Joe Rogan Experience #10149 — Dan Henderson Transcript

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0:00 the Joe Rogan experience Oh, nice. Yeah, in Temecula, yeah. Yeah, no, I love it out there. just gets polluted yeah toxic fucking thinking where did you live up there i lived in bell It's fine. It's just so much. It doesn't bother me at all. I would just be drenched, my jeans, my shirt, everything drenched. It's in the yard. But when you take a 100-yard shot every day, 50-yard shots look like a chip shot.

3:33 I think one at 60 was my longest shot, but yeah. idea he was there. He was just standing there at full draw. shot well it's very hard to see you'll see it on his youtube channel it's much better but And by the time I look up, he's like right on the other side of this quakey, 10 feet away from me, you know, That shot's like a 20 and under. And it's, you know, they just spray blood and die instantly.

6:03 that's my favorite hunt is a bow archery elk hunt yeah no it's the most exciting it's also the most crazy they're I ate the heart last night. It does. It's not like I have the itch to get in there and do it again. yeah You did a lot. and not spending time doing stuff like that was taking a toll. Well, I wouldn't be one of those guys. nice you know a lot of guys going into that and i felt like that would be a thing that you would

9:58 I really like what Jorge Masvidal is doing where he's got bare-knuckle MMA. I think it was Tank Abbott advantage. It doesn't You can go bone to bone with that, but not with your hands. Like he's probably the most successful at it. definitely the most successful at it from MMA guys. I would think you might want to use an upper and a lower. You used to see guys who had like a full mouthpiece, but it just gets in the way of your breathing too much.

12:13 I started snoring, and so I went and got a sleep test. Yeah. Wow. Some wild fights. I think so. It was 17, yeah. Well, Randy and I were training partners forever for wrestling, and they said no, which I didn't know he put in the application. Yeah, he fought some big muscular guy the first fight. Yes. Kenny Monday fought. I rolled it right before the world championships a month before that.

16:31 He could grapple. And Tito's usually in pretty good shape, too. Right. Then they go to judges. And I didn't know how to punch either. Well, no, I hit the bag and hit focus mitts and you I think the first real MMA coach was probably Militech. You know? yeah carlos newton and uh no alan go as and then carlos two very elite submission guys Just like at the last minute of the fight, he kind of hit me.

20:51 I mean, I grew up playing baseball and threw really hard. Yeah, it completely makes sense if you think about it. I mean, you can definitely get better at mechanics to make it harder, But there's some guys like they just don't look like they carry that much power, but they have crazy power. ball so goddamn fast yeah and some of them are skinny as fuck you know how the hell that you know

23:04 It wasn't – I mean, when I started doing the post-fight interviews, it was banned from cable. You remember, like, McCain? Right. Right. We know guys who haven't. A lot of these guys just bang way too much in practice. instead of keeping your speed there and your timing You don't need to hit hard, but don't go slow, you know. I don't know. Oh, no. Yeah.

27:53 They took it so short notice. half months after a knee surgery, a new ACL surgery. So I'm like, all right, I'll do it, but you're paying me win or lose, I don't remember that fight. I mean, it was like a minute into the fight. Now, this was, which way did they do it? That's crazy. you in shape though. The beer doesn't, but the't, but the hiking 10 miles a day in the mountains,

30:46 a good moment for sure i was a little nervous about it because he's a tough dude yeah very Right. Oh. Like when I was trying to finish him, it must have got jammed, coming up just prepare like you're probably going to fight in the event. Because they didn't contact anybody until a couple of weeks out. and tom erickson was like 300 pounds. No. And Pride had, when I first got to Pride, it was two 10s.

34:15 right whereas like i just feel like in that situation maybe the right move is to start them I like that. I kind of learned how to pace myself. So I knew he wouldn't finish me. But a lot of people, like, oh, they didn't know what was going to happen, hard and and try to break him and finish him he's a guy that i feel like maybe fought a little too Yeah, there's a few of those guys that just—

37:37 Fedor was a motherfucker, dude. but I know a lot of guys when they're in Pride were doing a lot of shit. Yeah. For sure. guys were sauced up for sure yeah i think a lot of sports have that evolution in there before you know before they get big enough to yeah be concerned about that they're already doing it They abused the shit out of it. No, I wasn't taking much.

40:30 top three guys are subjected to that as well and i had that for years you know and then Did you have to do anything differently once you got off of it, And as I got older, though, like in my early 40s, mid-40s, I really started feeling the age a little bit as far as just not recovering. pioneer i know you hate that word but you really are i don't hate it how did you guys figure out

43:12 the other shit too so i think it just naturally went that way and and then as we got more older shit about people i I can see that. Yeah, he just was too disrespectful to how i mean he had to cut 25 pounds easy right yeah no he's big he's way too big for 170 but Well, that's a lot of people don't realize. He doesn't have huge power. And in that Adesanya fight, you saw it so clearly.

47:19 stands very straight up he always has yeah always yeah yeah Always? Yeah. When I'd spar him, I'd have to – I quit aiming for his head. It's, like, very interesting seeing him out there. Right. sparring so the sparring thing is not there's not a lot of tension very loose and very composed So I'll just do drills and hit mitts and pads and constant conditioning,

49:22 No, for sure. But, I mean, for the most part, you get what you put into it out of it. beating the other guy up in practice and and i think it's good for the guys to get beat up How many times did you fight that night? And he And then I had about 20 minutes Wow. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. Yeah, see if you can find that. That was back in the wrestling shoes days.

54:49 He gets him right here. World Extreme Fighting. I think it was like Wow That Phil Johns dude finals. World Extreme Fighting going plow. Jens Pulver was in there. No shit. Rodrigo. where you have just the emergence of a sport like this that becomes one of the biggest sports in the world. Well, I think you've got to tame down the rules a little bit. What do you do, though, if you have injuries? Like what if alternates?

56:53 Oh, do they? Yeah, that would work. Well, even – it's not worth it. Scott Ferrozzo anyone the heavyweight the heavyweight tournament when he was 19. Right. He was crazy big. I mean, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't. And then a tournament. But I thought the whole season was a tournament. And they have Francis Ngannou. fighters if you got the pfl bidding on you you got one championship bidding on you and you got

1:00:59 That's right. He was going to fight Fedor. and I said hey oh yeah he was so happy. But yeah. It was like this wheeling, dealing, Yeah, everything not good. And I've never felt like that was a possibility in my lifetime until now. that's enough yeah i don't know just i've never felt more like the world's on the verge of being forever ruined. 40 didn't slip.

1:04:55 things that i realized when i moved out here uh there's no real there was no real home base and Yeah, it's amazing how that is. Yeah, and nothing happened. You know, we're all going to indoors. Yeah. It's amazing how that is, huh? That's good. and still trying to make their money and keep it afloat. Just insane. say if you work for a company and you're a CEO

1:06:41 And if that was the case, you would have seen a completely different response. and mask up. I started looking in May of 2020 because I was like, these motherfuckers are never going to let this go. And my kids were like, I want to live here. I had all my business was there. And his kids were still going to school at a private school. It didn't matter.

1:08:53 Yeah, you probably would. You'd probably want to have me in there, but they'd probably assassinate me. There's people on this whatever governing body that's supposed to be handling the homeless crisis. It's gotten so bad that I just don't know how you turn it around. Well, I think a lot of homeless, a lot of it stems from getting mixed up with drug use and being dependent.

1:10:09 The southern border, wide open, and people are pushing for people to be able to vote with no ID. Venezuelans back to Venezuela it's so transparent I don't care what their I'm real nervous about next year. No, they are. They are the enemy of peace. On both sides, not just. Yeah. No, I think they're the biggest problem that we have. Yeah. No, they are.

1:11:41 And then everybody gets into this frothy panic in the meanwhile. Yeah, I don't either. And I would never, never go into politics, so it didn't matter to me. Yeah, that's absolutely true. The whole right versus left thing is so crazy. I don't think there's ever been a time in my life where people trust the mainstream news less. I mean, I don't know.

1:14:40 And not even a big one. I think they could do that arena. Yeah, it just stretches. Oh. Like everything, the ceiling, all the walls. you show the replays everywhere so the guy knocked out could see it too. Oh, boy, yeah. As he's on his back, you see the head kick land. You know, there's a few of the elite kickboxers. just the old school attitude. from the 92 olympics and i was in my hometown in victorville which is in the middle of nowhere

1:18:09 Next thing you know, the UFC started. I found out about it from a local video store I Right. With John Lewis, right? It was fucking huge. internationally like in europe and and because they would really get a lot of european fighters What was the biggest crowd that you fought in front of over there? What I liked was, you know, as a fighter, So I do miss that as well as other things with the show.

1:22:06 Pride just was a show in addition to the fights. fedor in his prime over there without a doubt if not the best heavyweight of all time definitely Even though Rampage had fought there before. Yeah, and he fought with, what's his name? Chuck had crazy chin, too. Yeah. They weren't close to the head because I just wasn't that flexible That's a guy that I think people miss his prime too.

1:25:44 well you caught him with the head kick and i think if i remember you gotta weather the storm a little bit well you caught I'd hear about it. And we're in the face-off, like week of the fight. not me But that logo that you have, the flying punch, that is the ultimate fuck you. Because that, I mean, you flattened him with that right hand. Like, what is he doing?

1:28:57 That's true, but no one winds up with a massive concussion after that. So how often are you still training with guys? I'm pretty good at it. So i just need to start working out a Right. Are you thinking about just training a little bit now? You remember my masseuse Mariah? It's called The Lab. Right. Right. But, yeah, it's for injuries as well. I'd ice things down. Depends on what's hurting. and sometimes an ice bath.

1:33:36 it kept me from getting in bad submission positions sometimes. I just Do you ever wonder what it would have been like if you started today? first one the first one and i when we coached on the ultimate, we were going to be main or co-main. I think GSP fought Well, there was a whole contract of that. You know, I never saw that, so. had some great fights yeah i thought they i mean i love scott coker he's well i, he just has the fighters in mind all the time also, not just the bank account.

1:36:54 Remember that? I know Strikeforce had a CBS show. That's the only time it's ever happened. They asked him where he was and apparently he said, I'm in the desert. He seemed fine. Yeah. why can't they restart it? No, they fought again. Was it? That's what I think they did. then they went a whole Like, what's the point? Yeah. Interesting. So when you're talking to him in English, he has to really pay attention.

1:41:40 Maybe you should stop the fight then. It's a bummer. Yeah. than some of the big hard-hitting guys that can't wrestle very well. Creative. him a lot. Yeah, he's very unpredictable. He always comes in with a pretty good game plan and you know sometimes when I think he should be shooting the whole time he doesn't and you know. It was a pretty rough knockout.

1:44:16 looking past him in this fight yeah and i don't think john jones is the same as he was before he tested positive, like for the third time on things. So – And John had to dig deep. When I say look, I don't mean physically. Yeah. Right. Most of the time. you know the book that i got coming out it made me made me remember a lot of things you know And it's funny when we were writing it, you know, I'd always come up with,

1:48:15 or that, you know, I feel like I've forgotten And they wanted me to send a sample of that. I mean, I'm not the best reader, I guess. I don't know. I little bit like action movies movies i'd probably be okay at going to want to tie it up in a nice ribbon right so i mean now they're talking about you know a What would you be in your movie if it was only two hours?

1:51:02 Who would play you? I think he trains sometimes at Boss's place. Yeah, you get to beat up on him a little bit. Yeah. and he went and became one of the most dangerous one-punch knockout artists Available right now. It's a good one. You've had a fucking amazing career. they look like they're 40 or 50 years old You definitely were. Alright. Thanks, everybody.