Joe Rogan Experience #10156 — Royce Gracie Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience you are one of the most unusual people that's ever lived. Jitsu until UFC won in 1993. Once America find out, the whole world will find out. and we're willing to to try to find out we're not saying that we're the best will happen in Brazil when we came to America was a different level it was It's like outside the stadium, Wow.

4:06 So I was like, I wanna be one of them. They all could have done the same thing my cousins. Yeah, I could have done the same thing. Mm-hmm. But come on by the looks orders and his order was like, do not hurt your opponent. That's so amazing that you guys had so much confidence in Jiu Jitsu that they wanted you My mother's order was totally different.

6:31 They're not going to touch you. of martial arts. Uncle Carlos had 21 kids. all those different early matches hours and 40 minutes. One round straight. Wow. So it's yeah they just they want to put it to the test. That was the main thing. They want to I'll put it back on the center of you. No, you're the one who made a mistake. make a mistake, we're going to play forever.

10:16 Like what a chemo way 250 Not the most technical, but he was pure strength. yep yeah just jacked full of juice enormous Jesus tattoo on his stomach the I got jumped on the street once when I was like 14 years old man. I want to be part of that, the Gracie. I need them for me to use. Right. So it's more for me to know how they move. Yeah. Distance that's management, distance management.

13:55 It had never been in America at least. you're going to get disqualified. It it's like don't do it again sir when you don't know Jiu Jitsu, Like it was even doing martial arts for long time already. So I had a completely distorted idea of my ability to fight We're gonna control and turn him into a student. So we were more concerned about gaining a student

16:46 Horion was like my second father. Half an hour there's a person come in and leave and come and go. what happened. Put on TV, second UFC, people coming from everywhere. There was applications Watching you in UFC one. it was like so many people okay, this thing's for real. Yes Like there had never been a moment like that where one martial art had emerged with such force

20:31 Practicing throwing each other around like what's the point? You know and no one knew it's so interesting that everyone see that like I mean, thank God it came along because who knows where martial arts would be today if I mean, now if you want to fight, you have to know Jiu Jitsu. in a rudimentary sense, like they understand defense. I gotta know when I'm too close and he's gonna hit me.

23:43 Don't look at that way. I Don't look at that way I representative of jujitsu and the reason why the UFC became so exciting was not just because guy doesn't know what he's doing you're gonna fucking kill him he doesn't have a chance You just gotta know what you're doing. About 145, yes. 200 pounds, the heavyweight champion at the time. set that up. You'd have to set that up, bring a camera crew and the whole deal.

28:05 I would choke him out, I would subdue him. back. Well, it was a lot of defense. It's interesting now. A mean If it's boring for the audience tough shit. If you're on the bottom get up and to go and you're dominating me and you're closing in on me first round, you should begin in the second round. That's what I think. One 15 straight through, go straight.

31:27 You see, overtime. but the bell rings. With one mounted on top of the other or on the back. want to make things more realistic I think that's the only thing that makes sense. You got in a superior position. You were about to finish him. I like it. Yeah. I think it bell rings whoo saved by the bell right how do we restart that one well you The right way to do it then is one round. One 15 minute round or one 25 minute round

35:56 he doesn't have that quick twitch that fast twitch muscle and the one that that you have to fight for five rounds and knowing like when to push. Like some But if I drop you off and say goodbye, This like Dan Severn I remember that day. but Higa was able to get out, to get out, Just playing defense. He couldn't hit me. When you would close the distance and get a hold of them, they would grab your gi instinctively.

39:13 Human instinct. Yeah. the moment they start to sweat they just like whoop like hold it up to a salmon Yes, now it's a sport. Like, don't be in a position where you get need in the head. and his knees are free and you're not blocking your head, my god he got his back and just boom boom just fucked him up like you didn't even need to put two guys are standing and one guy feints and the guy throws a punch and the guy

42:38 Yeah, you got to protect the back of your head the back your head's vulnerable if you're in a situation where a guy can punch That's a thin little piece of bone. But still. The cast that they put underneath, all that taping and the gloves just to protect your One time would be great. But if there's no weight division, Like Kamaru Usman is the weight cutting.

44:38 Everybody, you can't fight, I mean, except for BJ Penn. time limit, no weight class, no gloves. Yeah old school. I think they should take the father of Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood. we eat you, yeah, yeah, we should put piranhas push me against and hanging on top. Oh, yeah, that's right That's so ridiculous. Yeah. It's like with the wall, the edges.

48:23 They fall down because it's like I think a wall is actually better than the angle And there's a warning track I'm just trying to eliminate all the factors Now you have to go underhooks, you have to de-paf, I was on this television show called News Radio. Like you're going to watch people fight in a cage and I'm like that was one of the challenges that Horton had and a lot

50:59 He must be happy now watching it, right? this huge. Boy, they should have cut him in. I don't know, everybody thought I was like, because it was so eye-opening. And then whoop, take down again. And he got him in side control Remco Parduj took him down elbows boom boom boom and then stopped he stopped He was a big dude. So I end up on his back and that's when I choke him. Such a strange time

55:11 where you see these guys, like Alex Paheda, So it's a question of who have the best strategy. All it takes is one shot from that guy. who knows Jiu-Jitsu, you know? And we haven't seen that yet. But he trains a lot of wrestler, a really good at takedowns, who knows Jiu-Jitsu, you know, Yeah, and Glover says he's like very good He was so good when he was younger guys that weren't in the UFC, Glover was the number one guy that everybody talked about.

57:27 you know really is You know, Cyril Ghosn and Cedric Doumbay who fights for PFL, who's an elite kickboxer. Very religious, very disciplined, very focused. This side of the world. Yeah But the guy who's 18, who's above and beyond everybody else in the gym that guy if he can maintain that Training, I never really party. there's no hanging out with the kids.

1:01:19 So you cannot hang around with the kids and babysit them, the kids are little, they're endurance endurance was before the strength and strength, but a lot of endurance. Endurance was before the strength. You have to have endurance to last One day, seven hours later, I told him, stop. I was like, sure, let's do it. It was not the distance. We swim, I swim about maybe a dozen times.

1:04:22 So I went to a pool a pool swimming a nice warm pool All day, all day, left like three o'clock, Yeah. 15 minutes rest for two, 15. on the uh UFC five we did it one round of 30 minutes What about other organized remember when Marilla Bustamante fought Tom Erickson? arm barred him. Remember? Broke his arm. And all those guys went to Brazil to fight in

1:07:34 It's crazy when you think about it how much the sport has changed and how many just, I They had to somebody come over here, send it, they had to somebody come Jiu Jitsu black belt match we had ever seen. Oh my God, and watching those guys go at it in their prime. It's like you get to see that level and you get a watch a tape if to get Hickson to come over?

1:10:06 when you were winning the UFC, I don't think it was just physique. It was just body weight. Crazy Yes, and he used to win the open weight divisions There's never been anything like it in all of combat sports has never been anything even remotely close I mean, when you heard the name Racy, everybody's like, oh shit. Yeah, yeah. When you watch Jiu Jitsu now,

1:13:30 We met up with a friend of ours, Derek. And the guy's a beast, man. there's no way I'm gonna take because it will be believable there's no way I can That's funny. That's what my family did you say you're good I I say I'm good, there's only one way to find out. I was like, really? It's just all technique and movement and understanding. To be able to pull such a thing, it's not easy. No, well that's what guys do when

1:16:56 Who is it? Like you go to Abu Dhabi and you watch the level. It's just so they've been doing these little kids John Donahue talks about kaizen. In a year, you add that times 52, 52 weeks, That's all. If you're not getting better, you're getting worse. And he said, and discipline is doing things Even when you're losing, it's fun. How did you get into that?

1:20:04 and the challenge, I didn't know what I was doing. Yeah, he's the fucking man. it's the pulling is 90 pounds. in the bow hunting community where they said, you don't need 90 pounds. Have all this muscle why not use it yep? It's gonna go through everything. I do a lot of rows a lot of chin-ups Yep. He knows how to push you to, yeah. Like fast, super accurate, perfect technique, you know,

1:23:29 as opposed to the United States. Yeah, they post a picture of somebody was eating some sushi and somebody posted a picture in a You all eat meat, give me a hard time. Yeah, that's the thing. You could but I mean how many of them you're gonna get like one day they shot 250 of them or five you see we go back get the best ones yeah we cut it up and take the meat

1:26:29 You went and got it, you went hunting. I come back home empty handed. He took me hunting in Montana, and I was in really good shape and I was like, you know, I do jiu-jitsu every day Got the elk loaded up, took it back to the house. We are taking the skin off, so this the other friends like hey do you have a hospital nearby he's like Oh my god. Put four staples on my finger.

1:29:56 He just pick up the pliers and start to pull the staples off. Can see myself getting arrested if I was in California It's like, dude, it's my right to knock your teeth out. and then in the mountains in an hour. Emboldened a lot of really stupid people to act like idiots, you know, and Everybody's different location the state's growing number of unhoused people.

1:33:05 I used to joke with people and say, Like, what is the fucking point? defend yourself in your own home? Like, It's insane because they're hiring the most insane district attorneys and they're making ideology and they just believe that this is the only way to think and behave and until More power? It's not even necessarily more power. I mean the real money? You see it's

1:35:35 It's like so people doing all these protests And other girls would come over and give her looks Yeah. Yeah. There's just certain teachers that just clean, everyone's safe, there's less crime, less violence, more jobs. That's great. Why What's the purpose? supporting people with very ridiculous ideologies and then making sure that those people with ridiculous ideologies

1:39:20 Won't be the goal for me to make you have no students. You see it's like I want you to go because if you grow I grow right but then it's like on the today. It's like they're trapped in this way of thinking and they don't think People don't work hard. There's no examples of communism working anywhere where it's for the betterment of everybody I can see that now. People try to push you up now instead but back then when I won it

1:42:40 But there's still quite a few people in America that still believe that. Obviously people being oppressed is terrible, but all financial success is not oppression. That's ridiculous. Like if you have a school, like for example, if you have a jujitsu gym, if you have a and everybody's getting better, and the level is high, There's nothing oppressive.

1:44:46 and oppressing people that's ridiculous that's just a foolhardy way of looking I haven't had a school. we've got a place, a location already, boof, that's gonna be big, right away. I mean, if I have that first day, you'll be successful. And the location is awesome. Boy, a hoist Gracie school in Florida, that's gonna be big right away. I mean, every first day you'll be full.

1:46:47 Do you wanna give the full details? Five minutes from the beach. No Those are pets. He surfs a lot. stomach full so Hey, the bear is hunting you too. you using bow or rifle? This one was rifle I haven't done a bear bow hunting yet because that's a Ten, yeah, twenty. I haven't found one yet, yeah. Oh, man. It's kind of like the swim. We saw some elk last year, about 89 yards, but I was like, nah.

1:51:44 brown belt in bow hunting. I'm not a black belt. I'm a a high level purple belt brown belt in bow hunting I'm not and over and over again, where it's ingrained in my head so that when I'm drawing on an When they say shooter's ready, I look away. was less deal hunt willa for day like four days hunting the elk man. Mechanical or is it a fixed broadhead?

1:55:05 Oh nice. Even if I don't hunt, if I don't catch, I tell the guys when they take me out they sometimes I feel the under pressure But then when I eat, it's like, I got this. We carried it over the mountain, I took them out and the local guys would teach them The stabbing the hog is wild. Okay, so I'm over there, I'm stabbing the hog You're my backup, guys.

1:57:45 The best meat in terms of like the healthiness of it, At least you should know gun safety. You should understand what the gun can do. Yes. So they The laws in Brazil are very different, right? .380, the handgun. So you can buy 9mm,.45, nothing above that. It's very hard, man. Jesus Christ. They're starting to hand out concealed carry permits to people in Los Angeles again

2:00:39 It's almost like it's designed to destroy society like if you wanted to destroy society, that's how you would do it. Leave America, where would you go? It's like it would be it's tough of do understand that this is a special place we're very fortunate to be here. That's why I defended them pro police, pro army. You gotta be Joe Rogan to get his bow and be Rambo out there shooting bows at nine yards,

2:03:09 and it was great running into you at the UFC. Fuck yeah, I will come, I will come.