Joe Rogan Experience #10151 — Bo Nickal Transcript

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0:00 the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Just like that's the first legitimate real proof that somebody's kind of come out with. government positions and stuff like like in the U.S. you win the Olympics in wrestling you win like a quarter million bucks and it's a big deal for like a month and you kind of move doping and doing stuff but the one experience that i had that was like uh really kind of prominent in my

3:08 And I tech followed him. And I'm like, what the hell is going on and we're just random tournament in Rome and I'm wrestling actually the next round he beat No. And they're doing it supposedly responsibly with doctors involved, This is what we do. Yeah. I've thought about it as far as the advantages. But it is interesting to think about what would would what would i be like if if i

6:49 drug testing program's like since you saw it as over at the end of the year but it is what it is to me that's kind of like they're trying to get an unfair advantage. make sure my nutrition's on point. And not only am I going to do this for a camp, but I'm doing and things along those lines. It's just helping you get healthy. I have this part of me that's pretty, pretty rational. And I think like, uh, you know,

10:10 like in a lot not i don't mean to like toot my own horn but i was i'm a college graduate i had a lot it's like that's an amazing feeling. home. And it was always something that I was like, I could do that. And like me and my friends would, we're doing a jiu-jitsu class after this. It was just that one class kind of – like that's I just knew I wanted to do it so was that jujitsu class was that the first uh thing

13:30 and so I did that tournament and I actually won and but I never trained or anything I just I think I submitted a kid. And actually in the finals, it was a tough match because I went against a kid who I had competitive. really that was it up until my you know second third year in college and I did that class did And, you know, I just feel like it's – I just like it.

15:49 your ability to slide out of range and then explode back into range and timing with punches Yeah, yeah. He was talking crazy, saying he was going to give me brain damage, all this stuff. I work with the dude I was telling you. He's on Instagram, A Million Styles Boxing. got like the ultimate cheat code with wrestling so so use that to my advantage whatever it looks

18:27 When you have that wrestling base, it is such a giant advantage. It's so gigantic, man. now that's what they're focused on rather than winning the fight and uh you know of course you And so I would use all my energy, all my strength, try to throw them on their back. versus trying to do that when we're both fresh. So, yeah, that's kind of how I feel about, like, the wrestling advantage, right?

21:44 Yeah, it's such a big thing man And now there's this other guy who's a monster coming at you get really emotional and they really try to hit the gas in the first round and then you see in Yeah. Yeah, it's such's such I would say It happens so often in MMA. Yeah. and then i love i just love it like i watch so much film i'm watching boxing i'm watching muay

26:00 of film in a week where, yeah, maybe I can't train an extra four or five hours, but now I have this I do it two different ways. and break things down and look at positioning and kind of start from the ground up where I see So we'll look at all these specific things, train and they you know they they train hard but I don't necessarily think they're doing it

29:00 you don't have a way to, you know to apply it in actual competition, that's not the way an mma fighter talks about. And I hope that, you know, to move MMA in a, in a more, into a more professional realm so that's kind of the way that i look at it and that does a lot of it comes from my background But there is something to that, that the elite of the elite in any sport,

32:04 me what you think of this because I kind of look at the sport And then it became, okay, now if I know a little Jiu-Jitsu Like, it was, like, the well-rounded guys had the biggest advantage. even see him throw up subs in some of his fights things like that or you know you see guys where And when you have a guy that's a two-division glory world champion

34:36 defense he's getting better at it and it doesn't seem like he's very good at getting back up to you what are you going to do that's how I want to develop my style ideally is to where when somebody superior grappling base. I could probably do this to like some of the top guys in the world. And, you know, I always want Please, take these eight weeks and try to wrestle.

37:32 Because you're going to give up something by training MMA as well. the pace is different. You're in a different stance. You know, I'm not really, I don't have So I tailor my training to that. how do you do you have a main MMA coach who structures your training program because I and they move, and they start at an MMA gym, right? brought in coaches for jujitsu, for Muay Thai, you know, really high level guys in their specific

40:30 How many times am I going to lift weights? So now he kind of gets the benefits of me tinkering for that year. And then the guys behind him, Right. I think that everybody – if you're a real true professional, you've got Rob GSP. the foresight to kind of see that and know, all right, let's look at MMA. There's a lot of people days for pretty much every day of the year since 2009. So they know what they did. What's today,

44:20 win more than me, make more money than me, be more famous. Like that's what I hope It's covering every fucking base. like you said leaving no stone unturned making sure that i've done every single thing that i How can I optimize every single part of my lifestyle to now go out there, be comfortable, be confident, and I'm not here to guess. It's like, well, I want to be ready and prepared to the point where now I'm fighting guys that are unranked, that people see as low level.

47:26 Is it difficult for you to get quality opponents? I don't want to fight that guy. Fuck that. I need to learn. So there's a lot of guys who are like hey i'm like fucking one and one i don't want to fight that you really do need in order to continue to not just you're developing these skills, obviously, in the positives and negatives and apply those to what I'm doing.

48:59 That really is so funny. So what happened was I started training. put a show together in my hometown in state college. And, uh, so I was working for a few on UFC Fight Pass and it did like the most views in UFC Fight Pass history um like more than any Yeah, that's exactly what it is on top of good, high quality coaches fights and the regional scene you know and then i then I'm going to go to the UFC.

52:07 Who's going to fight me in any of these? choke the guy out in a minute. Dan's like, let's do another riding back from training session once. And, uh, I've got, so I'm barefoot. I've got like a And normally I'm pretty safe on this thing. It's flying in the air. My shoes, everything's flying in the air and roll. And my Yeti, I have like a 64 ounce Yeti. It's flying in the air.

54:36 kind of hurt my shoulder hurts a little bit and then four hours later I couldn't move my arm I it's, it's the day before I'm about to the two days before I'm about to fly out. I like the next day and I'm like well it's the day before I'm about to the Get me in there again December, I tell Dana and Hunter. Yeah, Jamie broke his ass bone on one of them hoverboards.

56:47 year span I fought five times professionally and then I was thinking you know I can keep going at Like I'm still a prospect. And I also think I'm very happy that you decided to go with UFC because no disrespect to the other organizations. Right. If you're the UFC champ, you're the fucking man. We haven't had a match that wasn't sold out. that's where i need to be competing the promotion yeah i mean it's incredible if you're a ufc

1:00:09 the nfl look at an nfl running back or nfl quarterback like a lot of these guys get get it like yeah I feel like you know like what you get paid, that's between you and the company and take care of what you need to take care of. And knew I was going to fight The energy in Las Vegas When there's a big fight it's unbelievable there's I went to the UFC in Austin last weekend.

1:02:31 Insane. It's unbelievable. You just talk to people or see what's going on. that just makes no sense at all. one of the problems with the Revolutionary War was they didn't have enough they would go hey you're done if you talk like that, they would go, hey, you're done. Yeah. When I first got there, rolled up, I mean, there's 30 Secret Service members.

1:05:39 i'm like wow what the heck is going on here? That's got to feel surreal. It was super surreal. No. It's like a fucking duck to water. 18th hole uh him and lt were tied or something. It was like the winner. Ball's like in the middle of the arc. And I was like, for sure, man. I know. By the way, the same stable geniuses said the biggest problem we had in the Revolutionary War is we didn't have enough Airport

1:08:48 Delaware, and seized victory So he fucked up. but yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And literally he called what's happening. You have to explain why it's so nuts. I look for the invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings, possible contact with extraterrestrials, possible human immortality, And now that they have happened, nobody even bothers to mention what a big deal it is.

1:12:22 We are not acting for ourselves or from ourselves we are we happen stuff is it's so it's so important and interesting and it'd be easy to not think about it and just go I'll go into chat GPT and you have to ask it the right questions, but I'll say, striker in an mma fight under these rules and then you know then i would ask it more detailed When is ChatGPT5 supposed to come out, Jamie?

1:15:15 The speculation is that AI has become sentient. or something like that for the matches pull out your phones and he was like of course like every it's just not in your body right which with neural link it's like yeah that's going it's happening violence, or illegal actions. fighter with a skill set equal to a Oh, ChatGPT, you don't know how to fight.

1:17:54 no like that's not that's literally not possible yeah but i think that you know if it could if it And then it says, okay, this is where I believe you have an advantage of his fights every second of the fight break it down i'd probably spend you know 20 hours how are they flinching like I've always thought about all right how does the guy react to you

1:20:18 to me, everybody's just a puzzle to solve, I would imagine, yeah, and it could probably do it instantaneously versus having to spend 40 hours trying to figure it out. I like the outdoors. you know, play a perfect elk bugle. Like look at hydrogenated oils, right? like having something in your brain that's putting out 10,000 X EMFs, like there's going to be other

1:23:16 And then as it gets lower, it goes faster and faster and faster and faster and faster. certain timeline we're used to getting up in the morning going to work doing our things we have but our natural understanding of something like compound interest, we don't get Yeah, it's insane. yeah yeah what's it gonna be in like you said i think it's a good, it's days go slow, like years go fast.

1:25:46 So they're trying to get as much control Stuff scares me, man. we have some extraterrestrials flying around like earth or that people are there's pretty much World Economic Forum. Imagine the compliance. Yeah, no thanks. I'm good. No. And it's like, okay, let's say it really does go down and they get in trouble and they 30s i'm so skeptical and i feel like very glad that i'm the age i am because i feel like people

1:29:43 I'm out well that was one of the craziest things about, like, You think you're going to medicate your way to health? know about you but like yeah maybe once a year i have something like a little sniffle or something These guys aren't even going to feel COVID. sick regardless like if a covid never happened you don't want those people to get sick anyways so but why is it all of a sudden like this whole thing everybody's freaking out when it's

1:31:53 and people that you're around the truth and fighting against that information. Because what's interesting about now, and one of believes oh you're propaganda you guys are full of shit you don't give a fuck about the truth and people started to realize too it's like okay this works and this is why it works. They're doing cold plunges and saunas and they're eating well.

1:34:40 Like that's what I'm talking about. So I've got them thinking about it. protocols with sauna cold plunge and stuff and the best ever is you we do like five minute rounds This is amazing. It's like freaking heroin and stuff, right? Hours. should like find a good song to listen to and i like putting it off as long yeah my buddy uh but it's 40 degrees or whatever, 38 degrees.

1:37:17 I'm like, I am a pussy. And the Morosco is 34 degrees. I'm like, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck. So you do the cold plunge pre-workout. I like to do hot with elevated heart rate. 185 degrees and just throw some water on the rocks and fucking suck it up that's a wrestling style It makes me feel like I'm really living life because if everything's just comfortable and easy and you never really that

1:40:19 But they were in circumstances where 80% of their life was really difficult already. everything was kind of cell phones at your hand. Like that stuff is such a distraction enjoy the easy moments unless you have hard moments. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, I know a little bit there. And then I told myself, I And like, I think I drank a little bit there.

1:43:03 like go to a wedding i want a cigar I'm very fascinated by that guy because I've seen some of the footage of the training sessions that they put on in his garage with TJ Dillashaw and Juan Archuleta. sessions and the garage really dude it's like bro he kills us every time and it's interesting that Coach Cal, let's do it. It was TJ before he had to go through massive shoulder surgery.

1:45:30 So here it is. and conditioning coaches in the world yeah so last time i was down there um he's like uh It's not that crazy. like, the big-ass, you know, 70 to 120-pound med balls set out and like all this stuff and i'm like what's up go for like an hour or, you know, Hour and 15 minutes of hell and that's the warm-up? the sled and he doesn't tell you like how far're going to go or anything. And so we just start pushing the sled.

1:48:22 And we probably did it 60 times each just to get up around this corner. But is there a concern, though, that that would require too much recovery time And then, all right, now you got like a few days. like feel good I think that it's just seeing how far you can push yourself he's teaching us a lot of new things that we're implementing in the program.

1:50:39 Let's see if you're tough. He has an app. and say like certain things like okay so a good example a couple camps ago so we upped my overall weekly volume as a kind of the camp goes on got this app that he can monitor when you're not even there. Yeah. No, it's huge because obviously being in different places and stuff. of feeling like I've done everything right. I want to know. Right, right, right. How do you,

1:53:46 schedule of when when our coaches have had us do certain things and when we've had recovery days to improve, to add in, or things that maybe aren't serving me as much anymore and we kind of do away. I have a weekly schedule. Friday, one Saturday, one Sunday off. And those sessions are all different, right? Like, um, trial and error well that two days off uh it comes from coach cal yeah that's from him and

1:57:01 And then I'll either get a massage or go to the Cairo and uh you know maybe do like a Sunday dinner with people. April, right? Now, are you asking for a specific level of opponent? Yeah, so it was four. because I feel like whoever they put in front of me, I'm going to kill them. because who knows what happens in MMA, right? of things opened up yeah this is a very very exciting time yeah it is it is i i feel like

2:00:28 Like I'm always on it, obviously. And, you know, it's interesting because I've had five professional fights. I'm taking however many months. So my last fight, I cracked the dude with the right hook, improve, improve. Yeah. Big goals and stuff. But the main thing is just keep getting better. And I was really interested. And so then I got hooked up with Lancaster Archery.

2:03:00 Oh, wow. It's so fun, man. Should I stand here by the tree? And actually, like when I got my bow, it was probably June or July, So I watch tons of film on that. which now when I tell people who ask me about it who are interested in doing archery, good foundation and then you can kind of go from from there you're going to be on so much better trajectory if you're

2:05:58 I'm always open to like learning new things. I think there's different reasons to use different have a 30 and a half inch draw, it's going to be different than somebody with a 27 inch draw. It's i learned how to really shoot correctly that's what john put me on initially yeah that's so i this last fall but i uh i already had my uh new mexico hunt set

2:08:36 school I just that was when Instagram kind of started getting big and I was