15:10 I feel like that one would echo. He got me like that. I don't want to go my though here it is so he rolls and see jacare's right arm is because he had my leg, too, so I was, like, kind of doing a split, And then, so I was like, I didn't even realize. Just no I think no who knows what the frank mir would have happened to him if he didn't get hit by that car

1:18:10 He's just started kicking the bag. I mean, he's throwing kicks with it. you know how dudes in baseball and he was saying that it's very rare that guys have done that, I wonder if that's possible. I broke it fighting Theodoro. there I was like I see the x-ray I was like dude that's why this shit hurts You're not hesitant. I've had that Tommy wow how many different surgeries have you had just those two no i've had quite a few how many uh

1:22:12 And I kind of fell. And I tried to take a step I thought I had dislocated I said, When did it feel like you could start working out again? It was hot as fuck. This was before you were fighting? Oh, that's because there's so much sports going on down there. come to Birmingham to do surgery, get surgery. you're not there yet yeah is this a genetic predisposition or is this from getting socked

1:25:54 would never suggest that anybody did that never of course not never but i'm glad he did it yeah Well that's why he explained to the referee than you're competing in a sport He's a fucking savage. And then he pops out. Fuck. Like when I was younger like an ACL injury that your career is done, right? they're going to have an answer. cartilage yeah meniscus and cart like that's here's another thing kamaro usman his knees are fucked

1:29:14 It does not have big legs his upper body's fucking yeah, right, but his legs I don't think he can do that. Yeah. Now at 85, he's just lighting it up. dazed and wobbled and you know kind of lose their durability yeah i don't know about the technical IVs. Well, they can mask steroid use. You know, when I first started working for the UFC, I'm going to be fucking Hercules

1:32:16 it's like a Nigerian root, I'm taking like Makaru and Yo M. Bean. I haven't got the results back. And then, you know, maybe after like a month or two, They make it off of a Mexican wild yam. I don't understand how they do it. They can find out whether or not the testosterone that's And if they extracted testosterone from animals because female chimps are promiscuous so when female chimps are promiscuous the because they have the bigger nuts. Yeah? Yeah, but you know why? It's interesting.

1:35:00 gorillas have tiny dicks. I've seen a little, you know, animal planet or whatever. the pregnancy hormone progesterone by what now is known as the marker degradation produced from But this does have something to do with testosterone, doesn't it? So we see used for estrogen replacement therapy, vaginal dryness. It's crazy how people know ayahuasca. plants they're not sure if they're saying uh mushrooms because you know psilocybin mushroom

1:38:22 i think i've gotten pretty close to that i've taken i was like dude this fucking sucks dude i'm just like giggling and laughing just like you know million plus aliens. I did the MEO. But I was still, like, present. Yeah, I was like, oh, fuck, here we go, dude. yeah just you know just relax and uh you know see where you go from here whenever that's what it

1:41:38 they have unlimited cardio. stories about him being like a dick and I was like you yeah I would think that you were like so is volkanovski so that fight this weekend whoa yeah i know that one like those first two fights I don't know what the fuck's going to happen in that fight. how crazy is Sean Strickland to take that fight? So Young Punisher versus Sugar Sean.

1:43:58 but they just moved it to the next pay-per-view or the Long Island card at the end of the month. Ian Gary versus Gabriel Green. They don't have him in high-profile bouts. Oh, interesting. Brad DeVarez, Duplassius, that's a good fight. Okay. Yeah, there's no duds on that card. which is crazy jesus yeah at 155. this looks like do you think there should be more weight classes

1:47:01 Like, he's so big for 205. I mean, look at that. That's one of the crazy things about Canelo is that Canelo's willing to go So when I fight at 85, I know that I've crossed all the I's So you feel that even, so it's not just that at 85 you're really big for the weight class, I don't feel as, like, prepared fighting at 205 because I know I've had those cheeseburgers.

1:49:26 you know so if i just like ate well i wouldn't be 230 right you know but well i want to enjoy my Nobody cuts weight? Leonardo DiCaprio? Oh, yeah a long time ago yeah right so like all like the fraudulent checks and stuff for having bad drug testing, fights they have uh grappling matches and when it comes to just straight mma they allow a lot of you're not going to lay there.

1:51:37 head in side control and you realize that from side control the whole the game scroll down a It used to be one hand was down, they were still up. That's a perfect example because in that position in the UFC, can't lay there like that that's nasty when I fought Tim Williams he like like, not even, like, one that. Diamond cup. Every single nut shot, everybody like drops on the ground.

1:54:11 Right when the hand lifts up is when you land the shot. But that's why I like what one FC is doing better, you know? on top so why do I get penalized right the soccer kick on the ground is just to be over with i was like i'm just gonna just gonna ride it out dude ride it out that dude thinking about retiring you know and you know as well as anybody that when you're one foot in one

1:56:36 Yeah. Stevie Ray sent it to me, and I watched it, and I was like, what are you doing here? Now watch. He's holding on to his ribs. Twister finish in MMA I thought my uh trap or my neck was just tight on that side and I couldn't turn it but then I went Yeah. Really? was like dude what am I gonna do don't be fucking paralyzed we talk about and a bike tire.

1:59:59 stem cells with discs They get smooshed down from years of grappling. just gonna hurt uh when that you know, whatever the Like, there was just no position that I could, like, put my neck where the shit didn't hurt. Oh. Like that same thing was happening. Yeah. but keep you coming back kind of thing. stem cells. I had a full length Like, you're going to fuck your shoulder up.

2:03:42 Always aching and shit. like that yeah dude it's works wonders one thing they are doing with meniscus is they're So you're getting, like, the exact number or as close to as you can with the injections. You know, there's that bio-accelerator place in Columbia. He can do some stuff here, but he can't do anything here like Like everything that he wants to do here, he can do some stuff here, but he can't

2:05:40 stem cells? Well, yeah. I think like 30 years from now. This is going to be I'll be okay with that. They're able to do that now in certain animals. that's not what happens but that's not really like when you were young i wish i well it's funny because like i started playing football before all And I paid money for your braces and your teeth. and my helmet was fucking wobbling around.

2:09:21 There's a cone off to the side in the middle. running down on a kickoff are you familiar with football yeah so i ran was running down on a kickoff. So I was just like, fuck it, and just closed my eyes and dove in there. And then like five minutes later, all right, kickoff team, go again. they're like and you're done Pfft, bitch. there was a guy named Junior Seau,

2:11:52 It's like, oh, fuck, dude, you saw what I just did to that guy. know like the risks that you're taking so yeah sign the waiver and go sign the waiver and also dude I fucking I loved football I like everything that came with football I thinking slow i got to like think about what i'm thinking about but everybody's like that It's like APOE4. like, make it move anyways and you know the hits and football hits and tackles and stuff like make it move faster you know so you know you know you're feeling it at 40 50 instead of 70 or 80 right when you go back and you know if like if you think about like your your times

2:15:25 Like you might have killed that guy. you know I had quite a few big moments yeah other side of the coin there's no fucking lower feeling than getting your ass whooped uh in front of you know not only the crowd but the people on tv and uh you know so but i'll take But that was not a loss like a, you know, that was not like Tiago Santos' loss. I had his back

2:17:14 pushing myself fighting for the championship Yeah. Dude, there's some fights, like, when I made my debut, I had zero nerves, and then someone puts a banana peel out here, and I fucking slid. I don't know, and I was really confident going into that fight because I didn't think that he could wrestle. That's what you were talking about earlier when you were talking about Khabib and Usman and these guys that like every single time they're mentally there yeah

2:19:37 He's for sure finna get a gas beat or whatever. I think you should have played. But the judges said I didn't. I mean, what do you mean? How much more money could I have invested in, like, mid-states and oil and gas companies And Brandon thought he won. That fight was so goddamn close. I think Glory uses four or five kickboxing. Yeah, I have to go and watch that again.

2:22:21 versus Combosis, right, go into that final round knowing that you're. when people are just being strategic and smart. Woo! What a crazy elbow, too. fucking like oh shit dude yeah but roadkill scary too the the when the guys stiffen up and just but Yeah. many different promotions and the UFC only has one. But the only deaths that I know of in MMA are either people with a pre-existing condition

2:24:51 But it's over. sparring partner you're getting fight brain damage yeah when. When you spar, do you spar hard? Like, how do you spar? So, yeah, we're getting in there. unconscious isn't that crazy he had been ko twice in training yeah yeah i think it's crazy how what the fuck was that, dude? You know, It's sad. It's just some people are more durable for whatever reason, genetically,

2:27:41 and then other people were KOing him. That motherfucker The way Chuck explained it to me Yeah, if I could brace swelling inside your skull right now is what's happening well that's the saddest part right when you when you see the speech patterns change and then they you know it's like a long pause i'm like forget like they're high are you good You're constantly traveling to fights, constantly training and meeting people.

2:30:02 You're good. So I enjoyed it. Actually, I did. Hopefully.