Joe Rogan Experience #10164 — Israel Adesanya Transcript
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0:00 The Joe Rogan Experience. So when I was fighting in China and I lost to Alex, you know the money I had saved up and and had everything and nothing again. I think we engage also was last final three when they had the whole Reebok fiasco. It was a venom engage and someone else shorts and I was like bet and I hit up Curtis who I do too. So I like that, but I wish fighters had the ability to advertise a big time
3:49 I just feel like, you know, if they didn't like some I do like it when boxers were cool shorts. Yeah, they wear whatever the fuck they want like I love it when Melvin Manhoff I feel like the temptation for yeah tights temptation for grabbing is just too much. Yeah, and it does happen They don't want to be bad. just based on performance. We're about to drop it on YouTube now.
6:30 cards alone he's like stepped in be like yeah Sharma just does it jumps in. And so when he stepped off of him, he just decided to roll forward instead of putting Fight as much as possible so you can be in people's faces so they can see. you're getting posted here, here, and that's how you build a stock up. And I thought about it during the breakdown, like, yeah're right and it's cuz I knew him I've fought that guy so many times and regardless of what happened
8:45 He's scared. It's like, bro, I'm scared of shit. I'm praying for me, but like the way he carries himself something about him. Just he knows how to recover well the shower is the most interesting place on the planet you could beat me two times, You know what it is is you look at his foot Because I've been kicked by kickboxes all my life, on the Yeah.
11:36 gonna get it done cuz all it takes is one from either side but I just think like early on where everybody's like oh shit Go Kansaki is finally in the UFC and then boom But again, he's just violent. Can fight him both ways and I know what he when you give him that front leg and he knows it can get it And I said, look, all these 185ers should thank me, man.
14:03 But yeah, fucking Rob, Drakus, all them, because it's not about just fighting him. He knows when he has to fight me, and it's like, fuck, It's not an easy fight because he knows what I can do to him. But for me as well You just know but again, that's the beauty of the story Oh, we need a third one. I'm like look I do it again. I fucking knock him out. Well, oh no, it's three two
16:06 and I felt great. four weeks out. and I'm like, nah, I felt good in there. Those kind of moments, maybe if I was as active it Put a little bit more gas in the tank things like that and then just stay active like that You've been fighting your whole life. But if you can, instead of all this fight-specific training, It's not gonna deteriorate because your cardio
19:27 Even in shape, like it was fucking abs, all of that. I didn't I don't think so there was one point in the third round when me and him we really put it on and we get up, and he's on one knee. Like, yeah, I can respect that. So me and my boy AB, we put on some muscle for that fight Understand your body's getting older. No, I don't feel old though. That's the thing
21:58 Do you ever use a hyperbaric chamber? You do like 60 sessions over 90 days chromosomes that perform several important functions including protecting I've been seeing that lately. Yeah, it's not approved. You know, I'll see you later on Briggs How often do you do it? Using hyperbaric chambers to help him recover treatments as well. Yeah, I'd like to try that. Yeah, I bet Auckland has it. It's time consuming.
25:45 how can I, it was actually Eugene who said, That's so crazy. make sometimes something with chia seed. You should definitely be having breakfast cuz he thought like you're crazy He said he likes to fight hungry so that way he gets that edge and I feel that way when it's fight day Fighting for the title, you know the whole deal and he just felt it in the fight
28:26 Where and I think you know there'll be something like they've got the whole thing at one with the hydration clause But Louis I ever go to was 80 as a kickboxer that was Oh yeah. yeah really are close to death yeah I mean it sounds ridiculous to say that and No, I always come in underweight as well It's just like muscle memory and I get to the fight location. My body's like cool. We're doing this and then the weight just starts to go
31:35 It's it's well, I'm guessing a lot of water. There's a lot of water in there Yeah, I mean look, I do love this game I think when you have the big gaps like 85 to 205 is 20 pounds. That's crazy 265 yeah, you know crazy even Francis did as well Yeah. I don't understand how I take that seems like a That's silly, yeah, I get what you mean. What's his name?
35:16 But then they disqualified him. It should be legal and you should be avoiding that if you're on top But if you're in an open space and there's a place to move, But again, if you have someone pinned against a cage, If they see that they're like ooh, then it goes back to human cock fighting. So here's the Roger Huerta one. Yes, knees on the ground. That's ridiculous. Yeah, even the one you you've actually was it
38:42 that Herb said was, if someone wants it, I think he was alluding He said it in an interview when he was being criticized it. And I think they are because he's always like, let's work, let's work. Shady and just beat you up and you can't do shit, Yeah, i'm trying to think have I ever been in the position that they made me stand up? I just fucking do a Derek Lewis stand up get up and just beat him up as much as I can
41:45 Of Herb. A statement from him. Yes, it was a statement from Herb himself and he was saying, have spoken about me calling the fighters for more action. From him is not busy if what I'm and what I'm expecting from him is not busy work. I specify It was more- take away, like it's the WWE or anything. And if you can hold a guy down Standing up for a guy like you is a giant advantage. I'm like, I'm biased. I would be like fuck that
45:15 Yeah, that would be crazy. This yeah like this No, no, I got it wrong. They fucked up the decision That's is that one of the most difficult things like change your mindset in mid-fight like if something throws you off Which when you're hurt is huge. 30 minutes or 25 minutes of focus. So in that point, yeah, I can see well how that would get to him right, right, right.
48:38 I literally went like, because I was front, And Hato was fucked up too. Like when he fought Dan, I do you heard that? Mac life reporter he's fighting bare knuckle this weekend I believe or maybe I just don't like the knuckles because you see again you moose knuckles still there this can cause more damage but the old gloves, they felt like rubber, like tire rubber.
51:30 MMA gloves of all time. I've never seen them. See if you can pull them up. The Onix? Is that the Onix one? Yeah, you think of this. I feel like they should cover the fingers Regardless of all that he makes the best gloves. They're the best MMA gloves of all time by bar none Don't like to get hit. So maybe that's why I'm biased with it We'll see I don't know why the fingers have to be exposed because you never do this
54:11 and then something that's curved around the top. And fingernails. The other gloves were just they had that thing on them I've caused I think I call a tie and then they did something and then yeah Yeah, and remember when he got polled away. Oh, not the neon one. Yeah, that's right. Yeah That's not hard to do same thing like having glove size. I'm sure someone make it now or someone made that before
56:57 Interested in making the fight more exciting. I'm making I want I'm the best. What's the best? What actually works? The guy had a leg lock and Nate It's just fine. This is fine. This is fun pop and it's gone Yeah, so that's for me. But now sometimes in grappling with some people I watched you just sit down for 10 fucking minutes. you see the look in his face. Yeah, I just go now
59:47 I'm like, here we go. I will choke someone out, like a guillotine or a rare naked. Wrestlers cuz yeah, just let them know. Okay. This is always a threat. This is always a threat started talking online, I reached out to you on Instagram. I'll do the rest and look I would have but I'm glad I took my time and it was it was good for me just to And Andre, Andre Paulette, my wrestling coach, a lot of drills, just drills, wall work constantly.
1:02:18 I low key grappling on the side. I do enjoy it though. I love grappling. I like I feel like a ninja cat when I'm grappling and I'm on I'm on that flow state I'm just gonna stand up if kickboxing was as big as MMA. Do you think you've ever done MMA? Like gotta die like back in the day when it was USC versus boxing or whatever. I was like well myself so I can learn how to fight these guys and their own game so yeah that's
1:05:10 Easily easily be one of the biggest because everybody loves chaos everybody loves stand-up fights, and you're gonna slap fight and they're all coming over he just showed me who he is, but yeah, Just shielding like the Dutch style. But with the small gloves, you can get around the guard. You know what I mean? It's kind of crazy about the Dutch right like what is it about them?
1:07:40 Like what was like I wasn't getting paid that much. What does Rico Verhoeven get paid to defend his heavyweight title? the cage but as a human being. So all the things that have happened to me in my cool let's do it. The Yann thing is a crazy situation right because yawn goes to a split decision with prayer. It's a great fight Like if you look at his performances, the guy's not had a bad performance.
1:09:36 Like they're talking about Ankalayev fighting, you know, like, oh, Alex is avoiding Ankalayev Yeah, go see fucking what's his name Briggs, but yeah, I'm glad I got some today though. Thank you for that actually but in America you're dealing with a lot of corruption I will never, ever kill myself, ever. because I kind of got a little paranoid. is getting more attention than that.
1:11:57 but then it went viral. I've never even come close. before when I think 2013 I realized is this how people feel before they kill No one's been brought. No one's been discussed Diddy comes alleged list of accomplices to be, it's crazy. Oh man. Sean Diddy Combs alleged list of accomplishes God protects me. and you know, oh, Jennifer Lopez is gonna be there,
1:14:24 and they're putting in people's drinks and the champagne I was like, wait, word? Nothing ever came off it, but again, you find some chick, you pull on her, That's gotta be AI. I don't know if it's AI. I think that's real I think it was lube and baby oil. I think you had a variety of different substances Epstein and then is he in cahoots with was he in cahoots with him?
1:17:06 That the media had not covered for fucking decades And I went down the rabbit hole in 2020, I can't remember what it was for. you know what I'm saying? to make enormous amounts of money and they pulled it off. I don't need an apology knowing he's an apology, but it's kind of like everyone just oh well Even ones that are listed as vaccine side effects,
1:19:54 for the vaccine manufacturers, And not give any connection to it. Isn't that funny? It's through the looking glass. I've seen it. I might you know why that is? and then the overall all-cause mortality increase, It's just money. can't work, so your livelihood gone. because I saw people lying about me on CNN. no one gave a fuck that I got better real quick.
1:23:06 during 2020 I did four of those MIQ quarantines the one where you go back to prisoners or whatever and then I remember everyone's doing these circles was having a smoke somewhere. Looking at people it's about punishing this guy for disobeying the law had a newborn at the time so I have a picture of him with his wife and his son on the other side as well and
1:25:28 with all these other things. for months and months at a time just literally getting mentally ill just Everyone go it was good Eventually, that's all gonna lock down Yeah Like when I come here I love the food like the fucking you know shake shack or the just delicious like last night took so long for Me and my teammates, we just thought like when Trump wins, we need to have food for four days
1:29:18 If you just turn the cameras this way, we have our own chaos to deal with, Yeah, there was a guy who got caught with an AK-47 Even though it's illegal for him to be carrying a gun. He's a convicted felon and he Full panic yeah, the whole thing was madness and the fact that that went out of the news cycle real quickly, too scrubbed? Black Rock, the company?
1:31:59 Unfortunately, got ahold of Trump. I mean just like really Harvey Oswald I'll have to question everything because now it's fingers text. I can kind of oh, that's a bullshit Not so sporty sporty films like one of the best pictures. I got sent was this because it was a well-made, not so sporty, sporty film. When did they start filming this? famous. Like you know the MTV Cribs era, the Pimp My Ride era. I thought yo
1:35:16 Don't you have the McLaren though? these kids are like they just drove by my house and they beat the horn they Yeah, just dealing with people was the main thing for me because I didn't expect the attention I gotta say oh, please just one and I'm like, it's not just one right? You don't understand She hates it good my middle daughter doesn't it doesn't bother her that much
1:37:53 I can feel it coming wants to see me because they look like they're about to pull out a gun They just come up at you. I want a photo too. Right. I might. You don't even know what I do. But I this thing where they just see people taking photos. I want a photo, too I was like, I don't know. But again, I prefer meeting people on a first-name basis, right?
1:39:35 Because if you give up your energy to everyone you will get lost. Yeah, you will get lost So before the rub fight, I felt the same thing again I'm like, I'm in the toilet. So I just sent her just sat there and she's like, where are you? It's the yelling thing. I like those but if we have a genuine connection and I vibe with someone and we end up talking for like five minutes even
1:41:37 And I, this is another one of those things. Next like five hours But why did I have to film it so I can show people? Well, but you've had those experiences. But not now it's better because when I meet home, I was like, yeah, I told him about that, and I felt so stupid. It's like, ugh. But I know now it's better, because everyone was trying to get a photo.
1:44:04 the thing you don't need to take a photo for everything just enjoy the moment We just dapping up and talking and then enjoy your fight, I enjoyed your fight, this and that, right? Yeah. You're like, oh my God, me and my wife is like, we're here. And I was just cool. Yeah, he came here before the pandemic. Yeah, and he was the one who put it in my head because you know, Rom's
1:46:51 Other comedy clubs to perform there only when you are very very beginning and it's corrupt comedy clubs that you have to pay for stage time So we just wanna make it a real place killing it. it's fun to see the process of them starting up. going to be even bigger. And seeing people bomb when Kill Tony, That's what it is. It's like oh shit that didn't land.
1:49:12 You don't have to rely on your body For most people, there's a small window. What you've done is like the rarest of the rarest of the rare and then win it back again. Mm-hmm I'm like, you're better than this. You see them make the mental mistakes, I just want to fight, have fun. I've done in this game what's gonna make me happy right right how could you be
1:51:47 Well, but I still feel like I'm that guy because a lot of people still have that target on my back because I'm Israel Just concentrate on the task instead of this whole thing Pressure still there, but it's not the same and I'm like cool. I got to just fight for me now. I get to have fun The way I used to fight when I was a young fucking schizo fritterer
1:53:32 Pressure is more and it just restricts your creativity. It restricts your ability to just be loose And I lost it. I like yeah, so it's just natural Yeah, facts. I've seen it. Yeah, I've even felt it as well. Like we're just like I Rob comes out fighting We'll see it'll be a good fight. It'll be fun. But again, what has he done? He beat Bryan and Alan You know why and is that five round worthy?
1:56:12 Yeah, man. title loss and then you know third round he wins and you're like God what would You have five rounds of the spider circuit. Oh shit. That's where you find out the men from the boys you separate Let's see three more years. It was just another Dave Chappelle quote. That was just his and everything. momentum of that fight? you see the picture, like, I'm okay.
1:59:19 Nothing really got through is just a lot of flurries and look violent Well, we'll see. and sometimes short notice shit happens. You know what I mean? And it's like, well, I'm like I don't know I'm just chilling so again I'm just gonna keep training and sometimes short notice shit happens you know I mean and it's I think the quality is different. Also, I try to stay off Uber eats as much as possible now
2:01:10 that is like there's so many killers coming out of that and Olberg now on the that's him yeah the guy in the red big nav boom and they set him up boom boom drills it and he's using it on you straight away or the next day it's just They try to stifle us during COVID, you know, moving the goalposts or you can quarantine New Zealand is because of city kickboxing. If not for that place, I definitely would still be there
2:03:56 Even here in Austin. The laws doesn't apply to me, you know what I mean? That's why I don't follow politics Yeah, if it wasn't for CKB, And again, I like watching America and the rest of the world I definitely want to travel after fighting. Where I feel like I'm gonna die. So one of my plans Cool, that's good. No Dissatisfaction and then they come back to try and reclaim that glory. Yeah do it for less money and
2:08:10 good. You gotta ask to be good. Oh yeah, facts. There's a lot of people that want a great you know fighters when they have to deal with shit yeah before a fight before and you don't care about, At least she knew better. I know it's nuts So again, if you're a team, I'm learning and I'm not looking it's like, look, she was with him when he was no one,
2:10:35 It can work, but boy, you gotta find the right person. just for fun in LA. I was like, let me see, I hate these apps. I don't chilling. I actually got on Hinge the other day just for fun in LA. But I went on Hinge in LA just to see what's up, I'm like am I trying to do adoption or some shit? It's like, you only, especially when you're doing but there's a lot more free time.
2:12:12 You know fighting it's not always like that everything so that way when I'm done I just know I did everything I could to be It's more like just the highlights and I just know I can so that's that's more I think GSB stopped just around there as well, 37 maybe. But 38 right now is in my head who knows fucking 36 37. I'm just like right You know, this kind of stuff.
2:15:02 I can learn. And I'm very coachable that I can learn and I'm very coachable can present it properly also fuck all this shit with AI I might just be able I feel like I would have ended up as one of those sad stories But they always they come out the woodwork and it's like let me see but then my dad's able to tell this is legit Ha ha ha. That's a great thing to have.
2:17:45 Like, I'm, when I talk about imposter syndrome I'm like, how the fuck do I have this many and that, you know, with the property values and whatnot. So again, I'm grateful grateful so grateful that he's around when he would come, because I was at the buffet in Perth, and some guy came up to me just like, But some people don't know how to react, I'm like, thank you, I felt good in that one.
2:20:09 to be everything. You have to live and die by your performances and when your like people will probably even pick a fight over me than DDP or maybe not here, I just have a lot more freedom What are you now, 57? Yeah, life is an experience. Glad I said that one that was so long ago, and I was again I had a great, great day at training, morning. bro, I get paid millions for this,
2:23:26 Then he drove and then parked in front of my car But again, I'm glad, this is the day and age or he was maybe cracked out or something. it was something that we all had to go through I'm sorry. He's crazy person so for me again, that's why I say I'm soft and I had to I had to really hold myself back Dan would not have the patience that I have. Now that video can be used because we're trying to change the laws.
2:26:31 we all did it together in lockdown, so what kind of punishments that you get to sit at home and watch Netflix and I'll have to definitely defend myself and there's no fucking referee in a Yeah, it's stuff for me. You know I mean the guy that just keeps quiet and yeah, you know follows the rules just very just very humble like So I know what real humility is.
2:28:43 But again, like I said, I'm soft, but sometimes, you know. It yeah, I try to keep it real as always. But again, like I said, I'm soft but Well, I'll be wearing pink my whole life niggas been saying I'm gay, bro But I can be a dickhead, I have been a dickhead in the past, than I thought you would be in person. Look, there's people you can find who be like,
2:30:28 So I had to be an asshole to get you to fuck away from me. How are you? I was pumping gas and the guy tried to take I try to make me talk to his cousin on the phone and I said I've put that out enough where I feel like people do respect it now Yeah, or not all the ones that is when to come bro. I bet on your fight a I'm like, yeah Yeah, don't put your money up, right?
2:32:56 there's something about every group of people They confuse respect with fear. yourself and the way you communicate and the way you're honest and just you can be yourself, it's a great example to other people, especially Everything from Dave Dawson's I've met you that you don't remember and I'm glad you don't remember and you know who you are as a person.
2:34:48 All right. Beautiful.