Joe Rogan Experience #10140 — Gillian Robertson Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. Oh, smoking oil. Yeah, especially with dabs. yeah it's just like a nasal spray there's so many wacky people in austin spraying ketamine up their What is going on? I've never messed with anything like that. He goes, just take one pump. THC nasal mist. It's amazing that CBD has that kind of power. Like it just took a while. Just to fucking chill the fuck out?
3:56 this because he's like most people don't get to experience shit like this in their life most have our uh like our actual fight kits things like that right so Molly McCann, I feel like was really the first fight where I was like, pictures. i expected every minute of it plus like what a personality she has like she's awesome i absolutely the thing about like grappling is god it takes so long to catch up and while you're catching up that
7:03 good defensively but offensively i feel like that's a completely different world. like a little bit more maneuverability when someone's like grabbing your legs and they got your pants and they're holding on to the cuff in here, it's like, ooh, that's tight for a leg lock. What was her crazy nickname? She has a wild nickname, right? I'm going to hang on to you and I'm going to drag you to the ground.
9:21 up like but I was initially going for a knee bar when she was just hitting me with elbows. He sees you getting hit by it. Oh, yeah. At least I don't think it was. Is it weird? Oh, that sounds, It's one of the coolest things ever to be a fan right now, I love it. First round. Yeah, so is it right here he's telling you you have to do something? Do you feel bad taking that information?
13:19 So I was trying to put hips down. It's the Russians. That and the Molly McCann one. one of the opportunities where I feel like I really got it just that little bit more close shit the gable grip was it but when you were using her shoulder i was like that's brilliant It's like playing guitar. usually just searching for it opportunistically. So I get it whenever it's almost too late to
17:13 It's definitely both. where we've been drilling it for years, it's really incredible. like you get your choice do you have a is the rest of your game as strong as your choke game What? You're like, wow. it's like that guy but the squeeze that guy had it's like everybody that trains him says you don't And especially with someone, if it's a superior grappler in the scramble, she's going to take
20:52 It's so exciting. how I, with my head and hand position on my choke so it's just it doesn't Did he coach you to do it this way? That's awesome. They're crazy. Main card suit. Oh, Vegas. I had to think to myself, Everything is weird about this for me. comfortable with it I think that uh I don that for me, social situations are a lot still am at the gym.
24:28 Oh, okay. Wow, you got lucky. oh, why don't you take the MMA class? And I thought, okay, I'll have a partner. Why don't girl at the time could do whatever she wanted to a 200-pound guy. But when they're really big, you know, and some guy's swinging, if he knows how to punch a little bit and you get clubbed with one of those giant hams, you get fucked up.
27:08 Yeah. So there's not that element of guessing where it's like I can control and I can feel what you're going to do by touching you. But you could see like they have no idea how fast things can happen. He looks like a psycho to me. And he looks like a guy who comes over to fix your computer. The guy's trying to get away. And then this is where it gets ugly.
29:37 like hey this is real someone tries to But it's just, I don't get it. lines that anyone has ever said. I think that's going to get you a lot of fans for real for me it's just like literally I Like that you're a little socially awkward in that regard and like that maybe that would make good television? But it's such a show, right? And, like, they were, like, I don't know, nobody was trying to start drama.
32:26 No books. Oh, my God. Because it's like when you're in the gym, there's so many highs. uh or was it weird because you're all competitors it's weird well not because So it was definitely a big experience, a lot to take on. I'm just getting into where I've really found She's tough. Like how often do they call you last minute? training so hard that you can essentially take well that's great if you want to take a short
36:20 That's what I think you see with a lot of black belts or people who are at a high level is they stop drilling they stop doing the stuff that like gordon ryan still drills every is perfect that's the right way to do it. I really do. I mean, but everybody's different, you know. You just want to go because it's so exciting. There's battles going on. athletic i volunteered with animals growing up you know I was always the quiet kid in the back of the class. And it's like, just, I don't know what jujitsu is being able to be that, like,
38:54 and you become champion, you're going to have to I think that after this fight, I would like—I'm not looking past Tabitha at all, And I think after that fight, and Angela was just not giving up. She doesn't have to worry about getting taken down typically, you know? You know, she's very dangerous. Everything she does is so high level. to watch how people can just float on top of people it's like knowing when to control and when
42:13 Or not necessarily me threatening them, I don't think as much just because now I feel like I went from a jiu-jitsu girl who did MMA to an MMA fighter more. it's just much easier for you than it is for the other pro and it's also kind of humiliating or you're just doing kickboxing rounds. when they see like your fights these these exchanges against the cage those are some of
45:17 that are young and grew up with it and got to watch it on television and got it what was the first mma fight that you ever saw I love it. Where it's like, that he has me drilling, there is still the room for the specialist. so there are still those specialists that are so goddamn dangerous at this a few freaks? Or is that it seems like in order to be a world champion kickboxer, you have to
48:32 You're like, this motherfucker has me three moves ahead. Yeah, no, I don't know. Have you ever seen that guy fight? it's um like one round of sprinting on the The game plan is you put heat on them Is he going to be able to stuff takedowns? Not the training highlights, but I know he's been doing a lot of MMA training. That guy's Nicky Holtzkin, who's a beast.
51:47 variable of takedowns. Look at that slip. It's crazy. He's one comedian in France. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's crazy. around it or is it better to be a specialist? is unlike any other athletic pursuit that I So I feel like that's the cornerstone. Try to make yourself a mixed martial artist. Because it's like, I can have someone who is a better wrestler than me, but I can guarantee you they won't want to stay in my guard.
54:42 You're like if you just learned martial arts, like striking martial arts, maybe at a certain age you must go all in on all MMA. this sort of there's like a plateau for a lot of folks have you ever noticed that uh for me i'm You're just trying to strangle people. Valentina Shevchenko, when she landed that head kick on Jessica Ai, I was like, You know, her style is so interesting.
57:47 I feel like Valentina was just kind of like, this chick won't go away. I thought this was You could say afterwards, I knew I was going to win no matter what. It's like two world titles on a spinning back kick miss. So this is Weidman. brother in him right and he throws a lazy wheel kick and he gets taken down and now Luke Rockhold's Weidman's exhausted now and I can't believe he's in this position.
1:00:37 People see some of his losses Fuck you up. And he's too tough. Bro, this is crazy. What? Oh. it's like you can go in and you can be a better striker than the person. You can just get caught. that come in your head. My next fight will be my 15th UFC fight. In the UFC in front of the whole world. Like Leon Edwards, when he knocked out Kamaru Usman in the last round.
1:03:54 then just that one time is that night is that that's what happens especially at a high level and people that train like you train there's a big difference the fact that you do it constantly Like, okay, do you want to go psycho and be here seven days a week? that's like one of the great american success stories. That was fucking, I mean, that's really amazing.
1:05:49 day. I love going to the gym every day. And it's like, even on my bad days, it's better than going kind of dedication. That dedication trumps everything. Cause even if you're really, It really is. You don't play golf? They're tired from training. street fights crazy right it's that's like you said without weapons like that's a crazy thing Yeah, it is.
1:08:52 Like I said, we're there at 8 a.m., 10 a.m., 11 a.m. But to the casual observer, I see what you're saying. It's actually not a bad post. That's genius. But then that probably makes you as much money as fighting. Give me money. and she tweeted one. I don't think any – I think we're going to be like – remember back in the day when you had privacy? I'm like, how did you even?
1:12:37 I'll tell you what it is. It's Steve McQueen movie. And this is 1968. And they make a new 1968 Mustang. Look at this. so anyway this starts showing up in my fucking instagram feed now that's really specific that's I don't think it's as dangerous as this one probably, but they just filmed it. Watch how this car reacts. be going that slow. to do in movies.
1:15:24 I'm really good at falling asleep during movies. Movies, I don't know. man. Do you? I don't know. They're like, oh, it's the same when it's completely two different worlds. I think when I go into jujitsu competitions, I get stuck in a girl's clothes guard, and I'm like, how the fuck do I open a clothes guard? It's like, I feel like for the Rose grappling match, it was short notice for both of us.
1:18:20 It's a completely different sport. for MMA. That's interesting. But it's like the level that exists now, both in jiu-jitsu and in MMA, is so different than at any other time. I'm looking at these guys that are just now entering that are coming up right now. And I feel like I'm ready for these opportunities that are coming my way. Yeah, that's awesome.
1:20:44 It got canceled. Now are you scheduled? out. We thought he was hurt bad. Like, he's just a gangster, you know? Yeah, he is just a gangster you know he's down to take it he is just a gangster um you know who i was thinking about earlier i I thought it was broken. ones. Misha, when Ronda broke Misha's arm. Oh yeah, that was a good one too. I'm like, Is that it?
1:22:59 I feel like the kicks are just thrown with more intention. He's a big dude. This dude comes after him, big tall dude, hits him with a big shot and drops him. Michael Doot. Boom. He gets up. knocked out sometimes before he really felt it he's losing consciousness Edson with those horrific leg kicks. So it was a one-two. That was weird. uh i was on the last card with him and it looked like it was a struggle he's so shredded he was uh
1:26:36 It's crazy because it's the amount of damage that does to your body. Frankie Edgar weighed 155 and won the 155-pound world title. A lot of people brought that up, No, it's, how is Marvin Vittori 185 pounds? between the 25ers and the 15ers is extremely different I feel like so like that uh girl we Patty's out of his fucking mind, And then he gets fat again.
1:30:12 You know, if he gets matched correctly, and that's the thing. is like, you can see that they've taken tough matchups versus the fighters who is like, We've got to fight against this guy, top whatever contender. even if you are, like, the B side of the matchup necessarily. I think that's a tough situation. And it's like I still had that opportunity.
1:32:45 super impressed that you got out of that i was like jesus christ i hated the angle when i was You get these tough matchups. to the UFC at this point. Florida in general I feel like is a hot spot. They're everywhere, but they leave you alone. They're like, what do you do about them? Every now and again, they do get someone. Yeah. I'm like, that's crazy.
1:36:00 Oh, wow. It's just snakes and alligators. I'm like, you're opening my eyes to this. I don't think you realize what's like right. So it's like, they survive In Florida, though, Ate it whole. Florida. This was in Florida? That's where I've ever go to the National Park. Wait a minute. It's monster soup. No one lives there anymore. In Miami? Take some clout-seeking dipshit and let them camp out for the longest in the Everglades.
1:39:22 Just an asshole and karma come get you. Sprint away from the cops, jump a fence, hide behind a water treatment plant. Yeah, one guy died. It's a wild ass place. It's like, I think that's what's drawn all the people to us. And he was right. They got hit hard. there was a lot of opportunities and there wasn't a lot of places closing either. It's just crazy all the things that we had to go through during that time period.
1:42:38 You're risking people's lives. Like, stop. packed arena and i was like this is the super spreader event of all time because it's the Oh, yeah. added pressure on you it didn't add pressure it just makes me uh i i love it more than anything like, wow, I'm so lucky that I can be here and do this. like because it's so quiet it's just so relaxed it's weird it is it's it's very different to
1:45:55 comes up with nicknames for every move and they're different for every camp yeah which is crazy yeah Yeah, I'm not remembering all that. differences that's a very good point that's interesting that's the thing about it like as who's in the corner. What does a camp look like for you? Is it laid out in advance and does it And for my cardio more, I get it in rounds.
1:48:49 and things like that to ramp up your heart rate So it would be like just try to score as many submissions as you can this round or we're trying to score five takedowns a round. So just make sure you push the pace to make sure that I want to be ready I like that strategy because you're essentially doing strength and conditioning through skill drills exactly yeah all my uh strength and conditioning is just getting rounds
1:50:22 just trying to take someone down because we have big gloves on, we're hitting hard and then getting takedowns. boxing gloves yeah versus using like mma sparring gloves like six ounce or what are your thoughts You need 100 times more of those. and you're building just, I don't know, I feel like you need both. and he's been very successful doing it. You know, he's a fucking animal.
1:53:06 extra gears like he's he's another one that's a fantastic example of dedication and hard work and Like, I feel like so many people think it's just, But it's got to be exciting to be in the spot trying to teach them like all right move your hip over here and they can't like figure it out yeah My dad coached soccer. They're like, what the hell, girl?
1:55:58 idea what Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was nothing I had no idea so it's like it class with like a bunch of like soccer moms, pretty much. And after the first day, I didn't She's expecting me to be there, you know? The chances that that happened is like he's still my coach 12 years later. keep coming back and she's like ah okay i said hi to the old lady now i gotta keep coming back
1:58:22 And I was 2-2, and I was searching for for a fight searching for a fight couldn't find anything then the week before the I definitely, I don't know. They just talk to you. middle fingers. And post fight one of the UFC guys, he was like, so you throw up the two middle Because there's definitely the pre-fight nerves. after the fight I think I'm a different person sometimes I'm like I'm sitting there screaming and shit I'm like who the fuck is that but uh yeah it's really just a tunnel vision I
2:01:56 Because even during the fight, it's like, if somebody's cheering you on, it's like, Come on. They want to see you stand and bang. So it's like me being a submission artist, you where'd you go where'd your brain go i've had it once in a grappling competition where i didn't It's such a weird scenario. What do they call those things? It's closing your consciousness.
2:04:28 going around That's not good. But I did it and then I woke up, It's real weird, but you have to, I mean, you can only stay, I don seven and a half. I got to seven and a half Gs. It's a crazy feeling. It's real weird. So I'm like, that's a good thing. Steve-O did it on one of his specials. Wow, Tim Kennedy's a savage. He's so reckless. He didn't hit his head bad, though.
2:06:56 It's fucking terrible. Probably. I just want to be in the fight game. Commentary. And it's a great thing for the sport to have fighters like yourself that can – It's Michael Bisping. Been to a lot of sports. And I would want to do something where I'm staying with a sport. but it's like, that is what it is. Yeah. people don't want to put in the time or the effort and I'm like this is literally
2:10:06 That's why I'm like keep showing up is the biggest thing that I feel like. And I feel like it's worked out pretty well. It's worked out awesome. It's worked out awesome. And I've been just showing up for 12 years and I feel like it's worked out I've always said, if I work hard, doors keep on opening. No, it was a pleasure. Three and a half weeks out.
2:11:33 That's right. Is this, this is ESPN? Anyway. Well, if I was a network, I'd want to get in on some of this action. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. And it's something scary. No. until they developed these massive calluses all over their hands. over and over again until they get preposterous looking. He used to practice with bricks. I think people still do it, too.
2:15:34 Okay.