Joe Rogan Experience #10163 — John Rallo, Matt Serra & Din Thomas Transcript

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2:08 Protect your neck. Yeah, I'm down for that. There's two Wu Tang songs I always listen to when I'm going to an arena, when I'm doing a show. I like it. We'll pause. Oh, yeah, you waited. Well, I think the goofiest looking one is the tattooed ring. Yeah. That one's goofy. It's This fucking dork. I'm married to dorks. I You can use it like a slingshot, that's great. Yeah, I heard about a dude in

4:37 it's like, you can't, it's just too dangerous. I mean that's good. It's good They try to fucking give you that squeeze. I just feel especially my right hand like I got a fucking bump here from They don't know what to do He is good he's like six eight he KO'd Ryan Bader and real quick right wasn't like Francis is bigger though for sure, but this guy's fucking dangerous man

8:52 His footwork was real, real nice. How many times did Bobby Lashley compete? Bobby Lashley is the only guy I've ever fought in MMA that looked like he could enter a bodybuilding competition the day of the fight. 189 in college. Also, he's 48. I mean, I guess he is. The guys got freak genetics just in looks and also in his build he's been tested a billion times

10:55 I am not going to Juliana Pena this one. Oh my god. By the way, great work with by them. Oh my God. Oh my God. I know he was on this show before. That's crazy. It's like we've just seen him in so many stand-up wars because it's so fucking hard to get people to the ground, right? He stood up quick. Definitely with Craig Jones he'd be good. Yeah, if you're gonna compete against that guy,

13:04 with anybody on the ground. Like he's so strong, he. That's crazy. I mean, it was funny. It was pretty stale, but Brady can hang with anybody There's no chance. He's a real a death sentence almost it can't he came back you can come back, but it's so unnecessary Yeah, but that's also why he's so much fun to watch man because he genuinely didn't give a fuck

14:55 He had Benson in a hundred different submissions and Benson got out all of them. there was only a few a year. right people forgot about Jose all those beginnings Yeah, me too cuz be too and you fought him How many dudes would have tapped? Fight that guy that was that that's missing from him later, I mean, think about it. I seen it in kickboxing and I'm like,

17:40 And it's so spontaneous too, outside of your leg always. insane one touch of death power left hook and then the intelligence to not wind up. It's kind of crazy. It's already been established. Or he could be dealing with Khalil Roundtree how many more strikes would he land too? You don't hear that from that Think about his come up, man. Much less talk about that.

21:39 When you're waiting on reference, and he did a little stuff A guy gets kicked the nuts. I'm't see that. All I was thinking is, so there's so much happens, right? A guy gets kicked the nuts. Two minutes ago, you couldn't even fight. Not me. Oh, you can do Do Not Disturb. You know how to do that? Yeah, here we go. I turned it off. He already got closer.

23:57 Yeah, most of the fight up until this point was fought with Jamal about a foot per past where they are right now Yeah. Yeah. No. But look how close he is now. See how close he is now? Let's see. He might be right. But he also put his hand on the outside of Jamal's hand Dude, he's fucking dangerous. Yeah, I know Now he's all in like now he's like super focused like the Anthony Smith fight you like, oh, yeah, that's a dangerous contender

26:45 Well, I'm just saying like every time you see Kaleel roundtree do interviews he crying and stuff like that Maybe that's what we need in 2024 You guys don't get all emotional, Just do it. For sure. Just do it in front of the world. face off they bite your fingers off pull your dick off dude it was Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, in this show there's nothing happy in this show this show is all about what happens when people have pet chimps and the chimps get to be about five years

29:16 They're not as smart as people but they also they're vindictive and spiteful. They're angry and jealous fighters for 20 years. So these people, these chimpanzees, their whole lives they had seen scientists. It's amazing Don't have any fucking food if you got a candy bar, they'll rip your dick off for that candy bar There's no listening. Do they're fighting fucking two hours these guys like across the state and that was that guy's name tank Murdoch

32:55 Real fighting was back Now this is all Because these cannibal Indians are almost like predators because they got these things It's a great movie. It's a fun horror movie and the fact that it didn't get the attention that deserves like I'll tell you what I tapped out on. No, no, but no, this is, I'm not a prude. Okay, I could deal with some sex scenes and some some freaky shit

36:24 Oh yeah, I know. He's in this guy's asshole right now. He's touching his asshole. It's a human centipede. Is that an oh? Picture this! Picture this! You ever see a human centipede? Let me see that again. That is so crazy. Yeah Figure it out find out who the cunts are kill them show. I agree yeah. I think there was a spin-off with Daryl Dixon I didn't even watch. There's

39:45 Like the guy waking up in the hospital in the walking dead the problem with that scene is So this is stole the whole thing somebody's what came. Well, what came out first? The comic book? Do you know those movies? I think you can find 28 Weeks Later, but 28 Days Later, I don't think you can find. Interesting. I think you have to buy, because I just seen it. That's why I think you can find 28 weeks later, but 28 days later

41:19 Yeah, I just don't know anybody with a DVD player. That's like VHS. I don't have that Oh, what was that movie? Oh, look at this. This guy just got into Game of Thrones like 20 years later. Yeah, I mean. Dude, it's good. and I ended up reading all five books. I don't believe that five books in my life is the Game of Thrones. Honestly, I didn't want to wait to the second season so I got the book and I ended up reading all five

43:48 they this is one of the best zombie movies of all time it is great it's great That's exactly what rabies is. It's Kujo. It is. It is. It's animals that are not, Because if you don't it kills most people. Jesus. What's the function of the disease? It's an old, it's a weird. you know I just say that about Liam Harrison and you know people are making a

46:35 the reach, that's at a disadvantage I'm like a complete different character has he always been like this type of character Thank you. You're the one who pushed me to do this. This is right up my alley. was myself and Ray Longo. Sean Penn. It came out the opening weekend as good same as good fellas it's a heist movie but it's organized crime Fantastic movie phenomenal, but does American gangster count?

50:49 but that's how he was playing, like all coked up. I have no clue. But he definitely said it in an just edit that out of the movie? I have no clue. He said it, everybody's like, Oh, 50%. Body armor they had like fucking big giant machine guns and shit One of the cops shot one of the dudes and then did not call for ambulance did not and and then people were

53:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so these guys were having a shootout with guys walking down the street This it went on for a long time too, and this is back when if something happened they would we interrupt General Hospital Really? city. I was like, really? really he goes cities are so vulnerable. We're so vulnerable aliens but find out who's bringing in the meth who's bringing where's that fucking meth

55:34 I've talked about a thousand times with it. There's a book that we just read So like if you were in the tanks, they gave you the most meth you're at the front of the line But John's like right there. He's also phenomenal in a movie that a lot of people didn't see called shot caller. Oh how he ends up, but he didn't start off like that. And oh man is it a, you know who's in

58:40 Yeah, he had crazy power. Yeah, like if he like if he did bare-knuckle when he was younger Oh, yeah, he's built for it. Yeah, he had hands on him. Yeah, like if he like if he did bare knuckle when he was younger Alexander caught him He was a radio DJ while he was fucking people up. That's how we became friends. At least, you know, as far as they know I'm not black and open. But uh, so they brought in some stylistists and she's not giving me a fade so I'm like get

1:00:45 You know what's sad man the other day. I just did a there's some guys that are just evil. on the show when he was on season six But think about that, but that goes for all of us, right? You can have too much bravado. They can't keep their shit together. But like War Machine, the one guy to show up at his trial And- murder in in Mexico yeah part of our art I think you know it was like a bad one

1:03:57 challenged him a male, a male. I just never thought that he would do that to a girl. I angry all the time all the time and he hits like a fucking neutron bomb. Hermanson. Jack Hermanson fought a beautiful fire. Yeah him in check he said all right I got a lot more to learn yeah this you got to You can tell he's a good student too man he's the man. And he stopped Sean standing up.

1:06:53 It's a it's a different kind of family. I never never found this timing it ever Yeah, it's a championship run. He proved everybody wrong. He won the title think he right I think he doesn't get that it looked to me like he was coming How do I manage this but he did manage it? Yeah, bigger and bigger legend 37 see give it to him I think like seven or so.

1:09:39 Ways to Well can do stuff here. absolutely legit yeah cuz I mean listen I got a new knee and it's holding up Just to stabilize my shoulders a whole series of different things that I do every week no matter what I do Okay. The thing you were talking about too, helps to really stabilize the you know the connective, the ligaments. Isn't it crazy how some dudes just have crack just have some extra crack? I'm tight Joe Pfeiffer Oh

1:12:56 you could knock people out with one shot, which was so odd for a jujitsu guy. but the trapping range the crapplings right there anytime I got into a real But I think I knew a dude who was really good at Wing Chun And he was explaining some things to me and what some of the things that he was showing me this there's certain You put two Kung Fu masters in there, Wing Chun guys.

1:14:53 I've seen a few of those. I'm like, all right. I got to just close the distance It's crazy. And that's something say mark He's still teaching as a school, right? Oh yeah. Does he really? We've got Thai restaurants and he just orders Thai to the... Juju Mufu should give us like a discount code Ah. The bottle's sealed and the bag is sealed to You got it?

1:18:57 Let's go! Raulo probably did it this morning before he woke up. of all time. Did you see Deadpool Wolverine? No This is a great movie and he gets his ass kicked they're all beating him up and they're But you ain't like... you didn't like sticky fingers here it is here. It is this is a scene Oh just like one before a big lift. a hit yeah it's fun yes it around the room and let me try let me check before Before I attack my wife

1:22:26 I do this, he got me into the sixes. I like the nicotines though. So far no problems. But I think it's, you know, it's probably But everything was like real traditional right and then you see How's Khalil is probably in that same range Alex 37. How old is Khalil? You know, yeah definitely KO at 85 and just is he caught him with that perfect right hand? Well, I asked because when guys guys that fight like like Roy Jones

1:26:04 if you want to get really big, there's I would imagine if you wanna get really big, So your body's fully acclimated to this frame. I think that cut was hard man. I think that cut was hard and then he probably got off I don't know. Kyle Zaggy didn't knock him out, right? No. But he shut him out though. Different Roy Jones though. Oh my God. Yeah, Danny Green, Danny Green, yeah.

1:28:33 Sorry. Well, Terry Norris, that poor guy. I used to love him. Oh, this is a prime Terry Norris. This is a prime Terry Norris. This is a dangerous Terry Norris here, but he just catches him Just a pure one punch fighter. He took two more he was out on his feet bro, and those were wind up the last two he took two more, he didn't need two. He took two more, he was out on his feet, bro.

1:30:14 Oh, Gerald McClellan. they wound up fighting twice. I was at one of the fights. and it was Julio Cesar Chavez and Frankie Randall. What weight is this at? He was really struggling to make way. He sleeps him fast. Oh my goodness. What is going on with his hair? MGM well once John McClellan knew that he could put it on you it's like his all that left the body all my goodness

1:33:53 you think about red cards or yellow cards? I think they should bring them back. What Well, you got two different opponents, right? But a bunch of different weight classes Mm-hmm, and then Ortega can't make it and so Ortega steps out and then he winds up fighting So it's six and he was able to pull it out. Didn't they fight it? And more options for weight classes. Do you think same-day weigh-ins would change it but it would

1:36:30 And the guys who die a lot, like the Duck Ku Kims, Well, I mean, you're right. Just let them fight at 190 right. It's and also the the fucking drama of seeing if a guy dehydrated himself enough It's ridiculous Yeah and then just leave it alone That's what it is, yeah that's what it is for sure That's what you weigh figure out what you wave when you make the contract Yeah, and then that's what it is. Yeah, that's what it is

1:38:25 Yes, they took his belt. I saw it, I mean I saw an article about it. additional context on Mikey Musa Metsamichi's withdrawal from the 168 Denver Card. After Mikey failed weight and hydration tests on Thursday, he requested an opponent submission stinem I don't think it's impossible to eradicate it. That's like saying all they can always do steroids

1:41:22 It was just It's hard to tell in that picture. He's always gonna be a big guy, you know, he's a massive man I think I was a k1 Grand Prix champion that super legit kickboxing skills. And he wasn't a bad juice up right that's crazy but when there was just tests at the way ins it's They shouldn't be dehydrating themselves somebody gets really badly hurt because they had a really bad weight cut like

1:44:59 His natural weight is 175. At all. Maybe they need to weigh in the day they're signing the contract to see where both of them are that way right shenanigans No one's gonna they know what's gonna be saying their real weight to begin with What they do in, like Maryland for high school wrestling, They should do blood hydration levels. Don't let anybody fuck around like,

1:47:52 I think he has a limit on how much you can gain. Yeah, you should find out what you fucking really weigh and fight at what you really weigh and it shouldn't be the ultimate weight-cutting How are you the 170 pound champion when you weight 200 pounds? That's crazy Rolla Williams last time you weighed 265 That's his actual weight. No big organization.

1:50:59 Somebody let some poor football player have a boxing match with butter being it might have been a celebrity boxing match and butter being knocked Him into another dementia. He's a tough man, bro Who is that other guy? Is this a football player that he's fighting? He's big enough. It deserves it for that fucking step. This is one of them guys that you know somebody should have told them. Like this

1:53:14 Right. There's a place for everything, right? It's a different thing, man. It's a different knuckle, pussy. Let's go. Where I'll do this, you do that. It's a different thing, man. Bigger than, younger than. up and coming boxer, it's just everybody dismisses him I was heartbroken. Like, what other sport would we let a 58 a 58 year old man compete other than golf right?

1:55:48 I just want to see where it on him mitts does he dismiss the does it does he wish he didn't say yes to it? Yeah, best case scenario is Jake Paul realizes immediately My wife was driving home one day she saw zebra same place has more Oh, it's so tight, but the weed That's Houston. I think they just found out the guy had a tiger in there and they had to go in and dart him

1:59:30 what happened to the tiger king is he in jail still yeah still in jail I had the Those aren't bad though. Yeah, I heard it's real good. Fucking Newton fucking Hicks Hicks was great Hudson was good. Oh Hudson was fucking great Bill Paxson She's the hero. No, because it's hard to kill like aliens. They're shooting them left and right Bitch this is a giant alien. How is that thing not gonna? It moves way quicker than people

2:02:51 You know I was I was hoping they would have got more into like the engineers like when they did that Prometheus This is a- Yeah. I think the new ones really Scott too as well right and he's doing a new is he doing a new gladiator You will be my instrument It's Rome. Like, this is in India. modern English in the old timey movie, like nah. Or did they develop over time? That's a good question an English accent. Did they speak Latin with an Italian accent back then?

2:05:36 Okay, but here's the question, the reason why I ask this. When Martin Luther was translating it in school but you're never gonna fucking use it which is crazy. But isn't it crazy that those languages, It'd be 1,500 years old not 500. It holds up. I never heard anything about it. You should watch this. This is where, this is named Ray Stevenson. You know, no me my wife. She's waiting for my stomach to get better

2:09:33 Dirty yeah, we allow those funky dyes that are horrible for you and European countries like no that's just that shit's poison I don't know about meeting raisins in there and I'm and he's eating fucking KitKats. Oh, yeah, he's sugar sugar As hard as that guy worked out replenish your most Fasted or after a big workout there to save his times Smarter.

2:11:58 I mean, he's definitely the greatest defensive fighter My Donna has fully me with his tooth. Yes show it Jamie my Donna has How do you find his tooth in that motherfucker? So he's like probably tell this guy because he had more room to run. badass Muay Thai fighter and he fought And then he goes in and then super leck had timed it and he tried it earlier in the round and didn't catch it

2:15:06 So all these people are going to be able to see it on YouTube. That fucking elbow reminded me, it just brought me back to a wide minversa mark moon as November 16 whoo, that's a crazy fight. Yeah, I don't see Chris is in South Carolina now It was a bummer I feel like I keep saying it but I feel like they should cover those fingertips They curve down right curve. Yeah hard

2:17:39 It's not going to change your striking. You're not getting an individual thing going deep into your eyeball with a fingernail, which is what people get right now Think you should just use Trevor Whitman's glove Trevor what is the best yeah I do too you're always should talk to them they did apparently you wanted some crazy amount of money Yeah, you do. Thank you very much.

2:20:25 Let's see. They sure did. and Valentina. Yes, me too. I felt like Valentina did enough to get the nod in the card. I'm very very interested in the rematch of Alexa Grasso and Valentina. It's 10-8, you know like like boxing with knockdowns, right? Joe 45 I think so too. I think he's gonna be oh boy in a couple weeks to he's so big man Yeah, he didn't look good the day of the weigh-ins, you know, I do the interviews with fighters

2:23:28 Who do you like on that one? I mean they got a lot of hype on the sphere and like the names may not be there It's way cooler to see if it's only going to do it once. Oh, they probably you know what I mean and and so people get to try to see what was going on inside of there Mexico, they adopted Marab. I know he almost stopped The little fire plug with that little voice.

2:26:42 It had to do with, there was some psychological aspects to it too it too. I think there was like something when he was the nail it's a fucking robbery if you watch that. And he was just getting over fucking, what Yon Shao non against Zhang Wei Li member at the end of the round she was out cold. Oh, yeah For real. He's giving the thumbs up. Yeah what the fuck they stopped the fight.

2:29:40 Yeah, it's just laying there with his eyes open and it looked like he was out because he was fucking exhausted And if you look at the fight before that, that's the robbery of Frankie size. He's doing it to a two-division world champion Poor leech though like leech can't get I mean they just feed him to every other spot yeah who do you just fight leech Carlos protest

2:32:15 Yeah Yeah, they're sponsoring these guys. high-level stuff and now guys they have a standard in their head that's way I remember back in the day, we'd be like, it's a new move, don't show anybody! It just wasn't done that often because guys check it and never made if they check it and they turn out and you catch it That doesn't make the whole point of karate.

2:34:36 But you can ground and pound for like 10 seconds What's your feeling on that side kick to the knee like what Khalil did to Modesta's hate it. No, I don't hate I love If you ask him, I would rather take a shot to the knee or that shot to the head. You might take a shot to the knee. He was like one of the first guys to start using it on everybody. It's a real night. I'm making a street in a sparring match. The guy was telling me about the ATT

2:36:38 Kick where there's no protection. Well, that's why gloves are nuts I never once sparred with the new, I mean they came later on, like the gloves that you could, they're not quite, they're not the boxing gloves, the puffy's. I didn't have the luxury, I'm fucking five, six, if you want me to watch this shit you're playing right now I can't I'm not gonna

2:38:20 You have to, you have to simulate the fight as much as possible because you don't want and then he hits them with a couple more right hands against the cage and then immediately gets him in a choke when they He's trained under it now That's Tony Ferguson after Gagey, but Goggins put him through a fucking cardio sessions and strangle him to death. You're gonna pee your pants.

2:41:01 in the face, an epic KO loss. The Gach fight was horrific and then you got to go before that he blows his fucking knee out backstage For five rounds. when everybody was scared of him. So I mean is he ever surviving that you got to remember Kevin Lee maybe didn't So you gotta try to maximize that. We judge, that's why I would say BJ, because we judge BJ by the end of his career. It was like Tony Ferguson

2:43:37 I think it's about five years when you're just like in it like you in it. Let's get it right now Anderson Same one he landed in Uriah Hall, remember? That go-go gadget left hook. Good fights coming up kids some real good fights. Oh fuck. Yeah, I can't wait. I love it I know a lot of people would have counted out Armin Petrosian and Maga Medov. Max to the chin and he's got a. That new sneaky spinning back kick while he's stepping away.

2:46:35 Change the fight. that if it was in a movie right shut up right clearly ahead he fucking takes Yeah, I think that was the first fight I ever stood up. I got out of my chair I still gave him the second fight with Volkanovsky that gas tank is a weapon, it's a weapon man the volume in the gas tank that yeah, he doesn't stop. He doesn't stop it. It's a weapon man the volume in the gas tank

2:49:33 Has he yet? I was gonna say we haven't seen the other guy tested Ilya, but then again we did insane because he's going full clip trying to show off and you get to really like he's Bro. I would 100% want to see him rest a lot. I think after those two, he should have never You know, he took a risk. for sure never but you know they take advantage of MMA guys because they know

2:52:50 we'd have been like, Seven days notice. Yeah, and he always looks like a tank. It was dad bod instead of him, you know looking right more so you saw physically how he looked for the second look different yeah he Right and you get 10 days notice Butterbean yeah How big Patty is at 55 he's fucking pretty big and those kicks were good. Yeah, I'm saying he's not he's not a bad fighter

2:55:35 Oh, that's a good fight. Yeah, ooh boy, I'm up and how good is that fucking post fight interview? about poor yeas wife like come on man well that's why it's like I'm fine and Yeah, where would he do he kicked a soccer ball and then hit it with an arrow Yeah, that was hard that is to do. Yeah, what would he do? He kicked a soccer ball and then shot it with an arrow so he kicks it. Oh, he really

2:57:38 Imagine being the neighbor. That's pretty sick. Him and Carlos Conde Head split open, his lips split open. Nico Price. But he's also a guy like you want that guy to be proud of you. Yeah. Yeah, it's Robbie law He gets past that first round. He's got to keep them. He's a one-clinch. Yeah, it's gonna be very saying he needs one shot It's gonna be interesting.

3:01:09 He's also a great game plan. He definitely would lunge with his strikes. And he's not going to and that same energy you felt in the first, you're going to feel It's another weapon in the arsenal. I'm like, but he already did five rounds. he told me, Marabas, he didn't, until he accepted it, Dominant performance. Oh my goodness. That was a wake up call for

3:03:35 not, he's not definitely not And then these bombs are going your way get off of you I think you know once Gervonta and Ryan Garcia got it on now Money, that's I mean, it's what he said he was talking about if he said he's ready for free Yeah, I just see Ben Whitaker That was 20. But our chat group is still And I have a good time. So I knew you was going to ask me this,

3:07:31 one-on-one, and I'm also partnering with Valerie Energy Drinks. It's at Beemore MMA and also Shogun Fights, which we have another show coming up on October Good times.