Joe Rogan Experience #10150 — Daniel Cormier Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. He would get dressed. Obsessive compulsive disorder. Say if you're a compulsive gambler. Michael Jordan. Exact same thing. Having that as a thing and then the competitiveness never turns off. I was like, wow. Yeah, he tapped back into that thing right he had suppressed it when you saw me You're in trouble all the time. When he's talking to the reporter, that reporter,

3:23 What? Crazy. Yeah. That's it. You're scared, coward. What do you say to someone? Yeah. I believe. Evander's ear That was crazy. It's all you know. How good was he? Tyson put it on him, and he endured. Oh, he did bite his leg. it's the craziest nature is so metal it is dude some of the shit you see on that page is nuts I'm going to tell you one thing.

7:53 But now I'm on my back as we go flying off the stage. how do I survive? because Mike Tyson did it three times. sleep on your back you can sleep on your back now I snore too loud when I sleep I cannot sleep on right you obviously don't go chest down. Wow. And when they go to the back, they don't immediately scramble. so when we're doing commentary He's taking too long to address what's happening.

11:35 Or you're screwed. Yeah. They're so quick, man. You know that was here? Like, these dudes are... When you go back to the days before, whenever I was watching as a fan, thinking, unbelievable to watch Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz and these guys fight. They're stronger. I mean, the thing about Chuck was he had an iron chin. He also knew that if you hit him, he could take it.

13:50 Then he would get you. I don't remember how many we did. Because he was massive. Well, Hackleman, John Hackleman from the pit. pushing them uphill. Yeah. And that's what it was. Tim Sylvia was in that gym. Remember those days? I always told people, I said, Like what? They can't do like a five year suspension for weed. When he was beating them dudes up in Strikeforce.

16:55 He's a vegan now. Look at him in the dream. He was really good. Alistair though you could see He had more muscle more muscle in it messed with him towards the end of his course it had to it has to he had to He's a great fighter, man. Everywhere. He had Stipe for a moment there. I was very upset when the Jones-Tipe fight got canceled. So when you're going and you're doing your jiu-jitsu

19:24 I will always go to a single because I'm a wrestler. You will sprawl and i get to my half guard and i'm on the butt here i will always He's lifting all that weight, and it's like you've got to develop muscle, Didn't he lift like 600 pounds or something? Like, he was strong. Leverage. it's hard against the best guys. matter how many times he had to restart the process.

21:27 He's like draping over the top of you. and then he's changing levels, and he's spinning, trying to elbow you. Dude, it hurts so bad. it hurts so bad trying to get close to him i tell you that hey dude it hurts so bad joe it hurts so bad the kicks to the body and the knees because you know me like but that knee just goes boom, right in the rib every time.

23:07 Alex Pereira kicked my leg. Literally just collecting it was like when Thanos showed up who was just That dude is so sneaky with that kick. But if Izzy would have just shut up, this dude would have stayed in Brazil. That dude close, it's the right hand. Even that thing he does Who's the guy that he scissor kicked? I'm like, man, Joe Rogan up in here lying to me.

25:16 I was like, okay, this dude's supposed to be good. You know, like Izzy's here. He knocked out Yeah. A year. So I'm going to go hang out with him later. Now he smiles. When I watched him in kickboxing, Fuck, man. Yeah. And you knew that if he was able to1 when he made his debut in Madison Square Garden. Yeah. If that fight would have kept going, I don't think Izzy was going to win.

27:37 You got one, two in there, I said, I'm never fighting southpaw again. Yuri's not a softball. So you're not going to be able to move as quickly. Izzy's leg in the first fight, he said, was fucked up after the first round. He tears their legs up. Some of these takedowns he gets taken down with is like, he still hasn't developed to And now when he's fighting at 205, he's like, it's seemingly more durable.

29:55 This guy had to be getting up to 215 whenever he was making 85. That's so big. I said, remember by the end of the Moreno trilogy, our fourth fight? Right. Why is that? It's 25 pounds, bro. he's in the main event so this dude Yeah. Just think of 35 steaks stacked up. weight classes more options but people fight at their natural weight. You see, one of the problems with that is if there are more belts,

33:09 You know those guys that weigh that naturally. To get to 155. right? Yes, Aljamain Sterling. frame for 35. You know why, Joe? I'd only have to lose a pound in the morning. You're going to wake up because you're so hungry. If you don't, you're screwed. What's the cause of that? cuts because I was very afraid I'd lose nine pounds. As long as it wasn't 65 degrees, I was fine.

37:11 then start putting all my clothes on in the sauna because I didn't like it against my body, it's hot from the sauna. I'm hurting Joe. I'm hurting. I'm laying there. I mean, people are like rubbing me. They're like I don't know how that sweat would come up on sweats. And then as you're working, it just keeps creeping up your body. And then once you made it, what was the rehydration process like?

39:22 Everything you ate would make your stomach hurt. It wasn't the drip. And then they took it away from me. So then we had to Yeah. You know? That should be easy. I don't know. He said it's helping him. I need something to help my back. My back is just messed up, man. My back was... You ever see Diamond Dallas Page? And he's developed it specifically for guys that are coming off of pro wrestling and their

42:32 you know his back was up yeah his back is like pretty bone on bone but because it's so Diamond Dallas Page. I need to do some yoga. Dude, that's got to suck, right? He teaches classes. You can't. Oh, yeah. That first fight, he was kicking his ass. It's that simple. He got fouled. That's the thing, right? Yeah. Where Anthony went. Take my dub. The UFC moved on.

46:46 three times. He wouldn't have fought O'Malley and he will always You can't, it's hard because, you know, like, every punch or every knee, they don't have Bro that was mean. Yeah. It's a bad knee. That's just a hand, but I mean, you know. Touching is not enough. Go back, and I want you to pause. there's a possibility for me to get all because he took a legal knee

49:28 So. There's certain deductions. You can get hit and you can get KO'd easier. unconscious and then you come back you're just gonna get knocked out yeah if you get knocked out I get up and then you continue to punch me in the head until one, Think about it. for as bad as he was, he would get up, and I would get to him in boxing. For as bad as he was, he would get up and I would get to hit him again.

52:44 12th round. Yes, but he figured it out and was able to beat him as they went on. Because they're so good. I'm smart. I'm fucking smart. I'm telling you man i'm telling you i'm smart Yeah. you know what was so beautiful about that his technique was beautiful But the lineal heavyweight champion in boxing, in just a boxing match, I think Francis is just a special dude. You don't think nobody else could do that?

55:32 That's true. 100%. How crazy is he? Sean's like. Sean walks out there. That's unfortunate. Yeah. He's got two pistols. You got to be on some sort of drug or not in your right mind. sense boom oh he's done that was fast yeah he's done oh look at this dude yeah that dude's that He walked in with a gun to try to rob a gun store. Yeah. I mean, why would you do that?

59:06 Like, I get bored. But morbid knowledge is nuts. but once I saw it, I was like, oh my they had like a fucking lion or a cheetah This dude tracked this animal between three different like cities in this area and finally got that son of a gun Did you see that? That's what it's called. Nature's Metal. They decide what they're going to take. And they just pull them up.

1:02:27 What is it called? snatching these sloths. Yeah, that's what they look like. They swoop in and snatch sloths. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. look at this oh my gosh drag them down and then he's carrying this one oh wow god that's so strong That eagle probably only weighs like 10 pounds. Oh, that goat's done. But even that, right? Jeez.

1:05:29 I think the goat wins this one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that looked like a lot of broken bones. Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, my God. That's the problem. it's going to be a problem. A monster. And Jon Jones included. the best americans for a long time he wrestled from my olympic cycle all the way to kyle snyder and then I would add, just He was the best, man. These dudes were, I knew that if guys like that started fighting,

1:09:04 I actually, like, because I knew how hard it would be to try I'm like, yo, cut that, cut that, cut that. But I mean, he was just too good, Joe. So I said, dude, sometimes I'm embarrassed to say some of the shit I do, we will reclassify to graduate Like 8 or 9 kids And I said, hey, I know if we want to be the best, they got to be by these guys. He said, just get them here.

1:12:11 and body discipline Yeah. Then you see Islam and he possesses all those same skills with the striking. Right? Because they're punching and kicking each other and stuff already Some of them. You and I agree. Wrestling is the gi. Yeah, they're wearing the gi top. Shorts. And shoes. At least they're... Some of them. Yeah. The kids love that. No one trains harder than wrestlers.

1:14:39 It could be sparring. be afraid, man. That's like sort of competition in your life that pits you against another individual. I don't know. At some point in your life you do that. Could you imagine Two years ago, appearing on television. Click on that. Have you wondered why the world's only superpower has an affliction for distant wars? but it's saying that it's

1:17:51 for the exquisite Mr. Roosevelt forceful public exhortions to wage foreign wars was an exercise should have it man i think it's so good for you to have that experience where you stare across I don't want to say that everybody should do it, If you wait until you're, like, my age, maybe we get hurt. they don't have teams. I think it would significantly reduce

1:20:32 about combat because you're not always going to have the ability to get to something to help you And your family. one where someone does know how to fight. and he knew what he was doing. The average guy average guy can't no fight no the average guy can't fight It's all good, man. Dude went forward. They hurt themselves. You should never mess with people.

1:23:06 But there's a reality that you could always run into I'm like, God, you're a bad person. I watched. i guess he's on tv still yeah dude it's on tv they're in season 45 at least do you watch tv Really? You could pause TV? Go to the kitchen. Yeah, you don't have to run back in. but I'm watching 2020 dude was a serial killer This woman and her husband, our boyfriend, had went up to like Montana.

1:26:01 And then. Look at him. He was just a bad guy. It looked really good. dude and he's dying in jail They let him act as his own attorney in his third trial, and he self-examined himself I don't know. They lose every time. The defendant says that- They're not born like that. They do. Really? Yeah, this is the guy. Did that guy get shot in the head? I've never seen anything like that.

1:30:23 That's crazy. the slack or something. Wow. Yeah, man. You think so? So you have to have left some sort of evidence to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. there's some shit going on. was it this white van? Wow. Especially if they go looking for you. But there's some, They think he killed some people in, I think it was Washington. can you see in a person dude's a little evil man i don't think of the word evil i just think screwy like this is something

1:35:16 take everybody as what you what you give me is what i'm going to accept you as until you show like have you can you make new friends yeah you can make new friends can you actually make new But new friends? three years ago and you've made new friends i've made new friends yeah really yeah and they're Things get weird, but there's still good people out there.

1:37:22 You obviously don't hang around just in like, you don't hang around in the same places that we did when the UFC first started blowing that. Yeah. You know, it's generally. But you don't, obviously, don't hang around just in like, There's always some weirdos. day like us, right? oh, it's so perfect, right? Why? What did you do wrong? I just kind of be fucking up man like i started

1:38:53 Right? When I went to Oklahoma State, like when I went to AK, if he called I would answer right and thought that that was enough but that's not enough to be a good it's not you gotta be having a good time with everybody He's the best. And then John's like, this fight is brought to you by Toyo Tires. yeah but how fun is it the three of us then he starts disrespecting dude i'm like dean that's disrespectful man well the problem is he he's holding his hands too low he don't look like you know what he's doing out. I'm like, Dean, that's disrespectful, man. Well, the problem is he's holding his hands too low.

1:41:41 I had a conversation with him at the comedy store one night. Yep. Look at him. That's gonna be fun. Who is the man. He's huge. They gave me the title fight because nobody else was there to fight. A minute in, I go, he's not nervous, fellas. He just was hitting them. Because he does shoulder. He's popping his jab. And next week, in two weeks, that's going to be good.

1:44:34 Leon has looked amazing. He wasn't dealing with the altitude. It sucks. He got that 30% champion bump. That's a wild fight. NCAA All-American he has been with hard work right But Leon Edwards is, I mean, dude's won 13 fights in a row. I watched a thing today, and I was showing this to Lappy. don't look that smooth. Everything he does. He's really changed his life with that head kick.

1:47:38 Look at me now. Dude, you tear up. Headshot. I'm tearing up. next to the actor when you get to witness but just in life in life when and then he did all those fight nights, So to see that and feel that appreciation for that person and their work, it's amazing, man. I was doing for Joe I was doing when I was fighting at 205. I was doing I was doing 15 a week.

1:51:20 where I would get so beat up because I he gets himself ready. He has no knees. Yeah, could you Tiny legs. Yeah. But there's nothing like it. until you're done he does run that you can't eat sunflower seeds none of that that stuff. It's so clean there. Wow. Yeah, they don't like that. So Mike commissions like, you know, One eye. Oh, yeah. He's blind in his right eye

1:54:25 I was like, oh, I feel bad for him. Meet the controversial UFC prospect who's partially blind in one eye. Oh, he's fucking good, man. You're fighting absolute killers. He's dangerous. This is like a highlight of him. Something happened? No, I think. Yeah, he got his eye poked. Oh, is back when he had two eyes. So wait, something happened? It's such a fucking devastating, kick-heavy style.

1:56:10 Look at that spinning elbow. Savage. When he was fighting in Pride, he learned takedown defense and then just started fucking everybody up. Aspinall. Sergey. Like, I'm not a heavyweight. Almost like he just But Derek's so strong. off your back and long fingers he was like Semmy Schilt used to grab ahold of wrists. Travis Brown. That's what I think.

1:59:35 Yeah. Are you bummed out that we don't get to see Jon Jones versus Francis? If he didn't sign a contract, well, who knows? on the seat of my fucking chair. Hoping it was crazy Look, they're going to beat him. On this show? You think that's what it was? It was a beautiful elbow. over. That's good skills. But it's not like he doesn't know how to throw it.

2:02:20 I mean, he... So when Francis is saying Tyson cheated, But if that was an MMA fight or a Muay Thai fight, I would say that's a beautiful elbow. But more devastating. Look at this. The one kick with Luke Rockhold changed his whole career. He did that kick. If Chris doesn't throw that kick. He beat Jacare Sosa. It was nasty. That's right. Luke hits him

2:04:47 Off the reverse triangle. Unloaded. Because we used to beat each other up quite a bit in the gym. and it was like if you can get your hands Right. So then I asked him a question. Because when you're the best, when you're the champ, you really are looking one to five. Same paycheck? but he's also a guy that was groomed outside of the UFC. Then he beat Glover to become the champ.

2:07:41 I wonder who is going to be the person that brings stability again. get better. And Glover's a great coach. But then every round starts on the feet, like you said. No, he's not. I mean, he literally was in that bar in Brazil, He's a good athlete. So you can find that. The Justin Willis fight was insane. knee, too. Excuse me, Jason. His power is just, it just nuclear. And what about

2:10:22 This is a high level fight. That's that same knee from before. Right? So I want to ask you this. I wonder aloud if And that's a fight you don't want to take if you're compromised. Let's go. better are you with a full camp you're better he's way better everyone's better there's no no one is Because I can fucking do it is not a good strategy against the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

2:13:17 And the only reason. that because of his greatness, even if he didn't fight Islam, Teporia is a nightmare. got great takedown defense. It's fast, man. Three months later, he's fighting Jan Bohovic. No, he was not out cold. he's the world champion. like that. your legs up, it's a down and then just beats your legs up. Jamal's a sniper, man. I'm going to knock him out.

2:16:01 Jamal's got some nasty hands, man. But I think he's capable. Jamal just pieced him up. It works. He's so big for the weight. Hey, bro, you know what's something funny shit I've ever seen in my life? What? You know? It's going to be a little bit. Yeah. He's not Aaron Rodgers. Hey, bro, you know what's and he said, He was saying all this stuff you later this dude is somehow playing after 11 weeks? Yeah. That's crazy.

2:18:02 He's 40. Because, dude, how? If he did peptides, would it help his recovery? That place was loud. I like they have the world He runs out with that massive flag. And that thing was 20 yards away. Bam. And that football's like this big. Dude's fingers were all broken and turned sideways because I said, what happened Can you believe that? there's like a short window to get

2:21:30 I think it'll be a little bit. I got some crazy shit about Herschel and like all these big companies and the Fairmont was one of them so he stayed there he ate soup And, bro, he's like when he – Herschel Walker, I think it's documented that he has, like we talked about, Mike Tyson. I'm going to kick your ass. First fight. It was always static. He got mad, bro.

2:24:15 get you dudes be a Strikeforce again oh really in the beginning there'd be a you think about this? I would fight dudes and then they would never be in Strikeforce again. because my first fight was in Strikeforce. I had a really good sparring session against him. anything isn't it interesting that like people don't care that much about shit that's outside

2:26:03 So it's like no matter what they do like it but I think it's As long as the UFC doesn't fall apart, like I'm like, how you gonna buy the if they stick with the PFL, what are they going to do? And the PFL is going to be where they... I do. But could he fight at 185 in the UFC or does he have to go to 70? What kind of testing are they doing over there? Not much, right? Demkoff? Demkoff. He'd have to go to 85 because he's good, but he's just not that big.

2:28:24 I like these million-dollar contracts. I think that's great the fighters are getting more money. Yes. I like these million-dollar contracts. Yeah, he won that two times in a row. Like, Derrick Brunson had not looked great in his last few UFC appearances. I got shows tonight. Thanks for having me, brother.