Joe Rogan Experience #1014 — Dave Smith Transcript

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0:00 President of the United States 2024 Dave Smith is with me. Is that a real date? You're relatively immune to all the trappings that hit all those people We're realizing that. that guy single-handedly Anthony Weiner gets hard time. that politician-y thing. I mean, he was, he, and he was like for a young politician on the fast The FBI is looking into it.

2:48 Her husband is also a sexual predator like who the fuck are these people? Yeah, I read about it. like a new guy isn't letting us sexually harass anymore what's going on with this You have like people buttoned down. And it's this like girls are drinking and they take their shoes off at the bar like whoa like they're plundering. And they grab each other, we're gonna fucking take them down, we're gonna fucking take them down.

5:51 Look at these guys. But people resonate. but it's unbelievable how much that football team dynamic is just the whole thing. And again, you see with this Trump thing now that he just stepped on. Like, this is just what gets them interested. of like a broken English tweet. Have you seen the documentary? UFC 54, obliteration. Slamfest. Oh, yeah, how crazy it is to see that this is all going on while Puerto Rico has no power

9:27 Puerto Rico is technically a part of the United States. and everyone around is going, ah! along the way. is so fucking classic. Yeah, I mean, you might be able to gain some ground afterwards with a couple of good insults. I'll come back and fight another day. This dude, this dude making that face that will be used, For sure, right? Because it seems like you don't like America, right?

12:27 So it's a shitty way to divide because it's not really making a whole lot of sense. Oh, yeah. And it's in their head all the time. There's no there's no defending any of the crazy stuff that we saw. random uh examples yeah you can god i really like it's really frustrating for me because the whole And I'm a person who believes we have, like, a real, real police problem in America.

15:07 There's that too. anti-capitalist, Like, well, what does that mean? There are robberies, but compared to what? right and so was every single other country and so and every country had slavery and every country Yeah, we can't have forbidden topics and we can't have topics that are supercharged to the point where they're you Like, their correct is gender equality.

17:34 on Berkeley campus, calling him a Nazi. Like that's what I've been thinking for years is the great threat to free speech. These are intellectuals making an intellectual argument and they can't even speak. Come on, dude. and i see a lot of these guys like who i'll bring up like stephen crowder and ben shapiro guys you've I don't like that. When you were talking about the fear of the state and the censorship coming from the state

20:55 If we have an issue, our issue should be with communist dictatorships across the world that It's not whether or not transgender people can use the fucking men's room or the women's sometimes i just can't i i can't even believe i hold some of the positions i do because i grew up a minute to celebrate this victory on on gay marriage that they had been fighting for like

22:52 Something like that. Well, I don't think they're related, It's almost the same difference as between straight people and gay people. Yeah. So you would think, OK, you have this like base of academia and knowledge on the left. embedded in academia, like far more than the right is. This is the side that is willing to put aside feel is the wrong body. And I absolutely 100% salute their right to go out and do that. But we

26:43 It's always like, we need to have a national conversation about race. So if you bring up the 40% suicide rate and say, maybe this isn't due to societal oppression So it's not that either or is right. No, I'm open to the argument. and then realized it was some strange phase they were going through or whatever. whatever they want to it. If you can find a doctor who's willing to perform a surgery on you,

28:54 Maybe. This guy has a freedom of thought to describe what's going on. they haven't looked into it. They think that there's no biological difference in the sexes and that those you're like, Maybe you're right. if they were taking that test anonymously. I talk to other people. A lot of really does beg the question, why aren't there And he got shamed.

32:16 Yeah, man, it's insane. Which is, you know, don't get me wrong, it's pretty eye-opening and like, holy shit. What an unbelievable like I've never even It looked like a good-sized crowd. It's not candle-y in here. to watch those fires? Walmart torch Bullshit that would be WTO bullshit He doesn't associate with any of those guys. Don't you think that Trump

35:28 seen too much Nazi stuff fucking nuts like this is the biggest thing that's ever happened. actively go after assaulting people who, and this isn't just Nazis, they go after Trump supporters who don't believe in free speech. a transgender woman a her. So I'm against hate speech. And then the media demands that everyone on the right denounce this non-existent thing.

37:50 Because their idea was just to differentiate people You're pretending that someone has any power whatsoever over is this white skin that you didn't even work But I think that applies to, Sure, sure. Okay, so this is what I saw from videos that I saw. I saw all the stuff you're talking about, like the tiki torches, the Jews will not replace But they got a permit and were there to speak.

41:07 I believe in freedom of speech. for calling out both sides instead of just calling out one side. is to react to people they disagree with The root of the idea of it is that it's okay to be a white racist. They were born in Mexico. I don't know why, but our thought is that you hate other races. Like if you are, if you're a white You're like a neo-nazi or something like that was the UFC heavyweight champion and it never came up

44:31 What'd you say? I hope he can heal up. But there is this thing, comb, but somebody else could say like whatever they want. It gets to a cartoonish point where Ice-T was Cop Killer. He uses it so I just think there is this weird dynamic on the left where it's like their rhetoric is so anti-white and so don't like being the bad guy. Can you imagine if a black guy wrote a book called Stupid Black Men?

47:22 they'd be like, Uncle Tom. It's also sexist. There's a big thing that's going But they feel like it's okay to say that. or whatever the fuck it is that you're into, and all of our social and emotional requirements, Imagine if it was a black woman that this professor was disagreeing with Well, I also, no, I mean, you're right, of people. Let's try to be as honest and objective as possible. First of all, you have a bunch of

51:26 They've been going through the whole system. above all else which is what That's what they want and I'm sorry like and I don't mean to also like accused of rape. And by the way, everything taken 90% at least It's one of the most ridiculous ones where this guy's suing now, and he has gone through hell for the last couple of years. essentially an awkward sexual exchange between young people

54:39 Yeah, and it's a different there and forget even in sex and stuff like that But if the case is as he's representing it, and as no one said he held her down, That's just part of being a young person Why are they so much bigger if it's sex? It's worse than that that's an assault right is an actual egregious offense if you're talking about people having sex

56:30 I mean, it's really, it's fucking crazy. A microaggression is not an aggression, inherently. I almost forget like you know like it's not the issue What I love in life is comedy and can't say the word nigger right you're not allowed to say it forget about what bill maher did it yeah I can't go down a path that might offend It's like there's no respect for like what we have,

59:02 the average American lived on a dollar a day We figured something out. The whole thing is that we embrace. revolution. but freedom itself breeds income inequality. I mean, take away all the other factors that might be in play, whether it's racial discrimination And if everybody gets the same amount, there's no fucking reward for working extra hard.

1:02:09 but what's misleading about it, you're absolutely right that freedom breeds inequality. And homeless people here live better than than rich people in third world, or certainly at least better than average people in third world countries. It's like, well, actually let's continue this train of getting richer Yep. So he's saying what people want to hear and there is something, some truth to some of

1:04:16 all of these things would be better suited very real. He would be like, you know, they claim it's to every New York Jew like number one I mean I just don't know big banks. To me, that's insane. It's not like the teams But the leaks that were weaponized. And I'm a guy who's always preaching about how full of shit the media is. And they're discussing this,

1:07:00 takes them, doesn't have a problem, doesn't have a moral issue with that, just takes them and pretends she's hearing the questions for the first time. through a fucking simulation or what, but So more right than Obama was. marrying each other and butt-fucking, it's just- me and Gary have been married for 25 Well, What did he say? Then all of a sudden

1:08:54 It's like if you were a comic, but the only way you could work Yeah, yeah, yeah. see the video of it on his side he would see the picture so you had a funny line you would write He was like, fuck you. And that's one of the things that was so refreshing about Trump, even though it was a shitty message, even though there's a poverty of words and the way he spoke and there was this clunkiness to it all.

1:10:54 Slogans work. nuclear war with Korea. I mean, I've never seen a political leader hate it as much as the people who hate Trump hate him right now. If you ask people on the left why they hate him, I think they struggle to give you a really good, honest answer for it. Although I got to say the EPA thing, I don't think any of this is actually the source of the Trump hatred.

1:12:36 What are the big changes? He promotes different ideas. foreign policy, speaking about, because I was I mean, they're down. Obama was targeting families of and he was torturing like all these things were happening, Well, there's just so many pieces of evidence that point to corruption with Russia. that host from, how come you didn't talk about her, Like whatever decision they're making is based on what lobbyists is lobbying them the harder and when it's all corrupt.

1:15:57 Obama's like, you're in there, you preside You put them all around your administration, and you get out and you collect your check. the way Obama speaks. I mean, he is a great did get their hands on one of them, in which she said something that kind of indicated why she didn't release the transcripts, because she actually said, I'm lying to the public.

1:17:13 How do we know that that's unaltered? his position on things he's like a more he's more aggressive a more leaning one Like to me, Julian Assange was exposing all this bullshit under Bush. Like, again, feel however you feel about Trump. Dude, if you dodged... poor people in Southeast Asia? It's like, fine. like not fighting in the with the Democrats,

1:20:22 open-minded group Yeah, I remember the video, right. Like that whole thing was like, whoa, we are better off knowing that this is what can happen And gives it out to WikiLeaks, but tried to give it out to other people, right? paid quite a price for it. I think like about war crimes like reporters Snowden's the story none of its ever like oh shit we learned some crazy shit

1:23:18 And there certainly is a ton of bullshit in the alternative internet media world and a lot of just straight up false stories. And then all of a sudden they get the players out on the field so we can do this whole tribute thing. detain American citizens with no charges? Don't you think it's the exact same thing as what we were talking about with people in academia and on the left that don't look at things that are in opposition to the groupthink of their ideology.

1:25:09 very very smart people but it is a certain personality type you know it's like that that They didn't formulate a normal psychological outlook. I don't believe those geniuses of like genuinely disturbed people. These are fucking assholes. These are kids who are trying to learn about humanity! Was it Gavin's? We shut it off, but she's still going. You're like wow what a naked like example of you're just calling the state

1:28:38 Is that top of the food chain? Red belt, right. But this is like some Hicks and Gracie shit that these people are on. for anyone. Yeah, I feel like I know you've gone over a bunch on your show before, but there's nothing better to me than You know, some dude really thought he was going to cheat touch this guy. Meanwhile, the guy who did it is also Chinese.

1:30:48 They did it through gambling. and people started evolving the techniques, But all told, these are the things that we think are pretty effective. beat the holy fuck out of this poor kung fu guy, How is this possible right well of course it happened? Boom! Boom! Boom! But he must have believed that it was gonna work. He must have believed that he was capable of fending off attacks

1:33:36 Here is like a short Asian dude. weird. He was doing this stuff before, like, I'm remembering Tony Ferguson fighting this guy who was a bad motherfucker in Pride. That fight I don't remember. Some people would call it a 45. katsunori kakuno and he ko'd him yeah i think that's the Nick's lit a lot of guys up. So it's Is that how you say it? I think you're right. Koji Oishi. Yeah, there's no S there. Oh, yeah, Oishi? Is that how you say it?

1:35:59 It was really strange. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure it's on the UFC. with a roundhouse kick. Like they would throw a kick. Like I got a book when I was a kid about Just break your leg? guys where go let that play play out that little video you were just showing he was one of those And you've got to think think by the time these guys got That's got to be worse than the same day probably because you're like yeah all the soreness that like comes in two days later

1:39:35 He's going to fight his brother, and the next day, I'm brilliant. because you're not a good writer. You'd be hamburger. The fuck's his name? No, no other guy? The fuck's his name? I mean, they're amazing. You're a little offended by like. There's something that like I'm nostalgic for it. you that feeling again of like Can't do any of that stuff, you get destroyed.

1:41:42 like when you look at MMA, And then you just sit there watching 10 rounds of a referee saving Floyd Mayweather's life. And Floyd would just cover up and bend over. But it wasn't a part of the plan to eat that uppercut on the chin. I mean, this is what I said. He basically spelled out exactly what's going to happen What I said is I think there's a 94% chance that Floyd Mayweather just boxes the shit

1:44:33 Not enough to get in shape for a 12-round boxing match before he got even close enough to punch him. Conor's a master of range and kick him in the legs you're fucked. what the fuck to do the back of his head of those moments I had seen one or two tapes of him on Pride. Well, the thing wasn't the Pride fights. I want to say Cage Wars, but it's not that. Cage Warrior? Hmm.

1:46:45 in Anderson's favor though. Oh were they? him fight Jorge Rivera and Lee Murray And they said, is this true? I think I remember hearing this, but I think The reason why I was able to get that off is because he wasn't Tony Ferguson. I thought Tony Fricklin, he hit him with a standing, stepping in uppercut with the elbow. But I just knew he was on just such a different level.

1:48:42 He was getting older. I mean, he really is like a spider because he's setting up the web and he's moving around. And it just feels like even if you don't know anything about fighting, you just know there's levels here. And he's bigger than all these guys. and Forrest Griffith. and then left kick, left low kick. That was Anderson in his prime and the cool and it was one of those moments where

1:51:20 and then you have all these different levels, You know, there's all these crazy, crazy, crazy levels to this thing. got very high-level grapplers. Pretty quickly. had like legit wrestling credits came in but it took a long time before you got like really really but real aggressive, but also very technical as well, And see if you look at Tony Fricklin as he's moving towards Anderson his movement

1:54:00 But he can step forward and step in and step out. Like when he fought Jose Aldo, There's that one moment, because it's a very short fight, And it's that movement that's so critical in a really high level fight. for disrespecting him. He knows I mean, if you look at a lot of what Conor had done with his stance and his movement, God, what's his name?

1:55:53 Oh, yeah, man. Like once you have all the other shit and what Conor does is he's also got really good traditional boxing. Those kicks are longer, too. He's way over there. And then he just dropped some bombs on Wilson Hayes. represents is like extreme talent a real sponge for knowledge and information and he's got a guy All of a sudden you're on your back, and he's dropping hammer fists on you, and by the time

1:58:17 He might be able to. You're right. Right. He got nuked by Cain in the rematch. Well, he was always coming off injuries by that time. I think he got up to the 8,000s. because this is what he's been known for since before he got in the UFC. I mean, I don't know if he would be able to beat him again. greatest heavyweight of all time besides Kane, If he didn't get KO'd by Stipe and fighting out of composure.

2:01:29 But I think he might have underestimated what a bad motherfucker steep a me Oh chick is and how the steep a could do the same charged him. That's a dangerous way to fight any Very, very sharp hands. He's a fucking animal. He's at a highest level so far. on his shin, He had shoulder surgery, knee surgery, back surgery. In general, probably every high-level

2:04:13 cardio and great footwork and beautiful striking technique as well as like real elite wrestling technique if But he took a lot of damage in the process. And then boom you're getting elbowed. And then boom you're getting tripped. They don't like the guy who avoids those wars and avoids that. Because, you know, he really didn't take much damage Like the people that get entertained by the style, the fighter, the wild, crazy slugger.

2:06:29 there's something incredible about that. if you are that person, record. I mean, how can you argue He's like his his brilliance was that he got you to hate him so that you would buy a fight At first it was like Joe Silva had just left You know what I mean? And what's he going to do? You know, why risk the How do they do it? But so, you know, like you get to know him, like hang a few times and like your friends and like and you're kind

2:09:07 when you know someone you're like that guy's a monster i don't know yeah that's it makes my job I'm talking to a good friend who I knew as a good friend smashing it with the Fighter and the Kid podcast he does with Calum, to just have one or two more fights maybe it was when he first started his career and oftentimes your motivation shifts you get coming back from getting knocked out. Because I found that really interesting. Maybe that's part

2:11:33 I think there's a lot of people who fight who aren't smart, but I think the people who Brian Stanton. But it's certainly like a mix. super aggressive the consequences super conservative because I think it's way more than that I think he literally had he's had 50 No pain, no loss of range of motion. guys, if we can just not kill each other Yeah. He knows so much about it.

2:14:44 Yes, but there also is like people, because again, the media, which just absolutely has a blind spot for like the military industrial complex and the horror of American wars. They do that. That being said, he's a madman. If someone has a shot and like too many, like people won't be hurt, we can take him out, take the shot. What you don't do is stand outside and start talking shit to the guy who's got the hostages.

2:16:28 Right. I love the nicknames until it was Rocket Man. So she made a thing on the show want to show his hands? No, she's still bleeding badly from plastic surgery. And it's like, I don't know, man. Yeah, you fucking idiots. It's like, oh, finally, And this idea that you're going to make up a story Okay. So I'll agree with you. how could you attack a woman's looks?

2:19:28 But she does have control over whether or not she's so vain she lets a doctor stick a tube down her throat and cut her half-alive body and stitch it tighter to give the illusion of youth. So I will walk back that a little bit. and I don't care about the dignity of the president. You're walking through the airport. And they were talking about like he's the king.

2:21:06 And now I'm like, not my president. yours originally, but you were describing the don't know exactly what it is, but the white blood The point of being like, look, a white blood cell does not understand the complexity of a virus. And they know that this PC authoritarian thing, that Trump fights that. that motherfucker I don't have any fake people To him, that's like a tool.

2:23:08 as we knew it at the time. Too late, bitch. You missed the whole thing I'm like, dude, I'm not going to get elected with that crap. I'm also, a lot of my campaign is going to be running against the previous four years in Africa. is that politics is downstream from culture. Like things will be okay. Poorly fitting suits, his overweight body, his crazy hair.

2:25:56 You know, you can't be like up here. Yeah paradigm yeah i i met jamie kilstein when i was like a brand new comedian like just starting I mean you see that financially with people we're talking about before you see that Because he's a small guy and he's very slight I don't know what the actual issue that they had with him. toward women. She said no and then you said come on. That is're like, no, we can't go. Come on. She said no.

2:29:43 Yes. And trying to shape them and form them into some weird sort of PC version of you would like this. You don't see a lot of 10s walking around going like, oh, it's so unfair. And they put them right up front. They put them right up front. Like, see? the thing. They're like the Sheriff Clarks. That's right. And they put them right up front. Well, the truth is, if you want to get into a conversation, a real honest conversation

2:31:05 They have to kind of, well, I'm going to get away with it. better be preposterous They should be egalitarian. But the idea that they have to subscribe to a feminist ideology, feminism at least. It's just like And then you're kind of like, oh, okay, well, let me come to a meeting. But even with them, there's a giant spectrum, right? There's a lot of women that are just what they don't want is some fucking creepy boss to talk, you know, crazy, creepy, sexual shit to them.

2:33:45 that guys are unaware of, or maybe not unaware completely you know when they first came out with that video, interesting to see that because you're like oh I don't do that so as a guy who doesn't do that I'm Yes. This might be pissing off some women, hey, we both have struggles here, let's have a conversation. And it's very debatable who they were more oppressive for.

2:36:17 I mean, go 400 years ago and say, that are female. And you have these aberrations, We're saying they're not equal. And I saw it very misrepresented in the way people were talking about it on the It's like, Well, men are different. That's a weird one that I'm probably shouldn't have dipped my toes into. And then the thing with like, okay, with women, it seems like feminists basically like they almost while bashing men and bashing the traditional kind of masculine gender role, they also seem to embrace it and want that for women.

2:39:06 That's right. But if a girl embraces and live a traditional lifestyle. said they hate right and the crazy thing is like they'll say these things where it's like you know should be more like men like maybe this is like saying something better about women like men are if there's barriers unjust barriers to keep women from things and i'm sure there are

2:41:40 So what the fuck do you want to do now? It's like over 90% men. the woman struggle like the black struggle like they've kind of piggybacked That's who we don't, everyone else. Let's remove that but then you get to a certain point where you're just like if we're being honest like the United States of America, because they're really looking to have They go, well, well, there's this, this barrier called patriarchy that's there somehow, you know, and we've got to like, it's because these women have been socialized into thinking that they're, so then they'll find this thing that you can't prove or

2:44:49 If men feel the heavy boot No, no, I'm proportionate. Get more white people in there. but you don't get brownie points just because you're a chick you don't know and you shouldn't go, you know, Dave, your whole thing is just that you hate women. Because it was a stupid argument. and I'm not taking into account my white privilege and the history, roast battle shows they have down at the comedy store

2:47:21 just want to see more women succeed at roast battle, But you are on team women. Like, you're disenfranchised, or you're marginalized, so you're allowed to stay. Like what are you going to align yourself with 150 million women You put that on your bumper sticker? Yes. basketball, it's like, well, that thing that's coming out, that movie with Steve He just played a female tennis player.

2:50:16 and then became a transgender woman and started stomping everybody in tennis. He did a really great job with that. Oh, my God. that's his strength in comedy. It was the older guy. They let him into it. Because I think she's the best female player. Didn't Serena play against an unranked male player? or something like that there are exceptions to the rule if you get and there are there are and

2:52:56 if we're going to celebrate women, I just think Let me stop you. I bet that's just stupid bumper sticker. Sure, sure. And we are on camp white male and we are on camp black male or camp gay or camp transgender or camp woman. I didn't do it. Instead of just being a reasonable, normal person. But there's like, sorry, sorry. Like, you come in sorry. So it's not me. I didn't do it. I didn't do it.

2:55:04 That does kind of describe us. She lies about you beating the kids, you know, like, the security and confidence And then you see like this, this horrible hurricane happened. They feel like they have to help each other. But these big population cultures, people interact with each other more. White racism, black racism, you're going to encounter and my aunt kicks that town's ass.

2:57:30 but like you said, there are, I do think like growing up in New York City, you also just I mean, to be honest, I really do use Uber, but it's less Muslims. Austin, Texas. government is the most beautiful thing ever. will sit there and wait for someone serve or protect? I get so confused. you're not speeding. They'll eventually figure out a way around that.

3:00:00 But I think what you're saying, we've already started to see it. The control of universities. when you said earlier in the show Fox News has a big competitor probably closest to what is called libertarian and American school of thought. Like that's Right. in the normal mind, you're like, well, at some point he's going to meet a professional who will

3:02:36 They both believe in a lot of nonsense. I hope we have this blowback this way. I don't know, man. I just, I look at these two trends that I see happening, right? want to grow, a lot of them go out of business, but they always great. But you have this thing where we live under the biggest government, most powerful government in the history of the world. I mean, there budget, you know, Bush spent the most ever,

3:05:16 we go from like, you know, a Buckley-Vidal debate to Trump-Clinton. Like this, we've had a Jerry Great privilege. is number one on iTunes.