Joe Rogan Experience #10130 — Will Harris Transcript
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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience You are the best. You're the best at it. It was, you know, before I spent a year around fighters And basically, I just put all my eggs in one basket. much involved in it and then when you see behind the scenes the struggle with weight cut dealing Elbows, knees, all that shit. It was this pound for pound number one, the champion, everybody gunning for you.
3:24 He was just dominating the fight. What are you talking about? because I was like shooting subtle shots of the screen. So, like, he had his photographer in there as well, Patty Cutts. When Mike Tyson got knocked out He goes in there, he stomps everybody, he wins Somebody was going to catch him, and he was going to be out like that. And I was with grown men in the car and he was listening to All Eyes On Me and they were just crying. And I was just like, this
6:52 Did you ever see him when he was 17 on the street corner? And everybody was freaking out. Yeah. There was dirty cops in L.A. that were getting hired to do hits. It's a pretty in-depth article It just says, Think about how popular those guys are. wrong person when he didn't have to and it all would happen yeah Yeah. Like, I mean, remember in the casino footage,
9:47 stormed to find him. and everybody, they was riding around looking for him. And they said Baby Lane grabbed the gun and he the one that fired the shots in the car. I don't know if you know who that is. 20 minutes later, Imagine waking up every day knowing like if I put this on, I might lose my life because somebody that looks like me want to take it.
11:58 That's the counter. Yeah, he got killed. And this is my best friend I grew up with. to that but it's like bro people make youtube anytime he posts a video on his channel it's a million youtubers countering got killed for his jury. You had that conversation I know. I remember you told me years That's nice enough to get robbed. And I'm like, yo, I don't even like what the fuck.
14:32 It's bad. crazy purge safety law it's uh they're essentially eliminating cash bail for almost everything No bail. Yeah, they're fucked. You know, I wanted to just, I've never ever in my life was, I'm from Southern Illinois, So I found this guy on his roommate app to where I found somebody to take over my lease. He was like, listen, I'm going to have it fixed.
18:07 Like, hey, well, I don't know if you know this, but this is going on. Squatting situation. in court on october 6th past the lease as well? Like October, November, They're not letting you stay. showing up at work she wouldn't respond she just stopped paying she didn't pay for a year what the fuck yeah and he couldn't do nothing about it do a fucking thing
21:00 but do you penalize them if they go on to succeed in something else or do they still get that that because they own government assistance and things like that so it's like a thousand dollars in la Hey, don't say Mr. Harris. I was getting paid through PayPal and fucking wires, Free for now. What the fuck? A legitimate job ad. The problem with AP is they're fucking all subject to intimidation. A legitimate job ad.
24:01 is this? Listed duties on call 24 7 including holidays and weekends I feel like someone made that Let's find out here. It was on the site, and then people freaked out, They hire 87,000 people. If necessary. And work a minimum of 50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours. That's why I'm moving. Really? And we went over there. Like if you drop a diamond on the ground, someone will pick it up and bring it to the police and they'll bring it back to you.
28:31 I love the freedoms that we have here and, sore thumb uh and people just staring at you i i get some of those looks when i'm in asia but over I wouldn't say I've plateaued, or Darren Till may come to the PI or Darren of me earlier, me next to Anthony Bourdain. advantages of some of those things. Yeah, I'm going to be in London that day. But when you, like, from my perspective, I'm going to have some bias.
31:19 I feel like they don't respect him in the U.K. still. Yep. is going to take him out in two? Two. but something happened when that dude had a kid. He's straight. I told you in 2019, them guys was different. And Javier Mendez has said this publicly, so I'm not saying anything. like he was that guy. That's the reason why training, getting ready for the fight.
33:49 i always called eddie because his knowledge on fighting he told me nate nate was going to do And it's like, is this going to happen? They're not going to sit there and give you a pity party just because they lost. Yeah, he's special too, man. But the Olivera-Malkachev fight, that's the big one. Ooh, look at that. Olivera didn't submit Mike. Caught him.
36:11 What did he do with Gaethje? He said he never got hit like that before. That's warfare. I filmed him that week. Some people are not just, you know what I mean? No. That's not three. And that's his reputation. Well, that's what his coach said. He kept training while he had COVID and he was hospitalized twice. sure that before he even enters camp that he's close. I mean, it's not like the guy gets fat.
39:03 They just fight at their natural weight? And Kobe. I think his idea was like, fuck that. They think Khabib is going to come back one day, Like, let this man be happy and overweight and retired they classes. Soon as And I'm like, yo, bro, like Khabib is not coming back and Khabib don't care. That's so funny, that saying, what he said. Rode him like a horse.
41:35 not... Look, if you think it's boring, then And there's a lot of guys like Curtis Blades who were predominantly grapplers, Which one would you choose? I don't believe he can. I mean, it's crazy. He took especially if you're not cheating. He broke everybody with a pace. Like Tony, like he always said, I saved the card again. He certainly could have.
44:10 That's the conversation with Kamaru. But when you get your, like, after that fight, I was talking to Michael Johnson and Rashad Evans in the back. That's his championship heart. going to fight sometime Leota Machida. Just take time off. You know, I heard conversations like that after Ronda Rousey I'm like, oh, my God. champion. Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
46:17 When she knocked out Cyborg, she Probably. Well, she's about to be a free agent. See if Kayla Harrison, see if, I thought she just signed. To me, it's like, all I hear is these people complain, But Eric Anders is not quite at that same level. And then, like I said, seek him out for advice. Here it is. Right? Yeah, that's Pacheco. Yeah, Larissa Pacheco.
49:27 Fucking shoulders on that lady. She is she a beast see look at that. Look at there Because she's not going to get Kayla Harrison in that position. Yeah. Yeah, two times. That's just the problem, though, bro. How many... So she ain't fighting anytime soon. Trust me. No, she had a boxing match with a dude. Look at that. Oh, yeah? Because a gay man might whoop your ass.
52:08 would you feel sympathy for her? love or you care about or you're interested in and you saw them get their ass whooped, Nah. It's not fighters. No. Oh, my God. Look, look. So they run over. Bro, I'm going to London with a Timex on. That's like a- Richard Milley? I think it's Richard. Yeah, so we, somebody, that's a Richard Millay, right? That's like a.
54:12 I saw Sylvester Stallone say it. He'll buy a watch and then sell it a few months later and get $25,000 more. Getting to the top. And you said, fuck all the mother bitches yeah tell me what was your i asked every single married man is because i'm trying to But that evil comes on you sometimes. And it's ruined my life. Yeah. They go to the bathroom, they're checking their app.
56:46 You become soulless. And then I saw the internet Stop themselves and all day they're just being negative on people's stuff. And I'm sitting there thinking like, I love the kid. all they're doing is fishing for compliments to themselves so they can feel like something. Look, Brandon's my boy, but he needs a handler. if you're spending any time any time you're a busy man, you're a family man, you got kids, you got a wife, you got a shit to do, and you're spending any time arguing on Twitter, that is a waste of your life.
59:44 And a woman telling me she is not interested in men Like literally, I've seen 20 to 30 women Is it a crime if I lie? What were they thinking? Yeah, she just had a bad reaction to the vaccine, and she was bleeding for four months straight. So, you know, half the life is gone. But I might be. Mapogo. Mapogo. Yeah, like the Mapogo Lions. Like a clan. That's a young lion.
1:02:56 They kill so many other lions. But the only thing on the island to eat was water buffalo. a slow motion clip of a he one of those guys on the safari on the back of the truck he had a camera is crack. That's the new era of crack. Because we all have our faults. It's like Joe Rogan loneliness in America. And you know what happens to those guys? and they're always looking for that juice.
1:06:10 is the grass greener well the grass is not green in their case in their case they don't have sex personality, I like the way she handles her life. You're attracted to them. So it's like. I did not meet her on the app. like, I had a great time, and you're like, I did too. It's women in my life that I haven't slept with and I refuse to sleep with because I don't want to waste their time.
1:08:27 That's you being a good guy. But you travel a lot. And I might find my match here. told me to get on his app it's like you've been on his app four years you're talking about your You don't think that person's interesting or that important. It's like, how the fuck do you talk to a thousand people? You're a handsome guy. an iraqi airfield it's just boom boom do you judge like no you can't judge them right and i think
1:11:19 I was living in Vegas and L.A. and then I got rid of L.A. and moved to Irvine. Went out, had some drinks, had a good time, feeling loose. I'm thinking like, okay, so you're here a week later in my place. And then I was like, oh, seven days ago. I'm thinking like, okay, so you're here a week later She was like, stop asking these fucking girls. Like, I'm just having fun.
1:12:59 If I'm bored, I'll put it to 51. I like grown women, but the flaw in that is What do you mean I need to let you know? with them because you don't want to waste their time because you're just caught up in this life so you So that's what everybody is now who looks good, who's got a good career, and they have an app. he just said the girl he don't match with the girls. I was like, oh,
1:15:14 He from, Now what backfired on me on the app was, fuck I needed to put fucking guy I watched it, that three-hour podcast. I met a girl that was like Miss Pennsylvania or some crazy, Just because of the podcast? I ain't never had a kid. I'm 5 years older than this guy And so a lot of people that knew, they was like, can you make something? Like, don't have any opportunity to meet people and that's how you do it but you do it in an intelligent
1:18:52 Yeah, I just think that the app life, and I match with her on that one. Like one of my boys, You a six foot eight black handsome guy. And I'm like, man, I already fucked her. with two different guys and was talking about me. all the time. You gotta, you gotta try to meet a girl in real life, but the question was like, I tell this nigga to stop doing this all the time.
1:20:39 willing to date a girl and you like her so much So our first date was at a vegan restaurant in L.A. Like a sushi vegan spot. I'd start sending her studies. You have to just say, fuck it. so she come and uh she was like where do you want to eat for your birthday i was like oh we can go to this hibachi place it's like this popular hibachi hachi hibachi place in palm springs
1:22:31 so i was like oh i'm gonna go get some fruit so i go over there i see the bacon I know. it's not as simple as a diet it's not like someone's eating keto it's an ideology no i can't Morrissey. Like young, skin glowing, it's perfect for them. with eating sentient animals, I understand that. But you should probably also read some studies And those trees, they will start to release these defense chemicals that make their leaves taste like shit.
1:25:50 Do you think we stop evolving? stage of evolution have some real meta humans yes that's what i'm i'm really sure that that's And then some of the people that survived just wasn't smart. and it probably destroyed most of civilization it they near Chichen Itza, in that area. I wonder how many people on Earth there was at that time. on how they built those pyramids.
1:29:06 You're dealing with a gigantic mystery of unfathomable proportions. maybe there's like a billion people on the planet Do you know the story of the Amazon rainforest? They think the Europeans came through No, all that stuff lives there. Over thousands of years, native people played a strong role in molding the ecology of this vast wilderness. ecosphere of the world, a world of barely perceptible human disturbance.
1:31:52 of people living in these cities genocide. A lot of people think they just butchered they talk about running into the Mayans. Why? you don't know what to show i greet these and what do they think what is christopher columbus Because they found gold there. imagine that and millions of people it was probably He was a fight fan too, huh? I just thought the fighters were cool.
1:35:04 filmmakers hit me up saying, Like, a lot of these young guys and it's hard now. will Harris is fault like they're cool being around you and it's yeah but it's If you could, you know, like you were with Kamara when he lost. half a year to get that get back. So Kamal and Ali go to the hospital. wrong with y'all? Bro, I was beating saying? Like, because it's like,
1:37:45 access. and they got five people in the room. Same thing with you and a camera. ask for shit also the footage is so good and you gave him the footage of connor throwing that dolly You gotta see it. It was civil. He gave me He deleted all the tweets. Like Hickson? That's the door. Let me just read that. Pulled out of fights multiple times. Like your content.
1:40:50 Fuck you motherfucker Oh that's good The only person who even tagged him was Michael Johnson. not on your own. Even fighters do that to Khabib. And he did what he said he was going to do after his father retired. They don't want to see him Let him retire in peace. You're hearing a smooth, articulate, intelligent guy who's got his life in order and is disciplined.
1:43:09 now so it's like Nobody would have beat Khabib. He lost in Bellator too. Will Brooks. That's his journey. That's his genius. But I think you would be good at that. Tomorrow? But it's crazy because I feel like God is cruel. I think they think it's in like mid 30s is when a woman is like the most horny. I'm way more attracted to older women than younger women.
1:45:52 They want to meet you. I do a lot of coffee dates. Yes, and you see him raw. Yes. I have wanted, You might come out of it I've seen him hitting mitts and training them. very smart guy is always going to be there he hit Ortiz with what he's got him doing is just concentrating on technique. Yeah, he knocked him down twice. he's so fucking to like lose your drive
1:48:53 I ain't got no. we download it oh it's on youtube if you just put in like Will Harris. Should we listen to it right now? Because this chick ain't fine. Right. But, yeah, yeah, yeah. I fear for it, man. I go to Lifetime Fitness every day in Vegas. When I get in my car and I'm driving and I see a fucking state trooper sitting on the side of the highway, I'm worried about him.
1:51:30 Like that. I would want to probably go buy something that's shiny Trust me, bro. Like, I don't supposed to be here in life. bronze studio soon i can't really talk about it until it's really there but he always tell me Yeah. There's only one Tyler Perry. Like, I'm not going to always do documentaries about fighters. It was black love movies like Love Jones and The Best Man and things like that.
1:55:19 ignorant in the movie. To me, I feel like there's not enough of that out there. Every movie that's Yeah. it's ridiculous. I won't like permanently be gone. And there is a lot of shit going on over there with MMA. is to pop, like, cricket game. It might not work. And it's born here. And it doesn't catch on over here. It's boring as fuck. Then we went to the UFC.
1:58:49 They said that was an artery The human body is crazy Oh, my God. so gross, they're blurring it out. Click on that. ones. I mean, I don't know if that one would make you I watched it again today. It was a bad They different over there, man. He's like. That dude is terrifying. Walked down Yoel Romero. He's better. And everybody gets hit. And Strickland's got that weird style.
2:02:07 Yeah, they're touching. And it was beautiful. The early days of so many different camps, they just all beat the fuck out of each other. It's been where I'm like, hopefully he win, and then they win, So years ago you told Brandon on this podcast that he shouldn't yes like when do you feel like a fighter should walk away like You already have a career.
2:04:24 he's a funny dude. He's got a great personality. He's fun to hang out with me might not have the best stand-up but talking to the dude he's a funny dude It's so important to have people that's going to be honest with you. motherfucker sometimes you do right ain't nothing wrong with there because everybody keep telling I know, but it's like, you got to have something outside of that too.
2:06:31 I'm not playing. But, I don't know. to strengthen. Knees over toes guy. that bad. I could have arranged it while you're here this week. The other thing that's really great is other countries for that. A lot of fighters go there. But that was a while ago. So what does stem cells they can replicate stem cells. I mean, you know, Eric Gander's neck was fucked up.
2:08:40 Fuck. Oh, that's not good. That's what happened when I was telling them I went to the dentist. Yeah. A fucking bottle? The fake knees, that's a rough commitment. I see Bisping was working out right after he got his fucking. Did you see his documentary? Did you see Bisping yet? I was in it. Did you see it though? No, I didn't do that. Did you see that, his documentary?
2:10:53 But you know, Really? I guess not. He's trying to get access with Tatiana to the P.I. It's like the more eyes on the UFC, the greater. man they woke up paula costa at fucking 6 in the morning. They did the same thing to Volkanovski when he was in camp. and I don't think it's that effective because I think a bunch of people He's so good, man. Cejudo ended up traveling the world to discover himself.
2:13:29 You have to be better, and you have to realize if you're not, I have to improve. Yeah? Brilliant. He's not fat. But we also got to understand I don't think they're going to give that to him. He's not Conor McGregor. Yeah. He shut everybody up. I said, Jan is usually a slow starter, supposedly. and be a slow starter so I'm excited going into that fight
2:16:15 The dude had a fucking disc replaced in his neck. That was his whole idea with that guillotine. Who has that conversation with Tony? No. The motherfucker of motherfuckers is him falling backstage, Yeah, yeah. He told me that he had to walk on fucking grass Because it hurts. He does cardio. Like, the blowout. Right. The meniscus in his wrist is all fucked up.
2:20:17 fucking amazing he's really good man he's really fucking good and he's cashing in like nobody on Yeah, I've seen Khabib. When I went to the Pakistan versus India, I saw about 80 Rolls Royce Someone in Dubai. All you'd be doing is like charity work and shit. Yeah, I was like, hey. 225 million people watched it. They wouldn't let me film it, though. and start telling those stories
2:23:21 Baseball. So the biggest cricket player in the world, Coley, I think his name is Coley, K-O-L-I, Let's go. Now what does LeBron got? There it is. Conor. $46? Let's go to the Johnny Bones. Six. big boy it is a rock face look meaty now giant huge and you know his jeans look at him yeah his on Sean O'Malley. I spent one day I'm going to give you some HBO production shit,
2:26:03 First of all, he's got that dog. What John is is the type of guy that does the type of shit that John does. And I go, that's just who you are. because he always posts his comparisons against Khabib. So you don't need to keep trying to validate yourself. terrible shit all that stuff fucks with him it It's gotta fuck with him. I just pray that somebody
2:28:19 it all the way you can capture it. And then he's not going to Oh, my God. We got to. Right. If you go look at anything I ever done, I'm not having a fighter talk shit about the opponent. YouTube comments, That was the effect Think about that, bro. Yeah, it's cool for Instagram, but is that going to matter years later? That's prime for a heavyweight.
2:30:49 No, Francis is what? Stipe's in his 40s, right? Well, it's because of the training, though. Askren, when he was in his prime, was in Bellator. I think Ben was already on the way out the door, unfortunately, physically. He got fucked in that fight. I wasn't moving. So that's what Kamau said, He said, Leon is a fucking. I feel like if it's me, because I can't beat Kamal,
2:33:36 That was probably the trajectory he was on and retire the GOAT. He might. You said it on the podcast. and he's so tough. That motherfucker will fight He doesn't want to hear any shit talking. but I think Sugar Sean is special. oh, this kid was like a karate champion or something. then it's crazy how he turned out, right? Yeah. And Khabib was like, Sean O'Malley is that guy.
2:36:42 Marlon Vera's a bad motherfucker. What is he, 28? I was fucking terrible. He's got the movie star looks too, right? And he runs, like, 13 miles a day. Big and strong and vicious power. that's nothing, man. 26 miles. I mean, he was wearing under Armour's at the time. Yeah, so he's trained with them up there. Well, he's putting on a show. I don't think he wants to be humanized.
2:39:13 Nate's guy, the coach or manager or whatever, broke it up. Oh, yeah. That's my brother. So when people speak this bias shit, it's so weird to me, Yeah, it's so weird. oh, I'm on, End it immediately. Because you've gotten deep into these camps, and they're so comfortable around you. of themselves around you. And then, And still, tapped out by BJ Penn, I remember interviewing him and i was like what an honest motherfucker he
2:42:13 Because he said he's going to get tested in, like, next week in L.A., Freddie Roach said, you're going to take a year off. But then Triple G did not look the same. You never know. And also, this looked like he was a little saucy in his last fight. I was like, maybe. You never know. thought he won the second fight. But the second I mean, with that wrist, that thing's got to heal before he can hit anything.
2:44:01 I think that was his last stoppage. And then he just beat who he just knocked out? And he was on his way out. Joshua, Joshua. You know Tyson Fury. Yeah. Anything can happen. I mean, he landed Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing that back in the day. Well, he was with this guy that was a really young guy that he came with to the podcast And then Tyson Fury gave love love to Sugar Hill now so i think Tyson Fury is going to go back with
2:46:55 Or if you're getting boxed up on your feet, you've got to go to a striking base camp. So I just feel like after a loss like when fighters blame it on like that's why I love it's a fight game Just smiling. It's like, you was ready to fight tomorrow because Trevor was just so fucking fired up. He told me they were trying to work out some sort of a deal, and it fell apart.
2:49:03 exactly exactly you don't have to do that with trevor's gloves and trevor's gloves are a superior And now when I went to Colorado for the Kamal camp and seen his factory, I'm not a businessman. Can't be done. It's like he has energy for the sport still. Yeah, I was going to say, he would be an interesting person to talk to. Well, I think they got the, I don't know.
2:51:33 because they test your rehydration with urine and stuff like that. No. I think it was off the charts. He looked physically good. Now, his life is a movie. And Rick Ross got it now. And it's got a huge piece of property that it's on. Rick Ross is a star. With social media, see, that's the beautiful thing about social media. He's making a couple million here,
2:53:53 Senegal. Yeah What? That's the difference. I'm like, you know what, fuck, I don't want the monetization on this video. Yeah. Don't just attach to one person. i can reach out to any fighter right and they know the kind of content you've already created It has to add to my legacy He just had a baby. Even that Drew Dober fight. But was it round three?
2:57:01 And that's when you see that kind of control that's such elite next level grappling. I'm going to bring an iPad. Well, I got a prediction. Because I heard he cracks like cement hands, his power. close. People can get mad at me. I just, Islam is Especially in the fifth round when you're watching the way the fight was taking place. Yes. He was throwing that kick all fight.
2:59:04 Yeah. Fighting is a motherfucker. will never happen again i'm like how the fuck can you say that when it happened once there you go Only getting better. Look at me. Oh, my. No, Will Harris A-O-A-F. Appreciate it, man.