Joe Rogan Experience #10154 — Matt Serra, Din Thomas & John Rallo Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience I love that's a lot like caffeine, but like even more really yeah, yeah, I see that 7-eleven No, it's just a little pouch. Chemical is not bad for you. What's bad for is the delivery system of six? Oh, those liars. please Jamie we just say it says while nicotine itself doesn't cause dementia My thing is, the cigarette. they throw in the cigarettes to make them

3:08 Zinz I'm an everyday zin guy am I gonna if I stop it am I gonna be like no I've got the other day for But the thing is, I don't know if that's my biology. had to get a new spine, and now he's on a ventilator. They were very funny. lucky when I was growing up that I had friends that liked it that were good You gotta get coke. Yeah, that's not Maybe they didn't steal our name, but it's kind of now

6:14 And I'm sorry, what did you say is in that again? ones. If you can show the ingredients for alpha brain, if you could. There's lutein. alpha GPC We know we need vitamin D. And if you're not getting it from the sun, you can supplement it. Morning stuff, fucking talking stuff, night stuff. The steak shake, that's great So you don't get the pre-made ones?

9:12 Get some eggs, just eat a dozen eggs and some bacon. And I had a, I had a, it was, I don't know what it was. Dude now listen. I was a little nervous, too Sit down no stevia First of all, it's hard to get a You haven't had that mint cream? So I, when I, when I... Jamie, sit down. No, Stevie, uh... No, my, my wife, you know, my wife, my wife started by trying to put these doctors and couldn't get it.

11:26 They want to treat the problem. They don't want he's like I want to turn back time with you and shit like that She looks pretty good today. That's wild that he went on what he became a senator Republican I got you babe the hippie movement right with the fucking bell That's fucking great. No, that movie is fucking great. I haven't watched that in ages.

14:08 You know what I know? Asian people just keep working. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't just like yellow face. Oh, the Chiefs game. I think it's from the tribe that he's from. I love strong like female characters Vasquez from fucking aliens. Oh, yeah My brother Jamie too. No, that ship is sailed. He reads the books, but anyway, this show was a cool show this show on rebels, right and it's about this young Jedi

17:33 and he leaves a fucking hero. because he's a dude. You have two of these he's been on this planet. They find them on they have two of these I can't believe it on this thing. I can't believe it on this thing. I can't believe it on this thing. hold on i disagree i don't think he's riding a bitch The guy that he's talking about surely was I mean I didn't even think he was a badass in the show

20:38 Like listen, right now Han Solo would be toxic. being a bit of a, you know, we're unsure about Lando. I love him in a group. Cause listen, this show doesn't come without perks. No, we're talking about MMA. So you get gone go to war you got money. Yeah, you get your boys and then you're like look not I don't know about that nerd Just get someone to do it. That's a fun game. You should get the USC to do that. Do you

24:25 You'd be fucking awesome at that. up. If I go, I do a 7 a.m. class, I fucking do my podcast, You're you're a disciplined man. If you just a fucking dorky kid. Oh, yeah I'm not really into it, but the Contractors Showdown Cut that! That's great. Step forward the accelerator. So I was a little like I hope I'm not like this tomorrow. So I had a five-hour energy

28:40 how we feel in an hour. Should we take a poll? What is your... You were like the four horsemen. You think a hyena would want them? That's crazy spit up my cool. That's a donkey. Oh what I say they don't fuck you a mule Yeah, that's what I think it is man, and that thing's trying to bite it like what is going on here It's just like it dies right then and there dies like you got shot like wow that's crazy falls down leg stiff

32:10 Altercation and the guy who's on the ground has a dude and he's like setting up a heel hook and the guys trying to It's so funny man. Is it this video, Joe? Yo, what did not show the guy getting shot the dick now What did you ever try horse you try to listen? Yes? How is it good? It tastes like wild game? I tried it in Montreal. This is amazing restaurant Montreal called Joe beef and

34:25 So watch this way so this guy this gotta be Brazil. I don't know but look see the other guy comes over kicks him Bro, bro, bro, dude, keep that shit between you and Tom Segura I swear me because I start my day with a steam he was quiet and then once in a while you hear like a Goggins come out of him like I CAN HANDLE THIS! He did it. I don't know that I'll do that. Yeah, but I kind of like little I like the part where I don't want to do it

38:22 bought one but I purposely didn't put it together yet. I get my head straight and I get in the steam, What don't get more of it? Yeah, talk to me Jamie look at teen prevents the formation A research is quick to caution, however, that harmful effects of smoking strengthened by Is that was one of the hardest things for his writing. So there's like a synapses didn't fire as fast. Oh

41:09 Interesting right interesting. Yeah, man, as long as it's Oh, we'll get you some. So, but would you take more than one a day? Yeah, I'll take one two three a day or a day if I feel like it I was happy when I saw that guy You stopped that shit. We wanted to find out what's the definition of holistic. Is it the problem might be in just that people have co-opted that term and use

43:33 Characterized as a treatment of the whole person, taking into account mental and social picky my eating right so I was afraid what he was gonna tell me so when we Yeah, so I go to my school. Yeah, you know, you really got to make sure your wrist stays parallel yeah could you imagine for real you get a little If there's a watery part of this, I'm like, oh.

45:58 And then when they seen the stuff that was highlighted I don't it's called thorn but it's that and I'm on different supplements from I don't eat I don't eat vegetables And Ari had taken a shit in a Tupperware and brought it on stage. We were in Valentino's I don't think you'll see it Are you not even away from it? I know right? I can't look at that get that off the screen. I will throw

49:53 buddies Abe my black belt Abe and I'd always meet up with him because we have there but it felt weak for a bit after that so I haven't rolled super hard around his knee with like tibia raises and those step downs and walking They're hoping that all that work gets done but if you really want to make available to me. slant board Throw a couple plates on and just, you know.

52:51 that'll help with some of that. But I've talked to people that had no meniscus at all and they got one of those things that was like my knee buddy and we have to stop every how many feet? Old-school shite, it's so my goes the best. I love very long Fucking love that guy, but I love the two of you together when you guys were in the corner. It's food is taken care of and you have the most sophisticated training environment

56:05 But if I got a guy who's out here and he's been with you for you know, yeah with them, you figure it out together. Unless you're trapped in a too small of an environment and your coach is just not able to fit the needs of like Taxes they save money with taxes out there maybe you're enhancing your education, and I could like them. I'm not beat. I didn't sign on for anything else like in other words

58:49 But I'm not a part of that. Oh yeah, I know. And he's like a baby. Unstoppable I love it and what he was carrying Henry sahoota with his tongue out. Oh It's incredible. Dropped it was almost about to get stopped, but then it was almost about the end of the round not only did he recover endurance for a guy who cuts that much weight and he could push a pace and his size

1:00:55 just talking to him and kind of consoling him. Tweeter man that's a very specific skill and it's hard to handle. just to be able to deal with that aspect of the fight. He did a lot of waiting on him, but he fucked him up. In his first fight in the UFC, You understand? Kevin Hollins usually talking shit, winning or losing. in there whoever fucking Kevin Holland Kevin Holland you understand like he

1:03:35 it's a different thing he's doing that point karate type movement like this It's kind of like that. I think wonder boy has the perfect con. Here's the perfect con. He's genuinely the nicest guy in the world I mean, there's a Raymond Daniels. He was another guy that was like an elite point fighting guy And in Bellator he has one of the wildest knockouts excuse me not Bellator and glory and glory kickboxing

1:06:28 But he's still fighting. Like he's fighting in karate combat. distance like that, that's Also, if you're your whole life is spent fighting and they're just so fast, they beat you to it. So interested in that fight is you think his Achilles is straight, dude. I don't know I'd like to write on the more I need to have a little more I will know I would assume he's had to be on the bpcs and no you can't you can't even on injury

1:09:27 Taking away his singles real quick, bop, bop. It was like, hit by a sniper. That's what I'm saying. I think Jamal's going to surprise him. That man, dude, I think this is gonna be a great fight. Oh, yeah the thing about Paheta though is he's And he's coming down with the right hand every time World championship caliber athlete. He's the world champ. He just released his title no doubt

1:12:13 Even Yuri who thought the fight was prematurely stopped, he wouldn't say it inside the octagon. Okay, went to the right guy. I bet Jamal got all the good stuff Punching set where he's those straight where you know, Paheta is a little loopier Like you know like at my school Real close on it. So it should be I think it's a pick-em-fight. Me too. I can see a bunch of scenarios going both ways.

1:15:09 The one thing about Jamal, he's smart though. Yeah, he's repeating you see like the way he's able to land those things is so surprising and he's just got this very specific strategy I was like, I couldn't walk. I Guarantee you if they do some bone density. He's got some fucking Viking rock bones that that He had only six weeks to prepare for that thing.

1:17:24 He could have stopped. Dana was like somebody to stop this Dana was like scared He put a real beating on Calvin that it takes a long time to recover from I mean the amount of Yeah, that's he can be standing like. Well, I see a single for Aljo he's still, what is he, 33? And he talked openly about like why guys like Connor why those guys gas out guys like Aldo

1:20:13 yo what an actor he's gonna take the world Hollywood by storm he's playing That happened in real life. I'm going to get to about nine. I loved the first road house. What's that guy's name? Yeah, he would be perfect. Listen we talked about Star Wars a little bit. Fuck Star Wars ever since... And it's pre-Star Wars. Did you see Dune and Dune Part II?

1:23:08 I'm telling you right now, Josh Brolin's, first of all, I don't think Josh, from Goonies No, he is. Dennis. he fights at the end of it is a guy. I had a jujitsu match verse this Babs. I swear to It's um, was that a nagga? Yeah, it's nagga in But yeah, you can fold it a tiny bit. You almost had that arm bar. I want Joe to see it because Joe might be jiu-jitsu. Watch one more second because I do a nice back take

1:26:56 Even some of like but I don't believe timothy chalmers beating this guy in anything other than checkers I knew he needs to have some kind of super power. I'm not buying none of what I was just saying. So listen, these books came out in the 70s and George Lucas got a, he took a lot from Like a good old white boy just been out there. The deal Joe we have three kids and a and a wife and you got a routine

1:28:31 Yeah, you feel like a pervert. Disney movies suck, man. But I'm, yeah, so I'm when I watch, Just I listen. I know I could have went another route my wife really uh and let me tell you I didn't tell you this last time Joe to lose weight. That was it. She snaps down she takes the the back and and you know, she's a blue belt. She fought a purple belt The whole setup with the school and all like he's like his family's part of it now and it happened naturally

1:31:53 Family business, you know Dean have any new kids You got the BMF, you got the BMF fight. You can do it is a dangerous motherfucker He beat who else would he beat Chandler Chandler? I mean, that's wild. And he tapped he didn't realize he went out. Oh right, and he tapped he didn't Four five maybe and he's on he's on the main car. I mean here's my thing with him man

1:35:10 I mean, yeah, I mean, but the thing is, I think they're trying to bring him along. Calvin Kader and Aljo, Holly Holm and Kayla Harrison. That's another good fight. That's the first fight on the prelims. Whoo! I just watched Kayla fight Aspen Ladd And Holly's a big strong chick. I mean, I know she's 42 now I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yes, I'm sorry And how much strength training she continues to do like you don't get that big without a lot of strength training

1:39:34 And you didn't expect to come and it's like you know cuz he would chill and just sit back sit back sit back My man was on that. knockout was terrifying. He was like a superhero. Bro he it's like everybody else is a child. Yeah when he gets going. Yeah, everybody else is like a child That's some bullshit. Well, it sucks. That's for sure There was like some shenanigans.

1:41:41 with Muhammad Ali back when he was Cassius Clay. They had to give him new gloves. But I think, like I said, I think there's a bunch of shenanigans that were involved. 40 yeah, that's it and he got popped they Tell me what that is. And samples collected on June 24, 2023, July 12, 2023. presence of exogenous testosterone, which based on its values was determined as a new

1:45:04 state regulators, like you know, you. Just fucking make it legal and sell it Oh, a lot of dudes did. Damn. Yeah, so there's dudes are like 25 years old that have wrecked their endocrine system. They probably can't have kids really When you're on TOT, it's like fuckin' birth control for men. There's a male birth control pill that came out but that radically lowers testosterone

1:47:51 Dominant women who have cuck men are gonna force them to take that stuff Because they don't want that as the wife they want the alpha Yeah Yeah, but they want to do that to the guy they some someone like doing that with social media, trying to be an 18, That was really hard to see when we were kids because I only knew motherfuckers in my neighborhood. Right?

1:49:19 like that, okay. My wife's lucky enough that you know, we're lucky enough. She gets to be a stay-at-home mom and whatnot New Long Island so I don't know where it is in different school systems, but I didn't like stuff like that And they want to see you got to suck a dick really on the ball, you're gonna get wacky people teaching kids. And in that there's something about like running into really cuckoo people when you're young that's probably good for you just so you know

1:52:30 I think that's where me and Matt have a benefit I'm like, listen, I'm a dirty comedian Yeah. I remember finding, like my kid's 15 now. Those people that took a chance to got on that fucking boat and made it across the ocean It's got to be overwhelming to be a kid and to think you gotta worry about climate change It's like this is crazy. Where we didn't grow up doing that.

1:55:06 This is a wild business. You know what I mean? on? Lorenzo and Frank Fatida, it's amazing. They funded the whole thing. He he'll talk at two o'clock in the morning for like hours just about matchups and shit I'm like oh well. You're always thinking of what to say. Even the question is like, what's your dream? You know, that's a crazy question She didn't edit it out.

1:58:18 It wouldn't have been funny if they called fucking Oh, just for fun? He was like, you knocked out my teammate. Promise my mom, I'm done. Go back and watch that one. I thought Gleason might have won that one. Might have won that oneason t-ball fight. Yeah, go back and watch that Jesus Christ the thing about glazen that always used to freak me out was the fact that he could make 155

2:00:32 Glacier was a house though. Yeah, I think the thing is a beam looks natural He's much smaller. Well, he's young. That's also, I want to kill you motivation. You know what? The gets in Barbosa, that's the best one And it happened quick too, man. Yeah, you know if you're an armlock or you know usually it's like ah you know and they'll stop if anything

2:03:38 right back so I'm like hey I'm in your bedroom hey remember I slept over you It was and his eyes would just open the whole time like dude'm like, dude, is this fucking what am I dealing with? I go come to think of it. Nobody's seen this motherfucker the city and uh i was going with this purple ballot. I didn't even like this guy after we know anyway so they didn't stop the match. No, you know, it was during the whole night of rolling

2:06:47 Weird. So then I found out they did something at Black Belt It wasn't yours ago. It could be from this is very old. Yeah, it was a DVD So I remember Hanzo took me out to eat afterwards and he goes, but I want you to come with me, I want him to run for president. It's like some old school espionage shit. In a half a second. something like that, right?

2:10:07 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, first time ever doing any kind of combat, He goes, this is what you do like the day of the fight? I was a little nervous, you know And I'm thinking the crazy's with their diet and this and that he goes, uh, this is what you do seconds he gets out so I get a point, but then they started on,

2:11:38 I'm like, dude, this fighting is exhausting, He gave me my first cauliflower here Hensel jumps up on the day. Oh, I don't thought he was going me and you had to put his call hands James Waring. Eric Paulson is a very good fighter. I mean he tried to go through the striking side with his grappling experience Paulson He was very good. Yeah, I remember I trained with him in Japan the first time I fought uno and he beat the shit out of me

2:14:44 Dan Henderson, yeah, he was a Dan Henderson. Oh, that was in UFC, yeah. That was Dan Henderson. He fought Tom Erickson for 45 minutes. Me too. I I think that guy that's when she that what I love about those guys is that if Realize Chuck was a wrestler. Yeah, that was a good right hand by Chuck Yes, very hard. Fador for sure. I mean when Randleman threw him, remember that?

2:17:32 How are you starting a podcast? Who the fuck is he accurate? That was Fedor when he was really Fedor. That was February. know how it was for you or any of you guys, you all competed. I could have done this I could then then you watching other dudes make all this money and you think damn man And you think you're still that guy that you were when you were 20 when you were obsessed with it

2:20:26 So at that point you're looking at him, this motherfucker is one of the greatest of all I think they're really doing him a disservice because the lights been turned off twice you're not doing anything for a year. and fucking knocked him out. But at 170 homes that's the most terrifying guy on the planet right because he's fucking horrific he knocks you out with one punch

2:22:48 oh, he's not gonna make it. raging ally Who could strike? ever got in there with a dude that had a skill set of like George who could I know he's not really an 85er, If you're not gonna have the time to prepare You know crazy and he had his back. Yeah, I mean he he could have did a lot more with that I know it's a fun fight. That's why I'm gonna have goose bumps before that one starts

2:26:06 like fightin', something that he loves to do. So they could call him the Duke, you know Oh, yeah, he hit him with that right hand. I know, yeah. I don't remember it. And he was like nah, I'm straight no, they fought a while he fought a while he got really lit up in the leg So he wanted me and Hikado Ameda to go with everybody, all the Japanese guys, they were filming it.

2:28:44 But so I went with Genki Sudo at one point We just lost Rob Kamen. Okay, that's not and started fucking people up. You could just stay in close. He couldn't bend his ankle and his doctor's like it look if you keep kicking with that thing. We might have to remove it He was the combinations. He was the first guy that like perfected the duchy that That's what he's a guy he died young to so I love about you jitsu. He died young to he died

2:32:49 Bring on ganky motherfucker had with his kicks with his Everybody like that movie was legit. So if Anderson fell in love with that Steven Seagal it makes sense what about how about Alpha Justice Alpha when you get in the clinch, just grab him by the nose. you're not gonna use that really and so he made his wife hold pillows so Chris Liebman didn't get close to a man that was row that was

2:36:08 and then he goes to England and then he finds himself. He was on another planet back then. Cuz he he beat up Tito and Tito. I remember he came up to me. Imagine a guy that's that good at MMA and fighting is actually a real bank robber It was last year God damn it. It's out right now. Oh, okay that was when I seen him at that club. Yeah, show Lee Murray.

2:40:04 That's crazy should have died and lived and then next thing he's hitting mitts and then after they're planning a bank robbery Is there a video of him hitting the pads after being stabbed in the heart see if you can find that cuz it's so crazy Oh, it was on YouTube. I believe this thing does all of my spit this thing out He goes, all right. You saw it approved?

2:42:17 Oh boy, and they did it on camera? well Sorry to bring that up I said can he have this he said yeah, I think so so I gave it to him well I know, that was the, yeah. What year did Luke Rockhold fight Vitor? Because Vitor was just like a fucking silverback. Gracie yeah, that's what I'm Victor Gracie. That's what we called him back then we called him Victor

2:44:45 Alvaro Romano, you know, the guy at Ginostica Naturale. across the cage like so crazy. How many years they had TRt for when did it start? He was still fucking people up. he was on his back and Fador jumped on him, Dan's an animal. We should mention that he won that read that rematch. I got fucking hiccups. Oh, yeah, they are They had another round their fight was not over because they thought Anderson thought he KO'd him

2:48:39 the fuck? Man, mentally too. How do you come from that adrenaline dump right? Meanwhile bismuth survived how tough is this motherfucker one eye and survives. He's a savage It was great his podcast was a wild he's good. He's entertaining Yeah, he's a fun guy there Are we getting tricked by watching pad work? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it looked like.

2:51:04 Like if he doesn't get him in the first couple rounds what kind of gases is he Licensing Commission the promoter is requested to have an event that day. We did not receive any proposed cards and thus have no details Let's imagine Mike Tyson is fighting some young, that dude did a fucking crack. Champions like Tyron we would go whoa keeping an eye on this kid this guy might be something someday like he's on the way up

2:53:50 You know, this is finally a dude like he didn't hurt like the Tommy Fury dude I mean, is there a drug test on an exhibition? I don't know. That's a good question because if there's not ye fucking When he came back for the Roy, it was two different interviews to different humans. Yeah a hundred percent there 100% but he's had a bunch of back issues He had real bad sciatica. He was having problems walking and stuff. He was walking

2:56:49 You know Tyson's people are gonna be in the back saying don't let him, you know, wrestle. He'll be wrenching those fucking arms the way he used to. If Tyson can have a flashback to the glory days, if there's just like a moment where he just sees a combination and empties it on him. That would be wild to watch. Yeah for Jake to hurt him and you're trying to hit it with jabs. The customado Tyson was the whole problem. The head movement.

2:58:06 But my whole thing is this, man. Brand on the show. Be careful. I stay at no man. LA. I don't like LA, but it's weird. Yeah, it's weird now And then we're gonna put a news exactly what Gavin Newsom said that was so hilarious It's like 1980s Roadhouse line. He was like, you shouldn't But it's like, you know, if he says the right things What? That's idiocracy. That's real.

3:01:31 Asked him to run for president. That's him. Oh my god, it's so good. Mike Judge is the man. But I fucking love office space Like I don't think idiocracy or office space Damn that's a funny movie. It was pretty funny. They don't even make funny movies anymore Take that name So that's it for now we'll put a bookmark on it If it stays in here it's fine.

3:06:12 Yep, got Ground Control, it's groundcontrolbaltimore.com, fightpromotionshowgunfights.com. But they speak English to earth I'm gonna watch it watch it though the 1883 yeah yeah but that's what life was like back then. That was a brutal existence. They're like, look, I want to keep it to our traditions, Dean? What about Modern Roses? Anything that'll make you shit in a box?