Joe Rogan Experience #10160 — Francis Ngannou Transcript

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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. A lot of things happen. That's why I like, I always about writing my book just there living the dream. You know, get this big moment, get that fight that I've Pete Incredible. who doesn't have any professional boxing matches? do mistake something, you know, not have been doing boxing. I'm not a boxer, but still I'm a fighter. And even if I wasn't

3:09 Maybe not as much, maybe not equal chance, but I still do have a chance. But you Well by the time you find out that he has stone in the hand, you are in the ground. in that fight because every time that I realized that every time that I switched of all time? Sometimes you're in the cage. You're used to the cage to lean on that cage And then you're thinking like,

6:01 So by every round, you have to think about like, That was one of your best rounds. the Superman punch or the stuff. Did you do anything like that replicated in actual professional boxing match? out what's happened. fight itself he was over three months because I know that he is imagine if you had just gone into professional boxing grateful because regardless of the fact that I didn't start 10 years earlier, I

10:53 point of my life yeah what was the experience like when it was all over I wasn't expecting to win. that they signed the fight, for you, right? Oh, I mean, he's... the way he sells it. He kept talking about how big your dick must be. Oh, I do. And I think he always, he always, I mean, he was entertaining, Was that if you beat him? I think it's a matter of timing.

15:55 like four months of training camp for the Tyson Fury fight, I had this feeling, you And I was feeling good, you know, even a little lighter. in the five week, whether it's media, we get to the fight day Friday we see the email pick up time I mean this one It's 10.45. usually maybe like four five hours yeah like maybe five to six hours and then you get

19:39 We leave the locker room at 3.30. know what was happening. Right. It was after after everything that I'm like they did quite some stuff that wasn't fair wish on the Tyson fight was perfect As Tyson Fury did not have boxing tape. They stood in your way. So you think it's the organization itself that they set everything up in his favor? Have you had a chance to go back and watch the Anthony Joshua fight? Yeah, what I mean I didn't yes, I watched it

24:14 I'm like, damn, what? I kept going and I remember being in my corner and Dewi was like, don't go on South Pole, remember exactly what's happened until we get to this so I remember being there Maybe it's the fact that I can, I get there at that time. said I think I need we have to do like within 12 hours to do like blood or to like, Gervonta Davis, when he fought Ryan Garcia, he made him rehydrate, he

28:05 fighter to agree to that's not in their best interest and then there's things Even my sparring partner was But really he wears guys out. He beats guys up and then takes them out later like the Everything right in preparation in preparation we did everything right you we did everything and everybody was professional. to get more experience? and get to the championship.

32:17 that, if there was another fight after that. And then after the Tyson-Shuri fight, the next fight So I wasn't really on something. Yeah, a couple boxing fights. Well, one of the things that has been discussed that apparently the UFC might be open to, And you were the most compelling fight in the heavyweight division, for sure, for John Jones. That's the guy that knocked out Ryan Bader. Yeah, he's dangerous. He's legit

35:50 their Abu Dhabi card is? I believe, I want to say, somewhere around the end of Yeah. Do you know who else would be on that card with you? They're doing like sprints on the treadmill and they run to the heavy bag And just great technique, but the cardio was crazy. Yeah. Because that was dangerous. It shouldn't be there and you know things just let me get it out of my toe. Yeah, it shouldn't be there. Let me get this out of my toe.

39:18 that stuck in their shoe and it falls out of their shoe and it sticks in his toe. instructed to continue fighting. wrong. Maybe that's just what the rules state you have to do when a fighter says you have to stop something for a second And you know, he's got a lot of years on the clock too. He is a superstar. He is a superstar. The guy filled up the best arena in Paris. Yes, in France he's a superstar. Yeah. I mean, and that could translate 100% to the United

42:30 The guy brought a mattress. Yes, and the thing about him is that every fight starts standing up. Yeah. Let's see how you're gonna that, they become a trouble. You can't take him down anymore. Exactly. And then you, you Brazil and everybody would talk. Yeah, Glover was like one of those guys before that won a title at 44, at 43? Yeah, yeah. I want to say he's young.

46:04 Mm-hmm. What the fuck are they doing? It's like having a win bonus or something. I don't like win bonuses either. I hate win What benefits from that? it's good for the promotion. I think it's unfair. I don't think it makes any sense. at least you should get your full pay on that fight. Yes. But that won't, the loss Doesn't it's not fair for the fighters fighters only have if they're really lucky

49:37 Yeah. And most people, it's not like there is an age to start. Yeah, I was 27. if there's a bad judge and you miss half your paycheck. Does the PFL do win bonuses too? I train, I get prepared for the fight, I come, I give it, like the PFR and the Bellator now. And then now they're having like a PFR, regional PFR, 2025 you're the PFL Africa chairman. I'm like which extent because I don't want that

53:28 You know, it's peaceful. You say, oh, I this or that, bro, Get back to my life. As they say I want to leave the sport before the sport leaves me. Smart. Yeah, so I'm thinking in my average like 41. And so the next fight will be MMA definitely or maybe maybe in And then take one at a time, you know? I think is a sign is a call out yeah, well, that's intelligent, that's smart. That's the way you phrased it, I like the way you phrased it.

56:21 you need to wanna be there. Definitely. He's the opponent that can make that fight happen. At least now, they could sign some more top flight heavyweights. Yeah. Yeah Well it sounds like you already made a good amount of money. Is boxing more unique to you because it's a new challenge? don't know you have to figure out right you know instead of it being

1:01:03 Right, right, right. Other than that, I have a trip, which is my strength and conditioning coach, so I put I get Jeremiah Milton as well Before Andy Ruiz fought Anthony Jojo, would you think about him as an elite fighter? Yeah, they haven't got their shot, but they are there. They are present. They are elite. So when it finally went full circle and you became a boxer again, did it feel like, oh,

1:04:15 You know, I ended up having the fight, But your path is incredible, like they don't care about them. There are a lot of people out there with a better story than mine, It's you have to that struggle and have the Joe Rogan experience to tell my own story. Wish they don't have Six times. I made it the seven times. First of all, I think even if when I explain,

1:07:27 opportunity that I can bring back. You know, because when I was there for so many times, and just stay home. How could you not do, think of doing something like that when you have an opportunity and Oh, you do? PremierBet, they joined us to that to build that gym for us. A very big to bring competition around. Because yes, it's good to bring PFL, to bring competition around,

1:10:48 help them, you know, it's like and develop and then we're going to also help like get coaches, experienced coaches that can go and teach and also teach another Talented fighters do you see that are coming out of there that could? They also have a I think is African knockout that Usman Kamaru is part of right But if you have a good organization, you need to build gym, you need to give those fighters

1:14:01 and then maybe provide a fighter for who's going to fight in the promotion over there and then they take those fights and they broadcast them all over the world, So everybody is getting that big stage. do you see yourself after you retire from fighting going into a coaching and mentoring role for Managed to deal with a lot of bullshit. the growth of the sport, basically in Africa.

1:17:46 But bro, they are white people from America work on the field because I know the problem, the roots, the root and the problem there. What and tie every day to run stuff. you've only been fighting for 10 years. Money is like honey. You always attract bees. to the United States, get into the UFC and then in a matter of a few short years become the UFC

1:20:29 access in the gym, which is something that me growing up, I was just dreaming about it. So it's possible. a champion in whatever you do see like doesn't you don't have to be a fighter I use I I can have quite they have somebody that can operate a nice camera, just home. I'm so there's a lot of people like that with filmmaking and with stand-up comedy and writing

1:24:33 But lucky us, we didn't have that chance yet so we took the opportunity. he was the one that opened that door, you know, that gave that opportunity that made the path Right. So you might be a bad guy and kids still wanna be like you. that his kid should be like you. So kids in all these countries, especially if they have phones, they have access to all

1:27:30 the problem. Yeah. Because information is good, but a lot of it's bullshit. A lot of You guys are becoming like Americans now. Instead, you know, a lot of them are just looking That's true. Ha ha ha ha ha. But if he has to like start something and work really hard, he can't stand it. You have to be a worker. Yeah. Yes, that's true. their dishes, their clothes. Like dishwasher for example. I think it is the idea of

1:31:47 I don't want to wash my clothes anymore. done. Like I have a... That's a good point, man. I never thought of it that way. I get in my house and this is something that I still don't understand. So if you just clean them a little bit more, take five minutes, clean it, put it there. It's easier for me than running machine and this, Yeah. But I think. when you are leaving. Because if that brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr educated people are just avoiding work by continuing their education. I know personally people that have done that. They get their PhD, they get grants, they get loans.

1:35:29 a fighter. There's the mentality, there's the ability to focus and to perform You don't like, if you look like the champions of every weight class, every promotion, most fighting. And then you take it for granted because you didn't have to work to get it. But then you run into someone who's talented and has discipline and that's when you get fucked up

1:38:06 you basically start from nothing. Then you have one, then you have two, then you know that you He's gonna get to six and seven. There's these superstars in the gym. Maybe there's something about anxiety, their inability to manage stress. people that you get even in the gym, that you wanna show up. Let me start on the back, right? But some people are there like to prove that, oh, I'm something.

1:41:48 I'm here to learn and grow and I need to work on my weaknesses to make them my they're like, ugh, they're like a beginner. Like there's a gym, there are people that Or you break your arm. Yeah, you don't tap in the what? You go to sleep? Or you break your arm. Or you break your arm? Yeah, if you don't tap in the gym, you're a moron. They always say that when you're in the gym

1:44:06 do that. That's why they call it practice. that's um I'm gonna show you something Jamie this this video scared the fucking Check this out out so this guy that your leg make this sound, like, oh! You know, it's like that those breaks, like especially the shin break. Right? I'm still like, what the hell, why did I do this? How did you get your mind straight? I

1:48:29 So did you make a decision in your mind to go back to having fun again? And then I get in China, have to fight Curtis Blade, So I spend time with myself and I talk to myself a lot. So I get used to just like that. Do people look over there like, Basically, like, leave me alone. like, sometimes I will spend two days in my house without going out. I loved it.

1:52:09 I understand. this your mind is already thinking of something but if you just so sorrow just sorrow yeah if you just They didn't find anything. Because at first they haven't thought about asthma. should go to club tonight and I don't go to club I don't go out like man Now I'm like what's happened? How come he's gone? and I never realized, I have been in the situation that I have seen people losing their kids, mourning maybe, definitely older kids but I'm like man

1:58:01 When you feel like something really hurt inside you, like you can breathe, it's That was it. just stay at home for like months I think I'm becoming an adult and I'm so powerless. pushing me leaving. Like no, I need to do something, I need to take action. I'm like bro let me fight. Let me say I have tried. Let me say I did something. Let's make all this

2:02:04 That one was tough, because you think that they say Yeah. Like that was it. all those little things that you guys have, Yeah. but he's not there anymore partnership with Buddy Amo was in New York. I just arrived in the US at time my Ask me where I came from Like for 30 minutes. I'm like, this is Kobe Bryant. soccer I've been looking for soccer clips for him.

2:08:32 how to build a security around him. Yeah. You've been through a lot in your life, Francis. Yeah. Like my older brother lost two kids. There's nothing anybody could say. Do you have other children? at least whenever I die, I'm going to go see my kid. I'm going to see him. least whenever you get to that point, to think like that. Thank you. Appreciate it.

2:13:42 Motivation. Yeah. Alright.