Joe Rogan Experience #10159 — Quinton "Rampage" Jackson Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. So tell me about your drink. Theanine, okay good for the brain I'm sure in Thailand. Why you call it cocktail though? They're just suggest no no they just have alcohol and they call them like get your dick hard oh Viagra falls but there's no it don't bother me. Yeah, you saw that, in King of the Caves? I did. You know I was a wrestler. I was like I'm just gonna take this guy down. It was a two weeks notice fight. Oh wow

3:09 Yeah, he could wrestle and he could kickbox. he became like the president of WFA, left pride right when they was going down mmm when the UFC bought pride they cop came over but it was the whole thing was all fucked up you know it was run by and I just see these guys walk around And then after a while I asked somebody like, Fucking saw your finger off.

5:23 he said, hon, your son needs this and he it was like a gold samurai helmet Yeah, but he was a cool dude. I would think. It's a crazy culture. you know, see somebody. I was trying to be good good So I ain't fucked none. I ain't fucked none this time the first time going to Japan. I ain't fucked nut And everybody like, so many people walking on the street,

7:23 and he was riding a bike, and he was looking at me, and he wasn't paying attention to where he was going, and he fucking smacked the other side of the street recognized me, but he wasn't sure he was riding a bike He was looking at me No, I heard that the ones that they do have they come from Osaka not Tokyo. Oh then I made a joke about her dad and she's,

8:43 You didn't know that? They need me. and how many of them would have grandchildren. I don't understand. Jamie, see if you can find something on Japan's dwindling population. and you marry a Japanese woman, birth rate declining and population decline. Interesting. Yeah, it's cheap too. Oh, so you be hanging around much of those motherfuckers. Yeah, but I don't fuck up. I like my pinkies

12:54 Dude that is to this day the greatest slam in the history of this board and a lesson for everybody that hangs on to a triangle because you threw him over the top of your head Oh shit, all these years I thought he was holding, and slammed down, holy shit, butted him. That's what knocked him out. But he was already knocked out. His head bounced because he was kicking the shit out of my leg.

15:20 I was acting like it didn't hurt. These dudes are staying in front of each other just teeing off leg kicks. That's dangerous. Oh, it's horrible They're standing in front of each other. I feel like you should be able to do anything, but I wouldn't do it The last one he tapped out. I saw the karate comeback with Basri. because that one was a bad one. Switch kick. Yeah, he was out for a while, of times now. It's like he might not want to do this anymore because that was a bad one.

17:35 I mean, I'd always wondered when someone It's so crazy the way he does it. We way he sets it up. He right kicks, boom! He should go back now? if you just do it sensibly, not crazy, That era, when he was on a tear, because I tried that shit after I got beat by John Jones. Some guys got pulled from fights They, well, Ensign Inouye told me for anything that would actually help you fight.

20:51 when I was fighting over there. Like when the pre-USADA and post-USADA days are so interesting. That's nonsense that is nonsense like all the benefits are still there and all the stuff is out of your system, bro he was just, there was no chin. Bro, when he fought Brock Lesnar, I would like to see him Miniscule levels that it didn't make sense. He don't look he don't look like somebody does steroids. Yeah. No, no, he doesn't

23:56 to do that thing on steroids than it is Right, it's different. It would only make it interesting. Yeah, let those guys juice. you know, if you're just jobbing the tests, For me, I felt like it was the most obvious For sure. For sure. because I was never afraid of him. I just walk on the elevator, And they was talking shit in Portuguese Were you there when he had that fight with Charles Crazy Horse Bennett in the back room?

27:04 He was fun. I remember I got drunk with Crazy Horse was a wild dude. That dude was crazy. He was fun. I think it was a K-1 fight in Los Angeles. I wasn't there. I don't think I was there. Just me and him got fucked up the entire show that guy's crazy. He had fun. He's funny, man But you know I was doing it for fun. So you and him versus somebody else?

28:38 Yeah, it was fun. Who else fuck? Akak a Japanese how do you say his name? but he can fuck people up. So Hoyce beat Sakuraba, but then tested positive. Didn't Christian Marcelo I think there is video footage of it. I'm pretty sure this footage. There's definitely footage of Marcelo Crazy horse he beat him he lost same card with crazy horse any beat him

32:26 asleep he put a lot of people to sleep compact power too yeah he never went to He just had crazy power, and he was just wild. Anybody that stood in front of that dude went night night. You're you are always a very strong light heavyweight, and you had very good wrestling skills But this is a documentary about crazy horse, but is it behind the scenes it shows like a picture of them

35:08 And there's Vandalee. and crazy horse. But what was his corner man, who was with them? I think they probably thought they could keep talking shit before getting hit, and Crazy Horse was. Probably something like that. I probably would've tried until he started I'd never seen that kick before. What the fuck is this? There's no tell at all. Well I knew about him before because I watched kickboxing

37:27 knocks everybody out with I mean that's the one he knocked Jamal Hill out with Like that's what boxers do, I don't understand it. find his openings. And they said, hey, do you wanna defend It just got a lot of power on that hook. I mean, he was done. Also, that guy, you had history with that guy. But I wouldn't have gave him those extras, I was like, I was in the zone.

40:17 I didn't have any of those feelings. Whoa. He was three years old and just overnight I was a dad. I always drank socially but then I started craving alcohol. and I heard a voice said, do you know this man? And I went to go wake my son up. But he said he was dreaming. Yeah, crazy, true story. your soul is mine. He thought it was the devil talking to you.

43:11 being born again what Christians say. I had to piss and I was over my friend house. It was really dark. I told you I was scared. I couldn't sleep in my room. Me and my son sleep on the floor in my In Jesus' name, I love you, amen. the second fight. it just changed me right away. I'm Christian now, I can't be thinking like that. before a fucking championship fight.

45:13 Yeah, I never did and you were training while you were fasting. Yeah, how bad was that? And I tried to cop it up to me faster. Not before a fight, yeah. Do you eat a lot of carbohydrates? Mm-hmm. and party and stuff like that, you know, go out drinking I said, you on that shit? How often a week this motherfucker training like six seven days a week. So he does two two hours of cardio every day

47:37 He's the strongest man I ever fucking met. So now I just, I don't know if it's like a carnivore diet, Pasta that kind of shit rice. Yeah, and then if you can cut all that out and just eat meat and vegetables Yeah. They don't give a fuck the same thing is why they over prescribe medications the same thing why they send us off to war sugar is good for you and saturated fats are bad for you.

50:02 reviewed the scientific literature and set the review's objective. Makes sense. Margarine is good for you. Margarine is fucking terrible for you you I can't believe it's not butter bitch I can believe it doesn't taste anything like antiperspirant, that's not true? I'm a little moment my son my son is a hippie and he tried to get me in all this shit

52:30 That's the healthy stuff, but he likes the mushrooms He's a vegetarian. against each other in November. Wasn't it before that? but the guys that put it on, I'm like, man, you brought these motherfuckers to me. He talks a good game. Oh really? Yeah. Because they'll have an event with grappling, Rod Tang. There's not a fucking person in the world and get hit by that guy

55:45 My god, what weight class is that? I met him for the first time in Saudi Arabia, Like how the fuck do you weigh 85? What's the weight class now in the UFC? What's the it weight class when I was there was 205? You know it's not gonna get in your face, right? Yeah, yeah, don't put tape. I don't understand. I think he wants to be like a samurai You don't fight a guy like Alex with your hands that low

58:10 in front of you. He also knows it only takes one shot with him. he hits you, it's too scary. He was weighing in at 85 and then fighting at 225. I think that's what fucked me up with my health. Yeah, I remember when he fought Roy Jones. cutting all that weight and then putting it back on. Yeah, he's big. Yeah, they just eat like crazy. Isn't it crazy how quick it gets back on you?

1:00:48 That happens to a lot of fighters, That's my first time ever getting knocked out and I didn't go all the way unconscious And then after that, I was gunshot all the way up to, Yeah, I met him at the UFC once before. Remember that fight with Pat Berry? and a lot of people could have stopped that fight and he went down a couple of There it is, there's the one right hand that drops him.

1:03:06 I can't remember, but I was watching that fight. He hit him with one, stung him, and then Oh my God. and then this one, boom. He kicked him in the body and his body is like his shin is like halfway into his body. It's a horrible picture the first time I met crow cup was um and I was on the ground like stretching, You know, I guess K-1 didn't know anything about me

1:05:48 He's a very cool guy. bah, just explode on you. and that's what made him so scary. He was a wild dude, man. I wish they woulda got close. And I guess the UFC was willing to give him a lot of money, They were worried about how the negotiations went south. What was wrong because I got mixed I knows with um You something wrong with your your T your c3 or t3 whatever fuck he said, but you don't have a um

1:08:52 oh, you gotta carb up before you fight. That's what you thought about pulling out It's the hardest I ever trained, We throwing 100 pound medicine balls at each other. You know how small that guy is? Yeah, great wrestler. they said, oh, you gotta be on this mess They said it's not enough data yet, in the body a bunch of times. Yeah. it didn't look normal.

1:12:20 This was after I fought Marvin or before it? Ninja really yeah the shootbox guy that was sparring so hard When he fought Anderson for the title, so look at this. Do you think it's mental? But one of the problems is the tissue, the connective tissue, Help that because I believe in stem cells. I do too. Yeah, I know you go to that bioxcellerator place

1:14:57 Your football is way worse. I never heard of this shit till recently. where he went crazy? I'm just not hearing about this shit now though. Yeah, you cover rolls. Well, I apologize to you too. I don't even mean to hurt your feelings. Ever since social media. but people in the UFC, and if you want to take somebody down, Why I just felt like he was a boring fighter and I got tired of fighting wrestlers

1:18:00 and it was back of my head, I was like, Yeah. and I started training. that were around in the early days that are elite fighters. Wrestling or kickboxing or jiu-jitsu. Carl was like one of the best Judo guys And he was like a judo gold medalist or some shit. There's always like hoisting bodies to the air He's a kick-off three of our assets taking turns and we think Randy Couture. He used to kick all three of our asses,

1:20:37 Yeah, you know. Yeah, and they get that weird. Yeah curls up. That was how his leg looked I guess they can't bring it back. all the injuries that the older guys have had. I'm like damn since you guys not getting your teammates here, So I'm wrestling one of my teammates, then they went to D1 schools, right? he was the worst wrestler there. They never got me MRI'd, they just threw me away.

1:23:52 partial tear and the doctor told me, no you don't want to fight because you can rip it on my right knee too, I used to corner him one time, and he was fighting, Crazy. I think we should get doctors like them. You know, cause they got that there? So if they know they're going to fight in Vegas, they'll come to Vegas and bring their Yeah, all the UFC athletes can go train there. They have nutrition. They feed you. Yeah for free. Oh, yeah, they'll get you set you up with meals

1:26:31 And say what you want. Like you see what happens with these other organizations At the time Pride way before the UFC could ever do this Pride was selling out well newspapers don't really exist anymore, ESPN, though. They love some dude who's just fucking everybody up. So you see events from Japan now. Those guys will go somewhere and there's everyone has a name, you know right now the only way an organization could benefit

1:29:11 He's huge and he can strike. and they start throwing money away, maybe. won that fight too but you know if they're setting up that usik fight they Like who the fuck is this guy? And then when he knocked out Stipe, good lord. That motherfucker's twice my size. Danny was dismissing it. With John Jones versus Francis Wow, that would be huge John, as good as he is, has never been

1:32:45 Yeah. Does a lot of that. that can't hurled yes Trevor Whitman okay yeah but they didn't go with them Does it show the Onyx? Like that's not even me making a fist, The UFC gloves, the way they are right now. Why don't they cover the fingers? But why? But if you have it covered up at least it would be different Yeah, I got poked in the eye and training camp trying to train that shit

1:36:25 All that oblique kick, fuck that shit. It is a technique. Bukakis was out for like a solid year after that. I took my knee braces off. And he was like, come on over here with me. I laid it on thick on, he felt, you know what I'm talking about? I laid it on thick and he felt bad and for me that was good enough. This is this is just a sport. I'm not trying fucking I'm trying to knock you out and stuff like that

1:38:36 He does it everywhere. It's not good for business. but you just can't side kick it. Like you allow to elbow somebody, like say if a person is standing orthodox so I didn't know you could kick like that. I think he did move tight with it. and bounced off the cage, to this day, They could be themselves, In my mind, I was the best in the fucking universe.

1:41:40 it's just my alter ego or something. That's when I knew it was like, Yeah, and he was on the next level too. They just always say oh there you go. he said he knows people that's really good in the gym, so they put themselves in bad positions all the time. Yeah, and I wouldn't tell my sparring partner Sakuraba got me. for sure because they can secure chokes from places that you just can't get to.

1:44:19 That was the hardest motherfucking training camp. In his prime, Leota Machida was a beast, man. when he brought his karate guys. I think, cause it was his. That was a black belt in jujitsu and he had this He goes, he's Bangkok ready. Don't listen to this guy, man. Yeah, it's just fucking giant difference man when someone's setting something up There's dudes that they get in front of you

1:47:38 You're gonna be good at everything but guys think that which is like one of things It's just training and then once you fought you fought great and they just always were limited. Ground game was like mayhem's We talked on the phone. this is next level next level very high level very high level but you know he But he was still Sakuraba. This is not an old Sakuraba. I mean he had his legs taped up like a mummy by then. Yeah. I saw Sakuraba a couple weeks ago in Japan.

1:50:55 Jason was so good on the ground, Gives a peace side to the fucking camera soccer Robert is a fucking chain smoker? I heard They're crazy crazy, bro. How I don't know how he how I don't know how he has a the fucking cardio maybe like a year or two after I fought him. Yeah. if Rampage loses this fight, I'm gonna retire. watched it I think I lost two rounds and I won three and I lost my belt I'd have

1:54:26 So you said that Ninja got hurt in training? Yeah. And Vandalei KO him, and took the puppy. You only have so many holes you can punch in that card, You should take a long time off. I mean, I'm sure he's probably training, thought Max was outgunned. he was past his prime, and then Max just puts on Oh. No, no he lost a decision. He was the only guy to survive Go to Max Holloway's career record. Did he beat Conor? No.

1:56:56 Oh, that's right. Wow. That kid was 20 years old at that time. Twice, Ortega, fucking crazy. And then he fought Dustin again at lightweight. He tried to fight oh shit, we forgot, we forgot. in MMA right now? but damn his takedown defense is fucking good He's a star You know, I like funny shit, man. and he walked over towards I mean he was battering him and Marlon is the best guy who never won a title in the UFC. He was so good

2:00:56 He got him in the guillotine But in the second fight cheeto didn't have a chance. Cheeto's a beast. He's a beast He's just moving. He said he kicked himself after that. Just jacked big muscles strongest shit in his back control is better than anybody's man But I want to see Sean O'Malley versus Corey Sanhagen. You gotta go to that. I got you you got me. I got you for that. Let's go

2:04:42 But it was it was the hardest decision of my life. You know, who fucking knows? that's the only thing that saved me, To that project even when John John Singleton was attached to it They're bullshit. several like relationships friendships when I lose it the mushrooms, it changed. He keeps calling you a pie. Yeah, who calls people pies some room that guy he's fun, bro He he posted he put my my face. Yeah, he put my face over fat women's bodies

2:07:35 He's a fucking troll man. Right his brother stopped Channing. I think oh did these two ever they didn't know so he sits down while he's eating He showed up everywhere. Lennox Lewis had a great showing too. Hell yeah. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I'll fight him. talking about making that, is Lennox working out at all? Like, okay, Mike looks good. I think Lennox is like 58.

2:11:15 He shouldn't be fighting, You should be able to do whatever they say, yeah, he doesn't have brain problems, He's done some sprints and stuff and people look at it is just his body mechanics. But then again, he's doing stem cells, peptides. Indisputed champion rather as significant as Lewis. He laughs Why yeah, cuz if you get hurt bad at 58 you don't really recover

2:14:56 No, no, because if Evander could, I mean, he wasn't necessarily a boxer, I think he called it SAFTA. And see if you can find that. And so this was 96-ish, somewhere around there. Yeah, so he stormed across the the fucking ring and just teed off on that dude That was like a murder. Look I just witnessed a murder basically did I mean he could have kept going and he would have been dead

2:18:11 Bro the kid has crazy hand speed I Remember when he fought ventilate that's when he came out radar. I was like more shoes and just went apparently he was so scared of So we should do a fucking reality show with the fucking kids. Well how about AJ McKee? Yeah. AJ McKee is good man. Next level bro. He's very good. They didn't want to let him go, bro. They didn't want to let him go. I told his desk,

2:20:25 But he's 37 in the UFC. and people come ask me for a picture, It's unfortunate. or someone who wins in the UFC. How old is he? One of them they're gonna do overseas is Bellator Yeah. but his dad said that AJ is really successful Like people don't even know my Michael Chandler fought Eddie Alvarez in some of the craziest fights in Bellator What what like the USC do a free fight? How many million views you think that's a good question?

2:23:45 from Saudi Arabia where Bobby Knuckles Robert Whitaker when he just fought and won that's I think they were losing money hand over fist. I would imagine the only way, I mean, it's one thing because it's a good promotional I don't tell my watchers when they had their Bellator versus PFL. round, it's two points. Third pound's one point. It's like points. Bro, I never watched it. The only time I watched it was when they had

2:25:20 He's the guy that lost to Joaquin Buckley But input gets agony and him had a war and like him won a lot of that fight. It was a good fight It's like every time you see him fight, What's that? He's got a very small camp in Detroit. You know, it's a very small camp. It's not a big gym It's not like he's not a TT year the way he's growing. Yeah, yeah.

2:29:01 People thought before he fought Justin Gagey that it was over. And Maybe it was Vanity, I can't remember who beat me after that. Did you talk to someone? Oh, the Stephen King book? I got this scar on my lip, whatever side it is. You were just in the moment. That changed my fucking life. and then you get out in the real world People get institutionalized too.

2:32:06 name was Jerome Jackson. He got the same last name as me because he used to, when I used he put on my mind to tell you something. Some guys that live across the street from me Eight years old, you were fucking? Yeah, true story, man. your mama can just get you out. So that's the environment I was in. He said, no, they rape them, they fuck them. I was like, damn, you know, I used to get jumped a lot,

2:34:23 you wanna get off that path. And then I was thinking, a lot of my friends I just changed my whole life from that one conversation. Yeah, for a couple days. and the police saw me. I couldn't lie my way out of it. That's just like wanting to get out. because it changed my life. So I didn't wanna lose my temper, because I didn't know if I was gonna to get out of there and that door got in my fucking way. So I didn't want to lose my temper

2:36:19 Long as nobody don't punch me out of like violence but I'm scared because I feel like I'm gonna go hog wild and lose my cardio. he's tall, his stand up is fucking good. My old ass in there with him. So right now, are you training at all? Are you training? Yeah, I started running. I was waiting to spar his ass back. I said I'm gonna knock this motherfucker out So right now are you training at all? Yeah. Yeah, I'm training. I've been sparring and moving around

2:38:07 Everybody's momma got a fucking podcast Your Jackson podcast, that's a great podcast. and I was like, man, I don't have the drive If someone's got a good personality, But how long is shit gonna last? You started, how long ago you started? What made you start your podcast? And when I first did it, they were on the regular radio. would just talk shit.

2:40:21 I was like, at least it'd be fun. I didn't go on other podcasts During COVID, I heard people complaining by the medical establishment. They kept saying I was taking horse deworming. I look fine. That's the only reason why I made that video if I didn't have shows that I had to cancel But what they didn't know back then, I'm gonna push it and then the next day I said, all right,

2:43:00 like a while ago, a little bit before And so she told me about it. And my son caught COVID, I never caught COVID, So it may just make sense that it would stop it in the human body too. But do you think your body get used to it? And then the next couple times it took away, because that's what was profitable. 55 year old man took it and he's fine quick

2:45:53 and they should be listening to doctors? They're liars. They're liars and they're on TV. The TV is filled with liars. I don't even watch the news no more fucking more And I'm gonna be 100 right now. Fuck that. So people started investigating. He's got a big pot belly. But he's a computer guy. Why is he even on television talking about it? as we'd hoped it didn't stop transmission like oh oh now you tell us

2:48:58 immunity. And so then you have all these new strains. Over time it makes the virus weaker. They banned them from being on social media. And then when it's time to use it again, Whenever there's so much money involved in one thing, like a vaccine or any kind of medicine, supposed to be biased and bought and paid for. But that's the problem with today. Whenever

2:50:30 like what if I was in that situation, would I sell out? I'll lie. life out there is almost zero. I think it is zero. I think for sure there's other life drugs, everyone's saying just say no to drugs while they're on drugs. probably have visited but I also don't believe the government so when the Your boy Eddie Bravo, he knows some shit, and I watch him explain stuff, I'm like.

2:53:01 and things about what they've done before, Cause they come from the other side of the ice wall. We know how planets are formed. going into the water. Also if I was from another planet and I wanted to come here It makes boats sink. Yeah, but I still think there's probably something in there They don't know if it's China's or Russia's So I feel like if the military has a lot of stuff

2:56:19 haaah. Yeah, fuck that we talked about like they do SpaceX flights Would you like to go? No. I'd be scared as fuck. Fuck that. I'd be scared as fuck. Fuck that. If you're up in the jet or in the rocket Dying so just so I can get a couple hundred miles above the surface and look down because that's all you can get when they tried to go see the Titanic?

2:57:50 But the moment before that thing fucking imploded, They probably hyperventilated went into shock coming in was on there. I don't know things with man crafts and then they pulled them up with some kind of drone. The fatal dive was the vessel's 14th trip that wound up leaving the corporation, Bottom of the ocean is one of them. I'm not interested in that.

2:59:56 And he's like, what happened? We'll watch this and we'll end this podcast show the one where the guy hits the bridge in the squirrel suit Oh yeah, yeah. That's your ass I'ma bring me somebody. It's gonna be a banging car. What's up? What's easy? They got fucking they worth billions now. So yeah throwing that money. Yeah So, it's Jackson Podcasts on YouTube,

3:02:22 It's very good. Not yet. Bye, everybody.