Joe Rogan Experience #10146 — Francis Ngannou Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. First of all, congratulations on securing this fight. That is a big deal. A lot of things have happened first of all congratulations on securing he's been like four years since Tyson Fury and I we've been going back and forth on social media Like explain to us. They get talked about for a long time, like Tyson Fury and Usyk.
2:38 Everybody's pushing his position. whether or not it was going to be made. I knew that he could have not happened, right? Like what led you to not sign? I don't know. was like the worst fight put in some And then I'm like, no, they're not saying no new deal for Francis. And my last fight was in June. slowing things they were slowing things down so that if you see like the interval between my
7:15 We didn't come to an agreement at all because during this time, there was still a negotiation, pushing and stuff, and I wanted to fight out that contract. Even before the Stipe fight, Yeah, but one thing, I just have to change everything. That's America shit, bro. Then what happens? that signing this contract, I will not get into what I have been to in the past three years.
10:37 extension is that because they say if the if you deny a fight, they can extend you for six months or something. We were just checking. If they propose a fight for you in Madison Square Garden in November and you say, I can't because I'm injured. Yeah. For example, my extension, for example, the first one, when I get, when I force tipe, right, And I was getting ready.
13:15 home do stuff and come back and I'm like no no no totally understandable originally supposed to end in But expired. November 20th. That's one thing. This and that. I wasn't expecting It's like an institution. okay, to get something at the end. So stuff like that was the thing Why sponsorship deal? Because before that, point, sponsorship deal. Why sponsorship deal?
18:16 crypto.com they don't care right because they have a deal with you they have to deal with the ufc and there are a lot of good staff out there They make me some kind of like a proposal which end goal was the five years the sunset okay i had the sunset day it's just you against big monster which is the company the institution so you can fight how can we make it
22:27 Maybe that will help. it's going to make, you know, about the financial aspect. It was like not valuable enough for you? and the pay-per-view is going from $60 to $80 in the past five years and you realize that missing Christmas with my family say like is it anything that i can do i'm like i don't think so we didn't just have a an agreement and he said how about I make it we talk
26:56 Because when they came back, Because it's against your word. You say something then I don't know what to say. If you say this is it, because you're, Yeah. They've been proposing the back pay before. back pay me but I know he was just a bear No, everything is in this. yes he's not getting any younger he's injured i'm like yes he's not getting and this and that.
30:04 to start talking to other people then? relieved I feel relieved there was so much pressure into that process you know But the way that they structured it, I was already happy. Take some time and everything, and then... Boxing was first for me, right? Would the PFL be involved in the boxing promotion? but I was more looking about like boxing that's the first time that I have to I
33:17 he was Deontay Wilder. with the... We get to the room. I want this, I deserve this, I'm that. Right. But I think, you know. now, because you've left the UFC. You have Okay. Oh, the PFL is down for that. Maybe he'll be a special fight, and then go fight in the PFL. So in my, I don't need a UFC title. So deep inside me, I still have a little bit of hope,
39:30 Okay, so June, you get the Tyson Fury bout negotiated. you know sometime even in the negotiation sometimes you have to see long term, like what he comes with. that you will want you want the cash you gotta get the cash and you will get everything yeah They're going to work on it. And, you know, you kind of like work with people that you feel like, and they've created a new belt right and um you're happy with the money you're happy with the
43:09 My knee is probably 90%. Yeah. I can take care of that, too. That's a good way to put it. and he's very good next to him yeah as a fat anything at all. When the guy's in the ring moving you, everybody can knock everybody out. How to connect the delivery system like the delivery system. In training? But if you look like four years ago, exactly four years ago,
46:56 asked him if you can you be in my corner whenever I fight Tyson Fury I nobody But I like his style, the way that he is approached and stuff. The first boxing gym that I get into. Like a lot of these guys, they're training when they're 14, 15 years old. After that fight, I was at the press conference and telling people, in the rematch and Daniel Cormier
51:02 without rushing the mistake the thing that i did is like I get to the point that I really started to think about the knockout, And obviously at that time, there was a lot of pressure on me and everything. Why he's doing this? you the previous you but you were way better version as far as experience and everything, even techniques, No, you can't. First of all, I understand how to train properly.
53:40 Everything has to involve, you know, that's how you can maintain your position. couple couple why before and since then I never drink soda you were drinking a lot before oh a Before the fight? yeah, no in the arena And so in that fight, That's how I walked into the Stipe fight, Patience. You get this. I didn't know. I didn't watch. because I start focusing on about what people think, people's reaction, people's feelings.
59:27 Let's just do it, you know. No? It's out of passion. maybe some people do some people clearly need people to like You schedule your training in like oh this guy is the great uh he's a great trainer he can do this no i believe that and don't bring that energy we should bring somebody in the corner or something and he talk about Eric then I'm like somebody that he trusts right and all those stuff and everything he already knows how to fight yeah
1:04:38 is mental, more mental No, like I schedule, I mean, Where do we want to get by the fight? communicate together under also on my schedule but but yes. So when you train, you do strength and conditioning, Yeah. then you better worry. wrong no right that's mean yeah you're not doing something right is it easier to train for boxing I felt different. one, take down.
1:08:20 Otherwise, you're going to eat that punch. Even at the fight night, you will always think like, because if you overdo, And if it's up 8 beats a minute, 10 beats a minute, and it almost indicates how you feel. help you big because uh things get so big you need other people to help you and everybody is You push. world-class so far no the only guy that i used to spar with which is a world-class heavyweight it's
1:12:33 of kicking either way. You know, I couldn't, I wasn't comfortable moving. Meniscus. I believe in myself. I know that I'm going to get him. I wasn't looking for knockout. Once again, I wasn't looking for knockout, but I know that I'm going to have my opportunity at some moment in the fight. two rounds I was little like worried about how to move and this and that like
1:14:00 to do something He was the most satisfying? I was fighting the contract. Right. I'm like bro come on depends two first round, They know everything. You know, in the perfect scenario, You know how in this world they say, okay, I'm going to die with my sword in my hand? I was very worried I'm like, damn, this guy is going to fight. He was sharp. And i know exactly what was
1:18:17 No, he's going to fight. So I started to focus on my air bike Such a good workout. concrete or putting all those weight on your joint right with with the uh with the airbag you do the Oh, nice. No, you want a real one. So I go there time to time, dive into that thing. I try. I always like, I don't know. to think about with this fight is your weight like you don't have to think about with this fight is your weight. Like, you don't have to make the 265-pound weight limit.
1:22:44 I mean, I do work in order to, like, get my weight down, but I I'm cutting weight. You're not thinking about it. Yeah, I'm not thinking about it. I mean, I do work in order to get my weight down, time I don't also want to lose a strain because as I said this guy is a big dude yeah and he has his skills to like to lean on people, strategy how do you envision this fight taking place Like, you've never boxed a heavyweight like him before,
1:24:33 He's been there. and you can't go like you want to knock him out. How can I maximise it the most? you know come close But I think I'm going to handle that boxer they don't do they don't know so yeah, I don't have to worry about that still. and everything uh so i'm not worried about that. They don't worry The check, the headgears, the this's the size of the gloves the check the headgears
1:28:13 in the fight. He's very tricky with his gloves. direct his aura complained about that yeah and that's what we are talking about the team and I've seen the Deontay Wilder videos, but they're not convincing. So in slow motion, it looks like it's all floppy, if they're right i mean there might not be i don't know if they're right we have we have to check that
1:30:40 There's no way he's doing this if his glove's not attached. Like a whip. Even his opening. And I just think that style, when you look at it in slow motion, Yeah, it's a dirty world. what did he help you with and what kind of strategies did he give you? And what, my first boxing match, this is legit like just thinking like that you have that check not to mention his technique Mike Tyson has a unique style that um I'm not I wish I had his style but I'm not going to expect to copy his
1:33:59 how he was that short and was able to get into the distance you're right base right and if you look at mike tyson or his fight in his a lot of footwork and movement and that's why his leg is like this big, like a tree trunk. go all the way down and do, like, this duck work and stuff. So does he have an idea, like looking at your frame and Tyson Fury's frame,
1:37:03 Because I feel like, again, I mean, out of all the fight when I think about a fight. those stuff and sometime it's exciting i mean the most time most of the time is exciting I think I shouldn't go to bed. Five and a half. Yeah, a couple weeks out. 29 morning feel like the king of the compass board there it is Oh look at prediction for this fight prediction for this fight knock him in out no no I
1:42:08 got sent back we tried to make it across to europe what seven times seven times seven times and you like the life lesson that i have learned from my journey, It's the moment that I look, so therefore I wasn't afraid of anything I can go ahead and let what happened happen I'm not afraid Yeah. there is some legit people in the division. I'm like, Yeah.
1:45:59 Yeah. No, no, no, no. I'm happy and I'm also trying how to get this there. shove their heads up in the octagon. I don't want just to feel like a guy that goes there and grab the money. You know, I'm here having my fancy life, my organized training. So we set a minimum of two million for him. This is an opportunity. that yeah it's amazing oh we didn't that didn't take three minutes to get done.
1:50:06 What other price? It's just the other parts of it. They are setting a pay-per-view super fight. I don't know. Well, my hope is that they, well, it looks like they're buying Bellator, right? You get some real legit lightweights, welterweights. Very interesting. There has to be options. which is like something that makes things very complicated for them.
1:53:01 He was from Corey Anderson. So you understand the difference between career and life? I believe that too. how they're going to fund it this is going to be massive because we are structuring the pfr africa they're going to have is because like sometime I want to train home and then I realized I can't have Right. have my training partners at home, you know.
1:57:07 I have a foundation. bro that's great yeah in the city and we are about to build the third one we're And I wish you all the best of luck in the Tyson Fury fight and your PFL fights. I can still see you walking the octagon with your mic. Thank you. Bye. Thank you.