Joe Rogan Experience #10136 — Jamahal Hill Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. I appreciate it. No, it was a title right there. I prefer maybe about eight weeks, about eight to ten weeks. That's definitely. Even guys in the division. Right. You know, and it was just like, I don't know, it was just crazy, I mean, it's amazing how long that dude has hung in there. I heard something about like he went pro in 2001.

3:19 Still fighting for the world championship. in that fight. That's what she said. Now I can't say it at all. he was like, good job, good job. Was it Mark Goddard who was the referee? Yeah. And then, like, I came back the next day. I don't know. These just gym dudes yanking on it, and they fucked it up way worse. Yeah, that's strange. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

6:44 and you could be out for a year or so. You never know know i think it was a play of him trying to be noble just trying He's out there throwing kicks at trees. I want to know what it is about being in the woods that just makes someone still yell. for Drago and rocky for went to the woods running in the snow carrying logs This is the video. no I didn't notice that

8:41 I'm coming I'm coming I don't know. Look at him. That's a strange cat. Y'all said that, right? Right. Because it was one sequence, like, I think it was in the third where I hit him with right hand, right hand, elbow, left hand. yeah he grabbed my arm and pulled me like he's gonna try to pull me into his guard and then when Because, like, there's something about, something about having that dude in camp with him

11:31 So he definitely learns from the people that he fights jibbing his fingers, like, towards my, like, face. especially when you're as long as John, Especially, like, whenever you see somebody get hit with something solid that doesn't encourage your hands to be open. I don't know if they have to get it approved by the commissions. With his gloves, it starts out in a folded position.

13:37 I mean, you guys both poked each other in that fight accidentally. Yeah, I just landed like an uppercut. towards the end of the first round, is like watching your setups and So that's why I work so hard to get to it. There's so much film on you, you know what I mean? You know, then we get Anthony Smith in, and he's like, So like a couple times he got his hands clasped behind my up under my butt if you notice i didn't i didn't fight his grip i

16:54 But it was like, all right, I know what to do. Yeah, I think that's why he wasn't able to really fight So that was pretty much You know, I didn't really sleep. everybody went to go lay down and everything. I dozed off for maybe, like, an hour, hour and a half like maybe it's like a couple hours like a couple hours after air after we had our everybody went to go lay down and everything i dozed off for maybe like an hour

19:35 different kind of things makes you look at sites a little different yeah like wow there's some I mean, who knows if it would have ever even happened or if it happened way, way later. Oh, wow. So, you know, that's where I, that's who, I think I was like 19. so like i'm like growing up i've been a lot i've been in different i fought big small short fast

21:56 record but i feel like there's moments in guys careers and those moments kind of get diluted He was fucking everybody up, and it was the way he was doing it. Just a whoop, whoop. And it changed everybody's idea of like what was possible with striking. and just roll through, like, of all these fights and things. Actually, my second he had a fight. Like, it's actually a scene for it around here.

24:36 I ended up fighting him Right. So when I came out, I was just whooping people. But he would not stop coming after me, bro. Was he a hometown guy? So it was just like, basically like guys just renting out venues, renting out a cage and just putting on fights. But I actually got caught in a guillotine at the end of that, But I didn't finish the takedown.

27:42 things like that and then uh like my uncles like my with punches and things like that. And then, like, my uncles, like, my uncles showed me things. So, like, you obviously, like, So he was already, like, essentially kind of playing with martial arts There's something to it. And then he's just picking which one So that was, like, when you really just started learning everything.

30:33 When I got into it originally, I thought I could be a world champion. his ass so that's what my general my mma journey started that's what that was that was me chasing You don't think Oh, heavyweight too. When you're around that dude in between fights, you're like, what the fuck is going I don't know how Johnny Walker makes 205. That was one of the craziest knockouts. It was like timber

33:00 That's why I just load it up to just follow up. You're watching people fly across the ring and go unconscious. You know how to catch chins. wanted to know how to do what i wanted to know why how like i mean the the physics behind it where I am in a fight as far as did I see what he was throwing, honestly? other so they could like just just see it maybe from my eyes or just how I'm feeling it or

36:07 just adding to my bag, adding to my bag, You know what's inspiring about that? And, like, having that ability to see those great fighters too I was hungry for evolution. youtube uh youtube boxing videos you know some kickboxing some rest so like any little things that i can try to learn keeping them tight like no you're you're constantly improving yeah and that's not a lot of time of

39:24 And now that you're the champ, like more resources are available to you, I did think I was gonna have to deal with deal with some adversity and the understanding that I have Well, that's what it takes. I was about to say back in high school, but we might have had different experiences. I can't type like that. I don't feel like anybody else can really do what I do.

42:16 It's one of the craziest choices you can make in life. Like what about the Paul Craig fightig fight yeah well the paul craig fight honestly the thing that came from that is realization that you're not Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's so fucking good. Yeah. It's almost complete desperate. And then whenever I, like, literally, whenever I base and I try to pull my arm, my arm didn't

45:08 they don't want to go 100% because they don't want to burn themselves out. try to set up. But he was strong, and then he was going to be more like of a technical, like, oh, what's the next step? Let's do this and that. Try to set up. doing things on his terms. fought the fight on my terms, Right. And there's a certain space that's created with that.

46:40 And I noticed them, and I adjust them. snapped it at the forearm like oh shit like, shit. Like, that's worst case scenario. Where it was, out of here all right that was that was what did i say my coach he's like oh you need to y'all need They did want it immediately. But, no, I'm like, no, I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to stand right here. You know, to the game to do. Yeah. So, you know, and they did want it. They did want it immediately.

48:38 accepting accountability. take a loss with dignity, you know, from it it's funny how you see like mma math just doesn't work it just doesn't work because like We were going to hit the ground under my terms. You know, it exposed a lot. I think it comes from being a specialist too sometimes Right. Just because of the sheer size of Johnny Walker, That wasn't him throwing the kick and me blocking it. That't him throwing the kick and i just i was like i just

52:20 My hands went immediately to the bicep. Boom. I was like, what happened? Giant-ass scar on his shoulder now. Pop. Favola. Did he hurt a list of that. So whenever they charge, they make a fast one, intriguing in what way? type Everything's like his hands are down. He's switching herky-jerky. It's a very unusual way he moves. He's like, everything's like his hands are down.

56:18 Be water. No, I think it's kind of hard for them to do that at the time, right? But then he missed weight. Yeah. So, do you think it'll probably be yuri if yuri recovers in I think it's going to take a little bit more time than that, if I'm guessing. because they're hosting the Ultimate Fighter together. so I can be ready for Madison Square Garden.

59:22 he had ever seen, which is a lot. he dumped me. Right. Kamaru just went down to Columbia. We have a place we work with in Austin. here in the United States, even though it's highly effective and even though you're dealing with injured people know because this is part of the job you're gonna get banged up you're gonna have you're gonna have He's good.

1:02:36 I watched it again. Because he had fucked that leg up. He must be dense as fuck. Oh, for sure. But that's a great adjustment by Magomed. coming out of that spot. I think they have this advantage and fights. If only, I mean, hey, I did all that shit. Yeah, shout out to Leon. Now, yeah, he's like some of the things he does the way he Ooh! That little palm right there, that's just understanding,

1:06:31 He's felt that wrestling felt that power and you know had a situation where he was down in that fight and realized that he had Yeah. He's got everything. I talked about it frequently. It was none of that. And you couldn't stop it. Because we all knew he was just gonna push him up into the cage and just punch on him. Well, he can't move good. train how you train.

1:09:00 with upper body, he doesn't grapple with his legs. You know? He just believes he's the guy. No, kickbox. tough times. The calf kick has changed everything. israel said part of the problem was i couldn't move but he got my leg even though israel looked That's what made me realize there are other people that study the fights and study things like I do because people start to implement those things.

1:11:52 I'm not a fan of that one either. Well, they treat that because it's a weak spot, right? I mean, that should be what it is because that's reality. But it's like having that ability to hit that spot, And doctors will tell you, oh, you can't get hit there. We know this with roundhouse kicks. When Jon Jones finished Alexander Gustin in a second fight,

1:14:18 and a guy's covering up and turning, some of them are going back there. Because your whole head's a vulnerable area. He did that thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was crazy. Never was world class again after that fight. One fight early in his career. You know you can get choked. There's a moment in Kamaru's fight in his career Kamaru coming up, and there was this moment where Damian has Kamaru's back.

1:17:06 Yeah. I was being heavy. Why? You should be able to pick when you go, You just got to protect the product, Joe. on getting up. Instead of thinking I go no, you've ruined the flow of the fight up. You can go at your pace and someone being able to control you I've seen people get stand up in side control, And people are like, oh, it's gonna make it boring. Wrest don't think that they should. I think that's one of the things we should get rid of.

1:19:35 no one in the world can get up. In a minute and a half, how many elbows did I hit him with? at what point are you gonna stop it bro right it was you know what i'm saying because it was like I mean, Izzy got caught clean. He was weaving. He's the best. Yeah, I was tired. Like, I wasn't bleeding from my head at all. You see the little white chunks and stuff in my hair.

1:22:22 Am I bleeding? Because if you get a bad referee, you know, like some guys, Like Herb, they do what they do, you know what I mean. when to stand a person up. Yeah, something that wasn't Brazil. Look at that cut. like the Davidson-Figuredo fight another title a title from a brazilian off an injury yeah that's an interesting thing i wonder Because I tried.

1:25:29 That's what I thought. and then it's like, all right, now he's fighting for under he's still like right here, focused. uppercuts it was amazing that was an endless let Danny slip he got hit with Uppercuts aren't meant for people to be taking, bro. Yeah. Hey. And he goes, I'm about 230. scariest guys in the division it's wild silly wild just realized like he can't do that to his

1:28:31 before he starts that guy. he rehydrated back up to, like, 237 or something like that. I believe it. It's a heavy toll. I think somebody said something like he rehydrated back up to like 237 or something like that. So what does it say here? Oh, he's big. At 205? That's like the same body build and things like that. I would have liked to. I would have fought Brock.

1:31:13 He was on the good stuff. His eyebrows got muscles. And Alistair was also a European champion in Abu Dhabi. like, you got to be able because Alistair at this time and fighting natural. Look how he's putting it on him, man. kickboxer like that, Yeah. So you would have fought him at heavyweight? and I'll find something else for me to do so right now you just concentrated on excellence

1:34:56 Sweet Dreams Hill. Yeah, that. And you got that. I like, I like writing movies. scenes always had to lead up to something so i did i was like kind of like making stories and making I kind of watch it all. You know what else you could do? like after the fights happen. the laptop it was so low tech like you just need to start and then eventually you're like you know like fucking ethernet cable into the laptop was so low tech like you just need to

1:38:34 a fucking iPhone up in front of you on a table, you know, and just, just talk to it. Just talk Yeah, I'm going to get those started. And, you know, if a fighter, like look at Chael Sonnen. And then you got other people that just like watching. Aljo's doing it. He just did it for my last fight. What do you think about that fight with him and Makachev?

1:40:48 That's this weekend. On the feet. On the feet? they go into the elbow. 190 he looks to me like a one i mean he looks to to me like a welterweight. He's tough as shit, man. And, you know, Max is fast on his own, right? He's good. drive is on top of the food chain. I think if he comes out loose, creative, standing out to start. I think he catches him with something big.

1:43:40 They don't have it listed on the UFC set. Because he's been saying a lot of shit. even though he's the best of the best at 145, So he's plus. That's got to be crazy odds. What is going on somewhere, too. That's got to be crazy odds. that's a long night for Islam. Whoa. Hmm. I don't know. Yeah, so I'll check something else. If only, if only. It makes it more

1:47:09 what difference does it make where you're training? You can't train from that gym? Just influence, I guess. Okay, what if it turns out, The allegations appears like they knew a guy was injured. they've outlawed all gambling on the ufc i would be so upset you're just gonna make bookmakers happy Was Volkanovski not a heavy favorite? pulled up, the other site. This has the site. This has

1:49:39 maddalena is a bad motherfucker and randy brown is long and talented. I really like that fight. Yeah, but that's a hard-nosed dude, man. because even though you're training Oh, nice. I got there Monday. It's like 1,500. Mexico City. Fabrizio Verdum tapped out all the legends. And again, that top-level jiu-jitsu, world championship caliber jiu-jitsu.

1:52:23 It was crazy. You have to say Fedor. But I always wonder, like Cain Velasquez in his prime, Junior Del Santo still caught him with one punch and knocked him out. That was on Fox. In a rematch They weren't even close It was like But still, what would Francis have done to that? Yeah. Without being able to do what he does best, which is strike. But if we're talking like just pure gifts,

1:55:53 Calculated. was one of the scariest knockouts I ever saw. Man saw man that shovel hook you hit him with that left hook yeah bro that You see that sweat hanging? It's like what Teddy Atlas says that about Deontay Wilder, And natural Alistair. Putting his head down, trying to blindly swing. Spin, move. trying to you know like to out point guys and yeah like when he fought Junior

1:58:45 And then, like, just a, I'm not, he put himself right in the line to get hit with it bad, He would have blocked, you put him in the early days And, you know, Deontay can be hit, but Deontay hits people. Moving away. Blop. only Tyson Fury won the rest of the fight boom and slow-mo you see it ripple all the way down to his love handles from the impact that's

2:01:18 made it to the decision and then Yeah, you're still getting jostled by those shots. That was how I wanted it. Is that something you've been incorporating Really? then bang right off of that boop left so that's always been one of your big Like, hey, man, maybe you should work on that. Yeah, because you've got to deal with it the right way. Yeah. It's like he didn't make an adjustment.

2:04:13 You know, you can be like, all right, yeah, I'm not going to let him, he caught me with a head kick. kick bang now you get hit with the same head kick again. It was like, damn. I thought I had to adjust. I've gone through a lot of things in training, a lot of things over. Probably. but it did damage, like the one that swole my eye out. legs yeah he he needed double knee surgery after the fight both of his knees were destroyed i seen He gave Jon Jones some serious fucking trouble. And Jon destroyed his legs.

2:06:55 You know what I mean? and really was never the same again. He did go there. I don't think they can sell a packed arena. But, yeah, I'm not as big a Bellator fan as maybe I should be, We went down to Florida for my boy Sabah's birthday. And a real good wrestler. like that like his because gay guard after gay guard had beat Chris Weidman Yeah. really hope francis goes get some big money boxing match get get successful. Then we figure out who wins versus Jon Jones and Cyril Ghosn,

2:10:34 people to the PFL. That's especially if Jon Jones can beat Cyril Ghosn. I was shocked, bro. Yeah, bro. It's illegal. he moves his he's actually pretty quick yeah for him in I mean for for heavyweight yeah I think this was a fight where no one knew Alistair had him in When Alistair started wrestling people, bro, that was a bad dude, bro. He fought in Dream.

2:13:23 It's pretty impressive. he just got his start but he was ripped though And Chuck caught him against the ropes. And he has to cut a little bit of weight to make the 265-pound weight limit in the UFC. Damn. I think personally it's a bad idea. Yeah. It might have been in shape ready He's giving up the size. Then you're coming into his world. Yeah. But I think right now Tyson Fury is concentrating on the Usyk fight,

2:17:03 but that's the problem is like those guys are fucking good man like if francis get exposed in one of those fights and you know and then you see Cyril Ghosn fighting in his next fight for the title, front kick off he's standing sideways Hee-hee. to just bully him he ain't gonna be able to just bully him. Could be. Is Jon Jones as strong as Francis Ngannou?

2:19:39 grappling to Glover, right? Right. But So a lot of those positions that he was Cyril Ghosn probably thought this was going to be a stand-up fight. How is she going to get a hold of him and try to, you know what I mean, But, you know, Francis said that during the sparring exchanges that they had they knocked each other out all the time that's why sean's trickling yeah well sean's trickling that guy spars hard yeah he keeps

2:22:08 I hate his boots. Throw your boots away, Sean. Why is he wearing those boots in his fighter picture? Yeah, are you working on a construction site? Big fight. Most professional fighters, most top-level fighters, one of those dudes i had a conversation with calvin once i was like calvin you could be a Those dudes are too tall. I don't see him, Joe. Dude, I said that shit months ago.

2:25:12 me is he fighting all that like bro if you want to fight me like for real for real come up go ahead You know what I mean? hook that he was gonna throw and that lands the fight's over yeah interesting rematch interesting Alex can't box. He's always jumping with those fucking legs. and you go up on one leg, you just did me a favor He's going to want a rubber match.

2:27:47 all right, this dude's the best in the world. The first fight was real close. Volkanovski. It's a perfect example. The first fight zombie in between. taste of a different flavor, When I think of it like that, it does make sense. Beat Kananir, who's fucking dangerous as shit. box a little more and two um the angles the angles and the angles of the movement and the mix in the

2:29:32 He give you what you pay for. I feel like he wasn't fighting to the best of his abilities. and he just fought right into Izzy's hands in that fight. mean like this is my size yeah yeah he's he's a big tall, you know me like mm-hmm. This is my size. Yeah. Yeah, he's but he's a big tall, dude so he had some success with that but um yeah man uh izzy definitely should have gained some weight for that fight

2:31:25 Then I just went to the wrestling. He's thinner. No. Yeah. Which is interesting. He might have just like you know. I mean, down the threat of like a tie up and things like that that's different yeah That's why, bro, I'm really excited Yeah? Jamie will find it. I don't have to, like, all I got to do is just eat what he tells me. you just ate less. Sometimes for certain weeks, I'd just do a keto diet, and I wouldn't even eat carbs, you know just because i wasn't giving myself enough carbs enough energy sometimes on

2:36:32 Like some peru leg, he made like a peruvian dish, homemade like tater tots. Oh, yeah, bro. he'd still be with me. So he's taking into consideration the amount of calories that you're burning, He makes all the everything. you do that and how much of it like fight specific training honestly this No strength and conditioning? So one of the things we'll do is this, right?

2:39:13 Defend the takedown. We go like that, and we'll do that for maybe like an hour. probably catch a nap before I go back and I do it again. Depending on how many guys I got, you know, you'll go a minute, St. Pierre turned to later in his career like George early on career, he was doing a lot of strength and conditioning training. We'll get through that session.

2:41:33 You know, that's how we do. kettlebells any yoga anything in between camps to just like sort of strengthen areas and you know Elbows, shoulders, knees, ankles. how what i needed to finish the fight late in the fourth round so that just let me that was also a Yeah. Yeah. It's just push through. I have a teammate. What do you go to physical therapy for?

2:45:14 And you're doing cold plunges and saunas? there just go out just go step out there. Just go step out there. outside with 30 degrees Freezing rain is very, very dangerous out. It's covered in snow. I don't know which one's your car. You go to work. You ever came outside and not be able to find your car? It's covered in snow. You got to go to the back.

2:47:26 but with no bus coming to get you. turn trying to hide from the wind people in warm weather they don't know about the wind those So now I just got to get out there. That's why you got to get out and get it while it's coming down so it don't stick. way to training i was on my way to the gym to go do a uh go do a two hour uh grappling and striking It's too cold, bro.

2:50:01 You know. Real bird. out in that in the cold one yeah yeah you know that's that's different yeah when you watch a Okay. No sleeves. Hand warmers. They're ready to go. Yeah, but your whole body's like bleep. Like multivitamins? It's a beautiful thing to have that thing for the UFC, can you touch you you know just all those things so i've been uh i've been i've gotten those and

2:53:54 and they train for months away from their family i'm like i know that you don't want a distraction oh, my kid might like that or something like that. Man, not the town. The whole planet. That's crazy. My pleasure. thank you sir I appreciate you, brother. Appreciate you. All right. Bye, everybody.