Joe Rogan Experience #10153 — Joe Pyfer Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. So I'm going to post it. We're trying to break Ngannou's record right now. You know what I mean? but I got speed, I got power, and I walk at like 220 when I'm out of camp. I think that's the But I've been... he's with the PFL now, right? I always go to his fight with Neil Magny. Jose. Everything was difficult, learning it, learning jujitsu, learning how to box.

4:03 crazy hard and they're not that I don't know if they were just kind of stroking my ego. dude you were on another level like that's like when when people talk about a guy in the gym like You looked like you were on a fucking show in that fight you looked like you Like, I say how I feel. my bicep on my forearm two weeks before oh shit I was on antibiotics before that I got uh I split

7:14 So this is crazy. it, whenever I, bro, I mean that dude to me without being disrespectful is I don't know how he's don't you think you kind of have to be but I didn't think he boxed better than me, It's like you and guys like Pajeda, yeah. There's no like, even him like man i think a lot of guys are overrated It was pinpoint. There's a thing that happens to guys when they've taken too many shots. Yeah, you can see it. Yeah, I've never I've never been laid out

10:35 is so important when you know how to Everything, man. And also the mechanical advantage of that long frame, They pop for something that's not even a performance-enhancing level. That dude, I put him up against anybody ever. And he had said that he was going to be in America for like all freaks. And I've said this many times to a doctor after one of his fights i think it was one of his fights in australia and the doctor

13:44 I mean, he was something super special. Yeah, something crazy like that. wanted to keep it on the feet. He just smashes guys when he gets them on the ground. talk about karelin but karelin for the soviet union they called him the experiment that's no doubt about it. It's the hardest road. That too. with that documentary Icarus. it got released that the Sochi Olympics were rigged. And so what Russia was doing was

18:17 jars. And they doped everybody. But it's an amazing documentary. And they're all assuming that everybody else is doing this too. It's funny because a lot of people have said shit to me, I got Matt returned in a fucking contender series fight, dislocated, broke backwards. And how'd you do it? Dustin Stoltzfus. I got Matt returned in a fucking Yeah, so motherfuckers don't understand that this was I was given a 30% chance of being able to fight, you know, if I got the second surgery,

21:30 doors and, you know, you don't get to say shit to Dana White. And all you get is a bunch of nerds And I haven't seen another path. And yeah, I mean, eight years old, I started developing like a little bit of a confidence. And when I tell you there was no plan B, bro, there was no plan B. Or 2016, one of those years. That was the rule when I was fighting.

23:33 It's not a bad idea like I trained at Fight Factory, And Gerald Mearshart, he's got the most submission. Like, you're a powerhouse. That's my mentality. You better be ready to die in there. I'm I'm coming for you. Like I don't want no decisions two older two younger and yeah I started getting, as a one-year-old, um, from what I was told is cause I'd shit myself,

26:27 comparable to my father. It was more verbal on her end, but, uh, but yeah, so it started then. I've parted ways with him, and I don't want to talk to him. So I know my mom still lives at the house that I grew up in. Nobody could beat him in the gym. And if he's tried to finagle it, it's been to be like, hey, you were a bad kid. poor me it's about a i never through all this gave up on the dream to get to the ufc even when

29:47 I was obsessed with this. And nothing's changed. fuel and that's what it seems to have done with you i would never wish that on anybody but i often He's the one that introduced me, and I will give respect where it's due, right? I don't know if she was a prostitute or whatever but us so in my eyes like we never knew him really other than a handful of times we met him because

32:46 you know definitely always lied for his convenience for his story and uh yeah as he was learning I mean, he's one of the guys when I broke my arm, sends a message face down, ass up, just how you like it. has basically hurt every single person he has he, the way he lies, the way he has basically hurt he's gonna like he's got one eye, like visibility,

34:44 So I think that from what I've heard, I think it depends on the commission and where you're fighting. And, yeah, I mean, I think. but uh but i buy a train but my point is like i get back to a lot of Yeah, I mean. For 10 fights, that dude fought with one eye. But then look at the You know what I mean? Right. Well, you look at Yeah. It's a problem. But also, him on his feet is a fucking problem, too. Oh, man. From a guy that's not a wrestler. Right. Yeah, it's a problem. It's a problem.

37:18 Jack de la Madalena? Um I wanna bang Or some shit like that But one thing's for sure, he better not let me get that one, don't think that that's I don't think that's the next chapter for me and uh yeah there it is yeah You can hear your corner. But for me as a commentator and as an audience member, I was like, God, how lucky am I that I'm here for this?

39:46 I love Jon Jones. I mean, it seems like that's what they want to do. I don't think he has any interest, to be honest. he went ahead and got his elbow done too. That punching the thing is not recent. 30s. Bro, that's me now. After the fight, you think? fight i think that this is a fight that i'm very capable of winning at this point in time with the trajectory I'm on,

42:44 You had a broken left hand going into that fight? I think it was nine days. But, bro, it was terrible it was terrible did you find a way to tape it in some way yeah I mean we still taped it up like it And then three weeks later, I was playing basketball. Yeah. it could be wrong. Right. But that's, No, he's dead now. It was like one of the greatest displays of guts because he was out, man.

45:21 And Jose Luis Castillo, who's also a very tough guy, is the guy in the red. Like, I mean, it was one of those fights where you're just like, my God. I mean, some referees, you see you go down again like that. He's talking to the referee. Yeah. Oh, he's got him. But it's crazy if you think about how done Corrales was. but like you won't you don't get into a car i'm gonna give you my my okay my my thought right

48:27 I'll get scared. Good. I was going to sit in the living room. Wide body. That's a fucking great car. So that car is an all-wheel drive 2006 Mitsubishi Evo. Let me see. Cool. Honestly, I love him because we don't talk all the time, and I haven't talked to him in years. But now it has a 4G63. It's like almost 4,000 pounds. I'll smile all day. 808 horsepower is nuts.

51:32 Yeah, I had it. That was the first Corvette ever bought. It was a c5 z06 stock as hell Like I'm not a fan of it, and I can't fit in it very well. How dare you? They have GTRs that are like 2000 No. Yeah, that's scary. No, I just thought this was crazy. Watch the Camaro on that. That guy said, fuck it, full send. I'd be so upset. Bro, it's like they take like rust buckets, pieces of shit, like everybody would write off.

54:28 Yeah, I love cars. Yeah, like I've driven them. But I'm also American muscle, like, old school. shop car too so it handles and brakes real well but it's just there's I'll never get to do this. And his friend had a 70 Chevelle, and it was perfect. Got the perfect car he coasted into this gas station and I just what I like about They don't know. There's just so much going on in there.

57:55 Right. like find that commercial man that car is a monster but there's a company it's calvo right Oh man, dude, this shit makes me want to cry. It's that wing, too, though. No. I'm just not as good as that guy. That's beautiful man Look at that I love Dodge. Yeah. He's taking that up to 1,000 horsepower. And then Hennessy takes it, and he jacks it up.

1:01:24 It just changes the color. Did you believe in Santa as a kid? He did? I was 10. I've never heard of a viper in my life. It just changes the color. There was no fucking Santa. they just they become successful in life they're never gonna have that same gear as a person who if he's got an attitude problem like put that motherfucker in wrestling 100 wrestling is the

1:03:09 And then the kind of status you get from that, you really feel that. Like I testified I never wanted to see my mom again. I grew up a farm boy against my dad and the fighter, right? no more after i went to court. Oh, Jesus. I lived in, I lived in, it's Pennsylvania, but it's like 25 minutes outside of Philadelphia. It costs four grades, but they were all like preppy fuckers.

1:05:54 It was really weird. stomping me, breaking my, like broke my teeth. Um, I had two, two crowns, you know, cause of him, but when he was going through the light, he got T-boned, all the time he was on Vicodin Percocet Oxy and uh he was he definitely was addicted there was I got this empty hole in my chest because I didn't understand emotions, And even then, I still carry over some bad attitude problems.

1:08:59 How old were you then? um unfortunately like he he had some things that uh people would pick on him for um like being hoarder of comics that were all destroyed from cat piss um like every part of the house would six fucking times and it would still smell like cat piss and pneumonia and it was a very embarrassing school um it was either dyfus or some child services at a certain point that was like who's

1:12:12 Well, for sure. Or any at least i'm settled. I don't have that like anger like waiting to explode, you know Yeah, I just I just didn't see a life for me man. I was so stupid and when I say stupid like she was married to him for 20 years they had five blood kids and uh yeah I mean i owe my mom respect for that because she's a hard working woman So you're a kid, and you know from getting beat by this person, it's like, I don't want to make him mad.

1:14:30 I was dumb as shit. it sounds like a terrible thing. I would never wish it on anyone, but when I know that someone I still talk to him today, you know. really well i didn't know him personally outside of the gym you know that's where i always saw him Okay. Got a job. Was only there for a short period of time. man, I'm going to kill everybody I'm fighting.

1:18:21 like it's almost like you're you're trapped in fear man he said some shit about putting a bullet in my head he said he was gonna come back and put a last time and yeah, I mean shit man. So I've just had like betrayal, betrayal, betrayal, betrayal, They're like, why do you live where you live? Yeah. Like, we don't have tons of money, and we're in a shitty area, but John does it to help.

1:20:52 live in the best place but it's like I live in a place that I feel safe in and for many a years I thought there was something wrong with me. is we go to pick her up. The whole family goes to pick her up. My mom, my four sisters, me, Like, as soon as she opens the door, like, gave the key, grabs her by her hair, grabs her by her pants, fucking throws her, chucks her in the fucking room, starts strangling her in, like, in like you like put like threw on the fucking couch and then start strangling her in between the

1:23:04 like you're, you can talk about anything. You like a conversation I want to have like you're you can talk about anything you're open-minded like going to take it from me. Come on, try it. And you might be, if you beat me, you're one of the Was absolutely dominating the fight. I got one real loss, man. Because you're like what I would call on the cusp.

1:24:58 You know, mental health is something I fight every day. So I just have a lot of people that I talk to close. But or you should try this and try that. but one of my biggest things is buying a beach house and that super car I've always wanted, that Dodge Viper. But I'm okay with that. I don't want to forget it. That's not going to go away. And you can think about positive things, and you can think about growth and expansion and progress.

1:28:39 And that can rot you out from the inside, never let go and i don't want to be like that well you're not going to be like that i'm already not Don't rely on this for education. had like 33 confirmed kills or something like that. I watched his documentary and to hear the And if it's in wrestling or if it's in soccer or if it's in basketball, keep doing it.

1:31:50 If you stop evolving, you pass away. I know I know Sean and shit, and I always talk about him. That's your division. Yeah. Both very beatable. That's what I think. I like Sean Strickland. but I don't think he's fought anybody that can test his chin yet. So he knows where – I think he's a guy – let's put it this way. I watched his interview on the way here, on the flight, and he's not stupid.

1:34:26 And even before I was in the UFC, he said, hey, you want to come train? He sounds like a drunk person to me. In the way that Sean has been chin-checked a few times. You hit his hands, you hit his forearms. That's what I think. It was going to be tough. When somebody makes it ugly, your energy level's down and you're not that tactical no more. I want to see him.

1:36:55 Yeah. Yeah, fat. it's like my it. using to do this? Using a nutritionist and a weight cutting expert? No. No? I'm just not. I train twice a day still. take in very little water take in very little water um you know the proper nutrition to kill Whatever my body's happy at. I put it on quick and I don't lose it. Like I'll wake up the next morning and it goes right back

1:40:20 I don't know of anybody who has a good camp. I mean, it's the winter. Do you take like a suite of nutrients? Bro, I was fucking blown away when I was out there for Brendan Allen, the best stuff for recovery, the best stuff for training, amazing coaches. Bro, I'm wearing fucking sweatpants under this. But now I'm so conscious about it. Sean wants to train.

1:43:12 I mean, that guy is elite in terms of people who just train grappling. He bailed out of a bet Randy Brown's how I met him. I can't do it. I mean, like, Kelvin's like a hit or miss, man. Yeah He's also had a very long career Yeah, it was a good fight. You're not just fighting talent. I mean, he's missed weights so many times. The difference between him at 85 and him at 70 wasn't stark.

1:46:18 I told people, too, in my post-fight, too, that it was Sean's first time being overseas and whatnot. watching that guy fight because it's very high level. And his striking is very good too. You this is what I don't care if he gets mad. He was supposed to run, like, give him a structure, tell him what to do. He shot one time and that was it, you know?

1:48:13 doing all this like dancing shit like I was like you think so huh and then that's when it turned I don't have to give him credit. I hope he gets the, you know, my feelings for him aside. Yeah. About him not getting it. But who else? And then you have who else? I mean, that's what Leon would feel like. But Conor and Chandler is interesting, too. Oh.

1:50:44 Sometimes. So I'm like, sometimes don't think about it every day. Do you read comments? Sometimes. Because I don't always want to fight. Like, bro, I want to live life. I want to go to Switzerland. I did almost fight one of the fans. man, of guys showing up went into a Muay Thai gym Just some dumbass in there troll. I did. You don't forget. You don't talk about people's parents.

1:53:26 It's like, I'll have this conversation with you off camera all day long. You look like you fucking figured out how to reverse time, man. Do you wish you fought? I'm not fucking—I'm going to stay out of range on that. I took a little bit of it before. like I was a special person until I started was nothing that really made me feel like I was a special

1:55:20 experience. And some of the guys that I was training with were going into boxing, this one kid uh Dana Rosenblatt who went on to be the New England middleweight And, you know, there's a lot of that from the early days of MMA as well. They beat the fuck out of each other. fighting i was already doing stand-up comedy but i was like oh they figured it out this is it

1:57:25 And that's how I grew up when I seen it. you know jerry quarry you know who he is famous boxer fought muhammad ali back in the day His brother was just as fucked up as he was at the end of his life. ailing boxing grades now fully depend on his sister who watches over him their humble part Right. now there's another way that comes on right right? The expectation and things like that, that I hold myself to, but I'm like, man, like,

2:00:45 They're champions. It's like that cold sweat, But then that's where you make that decision. and my career and the way I fought because if you watch my early fights, Yeah, there's a difference between coaching yourself to believe it and actually fucking believing it motherfucker, look at that dude. Okay, they got to get over the anxiety. They got to get over the pressure

2:03:28 So there's that, in the back of your head, there's that fear like, ah, shit. Do you think that he should be 170? I just think he's lazy. There's such a difference in size. I mean, obviously, Pejeta pulls it off, but he's a freak. The power. But you get a, or even a Paul Acosta. Yeah. It's a big difference, which is the Calvin argument. His back is like layers of bricks.

2:05:55 This fucker, when he gets you in something, you think, man, he's squeezing with everything he deadlifts more than me squats more than you fuck him i don't like this big fucker dude He can box, man. Fucking did it, man. I watched him for years. They're good. It's like we were watching the Jose Luis Castillo fight it's like it's a tough Uri's a bad man.

2:08:03 I'm coming. Him against Bejeda, that is a very exciting fight. Glover Teixeira is a bad man. Jamal is so good at finding your fucking chin. The Johnny Walker one. When everybody And the thing is like when a guy gets knocked out a lot, Well, then you've got to think of Jan Bohovic. He's too big. He went through so many camps in a row. I think he burnt out.

2:10:34 Sean spars more than anybody, and he gets hit less than anybody, It just looks odd. The problem with dipping with kicks is like. Ilya's. I like watching too. I do think Ilya wins. He's a 45er. and I understand why Volkanovsky took that last minute fight against Makachev. strong enough to withstand what you're But if I was in adjusted to Volkanovski style he had a completely good solution he had a

2:13:58 right? You go, you take a short notice fight. Sure. Couldn't wrestle. Alistair-Overeem fight. Alistair fucked him up. I I've never had anything like that. Do you think that the heavyweight... Why? Andy Ruiz fought This idea of a super heavyweight class, we've never utilized it. They don't listen to me. minimum every But without, like, boxing, there's four different fucking belts at each weight class.

2:17:28 I like Impa. And Joaquin is another one. they were talking shit on me when i walked in the fucking pi though oh yeah so yeah but me When I look at a guy like Buckley, and hopefully he watches this or he doesn't watch this and get offended, You see those guys that plateau. when he's on. is one of the fucking dangerous human beings ever. Choked him unconscious.

2:20:02 He came out, threw a wild right hand, took him down, choked him out. Bare knuckle fighting is not getting the respect that it In an interview, it's the worst shit I've ever listened to. That was a crazy fight. super cocky there's a thing about being confident and being delusional or overconfident or not You're not going on your terms when you're going backwards the whole time.

2:22:18 I'm very interested to see who prevails. gassed out at the end of the first round. He was throwing bombs. But Sean just wilted him. He's so accustomed to that Like, he's not going to fight Paulo Costa. Three years is crazy. Just because of all that shit. You think? It's his persona. He's a gangster, man. Okay, so he is talking about coming back. So I got this injury

2:25:21 Generally. No, I don't think he's going to be at UFC 300, He's drinking wine and talking shit with a Rolex on. See, that's like – and he's also, he's getting older as well. And, you know, if he really is going to fight in June I think they should figure out what guys actually weigh when they are low body fat, hydrated, and say this is your weight class.

2:27:45 One of them was always the GSP versus Silva, Anderson Silva. He was throwing up all the time. Don't get me wrong. You're fucking Pejeta. what the weight of a five-round fight Let's say I walked around at 85. But that's really not where he should have been. They should add the weight class. They should have strength and conditioning coach ever, ever. And when I got into, so I was sitting at a light one

2:30:29 Like, I don't even know you. We didn't do anything crazy, anything hard or anything. I was skinny as fuck still. Cause I just came off of being, you know, having two surgeries and all just, for some reason, I never thought I needed one. I made it to the UFC on the first, before Webb, like, and I'd be fucking Gerald Mearshart, the middleweight submission, highest fucking

2:32:52 it's not worth the risk it's not worth the the nerve pain right it just doesn't make sense for a lot of med ball slams, a lot of kettlebell stuff and um yeah that's I was like, I'm going to fucking eat. Yeah, you looked awesome. I've been called fucking skinny my whole life. But, oh, you do have the trailer. I'm so fortunate to be in the position that I'm in to be able to watch these fights and one of my favorite things is

2:35:12 If you look at Jack and you look at me, the way my mind is, No. So I'm really honest with myself, since I got into UFC. Can't say it yet, All right. Go find it. All right. I was always terrified if I lost, I knew I was getting screamed at or I was going to get hit. Dana's like, I want to put you on the contender series. I wasn't ready to be forgotten.

2:38:50 This fight should be an absolute war.