Joe Rogan Experience #10131 — Demetrious Johnson Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Dude, you're killing it. You haven't slipped at all. been able to do that yeah that's true i think it's i think what you're saying is it's also I do. shoot boxing. Right. I honestly didn't like I was working full time and I was still an amateur, but I would do these these things he told me to do. And props to him for taking that.

3:06 People put him at pound for pound. was it a three minute round or five minute round three minute round right and so the first round So you are allowed to clinch. More action-packed and probably push the action. It was fun just exchanging with them and i think you know having was to you know avoid and not take damage. We're going, I'm just going to fight. And if I get knocked out I was like fuck this we're going I'm just gonna fight and

6:09 I remember I was fighting him, Well, Ali was on the sauce, yeah too but yeah that was last time I thought something I was like holy shit you can take a beating yeah what was he something something that want he goes he popped to break like he has in his other fights and then when when he didn't, you know, we're like, huh, he's still here. Gary Tonin, the Rotolo brothers. It's very

8:01 title fight. A couple takedowns that he got. on yep he had the drop thing going on but i was like i couldn't get there with the hands right i So it was frustrating. And I was like, I wonder if I can get out of my contract. And then that's when the trade talks came about. so the ufc just said fine go ahead well there was more to it right And then at one point I heard that, you Dana was like no I don't I don't I

11:13 back when he was at Bellator, when he was in his prime. guy can do this to everybody. and doing it in weird ways. And I was like, yeah, dude, that's a freak right there. He needed a hip replacement. you're paying me to fight i'm gonna fight right and so i think it was a no-brainer for them Yeah. I'm just, hey, this is what I want. Don't believe everything you hear. I definitely was excited to see Ben Askren come over to the UFC.

14:04 Absolutely. And I'm like, look, man, Because John Lineker, he throws punches straight hardly, First off, Oh, you have a steel cup? You're a father. Why? I guess you could. Is it hard as steel? Yeah, you like it. I think it was my second E. McCall. balls, Like two weeks, He goes, do you got a hernia? hernia and so i i he was like you just need the proxen to get the inflammation now out of your

17:34 Yeah, so that's why I wear it. He was a little bigger than me, too. Whether you want to wear plastic. You see? And I was like, I was really grappling the other night and a guy tried to kick me over, Yeah, balls are fucking terrible design, God. Hang out there. Don't touch it. except for like crustaceans and fish Oh, Jesus Christ. Bro, you can see more.

20:57 The dude is sitting there on his phone, and this guy just axes him in the middle of his forehead. Instagram? Like, yep. Yeah. possible, and the fact Exactly. both in Muay Thai and jiu-jitsu and wrestling and everything. It works. the internet could be a good place The internet is just information. A lot of times when I have a problem, my wife's like,

23:21 She goes, wow, good job. But the, so a one is also streaming, right? I felt like TNT was really focused on AEW, right? US broadcast deal actually Amazon they are You could buy fucking jumper capers. Ring of Powers. I'm not working anywhere else. Guys like that. Superbond recognized as one dude like when I tell people the kickboxing. I don't think he has.

26:14 Yeah. I was like, No grappling. that's all we do. And he's got good pecs. That, look at him. Yeah. And then look, he's coming. Look at him. Yeah. like mma striking would never get there well it can't you can't and the good contrast to that is And you can see Rod Tang, Look at the difference. Of course he's running. He's basically resigning himself to being defensive in this round.

29:45 So these are one of the things I felt that helped me in my evolution is becoming better. Yeah. if you're an MMA guy, you can play in that realm of boxing, focused on in the training camp I didn't care if I got any through chin I was working on my squeeze Good for him. go, oh, who's going to beat that guy? Oh! I was like guys. I'm very very grateful and very appalled but I try to kill you

32:12 Yeah. I think of Nasty Nukin. But then you watch him fight. Right. He's a huge 155. Because, like, didn't nine people miss weight in the last event? Yeah, right? if it's 2.50, you're on the cusp, right? because you're trying to mask the fact that you're dehydrated? it was in Japan, I think in 2019, I feel like. is like 142, right? um about 128 127 oh that's not bad no no no you dehydrate or you diet so i would drink two gallons

35:50 And what you're doing yeah, so eight pounds. From my scientific, I'm not a scientist, Joe, but I've never missed weight. So people, when you hear this, don't say it. I've heard that's dangerous. Because when you drink that much water, I mean two gallons, water i get there and i'm just sick like just as a dog and next thing you know matt's like usually

37:54 He's not feeling good. hear GSP does what a water fast and for always got a tub wherever you're fighting right so i mean i remember when i fought joseph the So in the past you would fight on Saturday. 138 and then the next day i woke up weighing 136 so i don't blow back up you know like these guys they're like nope go get hydrated How are you going to get smaller without dehydrating?

41:14 lose the weight and your bladder. but i think the biggest thing is that weighing after the fight right because after you fight weight classes in MMA? Bless you. Yeah, so I think it's fine. Right, but the fighting thing is the difference. Versus champion matchups. So, I mean, let's see why not. and I see the guys who It's a huge it's a huge deal because you know the percentage of your body fat, or body fat by your weight.

44:22 You know? I think he's like the perfect specimen for heavyweight. I totally agree. Like you said, when you said it gives athletes a better opportunity to make more opportunity you to fight for the world muay thai championship oh yeah back back in that story yeah yeah we just You're going to love it. I don't want to take that opportunity for somebody else who wants to be a

46:00 We can make it happen. raw tank she goes what you want you to fight raw tank i was like yeah and she goes well how do you And they're like, one round Muay Thai, but like, how come you argue for MMA? if I can't make it out I just truly didn't care. But, you know, like I said. It's okay. I know it. Did you talk to Brontang and all afterwards and ask him how he trained?

48:22 What I mean by that is, like, after that fight, you know, we're all in the back And it's not like you're back and you see fucking Leon Edwards and Jorge. You're getting the full force of me. We're going to fight. So you can say whatever the fuck you want to me. cutting each other down like them, on even more to those athletes right like people who talk like i made you do this who gives a fuck

50:56 For me, I'm like, I just got to step away for a little bit Yeah. and Ronda was like, I'm going to beat this bitch's ass. and you know playing a fucking rock No. when people are like, you know, they're all looking around, they're looking at this small Whatever you need. And some people recognize me. And I was like, just got back from the moon. there's a lot of shit out there.

53:15 but my kids are getting older. It's him. Let me have my fun while it lasts. So him. Yeah, it's Demetrius. It's him. Yeah. Oh, no. I was like time you can't do that let me have my fun why what laughs so And he was like, oh, okay, whatever. I'm just going to try to drown you. And so I made it a point that I'm going to outscramble you in that fight. In the air you caught it.

54:40 Yeah. So I would do it and I do it. And he says, you know what your biggest weakness is? Here it is. And we just learned how to. way, He's trying to be heavy. shift his weight. He needs to shift the weight. So I kept needing him and need him and need him. if I can have it on my, not on my wall, Yes, that's like, doesn't get any better than that. I like working with the windows of opportunity.

57:54 And it's funny. I've seen him do it to Jens Pulver, Spencer Fisher. athlete All that stuff comes in. And this is when, yeah, look at this. I would have came back like, all right, let's keep going. I threw everything I had in that knee. he defends the takedown oh shit in my mind got up and goes and that knee from the first fight He's hilarious. I remember being in the hotel room,

1:01:44 And then seeing her pass, and then seeing basically the end game of life, right? Like being there and seeing her just like she's there and then seeing her go through the trauma and then her being gone and then seeing the traumatic how it affected my mom. My wife's there. and then it was pointing me. Right? I can't go train you're just gonna have to fight through this. You're going to have to just get through it.

1:03:37 Why? Okay, perfect. And then there's a ASAP Rocky said, when has it ever been cool to knock somebody down? Right. Right. better fighter because it's released some pressure from you? For me, I'm like, dude, you're fucking good. Like, just my whole mindset has just shipped. He was talking about fighting and winning. Yep. So I don't care who it is, you know, when it is.

1:07:09 Everybody's contract is different. And then I would fight the next challenger, Kyoji Horiguchi, I would make less money. Typically, it goes up by an escalator of $3,000, $10,000, $15,000. Right? It was, I think it was probably because pay-per-view points, bonus, I have no idea. Like, shit, Jon Jones hasn't fought in in what? Two, three years? And he's

1:09:00 but if I land on a Conor yeah so did you get it no no no i got it on one fight and that's when i fight henry I'm like, what the fuck, man? I don't like the tension. Right. For us to have that conversation I appreciate that, You know, let's do Muay Thai. did you see that it's when I was going through my title reign, And next thing you know, the CEO or the boss, he goes,

1:11:53 when you're going out there trying to put on an exciting fight? about all the things that you just look at what he's able to do in there who the fuck is better yeah you know there's I'm still active, right? but yeah, one of the greatest ever, Oh, oh. You're not? Wait a minute, you're think i'm not a financial guru uh i think not wait a minute not scientists or financial no when it comes to that i think chachere hit on it when

1:14:23 Well, I always tell myself like like, Elon Musk, when he's trying... Oh, six months? You think you're going to go into suspended animation think you get starlink when you're halfway to mars i think it cuts out i think it's like when I think it would be dope. See, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, what does he happen? You have an obligation to all of us

1:17:29 And I'm like, and they get upset. And then when you do get better, man. seeing my children do because for who i am and what i've done in mixed martial arts in athletics Tyron, he's on the top bunk. And I've never laid a hand on my kids, right? And I'm like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me get this straight. because matt's there but then that's an hour hour and 15 minutes from the house so it's very hard

1:21:02 friend Steve Skids, he was like, hey, you should come grapple, grapple at this place. He just destroyed me. It was bad. being with my children and helping them, guide them through life where it's like, everybody's the things that fucks people up in life is that they continue to do the same thing they don't do Never, right? You see those guys all week.

1:24:17 been able to make me better because it makes me think, right? Like somebody says, why are you in Why are you holding me? Does that make sense? submit it off my back. to have the mindset to be willing to your game yeah but I can't I can't I can't fight forever so i gotta you know figure things out how many You know, I always tell people like, it's important to focus on what makes you most of your

1:27:10 You talk a million miles an hour. Quantum energy squares. And it gives you that long-lasting energy. I gave some to my father-in-law when he goes hunting over in Idaho and Utah, and he'll And sometimes, like, when I... take one of these bad boys, is equivalent to one cup of coffee, right? So is the pink Himalayan salt one in there? But then to see when we changed the packaging

1:30:00 back to the creator right so a lot of stuff has been going on with twitch YouTube you have mixer Jamie can talk about So a lot of stuff that's been going on with Twitch, YouTube, whether it's 50-50, 70-30. So with Zekin, we're trying to give that back to the content creator. So that's like, Okay. you into the actual live stream itself. So there are a couple things out there that are kind of like that, like StreamYard or

1:31:40 platform. It's a new platform. New platform. It's a startup company. love to have your insight and i was like absolutely because something i do all the time when i'm my job is to break it. So I had had like eight i think seven people all at once just gentleman's going one, two, Very interactive. maybe first quarter 2023 i need to fill my time up with stuff besides my wife and the children

1:35:11 I was like, fuck, that still hurts. Because when I fought Henry, I got a blood clot in my right leg, and I didn't know why. Waking up in sweats. okay. He was like, whatever. Just give me the ultrasound. that is the biggest blood clot I've ever seen. Do not get any internal bleeding So the blood clot was from an impact? so but yeah my chef the only time you'd ever have a blood clot was from that from that yeah

1:37:32 Right? But then it got super cold and my fucking ice bath froze. I know, I know, I know. Just fill it up with water and then climb in there. Like this is probably the most like barbaric thing. I know. No, no, no, no. It's a saloose sauna. when I was in the ice bath the amount of kicking I was doing and the amount of injuries I had. Well, I couldn't walk.

1:40:19 Monday we pads conditioning. 10 minutes? Really? Oh, dude. Wow. 10 minutes in there. where he can regulate he got a, and I follow him What's going to be the easiest non-maintenance thing that I can use in order to have that cold go back and forth? Yeah, not that one. It was just him jumping in real quick and on the very far right. Right. Look at it right there.

1:42:37 Huh. You get it. I'll buy it. Turn it on. Exactly. It's like a pool. a sauna's the way to go that It's good, right? I've only had one issue with either one of them. maintenance. No, maintenance is nothing. I'm all when it's I don't fuck with mine. I don't. It takes me a minute. My wife's like, let's get the sauna going because she'll use that. it was going to be motocross right

1:46:21 I want to try it right so I bought myself 12. Okay, so I'm in the kid category. found jujitsu like in the place i train it now i'm like okay i'm gonna try to compete in um ibjjf I mean the the the place I train at the vibe is good the professor's energy is amazing There's so many gyms here. that I'm healing. I like his energy. You talk to Gordon about it.

1:49:16 you guys are fucking lying, right? He goes, no. Shit might pop off right here He gives zero fucks. Like, to try to find another one of those, John Donahue was on Lex Friedman's podcast. I'm just gonna just do my own thing and do the class but absolutely amazing And it translates to his athletes. Yeah, you're training. Right. Understanding or bond that a coach I need time off. No, you don't get your ass back on that mat

1:52:35 Like he knows you're not fucking off. for injury prone consistency oh no injury prone. I have never, out of all Marv Marinovich, and they put him through those come across that. It's usually We'd grapple. comes next door and goes dj you you need to come next door i'm like what's up he goes it's it's dude we're not going to be ready special in mixed martial or whatever he did in athletics but he was very injury prone how many

1:55:12 pop, I told you it's going to blow back up. he didn't. But this is what I say to people that, like, love the look. and that might be the reason why, because my cough are yours. You pussy. Well, I mean, they are. They don't stick in there because everything's hard as a rock. So I thought about if I got my ears like this, Hard as a rock. It's because it's a rock.

1:57:32 But how about his knees, man? That's, for how, I mean, he's a five-time World Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu champion, he said he was so emotional Oh. He goes, when he was fighting Cisco Rivera. just when John got hit Linderger, So I figured he would go out before I would. some people have that, He was like, Yeah, you can't just fight like that. enjoy the ride right it's just uh it's not I mean not rod tank because rod tank does have great

2:00:24 Does he have any desire to fight MMA It's a long road, but Stamp Fairtex, So when a woman I mean, look at Joanna Jacek. if Claudia was just like, I'm gonna go in there and take you down past your guard submit you that that should have been the game plan right instead of trying to stand up with a Yeah, I saw that clip. Will's the best, man. hands down

2:02:18 around him I'm done. That's great. he's like, hey, Will, I need something. Yeah. Because, first of all, he's a beautiful man. They're just bombing on him. Just boom, boom. what you think about this girl she'll never go better get over here quick It's a real problem. I ain't worried about nothing. Hey, good for him. Yeah, the right ones got to be able to fill all those yes, right

2:05:22 This is what I like. The reason why is because you have one woman to 20 fucking dudes, right? and they all try to figure out their relationship. Exactly, right? So then it goes to Fantasy Suites. I show up to this big ass mansion. I have to send somebody home to do fantasy suites you know So he has four girls left. any other girl, I don't think I can go on with this relationship. And he goes, well, I wish you

2:08:27 So I love to see the demeanor, but it gets better. I'm sorry. The one that left, right? no way, A, you're going to be yourself. Trust me. You have this man That's being a human That's the worst way ever to be in a relationship with someone It's something interesting like you said Yeah. you meet somebody, you become friends, So, you know, I know he wants to move to Dubai or whatnot, but we'll see what happens.

2:11:15 When you're over there, you don't have to worry about things like that. also, like, you know, is kind of fucking chaos, right? And she was there. Like, it reminds me of Arizona. That's what she said. I think, like, we're going to keep- Little triple C. Yeah. I was like, hey, Henry, Can we just vibe out together? But when we get to actually sit down and vibe off each other

2:14:31 He's a champion. He's starting to embrace that backpack is Henry is an amazing wrestler. so Henry will look at somebody, I'm going to kick his legs. finished he needs to not die but i wanted to pose my will on him. Body kick. we uh and so He looks like a karate champion. Yes. a very tight i have a very small circle and i don't like to open up. Maybe take Matt Hume to Arizona and say, hey, Matt.

2:17:38 We gone. I'm like, why the fuck not? vibe off each other so we're gonna go I'm gonna go out there and train there's Like, I'll take time off. Right. I'm like, one, one, two, up, six, three, two, nine, nine, knee, double leg takedown, pass. And he goes, you can do that because you have the energy for it. And I'm like one one two up six three two nine nine knee double leg takedown pass

2:19:41 believe as well um so i'm super excited for him to come back, if he does come back. But his stand-up is kicks up the middle a lot of fun kicks up the middle too. A lot of front kicks up the middle too, which Henry will catch that, squeeze up down left right check your shoulders your knees i remember i was getting ready to He's healthy. Well, But this is how we make our money.

2:22:01 This is how I make my fucking money. Right. Who, Aaron? I'm going to put it back in and fight. So that's why I tell myself, like, you have to stop. shooting, and filling all the weight, going with bigger guys And then Tony, the reason for you to go down to Arizona. But you're also in a room full of fucking killers that are trying to make it to that next level.

2:24:45 In what way where Henry's like, he doesn't train. because I'm like I did you're always in shape I'm always trying I did you know when I did Or I could be wrong, Joe. pressure on him i'll beat him up in the clinch i would take him down and pass his guard and submit okay, do we take risk with this guy? you have to take that risk in order to get that you know to get that reward but how much of that

2:28:09 then once shit starts going i'm just like doing my own thing and he was like that's not what i He goes, you're just all over the place. He says the approach is different for everybody. No. Like I like to have my plate full because it keeps my brain stimulated. and my routine and like like i would move to arizona i got i got four more fights left that's

2:30:12 you know what I mean do one of my businesses So then I'm like, my wife was just in Arizona for five days and she came back home and she goes, I was like, what's wrong, baby? I see those eyes, Joe brain i see those eyes joe i would live in arizona in a heartbeat i love it down there yeah it's beautiful i mean just the people the food the food choices yeah there's a lot of that a lot of that

2:31:43 And he'll call me and he'll be like hey man Because that is the great time suck. It's very stimulating. we're having a good time, we can all share the same'm playing video games with my friends we're laughing we're having a good time we can all uh what's the word share the same passion playing video games where my buddy chris That's a crazy one. So my wife's like, hey, what are you doing?

2:34:11 how long is it going to take? So we're going, you done i was like yeah, yeah, I'm not. She goes, okay, you supposed to be off here. Then I go out the living room and she's sitting there. She goes, okay, what was more I just recently switched to YouTube You know grinding is hard anymore. This is not, it's a job. It's a job. Like I don't, I don't want that. Right. And so

2:36:58 Yeah, but that's not much time. There it is That girl's doing yoga I didn't know that that existed. She's working her way up. This is the top female streamer. dollars a month, I bet she doesn't give a fuck. No, I'm streaming on YouTube. I'm like been able to make content it's like So that's the thing that it's going. There's some people that say it should be allowed.

2:39:28 mixed martial arts. So if you're a small streamer on Twitch, I didn't know you stream. up and then it's still getting views Right, so you're not thinking of it as a job reaction videos, That makes sense. The problem with YouTube you're a person and you get hit with a strike like YouTube only has like three strikes changed my life. and he does pretty good beats.

2:42:15 so that way I can play music when I'm streaming on. I think YouTube, they're way quicker to get it up. That you do have options outside of fighting because that is one of the biggest problems that athletes have when they retire from the sport. and they taste good, man. And that's one of the things, Again, without me in your corner. hey, you know what?

2:44:00 man, We'll celebrate the whole ride. Wearing gold chains. Never get on the sauce? Never. I remember two years ago he was on the show. Look at him. He's all jacked now. On the sauce. No. God, no. Wearing gold chains. I don't... So if people are going to do it, they can do it. I would never do it. And still sparring. I tell him, you're built like an 18-year-old.

2:45:49 So there's going to be a chance one of these is going to beat him in sparring. months off coming to gym like all right guys you guys all been training MMA let's see how good you Thanks man Yeah social media Thanks for the support, Joe.