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Joe Rogan Experience #10161 — Khalil Rountree Jr. Transcript

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0:00 This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. My website, joerogan.com, is powered by Squarespace, of a website or domain. What's happening? Yeah, it's rare. I need more details. This is not what I would expect it being like getting served this They're pretty like Created that thing it's kind of nuts. Yeah, I mean since we're on a topic. This is kind of weird

3:36 It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen which then led me down going in another spiral where it's like apparently unbelievably brutal so hybridization of animals is famous for controversial attempts to create a human I want I want version two because Carl's is amazing expensive clones. Yeah, Carl's yeah, they're very expensive, right? Creepy fucking chew on wires

6:26 Okay. But most likely not correct. it's hard for me to get into like fantasy books and stuff like that, but like YouTube videos, I'll call Eddie Bravo up Too much yeah, especially today. It's just like seems like the world could fucking explode at any moment any minute Dude, what the hell are we living in this it's yeah? It reminds me. I don't know why kind of off-subject but on

9:49 He's funny man. But I mean like that's I guess what brought that up is like yeah process This is closer to the truth an actual understanding the history of how these things are figured out, 100%. And I think China's doing it on purpose. I think it's brilliant. People get run over by trucks like every day Why do I feel like the weight of the world is on my shoulders right now?

12:49 One of the top contenders up and coming. Yeah, I mean while you're depressed. Yeah looking at people that you don't even know this like mild form of anxiety. Oh, that's the worst dude. I don't even know how to take a shit without my I'm like I think I take one hour shits now 100%. That's that's we know you're a degenerate We put your ear pods in when you're taking a shit

15:19 Apple vision Pro would be over because there's just so many cool things Yeah, this is it. This is so crazy You know but like this could be oh like this is years ago you know like these episodes came out years ago how yeah how are Subatomic particles are crazy. The way our body is designed is crazy. The fact that you Significance and significance like when you look at the grand scheme of things, you zoom out, we're tiny, you can't

19:07 Like, I mean, that's pretty damn significant, And I think what we are is like the purveyors of creativity. That we you and I are in right now. Yeah, it'll probably some hybrid form some hybrid form some cyborg form Yes, yes. Now these structures are just theoretical, these Dyson spheres, but they believe through So right here in our galaxy, what is that?

21:25 So this is from May. We just haven't gotten there yet, but we're close. I mean we're seeing how close we're getting with everything You have to have actual it's like if a martial artist like I got this move, bro. Yeah, like try this shit on me rain and the soil, crops are growing. essentially, to create new universes. It's ultimately over hundreds of millions of years

24:32 And eventually the Sun will burn out but as time goes on as our planet gets further and further from the Sun close to the Sun and they're you know people that have explained it to me say, that every solar system eventually has a planet that gets to that spot where it's Well, it's almost like Carl just like Carl. Yeah, it looks very different than a fucking wolf

27:06 Like fish, bass all look like bass. Right. Yeah. Yeah, which is so fun but the thing that created it is the biggest mystery, Probably. Anatomy records that go further than that I mean probably you know maybe the 30s of the 40s like when did they start studying the correcting him on stuff. of brilliant people that don't have any information. Yeah. You know, which is why, like, there's,

30:36 I agree 100% from yeah, yeah, any anybody that's doing things that just like a I think every one of those people if they had the physical capability because obviously some people unfortunately have terrible genetics and they're just never But I know nothing about football. Yes, we are guys that like, you know, they're they're badasses, but there's a difference in being a badass versus a trained fighter

32:53 this guy out and well I had a reporter tell me about him years ago and then I A lot of people that have some really great ways of looking Anything that requires that stuff. It actually fuels things getting done. And anything that has a television right now. I've been traveling traveling so I see like Olympics is on yeah, right, but one thing that I that I've noticed

35:03 athletes it is a giant scam They build this fucking enormous place for it to participate in all the different arenas or yeah They're just ballin Wow yeah, and these are the crazy people that are putting on the Last Supper with transsexuals This place where people are already getting fucked over right the whole olympics is just people getting fucked over

37:16 You know what I mean? Not so much like a show and let some wacky gay dude get a hold of the fucking the reins and he decided to do this They're robbing people. who's gonna win the sprints, It's nuts. And it was probably very, I don't know what the original, like the one where Hitler was Yo, I got a guy coming on tomorrow to actually talk about drugs in the Nazis. No, you're putting me on so much game right now. Oh, put you on this, bro. You're putting me on so much.

39:41 Fuck yeah. 1936 or 38? skateboarding or surfing or something like that. Like in the Jesse Owens days, you know when Muhammad Ali won the gold medal like those guys weren't doing that for money for Ali did it for national pride just like winning the nationals and wrestling. Quick instantly give you all the things all the things the Olympics were often considered controversial because they were held to showcase the Third Reich and Adolf Hitler's theories of Aryan supremacy all jacked up on

43:03 But somewhere along the line it became this fucking enormous business, Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've done studies and it shows that when people fight for money. They don't fight that hard. Yeah, so what? It has to be something wrong with you to understand. Oh, if they explain it to me like, oh, I see your perspective. gender Distinction says they're not transgender. We're talking about what this says they may be intersex

45:33 What does that mean? Okay, at least you don't know. Yeah, it's LGBTQ, yeah. Okay, that means they're transgender Jamie that out sports is a biased website. It's think Out Sports is being honest about this particular thing because there's outrage all or it can be. Also, we're denying sandbagging, right? Right, but they're not being honest about that other one

48:53 So that just means they're juicing up. They're just cyborg, cyborging their way to the thing. Well, it shouldn't be about I don't know what that's I don't know what trick Yeah, trick is getting you so confused by it all that you can't even discuss it Whole story. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, so Was in preparation leading up to that fight I Was I trusted them.

52:40 As soon as I took it, I had to, I mean, I called the UFC and I was like freaked out. Blended supplement that I was not told that I should not take. that's when I immediately alerted the UFC and like hey. list on why they banned it that this was an accident, so I haven't gotten the results back yet, And so, obviously, this is like immediately because I was booked to fight and so

56:26 Oh, yeah. for DHEA for DHEA and But now I don't I don't know what the hell's going on because I'm being held up by May may okay, so here we're in July and so you still don't have an answer yet And so like and you're so close in this so close heated up division heated up division things are moving so many different emotions you know like I do my best to work through them and

1:00:02 You know yeah, and that's I mean that's where I'm headed. Like, I'm so focused on And I know that I have to, you know, like, yeah, I've got to fight Jamal and maybe that'll can Yeah, yeah, and so that who knows what what's gonna happen with that that could take him out for many months Oh God. have anything but my leg is the size of football right now fix it

1:02:53 get a bunch of cough medicine, Benadryl, No knee injuries. No Wow. No, dude That was something that was like doing intentionally the the reason why that's my favorite fight is because from start to finish Where they make this breakthrough and you go boy? He's right there. Yeah, like they're right there Yeah, that makes sense. And rather Bo Hovich and Ankeleia fought to a draw remember that fight

1:06:19 We know everything's precise. It's not just we're not going in there and just laying a bang like Izzy says button pushers. Yeah hopefully, I'm not suspended for that long head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission now Jeff Mullen is it Jeff You know in my mind, I thought it was like some crazy thing, you know, like oh man Yeah, you took DHEA for a couple months. It doesn't mean anything. Yeah, it's not gonna do a fuck

1:09:21 Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, And then of course- Big Holloway fan here. The way that, you know, when people do like the wave Insane the entire arena I was insane getting chills just thinking about it like being in that moment that was sick And I think that's Volkanovsky after you got KO'd by Islam and then a couple months later He fights Ilya and gets knocked unconscious. Yeah, that's Volkonov ski after you got caud caled by Islam and then a couple months later

1:11:12 like dude that's none of my business right it's up to him it's true you know He fought Kevin Randleman and he got KO'd bad real bad, and then he fought again 25 days later He loses a random in and he fights Ken Ahara and then he fights oh Yama And back then those guys weren't they were like the whole thing of That would be cool. Well. It would be cool if there was an organization that was competing with the UFC at that level

1:14:21 Oh and at the time it wasn't live right but like right I had to go buy a DVD from Zia Records or something it's like yeah of course I'm Over but guys from jujitsu came over house. We all watched it like four o'clock in the morning. That's pretty sick been training like a dog I feel good yeah, and I just like it's it's not that serious to me, right?

1:16:17 And I mean it all like it's a hundred and seventy something bucks or whatever to register, right? Yeah, I'll throw my key. I'll compete but Tell you right now. Don't do it. It's not worth it come on. Listen you probably will be fine is it's like scrambles like in scrambles knees blow out yeah you know cuz scrambles in the gym and scrambles in training are different. Yeah in competition competition. Yeah, you're way more

1:19:07 You're right there, dude. No, but here's the thing, like, I would hate to have this conversation with you and you Yeah. Yeah, yeah. but outside of that I mean I I want to be active now like ever since I made the change and became a fighter and all these things and my life's changed of like sliding into the trail and I had two decisions either plow right into her

1:22:19 It's just like it's not this is this feels fucked up bang of my head hit the the the pack snow it was like icy snow I Yeah, but I know I knew I got rocked they're bringing me up to the stage and I'm turning the recorder on on my phone as I'm I'm so nervous. I'd be here. I'm like I want to see some some of Joe Rogan's like comedy shit Saturday 9 o'clock

1:25:53 Yeah, actually after I after all this shit happened one of the first things I did Ronnie Chang invited me out to a show Like come by I'd love to have you and I went and so cool man. So funny. Yeah sure Ron is a good dude, man Damn so now I'm not gonna do jiu-jitsu don't do it tournament. Please don't do it. I wouldn't ski either Bellator has some elite fighters, PFL has some elite fighters's there's guys out there that are really elite that just so

1:28:18 Because I'd seen you fight before and I knew you were good, but there was like something happened Let me just get re tapped in and then I went there and then that's where Mia and I we got married there Like I don't know as it maybe it's like as I get older and just like I guess where I'm at in my life and at middleweight and then Ultimate Fighter light heavyweight season comes up

1:31:06 Hyped because of my ultimate fighter performances. So he starts throwing me on like main cards me, you know, right? It really did I mean that this this trajectory that you're on showed that you're you're on a new level. Yeah, dude for that camp I Went shooting and that changed my perspective because I'm not a guns guy. Oh, it's like shooting in a rain

1:33:00 Learn from a guy who was I'm giving away secrets fuck it so even on the like the Anthony Smith fight like every time I shot the gun, every time I shot the pistol, But then also, not only that, but big, big on shooting, big on self-defense. on my lap and walks away. Yeah, yeah, and you like what's your right hand? I'm not like oh No, I was very intentional with every, every movement, every strike in that fight so far that's

1:37:59 Yeah, but that's me dude every time every fight something different like I And stuff like that. I think like that could potentially have right? Yeah, oh it's pretty yeah, you know you watch someone land something good. It's like that's pretty yeah, you know and I don't I yeah have you thought about going to middleweight? I have. What do you walk around at?

1:40:33 I did fight at 185, but it was it was hell and so now like yeah, I like to eat man I don't like it. I don't I still like okay I'm back up to 225 blah blah where blah, blah, where I'm used to carrying my weight. at the highest level, but for the last two weeks Yeah, you're gonna be the bigger guy who cares like you know what I mean like you're also gonna not be able to take shots

1:43:25 and I told him, you know what I would do? at 225 or 210 or 205. when right before you cut the last pound or two of weight? So I don't I can't I can't give like an educated like I don't have all the facts right now, but from what I've We don't know when you shot us coming or we don't know when the anti-doping is coming weigh us, too The day before he's supposed to fight Israel Adesanya the heavyweight or the middleweight fucking champion

1:46:27 The UFC always does their job, but there can be there can be some type of change made period yeah also more dangerous also kidney problems organs shut down and the Octane CBD. Oh, I have to read the ingredients I knew I heard you talk about that before they should get more money or not I'm I'm grateful whatever for you know what I make but I do think that it'd be a lot nicer to just

1:49:17 I've been the guy testing all of the new gloves, I got poked the last camp actually preparing for Jamal Hill and like it cut the entire There was some negotiation with Trevor, but he wanted more money than they were willing to give apparently was a lot of money So if it's this but if it has that then it's not gonna go in the eye if it's a cover and the cover like you

1:51:41 Yeah, it's not lighter. It's not perfect. Is it light? How much lighter it's? Yeah, it's it's I mean But they look cooler. Yeah, I want to look cool the gold ones are the world are gonna be really cool Probably five years five more years like I don't know how long it took them to change the glove Yeah Remember like the Drew Dober fight and that cut yeah There was a fight before to like some guy like that. I was just like hey, yeah, I brought was just hanging by thread

1:54:45 They kind of keep us in line give us advice what we're doing things that they see but I You know, we don't want you limping right? having so having like another person kind of be able to come in and tell the fighter like dude. It's over. It's over notoriously rough they stop things quicker they they stop weight cuts Cause Max wasn't supposed to be fighting at all.

1:57:24 in Madison Square Garden as well Fight how do you do you think that we as UFC fighters should be able to like You know, this is his decision. But the reality is you go back to the Connor that beat Eddie Alvarez that the Connor it mean that Connor Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I Yeah, don't fight with a broken toe. No, that's crazy like people say toe like whatever

2:01:10 100% it's like I never okay when I started this when I started MMA. I had a dream. I had a dream of And since then I haven't had a real dream, It's gonna be memorable. Yeah, make sure skills have you ever watched by top fight in in glory no when you were talking about Cedric Dumbay yeah I mean I trained with him a You know what I mean big gloves shin guards

2:04:15 And they knew like, oh, this guy's a UFC fighter, Wow. Ties don't necessarily spar hard at all And it's like these seven punch combinations just because it's punching and kicking and you're throwing So he'll have his distance and he'll kind of sometimes won't even really tell me what right I need it to come It's less like boxing is more like focus mitts. Mm-hmm

2:08:36 You can pick up on things. They're like, okay now okay. Yeah, this is this is I can fucking ruin someone But people have different ways of like setting it up or right more effective to to get it Kind of like this more Just to get your leg up So it's kind of like in order to lift your leg, to throw it at a full speed and like Comfortable with lifting my leg and it just be effortless

2:11:54 Like my daily routine so 130 and Probably three to four hours a day stretching Wow yeah Pressing decompressing That's crazy three to four hours three to four hours a day, man Yeah. I'm like so I'm in control here and he's like I can't get my leg up right there We do like a kind of boot camp like circuit thing I mean, I was like whoa, dude We still had to go and burn a thousand calories on the on the assault bike oh no then I hop on the

2:17:17 He's out there all the time. Why yeah, yeah, um that would that would definitely inhibit your rubber guard, but normally you could probably do it Muay Thai concepts and like and like yeah Muay Thai concepts and like methods necessarily like boxing boxing just kind of like MMA boxing. But I mean, I would love to do more boxing. But so it sometimes can put me in a little bit of a bad position.

2:19:40 Right there right there. I hope you know Jeff sorted out give some more content, interact with fans and stuff Let's go to the gym.