Joe Rogan Experience #10177 — John Rallo, Matt Serra & Din Thomas Transcript

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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! Hello, boys. My bad! Good to see you. We're back in action. We're back! We're back! We were just talking and I told Rallo to get off. I told Rallo, save this for the air. Because Rallo years ago, shit, this had to be like at least 10 years ago. 20. 20 years ago? That was like 2006, 2007. That's crazy. So 20 years ago, Rallo calls me up and he says, Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something. I go, okay, sure. So we go to see his concert. That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernova, the TV show. Yeah, it was a TV show. That's right. So he had a TV show. It was at Long Beach. Right, right. It was a good show. You and Eddie came. Me and Eddie Bravo came. And then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. Like he sets his green room up like a fucking after hours party. He's got like tapestries on the wall and candles and lights. And scents. Yeah, you're walking like, damn. His DJ gear. Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room. Like I'm lazy. He got it. Yeah. If I go on the road, I just go, what's your green room? I'll go hang out in there. It's like it doesn't just walk. But he has it set up. Like everywhere is like calm and relaxing and spiritual. And so I meet Tommy. And Tommy wants to fight kid rocking the UFC. Is this true? What makes people think they can do this? It's for Pam Anderson's heart. Yeah. Well, wait. This is how it started. This is kind of how it started. That was that way with Pam. Yeah. Like, you know, they both were married to her. So Tommy and her are always going to be connected because of the kids. So she had split up with Kid Rock. And Kid Rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her. Not together, but, you know, they were together that day. And she asked him, you know, you're friends with him. Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and shit? And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit. Oh, boy. And she's like, you know, please. So he winds up hitting, you know, him up and like, look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call. Blah, blah, blah. Of course, Kid Rock took the heat. Fuck you, you know, blah, blah. So they're fucking each other back and forth. Goes away. Now, there was some MTV Awards thing. And actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing. And there was this rumor that Kid Rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and, like, come to Tommy's room and attack him. Oh, shit. So me, my man Kimo, who you know as well, you know, we're sleeping in Tommy's room hoping they show up. And, of course, they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door in. I think totally for... Oh, so they actually went looking for him? For real? I don't think they went looking for him. So you think they busted up the wrong room. I think it was a big publicity fucking stunt. Busted up the wrong room. They signed some autographs and they keep it moving. So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, yo, dude. I go, fuck him. I go, you should fight him on pay-per-view. Imagine all the money that we make. I go, I'll fight his fucking security guy. Like, we'll fucking make a whole thing of it. And he goes, man, that's brilliant. Oh, my God. So I go, you know, I'm telling you. I said, you should do... I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up or he punks out and you win either way. And he's like, yeah, I like this. So he talks to his management. Of course, it just goes by the wayside. Well, they're having some MTV Awards shit. Security's not allowed on the floor there. They had their own, like, you know, it was in the casino. They have security for it. While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock like comes up kind of behind him and pokes him and Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him there. Oh, he hit him? Yeah. What? And I'm home. My phone is getting blown the fuck up. Like, what happened with Tommy? What happened with Tommy? I'm like, I don't fucking know. Like, I'm not with him right now. And I get a call. I swear, like, 30 minutes later and it's Tommy. And he's going, fuck him. He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker. I want to fight him. I'm going to fucking fight him now. I go, he goes, I want you to train me. I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out. I go, no. You're moving to me. I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little fucking ass kissers. I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it. Was he working out at all at the time? No. So, you know, the only working out he does is on the drums, which he does murder. That is a little bit of arm condition. It is, yeah, for sure. That's like a little punchy. Definitely. And I can show you a picture of him with a choke on me and it's legit. Like, he did train with Horian and I told you guys, he trained some with Billy Blanks. So, you know, Billy Blanks was, I've talked about this on the podcast. He's for real, right? He was a bad motherfucker and he's dead. He was one of those, like, Raymond Daniels type karate point fighting characters. Yeah, okay. In the early days. He's a Taibo guy. He's a Taibo guy, but we'll get to that later. All right. Yeah, so I bring him in and I told him, I said, look, when we're going to Long Beach, I said, I know Rogan, I can have him come in and you can tell him your idea. And he goes, all right, all right. So, I bring Joe and Eddie, they meet him. He tells Joe he wants to fight him. Literally, and Tommy said his sanctuary was his management company at the time. I don't know if he still is or not. So, they call Kid Rock's people, supposedly, and offer this fucking fight on pay-per-view. And Kid Rock's people wound up calling back and basically turning it down, saying whoever loses is ruined for, you know, for life, I guess, because looking like a bitch because they both had the rock and roll tough guy, you know, image thing. So, that's literally, he said that in print. That's literally how it stopped. Was that in print? What's that? Whoever loses this is ruined or was that a call from you? No, no, no, no. That was supposedly the response from Kid Rock's management to Tommy's management. That is correct. He would be correct. Yeah, but if it's a good fight, like a Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin. Oh, my God. Well, that would be different. Then they both win. That would be revolutionary. Yeah. I kind of forget who won that fight. Stefan Bonner, Forrest Griffin. Yeah. Forrest won that fight. I know Forrest won it. But I kind of forget because the fight was so good. It was amazing. That was one of the most toss-up fights of all time. Yeah. Like, who fucking knows who won that fight? And Dana did the right thing. He contracted both of them. It was amazing. We actually talked about it in the octagon right before he did it. Wow. Did you really? Yeah. It was like, you should give both these motherfuckers a bonus. Yeah. He's like, we were going to do that. Yeah. I'm like, fuck yeah. It was amazing. Do you think if it wasn't for the ultimate fighter, it would have died out? Who knows, man? But it was like lightning in a bottle. Because there was another good fight before that. Diego Sanchez. Fuck Kenny Florian up, man. It was Diego Sanchez. That was a one-way beating. But that was Diego Sanchez coming up. Like, people got to see Diego fight too many fights. They got to see the later fights. They forgot what a monster Diego was in his prime. He was a cardio animal. Question is grappling. I mean, Marcelo got him. But, you know, he hung with one of the best of all time. Just in ADCC. Yeah. Is he doing okay? Diego was a fucking... I don't know. Listen, man. You can only get hit so many times. Agreed. And he was halfway gone before taking all the shots. Well, he was always like this open-minded, weird thinker. Remember he had that guy that was training him that you had a little bit of disagreement with? What about that loser? Joshua Fabia. Yeah. Don't mention his name. Yeah. Piece of shit. Cut that part out here. That guy was demented. Well, he had Diego hanging upside down. He was like smacking his face. Yeah. The video's insane. The video's insane. But Diego was like super, super open-minded. Like he was willing to believe in magic. You know what I'm saying? Like he believed in himself so much that Diego was like... And he was also like doing weird stuff. Like he would chew meat and spit it out. He would just chew it down, like get all the juices from it, and then spit whatever's left out. You wouldn't swallow the meat. But he was fun to watch. He was a fucking animal, dude. He was a fucking animal. Steve Maxwell trained him for the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape. But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ started. That was when BJ was training with the Marinovichs. He was leaping out of pools. BJ was unstoppable back then. There was a time where I would say, watch BJ in his prime. I'll put that dude up against anybody. BJ in his prime was... Yeah, there's no doubt. I always say he's the best 55er of all time. He was a Wolverine. Like in that window, right? In that window when he beat Matt Hughes. Yeah, he was a human Wolverine. Yeah. But you did a lot better with him than I did. Well, I didn't want to bring that out. I thought you did. But you had elite world championship caliber Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah. You know what I mean? And a guy like him relies on Jiu-Jitsu a lot. But BJ was just... There's two fights. The Kenny... I'm sorry. Sean Shirk flight. The Sean Shirk fight was prime BJ. Yeah. Prime BJ. And then Diego Sanchez. What about Caro Uno? That's another one too. But Diego was more highly ranked than Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Red Caro Uno. Well, I mean... He was a beast. Look what he did to Matt Hughes when he took the title. Yeah. He was a beast. Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming up to my weight class? Right. Yeah. Yeah. That type of thing. He was a Wolverine. Yeah, he was. Yeah. The dude would fight people at 200... He fought Leoto Machida, 200 pounds. That's crazy. Yeah. He was a Wolverine. He did good about that. Fucking animal. And did real good. Yeah. Scary on the feet. Yeah. A natural 55er who fought as low as 45. Remember? He went down to 45 for a while. Bro, BJ was a monster. He was well-rounded too before guys were super well-rounded. Like he threw hands well. If he just had the will to go through those Marinovich camps every fight, he would have been unstoppable. He just, BJ would, you know, he would just lose his focus a little bit. I watched a YouTube documentary about like the rise and trajectory and then the later years. It was really well done. But it was all just talking about how there's this prime BJ and that's when he was training with the Marinovichs and incredible conditioning and he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning. Do you think he, it wasn't laziness, right? What do you think it was? A lot of friends, a lot of parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the king of the island. Yeah, for sure. He's basically the king of Hawaii. For sure. I think PG Penn was the king. Everywhere he would go, people were like, it's PG. I mean, he was the king in Vegas, man. In those prime years when he was the champ, he was a huge star. So I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo. He's probably hanging out with the boys all the time, having a good time. Plus his family like had influence there, right? They had like money. They had some money. He didn't come from poverty. But it's just like, it just was real hard to maintain those kind of camps. Those camps are insane. He was also super, super talented. Super talented. And so it's like, he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people. Like in practice. It definitely came easy. His flexibility and leg dexterity was amazing. Oh my goodness. That's pretty ridiculous. I remember when I fought him and we were doing a rules meeting. This is the time where like we could ask questions. Like they did everybody in the rules meeting. And I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner. And Frank's like, are we allowed to in guard kick him in the head? I'm like, what the hell? Like he was talking about his flexibility just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the head from there. And I was like, what the hell is this guy insane? Right. I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there? But apparently BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that. He put his feet behind his head. He could do double Lotus without using his hands. That's crazy. Like sit back and just fucking completely crumb. But Lotus. Yeah. Like interlocked with no hands. That's insane. It's nuts. His flexibility is bananas. Yeah. And he worked on it. It wasn't just like a natural gift. But how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms? There's so much fucking stronger. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There he is. That's nuts, man. Look at that. He can put his own fucking leg behind his head with no hands. That's crazy flexibility. That's he was going to kick you while you were north-south. Yeah. That is nuts. I don't know if he's going to do that. That is nuts. But is that legal? No. There's a lot of goofy rules, right? Like that's, there's a, I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them, but at least knees to the head. Knees to the head should be okay with that. For sure. Because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding onto it and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life. Yeah. Right. Let's just, real life, a real fight. Why wouldn't the guy knee you in the head? You're grabbing his knee. You're all him right here. All he has to do is knee you in the face and he can't do it. Because you're on your knees. And let's be fair. Like a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like that's not as bad. Oh yeah. It's way more behind it. Yeah. That's not as bad. If you're on the floor and I knee you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneeing you right in the face. Yes. Yeah. Well especially if you're like the Michael Venom Page fight. The sideboard. Oh yeah. The sideboard. Jesus Christ. Yes. If you ever want to know what's the most destructive strike in MMA. Yeah. The most amount of power you can generate has got to be a knee. A flying knee. While a guy's coming in. When a guy's like shooting in on you. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the kick, the jab, the kick to the knee. I agree. I'm not a fan of that. Oblique kick? I agree. Side kick's the knee. You saw what happens if you hit it right when Khalil did it. He did Modestus. Yeah. Modestus Bukowski. You know, my opinion there is it's just something that if you hit it right, an injury's coming and not a good one. You can't tap. It's not like a knee bar or something. Exactly. So I kind of think if you can't kick a guy in the side of the knee for that reason, why should you be able to fucking kick him square to it? If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts. I'm going to be real. I need to know what are we doing here? What are we doing here? We're pretending. Like, wear a cup and I can kick you in the nuts. There's some good cups out there. I'll just get a steal one. It's crazy. Like, why do we have weird rules like that? Yeah, it's crazy because, like, every time somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you say it. You always say it. Why don't you get a steal cup? The fact that no one has a steal cup to me, after all this time, is unbelievable. And it's ultimate cheap code in grappling, too. If I got your back with that thing on. Remember Amir Renovati? Yeah, yeah. That's a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. I trained with him at Legends, and he mounted me, and he put his cup in my solar plexus. Like, I was ready to tap from his dick. You know how cool that is? All right, imagine my 265 doing that. You know what I mean? And I always wore a cup when I train, you know? And it's also, that's a lever for an armbar? Oh, man. It's like a rock. A kneebar or anything. How you gonna slide your elbow past that? You know, it's a weird fucking look when the guys wear the whole spandex, and they have that steel cup, so they got like a fucking dick in their fucking super... The Shoney Carter cup? Yeah, it's fucking... That's a yellow Romero. You remember that? Yeah, right? Remember that Shoney Carter cup? I think Eddie fucking talked about it for the entire fight. It was a King of the Cage fight, and Shoney was fighting, and he had a giant cup on. And I swear, Eddie just commentated about the size of the cup. It was hilarious. Bro, in the Taekwondo days, they had ones you'd put on over your pants. So you'd have your gi pants on, and then you'd put these ones on over it, and it had like this big strap. It'd go right up to your taint. Like right literally to your asshole. And then go all the way up like this, and you would strap it in. But it was way better. It was way better. Was it like a boxing cup? No, it was just for Taekwondo. It was just literally designed to wear outside. So you could kick with it. And that's when I realized, like, oh, you can never wear regular cups. Like regular cups move too much. It's just sitting there. Right. And sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg. When you get hit there, it's way worse. And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory. A hundred percent. If you have to wear a mouthpiece, why don't you wear compression shorts? Yeah, for sure. Wear those like the diamond MMA ones. That's a cup I have. I like that. Legit. And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine. You don't want to have dental floss up your asshole. Right, right. You just have them tied on. It's uncomfortable, but that's... I would think if I was advising someone, I'd say get a fucking steel cup before they outlaw it. Because they should have outlawed it a long time ago. You should have to wear that, though. I mean, it would eliminate all the nut shots. If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%. If somebody kicks you in the nuts, it'll hurt them more than it hurts you. Like, it protects you from everything. It's uncomfortable. That's all it is. Just uncomfortable. So what? Well, I mean... So it's fighting. Yeah. Yeah. So it's fighting. So it's getting kicked in the nuts. Dude, I can't believe it's legal. I really... It's like one of the... How do you have steel in there? Who does that? I don't think anybody has a steel cup. A bunch of guys do. Do they? DC wore it every fight he had. Oh, shit. Dude, imagine a guy diving on a double and you hip into him. Oh, man. You're slamming his face with your dick. Your dick is covered in metal. Your dick's covered in metal. And that's legal. Yeah. You have to have pads on your knuckles. You have to have pads on your knuckles and you've got an armor plate over your cock. Yeah. I would definitely wear that if I was fighting. Yeah. I'm selling them. Why not? I'm going to start selling them on my website. Because it's like there's no way that should be legal. Yeah. Like how is that legal? I don't know. It's fucking metal. You're bringing metal into the equation. A foot can hit metal. A knee can hit metal. And you can do that. And the fact that no one does it. It's not. Well, a few guys do it. We were talking about different guys who've done it that are currently doing it. And I know DC did it, but there's a few guys who still do it. And we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts. I don't remember which guys he was pointing out, but there's a few guys. Kenny Florian always wore a steel cup. But the fact that not everyone does it is with... Delagrade. Yeah, for sure. Delagrade for sure. Delagrade. For sure. Delagrade. For sure. Delagrade. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. That's fucking interesting. You ever hear when Delagrade starts talking Thai? No, I never heard that. He speaks fluent Thai. Does he really? He's got that... He's like a guinea from Boston. Yeah. From Boston. When he talks, he can talk to Thai people. It freaks them out. Really? Oh, yeah, man. He spent a lot of time in Thailand. Combat Sports takes center stage this Saturday with the new DraftKings Predictions app. Now available in California, Florida, Texas, and more. You can make real money predictions on Saturday's biggest fights. There's always something to predict. Pick a topic. Make a prediction. Will the main event go the distance? Will there be a knockout? Which fighter will win? Lock in your prediction before the fight or jump in live as the action unfolds. When momentum shifts, you can stay with your position or adjust based on what you're seeing in real time. Download the DraftKings Predictions app today with code ROGAN. New predictions. Customers trade $5 and get $50 in predictions dollars with promo code ROGAN. Don't just feel it. Predict it with DraftKings Predictions. The crown is yours. 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You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the King of Queens. Yeah. He worked with Mark a lot. And Kevin's been my friend for years. But I really hadn't seen him hit paths. I saw him hit paths with Della Grotti. I was like, "What the fuck, dude?" I'm like, "That's good. Like, this looks good." Yeah, he's like, "Mark will make you look good." Mark's a good fucking coach, man. He's a really solid coach. Gave Longo a black eye. He sparred one time with Longo, Kevin James. Did he? Longo's walking around like fucking Petey from Lil' Razz. That's awesome. Kevin's a deceptively fast dude. Yeah, he's athletic. You know, for a big dude. When I first met him, he was jacked. Like, he wasn't as big as he got at one point in time, but he's always kind of seesawed back and forth. But he was a karate guy. He was always doing karate when he was younger. He's super athletic. There he is. It doesn't look as good there. It's like me and the offseason over there. I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly. Right. But he had Della Grotti staying with him a while and Della Grotti was training him. Yeah, I saw him in Kill Cliff. Just like blending in with the guys. Like, he wasn't like standing out. He was just at Kill Cliff. Just working out? Yeah, blending in with the guys. Yeah, blending in with the guys. He's a great guy. I've known him forever. I've just seen him in either Becky or The Wrath of Becky. Oh yeah, that's right. It's not a bad show. It was great. He plays a psycho. And the girl in it is great. Yeah. The girl is like a little psycho girl. That's a fun movie. It's fun. Yeah. I think it's the first one called Becky. And he plays a villain. He plays... The other guy that did it was Joel McHale. Joel McHale played the second psycho in one of the other movies. I forget was that the first or the second one. I think he's in the second one. The Wrath of Becky. Kevin was awesome. He's good. These are good movies. Kevin played a good psycho. Hey, did you ever see The Knight of the Seven Kingdoms? No, I haven't seen that yet. Oh, it's so good. I'm gonna watch it though because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of the first year, the first all Game of Thrones. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What, you're doing it over? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you've seen it already. But I haven't seen it since like 2015 or 11. It's awesome. It's amazing. It's fucking amazing. It's awesome. It's fucking awesome. This, you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones because this takes place 90 years before the first events of the Game of Thrones. Sir Duncan the Tall. Yep. It is so good. It is good. So well done. And it's based on the novel. I'm a fucking nerd. I read the graphic novel of it by George R.R. Martin. Yeah, yeah. And I read it back in the day and it was, it's so great. And you know how they have like trial by combat. Yeah. And this one, not to give everything away, but this guy gets into it and he has to do a trial by seven. So it's seven on seven nights. Yep. And it's like one of those things. He's a hedge knight. It's fucking really. Yeah, it's good. It's a great story. Did you ever watch the House of the Dragon? Yes. It's a lot of cool shit. Yeah. But there's nobody to root for. They're a bunch of pricks. Right. Right. One's worse than the other. Right. I mean back in Game of Thrones, Jon Snowy. Right. Right. Ned Stark. Sure. Even some guys that are, you know, even just great characters and some guys that are on like the Hound who's like the anti-hero. But with this one, it's just a fucking good, solid dude trying to do the right thing. Yep. And by trying to do the right thing, he gets into, you know, into some trouble. And it's just, it gives you like, it's like being righteous and have like real heroics. Like, you know what I mean? Like some shit that's missing nowadays, cause it's all about getting a fucking message in there or making some shit diverse, which I love though. You know what's funny about B-E-I-D? Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones was like a feminist series. If you really think about it. I mean, it really was. But without any fanfare. Like no bringing it up. No one paid attention to it. But the baddest people on that show were the women. It's true. Cersei Lannister was the baddest bitch in the world. Arya Stark fucking killed everybody. Yeah. And then Sansa Stark kept it together through all that shit. Brienne of Tar fucked everybody up, including the Hounds. Yeah. I didn't realize. The most feminist. And then you got the Queen of Dragons. Yes. And you got Daenerys. The Queen of Dragons, who's the baddest motherfucker on earth. You literally can't burn her. And she's got three dragons. Yeah. It's a feminist series. I didn't realize that. It is. It's a completely feminist series, but without. It never even crosses your mind. It doesn't cross your mind. Cause it's so good you don't care. It's not like dumb. It's in your face. You haven't watched that, Dean? Yeah. No, I did. And House of Dragons is the same way. Right. Like there's some of these like Star Wars movies where it's all women generals and you're like, Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. And all the men are scared of them and they all get out of the room. Like this is fiction. Yeah, right. This is nonsense. Even though that's obviously fiction too, it's way better. Like a lady that has dragons, the hottest bitch around. She's got dragons. Yeah. Yeah. She fucks a bunch of killers. Yeah. She brings them into her bed. Well, because they do a good job of making them. Barbarians. Well, they do such a good job of making them flawed. Yes. That you don't even realize that they are the baddest motherfuckers in the world. But they're so, but they're flawed in a way where it's like, it makes them human. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look at Cersei Lannister. All of her kids gone. That bitch survives. She's got a giant demon that watches over her. Yeah. Like she's in love with her brother. She fucks her brother. She fucks her brother. Maybe when she had the, well, I don't, spoiler alert. But when she had that, the priest that tortured her where she was in the cell when they finally got her. Yeah. And she's like, I'm ready to meet my maker. She's like, oh, you're not going to die today. Oh man. And then the, the fucking John Rollo taking off his own. Oh my God. That was John Rollo. Oh my God. Oh dude. That was such a horrifying scene. It was such a great show though. Is there a better like world, universe? The other thing too. No. No one was safe on that show. You never knew that the biggest character could just get fucking murked like the next episode. Yeah. That Pedro, Pedro Pascal that played that. Yeah. What was his character? Oh yeah. When he got killed by the mountain. Prince Oberyn. Prince Adora. First of all, I never thought they would kill him. Like that guy's an important character. He's bringing all this new life to the show. Yeah. And all of a sudden you see the mountain. Get his, knuckles into that guy's eyeballs and crush his head. That was so crazy. Holy fuck. That was like one of the most disturbing murder scenes you've ever seen in your life. And he was doing great. He was taking a shit on him. He got too cocky. Yeah man. Worked him over. Thought he had him. You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children. Some shit like that. He kept repeating it. Yeah. And strutting around while the mountain's on his back. Yeah. What a crazy show. Such a good show. One of the greatest shows of all time. I'm telling you. You gotta text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Cause it's all out. You can binge it. I'm gonna do it as soon as we're done with this. It's quick dude Joe. It's been seven now. Six episodes. And each episode's like 30 minutes or some shit. Right. You run through it. The House of Dragons never really dragged me in. It didn't. I loved it. It was interesting. I liked it. But it wasn't the same thing. Definitely not. I think this, the new one is in my opinion better. I thought. Oh the night. Yeah. Night of the Seven Kingdoms. There's parts in it that just get you going like fuck yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I hope they lengthen it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Six half hour episodes. But I love the relationship between the kid and the dunk. Yeah. They made that so fucking cool. That was the whole show. Right. One thing I did love about House of Dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon. Oh that was cool shit. And they brought all those people down there to test him. Oh yeah. Snatch. You have to have some Targaryen blood. Yeah. And a lot of Targaryens fucked a lot of regular people. So they were searching for Targaryen blood. Yeah. Just taking people out of the pub. And just push them in front of the dragon. That was crazy. She first asked one of the Kings God. Like you know we tracked you back to whatever. And he's like oh it's a great honor. No I want to do it. Yeah buddy. Careful what you wish for motherfucker. That scene was nuts. That scene was nuts. That scene was nuts. Dude the Red Wedding. Fucking that was the craziest shit ever. Oh yeah. You couldn't believe it was happening. No. Why was happening like this can't be happening. Cause they were taking everybody. This can't be happening. This can't be happening. Did you hate the ending as much as everybody else? I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like they had to tie it up. And like da da da. Nice da da bow. You know I would have been almost better if it was like no country for old men style ending. Yeah. I think all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards. Yeah. You don't have to tie it in. I'm not 12. Yeah. Yeah. Once it got past the books it took a hit. Yeah. Well that guy's a genius. I mean the world that guy created and the complexity of all the characters like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister. Oh my god. Oh my god. So good. Yeah. Yeah man. I mean that guy was so fucking good man. They're already doing the Sworn Sword which is the second book of Game of Thrones of the Dunkin' Egg Tales. Oh nice. Yeah. Awesome. That's his writing too? That's his yeah. He did three books. It was A Night of the Seven Kingdoms which they just did. They're gonna do A Sworn Sword and then it's The Mystery Night. I don't know anything but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit. Don't ask me about anything else. Game of Thrones and Star Wars. Listen man. You're my go to. The world's so fucked up you're way better off with that stuff in your head. That's why I do it man. It's such an escape man. Just to sit home and watch TV. We were talking about that last night. That's all I do man. Sit home and watch TV. Speaking of Star Wars I got a text out of nowhere from George St. Pierre. He loves it as much as me. Oh yeah. It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series. My brother. Oh I swear to God. Yo. And then he gave me back a report. He told me. He's like oh it's so far so good. Did they say that? I told you. My brother's like I know Matt's into Star Wars. Tell him watch the new Darth Maul. It's good. You know Jamie said. It's fun. I love George. He's the best. He loves the stuff. I love the hardest time convincing people who he is. It's hilarious. What do you mean? When people. When he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA. They're like what does your friend do? I go that is one of the greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth. 100%. They're like no for real. I go yeah 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time. And he's like hello nice to meet you. Yeah right. He just seems so sweet and friendly. Man that's the problem with MMA is that like you have to convince people about how bad somebody was and it wasn't that long ago. I mean it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time. No. Wasn't that long ago. And now but the fans are so new that you they don't get it. They don't go back and watch it. They had a while it's like go back and watch the John Fitch fight. Oh man. Yeah prime GSP. He was. Yeah. He was terrifying. Incredible gas tank. Great flow between grappling and striking. Very creative. He put that shit together to best. That's why he had such success taking everybody down. Like his. Yeah man. He would set it up as level change. And he always he ran through every take down. It was never. Yeah. Yeah. He was so good at that shit. He was gonna run you across the cage. George was phenomenal. Farras Ahabi was a big part of that too. Farras Ahabi's a bad motherfucker. Yeah. He's smart. You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns? Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's incredible. Very incredible. Astute. He's so knowledgeable of the game of every aspect of it. His brother is doing well. Yeah. His brother's fighting at the White House. He's fighting Sean O'Malley and I think people are sleeping on him. Well listen. He keeps winning. Yeah. He keeps fucking winning. The one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I'm not sure he won that fight. Me either. Because I think they're not being generous enough with the 10/8s and the 10/7s. They don't do it enough. Not enough. No. When a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious. You know like that. That means a lot. I hate the fact that they don't use it enough all because like Dana was like oh I don't like it. And now the judges are just like no we can't do it because. Listen though scoring system sucks. Yeah. Because we stole it from boxing. It's not. Yes. It doesn't have enough points. For sure. It should be like a you should get like a certain amount of points for different things. But it would be really hard to calculate. Because it would have to be subjective like if Pereira hits you it's way harder than if someone's like you know Paul Craig. Right. No disrespect. Yeah. No disrespect. But you know what I'm saying. The consequences are very different. So if he hits you with the left hook it's different than if Pereira hits you with the left hook. So that's subjective. But in terms of like what happens in the fight you should be counting in submission attempts. You should be counting in takedown attempts. Like who was more aggressive. Who was more defensive. Who implemented their strategy. You should have like a hundred points to work with. Absolutely. They got ten points why are we only using two of them. It's nice. Nine out of ten why. I don't get it. Ten nine rounds that are like could be anybody. And it's ten nine rounds where he dominated. That's nuts. Well see like UFC BJJ uses that. And it works better for that because they're very liberal with the ten eights and ten sevens. They use it a lot. They're like if it's close it's a ten nine. If it's one sided it's automatically a ten eight. So they use it a lot. That makes more sense. That does make more sense. But even in BJJ I would say you'd need more points. You need like it's like the difference between a 70-30 round where a guy's dominating you 70% of the time. And a 51-49 round is fucking huge. Yeah. It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all. Yeah. So like you could win a ten nine round the first round where it's like you're barely ahead. Like maybe I'll give it to you. And then the second round that dude fucks you up. And he gets a ten nine round because you didn't go down. Yeah. But he's head kicking you and you're blocking it. You're getting teeped. Your legs are getting kicked all the time. It's still a ten nine round. That's nuts. No. Just because you didn't go unconscious. Just because you didn't get knocked down. I think it's my ADD is kicking in but we're talking about the close calls. Close scoring. I thought Aljo. I thought he should have got that nod against fucking. Evil Awe. I thought you had too. I didn't think there was a one much question to me. The guy got on the one much question to me. He got one reversal at the end like a minute thirty left. Yeah. And Aljo is winning that whole first round. Yeah. Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert. He could be undefeated at 1:45. Yeah. He's a nightmare. Because if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with Aljo, you got problems. Yeah. That dude gets your back. He's got a death grip. I mean him and Jan ten eight round. Like he was just on his back the entire fucking round. Dominated him in that second fight. And they don't know. How is that not a ten eight round? He's fighting Yusef Salah. Yeah. Yeah. Yusef Salah. And that's on the 25th of April. But I mean, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this. Yeah. Did Aljo over Jan in the second fight, was that like the best anybody's ever done with Jan? Oh, yeah. Straight down. For sure. His control is just so good when it hits the floor. That's the difference between him and Marab. Marab can keep getting you down and up, down and up. Right. Aljo hits the floor. Yeah, you're not getting there. He just needs back exposure. He's one of those, some guys they can't jump up on the back. It's not good for them. They're gonna get tired. Dude, all day long. He'll just go up there, lock that shit on. If he doesn't get you, that's his round. Bro, the Sanhagen fight was a masterpiece. Masterpiece. His grappling is so, so good. Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit. No, this is back take some of the best in the sport, period. Man, they're not a big fan of his. They don't push. How? He's such a nice guy. I know, he does everything right. He's such a nice guy. I think it's the one fight with Jan. I know. You know the Jan fight with the neck, that was, I think that was, turned everybody against him. Those people are wrong. His neck was fucked up. He had to get his disc replaced. I mean, he should have validated the entire thing by whooping his ass in the second fight. But they already decided to hate him. They're stuck on it. They already decided to hate him. He had to get his fucking disc replaced. It was real. It was a real fucking injury. He should be, he could be, he could be a two time champ, a double division champ. I mean, he's, in my mind, he's undefeated at 145. Look what he did to Calvin Cater, which was, Calvin Cater's a beast, but it was, if you didn't know Calvin Cater, if that's just the first fight seeing him, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong. Here, which he obviously does. He's a beast. But Aljo, which is masterful. He, you know what it is, he's good at not getting hit. So it's like, he's not giving you that back and forth. And Longo says, you've seen 20% of what he could do in standing up. Like, I'd ask him something, he's like, he could put his foot wherever he wants it. Like, about a kick or something. He's just really, really talented, man. I hope he gets his shot. If he takes out, you know, Yusef, I hope they give him a shot again. Because I think he could be a two-time champ. Well, listen, he's still a bad motherfucker. Like, he's a nightmare for everybody. Especially if he gets a hold of you. Yeah. But I mean, people look at the one fight losses. They look at the Shawn O'Malley fight. Like, Shawn caught him perfect. That's just how it goes. And you know, his head wasn't really in that. Because he didn't even want to be there. Nope. Why didn't he want to be there? They made him fight. They made him fight. They made him fight that fight. He didn't want to fight. Yeah. They did like a whole documentary on it. Where it was like, they kind of twisted his arm. They'd be like, you gotta do this. And they were... Was he injured? I think he was injured. It was a quick turnaround. Yeah, it was a quick turnaround. He didn't feel he should be forced into, you know... But he thought the numbers... He thought the pay-per-view numbers was gonna make up for it. He thought he was gonna get all this money from it. 'Cause he was like, alright, I'll do it. Shawn O'Malley's gonna bring in the numbers. Then he said, when it was over, he saw the numbers, he was like, if I knew the numbers was gonna be like this, I don't think I'd have did it. Yeah. Really? Yeah. So it didn't do well? It didn't do as well as he thought he was gonna do based on Shawn O'Malley's presence. Listen, man, it takes a lot to get people to pay for something today. There's too much other ways to seal it. This Paramount thing is genius in that regard. Yeah. Is that all you have to do is have that app, which a lot of people have already anyway. Yeah. That's genius. But to make people pay every time to watch fights, like... There's so much to watch today. Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me. It's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight. Yeah. Like, you can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you to fight. So it's a big difference. It's a giant difference. Yeah. Yeah, it's a giant difference. I like that it's on Paramount as a fan, though. Yeah. Save you a ton of money. I used to pay for every one of them. This Netflix thing is nice, too. It's good to see that there's, like, someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, you know, like Netflix. What are your thoughts, guys? Gina versus Rhonda. I think round one submission, Rhonda. Yeah. Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt. I hope not. I don't know what Gina's been doing. You know, I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all. She was recently a little heavy. I can say that. She looks great now. Does she look great now? She looks great. Look, she got in great shape. She got in great shape. She's still, like, 43 years old. Yes. Come on. But the question is, like, what was she doing in those... Was she still training some? That would be my real question. Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I gotta go. I mean, but with the weight loss, with the weight gain that she had, there was no way she was training or doing anything. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, she's back in shape and she obviously is boxing her ass to do that, but how long, like you're saying, was she down? And she has to develop a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever? No, Rhonda's... Her only hope is to keep it on the feet. Rhonda could jump guard on her and I still think she'd be it. She would pull guard and sweep her. Or arm lock her. Her arm locks are amazing. Her arm locks are amazing. They're preposterous. You know? I think there's too many, just too big a level there. Dude Orchick, her arm bars are sick. Remember that Kat Zingano fight? Yeah. She charged at her and she just... Kat threw her. That was the craziest thing ever. Got her in an arm bar, like, instantaneously. Yeah, what a stupid strategy that was. Yeah, she blanked out on that one. So crazy. That was such a sick transition, too. No, but I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that was kind of recent. It did not look good. How recent was it? Do we know? I don't know. I don't know. But it didn't look good. I was just like... It's hard to tell where they're at. I hope this is older. She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something. But also, what were they doing? Were they just working on slow motion shit? Were they just trying to get a movement? Or were they getting in a hard mitt workout? You know what I'm saying? I mean, either way, like, just like, mechanically, it didn't look great. Mechanically. So, I mean, but it could have been... It's like one of them things where, like, this could be like her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up. But who knows? I mean, you know, who knows? Maybe she's... Who knows? You just never know. You hope so. Yeah. I hope it's better than that. Round one submission. I mean, probably right. I mean, come on. I bet, you know, if you had Polymarket, you could make some money on that. There's gonna be a lot of bets on that. It's exciting, though, that Netflix is doing it. That's what I like. I like that there's another place people can go. It'll raise... But how sustainable is this, though? That's my biggest question. Whoever's putting the money up for this is gonna lose their ass, I think. Yeah. You think they're gonna make that money back? Right, but here's the thing. It's Netflix. Yeah. Right? So Netflix has an insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in. Like, every month, people are paying whatever they're paying. It's as high as, like, what, 19 bucks for ad-free? What is it? How much does a Netflix account now? I don't wanna say it's higher. I think it just went up, right? Yeah, they're kinda going up. So think of, "Oh, that money is just coming in every month." They just gotta give people exciting things to wanna watch, and they'll keep making more money. Right. Because more people use Netflix. Like, it would seem like they're gonna lose their ass, but they're not. 'Cause they have a completely different business model. Obviously, I'm not a businessman. $8.99 to $26.99 per month. I'm a terrible, in fact, I'm a terrible businessman. But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit, so they keep tuning in to Netflix. So in that sense, they're not gonna lose any money. 'Cause there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they can watch that fight. Right. So who's on the card now? It's like Felipe Linz versus Ngannou. Yeah. Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz. Right. Oh, and Robles Despain. Despain, you know. Yeah, and Junior Dos Santos. That one is like, ooh. Who's it? Robles Despain. That tall karate combat dude. He's Taekwondo black belt from Cuba. Wait, versus Junior? Yeah. How old's Junior? He's 50 now. Is he 50? No. He's close. But he's in good shape. I actually did it. We spoke at a high school a couple of months ago. Oh, good. Well, I'm glad to hear that. I mean, at least these guys will get an outlet to make some extra money. Yeah. Who doesn't want to see Diaz or Perry? Adriano Moraes is a, you know, that's a, more guys are probably going to school him. But I mean, they got some, they're giving guys some opportunities. So you got to like this. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, it'll be a big show. A lot of people will tune in. Diaz and Perry's going to be fucking bananas. That'll be really fun to watch. Yeah. That's, I mean, that'll be worth the price of it. Yeah. Imagine if I was 10 years ago, that fight would be really amazing. I'm looking at this. It's like if the GL, L, LA went to fucking, it came, came true. That fucking, GFL? Remember that grand ball league? Yeah. No, not everybody. They just stole all their talent. Bro, Diaz versus Perry, guaranteed dogfight. Oh, yeah. Just a guaranteed dogfight. That will not be a boring fight. Who do you think wins that? I think the jujitsu is going to be too much. I kind of think that too. I kind of think Nate might just drag them deeper, right? We're going to see. You know, we're going to see. Oh, it's five rounds. Five rounds. That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I wonder why they agreed on that. Interesting. Yeah. Why do you think they agreed on that? I didn't realize that. Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds? Yeah, it's three. When they first announced this, it said five by five for everything, but they've changed a bit. So it says five by five right there. Is it just five? Yeah, just for those two though. This one does not. Doesn't say that anymore? No. And it also says this is a main event. I mean, I can't imagine if Gina was asking for five rounds. It actually does. There it does. It says it real hard to see it. Yeah, five by five. Right. Yeah. Well, Lorenz Larkin back in the day. Yeah. I remember he fought Neil Magny. He was hitting him with oblique kicks to the chest. And I was like, I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way. Jesus. You ever see that fight? No. I don't remember that fight. Bro, he tuned Neil Magny up. Did he? Lorenz Larkin was a bad motherfucker. I do remember that. He was so sharp. He had a good little run. He was so sharp. His striking was elite. Yeah. And when he fought Neil Magny, you know, Neil Magny's a tough fucking dude. A durable guy. A durable, incredible discipline and endurance. Like that dude's never out of shape. And he was just getting tuned. Look at this. Oof. I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs. That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier, before that, he caught him on the rib cage with it. Spot off. Look at that. That's crazy. He gave him a spotter kick. Damn. That's the second look at it. But right here, you're seeing him. He's blasting him with this kick that nobody throws like that. That's a crazy position to put your hips in. Right? That is crazy. He was sharp. How did this one end? He stopped him. Oh, did he? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, Lorenz was all over him, man. It was one of the prime performances that I've seen of him fight. Yeah, he had a good little run. He had a great run. But during that run, and this was like, he came from Bellator, right? Yeah. Yeah. And when he came over from Bellator, it was like he was still red hot. Yeah. Like red hot. Yeah. Yeah. Two guys that were in Bellator, which is Pitbull and Aaron Pico. They're getting ready to fight in this weekend. Yeah, man. How much time do you think a guy like Pico is supposed to take off after Lerone? We were just talking about that. Because I love his offense, man. He's a little raging bull. Animal. Animal. And strong, powerful. He just got caught. And he got caught perfect. And he was just perfect. That's spinning elbows. I think he got stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that. Yeah. He's been a kid. You don't want to go through your career with one of those. The kid from Kill Cliff. Adam Burricks. Yeah. Adam Burricks. Yeah. He got him with a flying knee. With a flying knee, yeah. Yeah. Damn, dude. You don't want too many of those. That's right. But those put him out, man. You just see him just go boop. Yeah. That Macy Barber one the other day. Whoa. Dude, that was just... One of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history. Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to Macy because I felt so bad. I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, "What the fuck do you think? He's just over there." He was like poking over the fucking face. So crazy. Yeah. He's like, I'm like, get some smell. I'm like, somebody, the cameraman, please get off this. Or somebody talked to the doctor because I don't know what the fuck. He was just over there like, "Man, this is fucked up." I don't think he knew exactly what was going on. He probably has no experience in combat sports, right? He didn't realize that she got knocked out and while she was out cold, she got strangled. Oh, dude. She transitioned so fast. Like, she's out there. She's out cold already and then she gets strangled. Like, that's never happened before. What's crazy is she was kind of still reacting and then when they put her on her back, she just, it was, I don't know what was going on. No, she went limp as she was trying to sit up. She went limp, you see right there. Like, she was trying to get up and then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp. Dude. Dude. See, there's like, there's sea level Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa. When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous. Then this confused doctor. Look at him. Look at him. Right? Hey. Hey. Hey. Crazy. Look at him. He's like, "Are you doing that?" She's kind of coming to there, I think. Yeah, she blinked. She's blinking. But that was just... Holy shit. And the speed that she took her back. Yeah, just left hand, boom, back, choke. Amazing. One shot while she was out still, cracked her again, got her back and choked her all like a lightning bolt. That was super impressive. But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her. I feel like it's been five minutes with us hitting her. Yeah. Left hand, boom, took her back. Took her while, it took her longer, but look at this. Bam. So she's in trouble. Bam, right there. Out cold and then strangled. I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before. No. Cause I mean, she's seen, watch this punch here, that's out cold, right? And then, boom. Sick. Nah, that's crazy. Crazy. Wow. She's tough, man. Oh, man. Fall backwards in front of you after the knockout, you know. Well, so here's the thing. She gets up and when she gets up, I think she faints. Like I think she tries to get up. Just went out again. And then he, Mike puts his arm around her and she's out. Oh, man. I think she fainted. That's just scary. Just scary. And she also had had some problems before with seizures. Yeah. She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield. She had a seizure in the locker room, right? So they still allow her to fight even though she's had seizures? That's pretty crazy. Well, it depends on what's causing the seizures, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good point. If they know it's a medication that she was on, they get her off the medication. Like there's, I don't know what causes seizures. Well, that's just not gonna help the seizures. I'll tell you right now. But it certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting. Yeah, yeah. Right? It would have to fuck with your motivation if you're already having seizures. I wouldn't want to do it. Yeah. And now after that, I wouldn't want to do it. Any time you fight, that's a possibility. Yeah. I mean, look at a guy who never once looked, took anything remotely like that, like Kamaru Usman. And even in a fight where he's just doing so great. And then that's the closest thing I've seen to that, which is when he got stopped with that head kick. Yeah. And you know, that's a possibility any time you make that walk. That's why you got that fucking little feeling in your, you know, before you walk out there. The Kamaru one was nuts too, because John Anik was just saying, because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation. And John Anik said something along the lines of, but that is not the cloth from which he was cut. I know. And then, I mean, that was like the most perfect timing ever. Ever. Like a movie. If you saw that in a movie, you're like, shut up. Because I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke. And then DC was saying it. And then John intervened with, he's not cut from that cloth. Boom. Boom. Head kick. It was nuts. What is that new? Nuts. Russell Crowe's doing a new MMA movie. Yeah. Is that supposed to be the UFC? I think it's supposed to be one. One. I think they did it with one. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if that's going to be good. Yeah, but I mean, like, who's, the fighter's like my age. I'm like, yo, what's going on here? Maybe it's a comeback. Coming back. Like Randy Couture won the title in his 40s. You know? Yeah, man. One has some wild striking fights, man. Yeah. Some of the absolute best stand-up fights in the world are happening on One. I watch it all the time. I never know when that shit's on. Yeah, when is that on? Where are you watching that? This fucking cat out of Dagestan. Do you guys know who I'm talking about? Asadullah Imamazaleev? Bro. This dude is, I think he's 135 pounds. I think that's what he fights at. And he's like six foot one. And just a laser beam striker. Just fucks people up. Like literally might be the best striker in the world. Is it just kickboxing? Yeah. And he's getting in there with Muay Thai. He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KO'ing them. Like three time world Lumpini Muay Thai champions. Damn. Lumpini Stadium guys. This guy is a fucking straight killer dude. And he's from Dagestan and he can wrestle. Damn. You gotta, let's see if you can find like a highlight reel of his KOs. Cause this is just like, get on YouTube. The body shot was nasty. I watch this cat every time he fights. I just can't, he's so fucking accurate and he's so slick. How old is he? He's 22. Damn. Man, I'm telling you this 22 year old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on earth right now. This dude is so impressive. And I'm telling you, he's doing this to dudes who are world champions. Oh shit. He's taking out world champion kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai fighters. They're putting him in there with these fucking assassins and he's making them all go night night. Oh, damn. Oh. Bro, you gotta see it in real speed. Like, you see his real movements. It's so impressive. Is he with Habib and him? I don't know where he's training out of, but he's from Dagestan. Bro. He looks like Zabit. Yes. Yeah. Like a little bit more robust Zabit. Ooh, robust Zabit. But it's like, it's different. Like Zabit had more of a, you know, he had an incredible style, but it was almost like more Taekwondo-ish. This guy's pure Muay Thai, but he just fucks people up, man. He's accurate too. Oh, he's spinning heel kicks, everything. Knees to the body. But it's the combinations, the way he's throwing them. He just finds these openings on people with this precision that you're like, motherfucker, man. It keeps the pressure going. Yeah. He keeps the pressure on too. He's just flatlining folks. One after another flatlining people. Oh, man. Bro, he's very fucking impressive. And again, very impressive against world championship caliber Muay Thai fighters. These are not scrubs that he's fighting. Damn. And one's putting these fights on all the time. And I was trying to tell Dana this. I was like, if you guys had like UFC striking, do you know how fucking exciting that would be? If just Muay Thai with MMA gloves on. Well, they should do that. They're doing the BJJ now. 100%. They're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground? Boo. Yeah. These guys never go to the ground. Right. It's just all stand-up kickboxing. I mean, kickboxing is so much more brutal than boxing. Way more brutal. Yeah. It just didn't get a fair shake in America. I know. It's not that it's not exciting. It's the most exciting aspect of the UFC. Other than a great submission like Alexa Grasso after a knockout. That's like the most exciting. Right. Hey. Brought to you by Visible. Let's be honest. Wireless can feel like a world of traps. Expensive bills. Tacked on fees. And promises that just don't hold up. You start to feel stuck. Don't fall for the trap. Escape to Visible. The ultimate wireless hack. Get unlimited data and hotspot powered by Verizon. One line for just $25 a month. Taxes and fees included. Get great coverage and a reliable connection with Visible. Plus, for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just $20 a month for one year using code FRESHSTART. Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at Visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers subject to change. See Visible.com for planned features and network management details. I could... People bitch about Comzat. I could watch him do that to Dracus all day long. I don't give a shit. That's masterful. Masterful. Get him off you. Yeah, Drake, get up. People are like, "Oh, that's a shame and he doesn't take chances." Dude, get... He's not like he's not trying to beat the shit out of him. He's getting him tied up and he's beating him up and he's just... He's working him over. I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the crucifix? What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, that's Dracus' problem. Dracus need to get him... Yeah, 100%. And I don't believe in stand-ups at all, period. I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls. If someone does a foul and then you have to stand up, take a point away from him, maybe then you stand him up. Yeah. You shouldn't reward a guy for having, like, shit defense. If the dude on the bottom is the one that failed, put him back where they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, definitely. But other than that, why are you letting people stand up? Why? Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground? Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds and catch his breath. Yeah. You know, like, what the fuck do you want? Yeah. Like, figure out how to get up. Yeah. Bottom people just have to be better. Also, you know how to fix that? Here's how you fix that. Knees to the head to a downed opponent. Absolutely. Absolutely. Then it's like, it's all out of the... Yeah. Wrestlers? Then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous. Right, man. Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix with that shit. Didn't you see the Smashing Machine? Yeah, bro. Did you like the Smashing Machine? I did. It was good. I did. I enjoyed it too. I thought The Rock was amazing. I thought, like, his acting, like, you didn't think it was The Rock. You know? I didn't even know it yet. You thought it was Mark Kerr. Really? Like, he even got a forehead thing. Yeah. Like, he got, like, rubber put on his forehead or whatever the fuck it is. To give him a little, like, yeah, make him more Neanderthal. Yeah. A little Cro-Magnon. Yeah. Give him a little Frankenstein forehead. It was almost, scene by scene, it was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary. It was really good. The documentary, it's like, the same shots, the same story. So, if you've seen the documentary, which was great. Yeah, same. Kerr was a great guest. I had him in the podcast. He was fun. Yeah. He was a really cool guest. No kidding. Yeah, he was really fun. And just real intelligent. Like, easy to talk to. Like, where does he live now? Like, I forget. Is it Arizona? Bro, I saw him in early UFC's when I was a backstage interviewer. He submitted Dan Bobish with his chin to his eye. I remember that. I remember that, too. That was crazy. I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene, when the old Ranger Stott needed to face the face. Yeah, that guy. I remember Rip Rules as well. We were about to find out. Morty Heienstein or something like that. The karate. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. My favorite Mark Kerr fight was against Fabio Gergele down in Brazil. Oh. That was crazy. That's where he got his name. Yeah, man. That's my shit. Man, I was a big Fabio fan. I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy after that beating he took and he never fucking thought about quitting. Crazy. Yeah. Headbots and everything. Who said yes to that? Yeah, right? Let me pull you guys aside. That would explain physics. Yeah. And now I need to introduce you to steroids. That was to combine physics and steroids and like, no, you're not fighting Mark Kerr. If you look at the time, that's when Jiu Jitsu still had that mystique about it. It's true. You know, back when they weren't losing. But that kind of killed, but like, that's when it like the beginning of the end of like the guard started for MMA. It was like that. Cause like those big wrestlers were just like, oh, you mean all I gotta do is block his hips and he can't do shit? And I can headbutt you? Right. There was, do you remember when Mario Sperry fought Igor Zinovian? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Mario Sperry is like one of the first Jiu Jitsu black belts to lose in MMA. That's right. Yes. We all thought Jiu Jitsu black belts were invincible. Right. And Mario Sperry was elite. He was a really good black belt. Yeah. And so he fought Zinoviev and Zinoviev stopped him. I remember that. Yeah. And Mario was doing everything right. Mounting him correctly. But then he would just do one of those weird, like super big bridges. And then his, because he had endurance and he was able to just withstand his attack, he ended up cutting them or something towards the end. Yeah. It was a big cut. Speaking of old school guys, guess who was at the UFC last week? Murillo Bustamanch. Oh. Yes. He was cornering Jose DeLano. Only a guy to make somebody tap twice in a world title defense. Yes. Made him tap twice. Yeah. He also fought 45 minutes. He fought Tom Erickson. Tom Erickson. For 45 minutes. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Beautiful. Adele too, honestly, in that fight. He might have, yeah. He was a bad motherfucker. It was really good boxing and insane jiu-jitsu, but really good boxing. One of the first guys from that Carlson Gracie team along with Vitor. Good wrestler too. He had good takedowns for a jiu-jitsu guy too. But that's my point. He's at the UFC just cornering Jose Delano, and no one knows who he is. And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy. He's one of my favorite fighters of all time, but no one knows who he is. That's crazy. He's a legend. But, you know, there's so many people now. It's like time just goes on. What a bunch of killers Carlson had back in the day, man. Dude, I was at his school in 96 when all that was going down. Right before Vitor got into the UFC. Sperry, Laborio, Carlo Barreto. Yeah, Carlo was training there. Sergio Cohen. He had a bunch of beasts, man. And we'd watch them all train together. Mario Sperry was telling us a story about how when he was just starting out in jiu-jitsu, he made his girlfriend sit there. And he just put her in triangle after triangle after triangle. She kept complaining. That's hysterical. Watching TV, just practicing triangles on his girlfriend. That's hilarious. We were lucky. We were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did. You know, and like even back at Henzo's, and you had Henzo. Yeah. You had Hein coming through. You had Half coming through. You had Matt. You had Ricardo. You had Sean Alvarez. Like, we just had a ton of killers, you know. And back then, it was, I always joke about the tap-out shit. But if you saw somebody at an airport in the 90s with a tap-out shirt on, you were like, you know, where are you trained? Right, right, right. Then now, then it went to like JC fucking pennies, which is cool because it was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Except Forever 21. But it was pretty wild. I had some tap-out shirts. Everybody did. Right. Those guys were fun. Yeah, definitely. It was a weird time. That time of MMA, if you go back to like, even when like you and I first met, I was like, what year was that? 2001 we met. Crazy. That's crazy. Because you weren't a commentator yet. No. But I fought Kelly Delonte, and you gave me a nice shout-out. I remember. You were like, we need more of that jungle jiu-jitsu like Matt Serra did. When you toured at Baja. And I'm like, oh! They showed that up. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that was 2001. Because I mailed you a shirt. Yeah, that's right. Thank you. And then you called the academy. And I'm like, oh, what's up? That was funny, man. Nice. It was crazy. But jiu-jitsu was so physical then. Like, it was a physical thing. Now it's so intellectual, and like these nerds think they own it. Autistic kids got all jiu-jitsu. And now they think they own it. And it's like, yo, what are you talking about? They start talking about technique. It's like they're talking chess moves. Yeah. If you don't know the names, and he's like, you don't know that? It's like, dude, I know that's... Like, what's the... When you're going for the... They call it the K-guard. I'm like, shit, man. I've been doing that since the 90s, man. Right. At first, I'm like, oh, what's the thing? They're like, you don't know the K-guard? And then they show it. I go, well, yeah. I just never called it the fucking K-guard. But it's funny. You bring up Marilla Bustamante. We talked about Fabio Gagel. Back then, and I know jiu-jitsu evolved, but if you take those guys, you put them in the Abu Dhabi submission tournament, you put them in the BJJ, IBJJF, and you put them in an MMA fight, their jiu-jitsu is the same. It carries over to all... And they may not win, but they're competitive. And they can have a well-around game. They can have it across the board where somebody just used to scissoring or just used to their legs. You know what I mean? That can transfer over. Here's what fucks my head up. If you, gun to my head, said to me, who do you think has the best jiu-jitsu in MMA right now? My head would go, Charles Oliveira. I was getting ready. That would be my first. But Islam Makachev finished him on the ground. So how can I say that? Right. So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about elite expressions of jiu-jitsu on the ground, one of the most dangerous guys off his back, Oliveira. Oliveira is so dangerous everywhere. If he gets on top of you, you're fucked. I mean, it was just that Max Holloway's defense is so tight and he's so tough that he didn't get finished. Right. For sure. How crazy it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down. I mean, Max, nobody took Max down like that. He manhandled him. It was bananas. But I think Max is a guy that is like, he can fight at 45. I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45. But at 45 in his prime, it was a perfect weight class for him. When Oliveira was fighting at 45, he was killing himself. He fought like, he just was fatigued easier. But then when he went up to 55, then he became Charles Oliveira. It was really all at 55 where he made his mark. He tried that shit though with Ilya. He did try to take him down. He tried to go. Yeah, Ilya. Ilya is a different animal. He's on another level. For sure. He's on another level. Super well-rounded and people haven't really even seen that yet. He's on a level where I can't wait for his next fights. When he's fighting, I'm like, what is he going to do now? Yeah. Because I think he's getting better. I think the dude is like, their approach to it, there's a documentary on YouTube. They're talking about how they break down all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff that they train in. These dudes are on another level. I mean, when you think about it, if a fight between Ilya and Islam were to happen, think about the magnitude of that. Not only just star power, but just in terms of skill. Oh my God. Breaking that down. Oh my God. In terms of skill. Oh my God. Like two of the best skilled fighters of all time. Of all time. Yeah. That would be an insane fight. And I just really would like it if it happened to be at 55. Like Ilya at 170 is a little unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. At 55 would be better. Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck 96. Yeah, for sure. Fucking jacked. I think Armin should be spoken about too. 100%. He's a fucking beast. Yeah. And look how he fought. 100%. And he had a pretty good fight with Islam back when he, how many years ago? Yeah, right. He was like 21. Yeah. I mean, he was, I mean, scrambles. Although I do have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think, I think Olivera would have beat him in that fight. Because Olivera threatened him with submissions. That is true. A couple times. That's true. A couple times. Like, that to me is more valuable than holding a guy down. Did Armin threaten he had an arm choke with him? Well, no. He was kind of on the run. But he was kind of on the run more often than we remember. Armin was? Yeah. In terms of like inside the guard of Olivera. Like, he was kind of, you know, he was on the run. It's dangerous in there, man. It's not like everybody else is. Like, there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig. Bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking triangle. Like, that guy's beating world champions. Yeah. You think about it. He beat Jamal. Broke his arm. Jamal, he beat, uh. Uncle Lyev. Uncle Lyev, yeah. Stopped him with like one second to go in the third round with a triangle. Yeah, yeah. He might have one of the best. What was that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle? Dustin, uh. No, English guy. Yeah. I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh, my God. It's going to drive me nuts. The little skinny English guy. Yeah. Yeah. He like was all triangles. Like, 11 triangles in a row. Yeah. He had this one move. And if he can get you to the ground and latch his legs around you, you're a fucksville. Paul Sass. Yeah, Paul Sass. Yeah, Paul Sass. I was going to Paul Allen. Shout out to Paul Sass. Yeah, he was a beast. He'd get you in that triangle. You're fucked. And Fabricio Redoom's another one, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was, he triangled Fedor when Fedor was Fedor. I always tell people, if you want to look at one of all-time greats, and heavyweight, don't look at all losses and shit. Stop right here in the prime. Who has tapped out more legends than Fabricio Redoom? Minotauro? Fedor? I mean, that is crazy. Just those two. Cain Velasquez? Yeah, that's true. He's tapped out all the legends. That's true. And they weren't past the prime either. Fedor was securely in his prime. 100%. I remember watching that live thinking, oh my God. Oh my God. He ran right into it. He ran right into that. He literally did jump into it. Brilliant. His jiu-jitsu was like scary off his back. Yeah, Fedor had no respect for the guard. Just, you know, was trying to take his head off and just fed it to him. Yeah, man. You can't do that with a guy. Not a guy like that. That's a different level. And plus, he hit Colby in the head with a boomerang. Remember that? There's nothing wrong with that. Give me some points for that as well. That was my favorite video of all time. Because he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag. And Colby was reaching out for the bag. Yeah. You got to give him some points for that too. Out of all the people that I thought I was definitely going to see on the White House lawn, it was going to be a Colby Covington fight. I was like, how did you not have a Colby Covington fight at the White House? Man, I don't know. He's like super supportive of Trump, wears Trump hats everywhere. Right. And he's not a fighter. That's crazy. They didn't hook him up? I don't know. How did that not happen? I think Bo Nickel wanted to fight him. Yeah, but that's a different weight class. Bo Nickel's a big dude. At 85. He's an 85-er. Yeah. That's a, you know, Colby's not a big 70. Is he something to fight anybody? Is he a great size for 70? Who, Colby? Yeah. No. No. I know why he was going to do a wrestling match. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Yeah, I think Chris, a little big for him for wrestling. Yeah, I think that should go well for Wyman. Who is Joaquin fighting next? Brady. Sean Brady. Sean Brady. Is that in Miami? No. No, that's in Jersey. In Jersey. That's right. That's right. I'll be out of Philly next week with Brady. Shout out. Joaquin was on a tear until Kamaru got a hold of him. Shout out to Brady. That's one of his jerks. Out of the two guys that are, like, most worthy for a shot at the welterweight title, I mean, you got to think Ian Gary, but you also got to think Kamaru because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend, right? One of the greatest welterweights of all time. And then he just beats Joaquin Buckley like that? Yeah. I mean, like, Joaquin Buckley's a fucking monster. Buckley was on the fast rise until Kamaru. He beat the shit out of Kobe. Bro. Beat the shit out of Kobe. Bro. Beat the shit out of him. Joaquin doesn't get tired either, which is crazy. Like, you look at his physique. Yeah, you think he'd get tired. That guy's going to get cast out. He just, he keeps that gas going for three fucking rounds. Full clip. Yeah, believe me. I know. I've been watching him. Right? Been watching him for months now. No, Sean Brady, I think, uh, that's a little fun. Old turtle shell. Yeah. That back of his is so preposterous. He's staying at that weight, right? Yeah, he's not going down. Yeah. What about Olberg and Jiri this weekend? You know what, man? If you're looking at it on paper, if you just watch their movements, Olberg is really fast. He's really accurate, um, and he's slick, and he's a big, tall motherfucker with great skills. Jiri creates chaos. Yes. And in that chaos, you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond when the guy's still there, when you crack him, and he's all over you, and he's doing wild shit. He's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head. He's a maniac. Yep. But he's not faking it. Oh, no. He believes everything he says. Yeah. That dude, that's how that dude really lives. Yeah. Like, he really does. Hit trees in the woods he goes out there with a maki war fucking he does all the hard style Japanese shit And you know he spends time in the woods by himself alone. He does uh he swims under the ice He does the yeah, I saw that I actually saw a video. I don't fuck that dude Yeah, I mean you have to find where the hole is and you gotta come back We had some people in there too just in case he isn't that crazy listen man Just look at that dude his ancestors came over on a boat And they had fucking swords Yeah, hopped off and started slicing all them guys that dude is a motherfucking Viking whatever he is that war those warrior jeans like that's in that That dude takes you to hell. He takes he just can't do it without it. He's got his way. That's it. That style just doesn't work with Pereira Wondering does he walk into one here because he's gonna get hit? Khalil beat the living shit out of him for two rounds and then over Ran out of gas. Hoberg's a big guy too Khalil's not a big you know If you look if you look at him in comparison to some of the other guys in that weight class he can make 85 Here's it. Here's one of people are sleeping on Merzah Conoff. Yeah I'm leaning Palo's Palo's way I swear. You almost sold me on that yesterday, but Merzah Conoff man Undefeated. Undefeated. Let me tell you something. 37 and fought nobody. I'm riding it. Who's he saying? That's true. He put Rockish to sleep though. He put Rockish to sleep in the first round. Yeah, dude He's slick. He does shit in there. I'm like he calls himself the professional and that's like he seems like a hitman like some Russian hitman Yeah, it comes to fucking kill people. He believes in his power. That's a fact. It's not just his power man It's his skills where I look at him. I'm like this is a smart guy like he moves like a smart guy Everything's calculated. Everything's technical. He's really hard to hit clean. He's a slick character and he does shit too He overreaches but he overreaches I think on purpose to get reads off you if he senses the guys moving away He'll come in with big shots that doesn't it to try to get a get you to react and then counter like that Right hook that he hit him with was almost like a jab yeah that he dropped Rockish with yeah Just saw them saw this movement that Rockish kept doing over and over again it bang Came in there with like a straight right jab almost like a hook jab palo's got a chin look at that watch that again Look how slick this is. Yeah We just he's a killer man. We don't know what Paul Acosta is gonna look like at 205 though. He's never fought it that well Didn't my once we didn't wait for 85. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he forced Marvin Vittori. He was like, no, this fight is at 205 now Is he fucked his mind up? I think he definitely did I mean he but he looked the best he's looked his last fight like he copy love He just ran through him dude you go back to when he was when he was walking people down like walk down yo Oh, yeah, I remember it was a bizarre. I remember when he saluted Paul you well remember the fight as my favorite part Yeah, it was a good great fight, but nobody walks down you about Romero like I'm kidding There's that photo that one photo of him head kicking you all and you know all his face is like all distorted and you're like How did he take that shot this is neck? You know his neck is fused. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's all one thing so it doesn't move. It's connected to his skull. That's crazy Yeah, and then nuts and he's coming at that photo that photos bonkers imagine how tough you got to be to be yo L Romero and Take that to the head when you know your neck has been through an insane operation. We have metal Connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head start they implanted monster traps to hold his He's a such a freak. Yeah, he's an athletic freak and you see just for the specimen. Yeah 49. Yeah, and a lot of people disputed the decision They thought he should have won. Yeah In Russia. Yeah I don't know how he does it. He looks great. Yeah, I don't know how he does it if you told me was 32. I believe he's alright Did RAF as well Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, who would he be Pat down? And then he came back and he came back when he lost the next one. Yeah, but he was wrestled a legit dude Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armin. Oh, yeah, I can't believe how good he is as a wrestler. Yeah, who's the duty? Tech fault? Georgie. Georgie. No, no, no, the the Lance. Oh Lance Palmer. That's right. Lance Palmer. Yeah, Lance Palmer is a legit wrestler. For sure. Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level. He's never wrestled guys at my level. Armin goes up there and deck falls him. Bro, Armin is legit. Giorgio did better. Yeah. But even Giorgio, like you watch those videos that he does. Yeah. It's like $100 to me now. Yeah, $1,000 or whatever. Whatever it is. Yeah. Armin is a fucking bad man, dude. He's a bad man. I know. Yeah. If you wanted to fight for Ilya at 55, that's a very interesting. For sure. 100%. Very interesting. For sure. Because he's hard to hit. He's very slick and tactical. Super flexible. Like, you ever seen those weird mobility exercises he does with twists and shit with weights? I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy flexibility. He's definitely in his prime, man. He can't waste his life away right now. Stop headbutting people. Yeah, just do the right thing because you are in your prime right now and it doesn't last forever. Stop fucking around. He might already be champ if he could keep it together outside of the cage. 100. You know what I mean? Right? Like if the, Who knows what would have happened in the Olivera fight? It was a proper fight a five-rounder, you know He's staying busy though. It's not like he's on the couch. He's staying real smart. I mean he's doing those videos with things Yeah, yeah, he put Mokaev to sleep a couple weeks ago here. Oh, that was a little too much. That was a lot. Yeah Mokaev's a 125-er. Yeah, I know. But like he kept it whenever they keep it on when the guy's already sleeping for too long It's like yeah, what are you what's going on here? You know, you gotta know he's out the fuck's happening. Maybe some unkind words were exchanged That's kind of my fault process doesn't like each other sure that happened Mokaev is a hothead Yeah, he's been known to say some things kicked out of the UFC for what happened with him? I heard he was just like mean to people like mean to the staff That's what I heard he was just like mean to the staff. Oh, I wasn't even told I was talking about when he did it to a streamer I'm not talking about that fight. Oh, we're talking about it. No, no, no I'm talking about him doing it to like it. Just putting up some buddy that sleep of his friends guys with his other I don't think I saw it. It was him on a couch and he put the guy to sleep. This is a regular Joe. Armin did this? Yeah, man Jamie And he held that shit on for an extra how too many seconds look at this watch this No, no, I'm telling you. Do you tell me if you think it's too long? That guy's neck makes me sad, but now look to know he's gonna do that to him now. I'm gonna have to see this Now ready, let's see now he's out, right? He lasted a long time. Yo What the fuck? He's out already. Let me find out. That's really crazy. That's really crazy. Yeah, that's so unnecessary. That's what I'm saying. What the fuck? Yeah, that's that's a lot worse than I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, sorry guys. I hate to bring the room down, but I'm gonna do this. That's the crazy thing is Armin knows he was out right away. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Also that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked. I felt sad for what he was gonna do to it when I saw his neck. His neck is making me feel sad because I know that's gonna hurt. That fucking gorilla, that dude's got a clamp on him, man. Little fuckers having soup for a week after that. Yeah, right? What's the problem? Armin's fucking grip is so incredible, man. I'm just very impressed with him and very impressed with his grappling. I just wish he could keep it together. Yeah, I mean, I mean his striking is not bad neither. Like he's okay. His first fight with Islam was very close. Yeah, very close. First fight in the UFC. I don't even think he got a full camp. Probably not. I think it was a short notice fight. right and he fought very well you know he's he's at the it's just like crazy that up's have kept him from being at the time the missing the title fight was the big one yeah that was the craziest one like his back hurt the day before like come on it's crazy yeah and you make her not till moicano go out there and you know not not having prepared for him right yeah moicano look good against duncan yeah yeah i like what he gets on that mic too he says he's awesome i wish he would have started talking even earlier like i always liked the guy but he's fucking hilarious he might be the best in the business right now he's funny man he's just not getting enough mic time he needs more mic time when he gets in the mic time money fucking moicano their podcast he's good you know he's good on there with him and i think gilbert you know they all fucking bullshit well that was the thing he's he's doing some streams on in he's doing them in english and in portuguese but the portuguese is doing better for him okay and he's like i'm making money off youtube now like so i don't care anymore yeah i i have my money like i have a big stream of revenue coming in from youtube subscribe to my channel he's like hey me he's a character you need that you need some personalities in there that's like yeah he's good too remember like his fight with uh benois san denis oh yeah right he murked him right and mark them san denis is on his way to potential that looks real good real good real good you can't judge him on that short notice i know what do you guys think of hook it's stay so fun I think it's fine man I don't get it man I don't get it talking shit it's not it's not witty like it ain't funny it ain't witty it's looks like he's trying too hard exactly I love it no I don't get it he's like a pro wrestler it's like pro wrestling bro you talk that guy he's a smart dude he knows what he's doing he's being a goof and here's the thing about people that act really goofy and stupid you kind of you're full of shit like they can trick you they can trick you you think he's gonna be Curtis I don't know man Curtis is a lot you know it's a serious early in his career Curtis has a lot of power he's a big fucking gonna be a better wrestler probably a lot of MMA experience but hook it's a hard dude to solve he's a really good wrestler and he's fucking hyper aggressive and he's got definitely he's fast he's athletic he's he's a one of the guys that I have my eye on you think he can make 205 or you think he should I mean well heavyweights light so perhaps maybe stay there but really we're just waiting for Gable yeah yeah he's getting Roman all of I think is wrestling him and let him do that I'd be like what if you blow your ACL yeah what are you crazy why are you doing this you're gonna be the heavyweight champion of the UFC they gotta be paying and Romanoff's a big dude man yeah yeah yeah I mean look I think Gable I think he'll be fine but when you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson in MMA like when Mike Tyson was coming up that's what I think of when I see him yeah I'm like how do you deal with that right how the fuck do you deal with that he moves like a cat he's 240 pounds Olympic gold medalist and he can KO you smart ass guy in his corner he's got John Jones as a mentor yeah are you fucking crazy fight IQ John's you know the highest one of the smartest guys yeah you got that guy in your corner and everybody's saying I mean he's on the only guys that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast hmm I was like I gotta talk I mean he's accomplished I think good enough anyway yeah fucking Olympic gold medalist NCAA champion gotta be mid-20s oh he's young he's young and he they're doing it smart you know they gave him one of those what do they call it dirty boxing yeah dirty boxing fight oh yeah dude did you see he jumped over the rope like it was nothing it was pretty sick he's such an athlete just stood there and leapt over the ropes after he won and landed perfectly no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah dude he won the NCAA championships like he can do like round offs and bro like the shit like literally boom boom boom like a gymnast it's fucking crazy and I guarantee you that attribute that's we get tripped to the speed that he has and covering distance he's dangerous man watch this watch when he goes over this rope this is crazy damn BJ pin jumping out of the pool right yeah exactly that is crazy he just stuck the landing and started twirling effortlessly he's a monster dude real hard problem for people to wrestle named Gable you better fucking be good yeah and named after Dan Gable after Dan Gable yeah so he's been wrestling since he's a toddler and he's just such a fucking athlete and so smart just dedicated they're doing it smart too they're not just jumping him into the UFC right away he's getting famous outside the UFC that's the way to do it for sure that way you try to bring him along as much as you can yeah fucking fuck your 10 and 10 come on son well when they sign him they gotta get they're gonna give him more than that but the thing is you don't yeah he ain't getting some people are of the opinion that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early because it'll ruin their motivation I mean there's truth to that but I mean it's not who's that for you to say though you know I want my money exactly yeah you don't get to determine that I want my money right guess what I think the cream will still rise to the top I think the guys that are dedicated that have a lot like Floyd Mayweather when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars would still never drink and run home from the club from the club so the people driving his rolls So crazy running behind it. Yeah, look at look at Armin, man. That guy's got money. Yeah, give a shit kind of private jet He's just Armin's got a private jet at least he's always on a private jet seems He's got some cash his family has tons of money. Yeah, but he still has the desire to be the best Yeah, yeah, I mean see the in you or it's not with that, you know, I think maybe that's why he can't get his attitude together To perhaps right doesn't need it. Yeah, a bit spoiled in that way, right? Yeah, who's disciplining him? You know what I mean? He runs his town. I'm sure what do you guys think about Hamza and Strickland? I? Well, let me tell you this comes down this comes down to Strickland's motivation Well, I mean the guy be fucking more Yeah, but I mean he's worked with him before I mean they I know they say that comes out submitted him But if you hear Strickland talk about it, they were doing a batch of drills when you're starting on the started on his back I mean come on actually, but I think when they moved around I think He feels pretty confident with it. He's a hard guy to keep down Shawn. Yeah, and Cardio is gonna be who made comes out look human Gilbert Burns Kamara Usman. I mean they made him look human, you know, and Drake is Again, not you don't want to see that rematch, but take the fifth but in that fifth round He he did get into some decent positions. He just got reversed right away I mean Shawn if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher. He's you know, I mean I'll stay on him or if he's hurt at all He's durable. I mean and everybody's saying how underrated his grappling is the guys that are working with him So I I mean it's that's all I've heard too and he's so hard to hit man. He's got a weird style It's very weird he fucks you up and he's really good at moving back away from he's circling out while the hands are in your face Yeah, it's weird. He also throws like looping shots on purpose Sometimes like you would think it's bad technique, but he's like finding a way around your guard. Yeah, he's catching you with weird stuff And his fucking jab is on point That's it. Did you did you were you know, where's you come out? No, I was there for that and you could hear it Like you don't always hear that you man You could hear the thud in his jab when fluffy was blocking him and it was hard. He was making his kicks in there Well, he's gonna watch that and he wasn't getting hit man. The thing about him if you if you watch him when he's on point He's so fucking hard to hit he just fucked up with Alex. You just can't make any mistakes It seems like everybody fucks up with Alex Negotiate with you. You fuck up is over. Do you do you think that I do you think that translates to heavyweight with gone? Well, I don't think so. I don't I think gone is a little bit too. I think scary would decision like him Good chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his way to yeah, but that's what I'm saying like scott is gone is gonna like if he Mixes it up with him. I think Alex will fucking could put him out. Here's one things gone hasn't been 185 pounds since he was 12, right? Yeah I mean, that's a big oh, he's heavyweight athletic moves like a cat and he's got world-class striking skills man that Tom Aspinall fight that first round opened up a lot of eyes like he look fucking good man. Opened eyes all right I feel bad for Tom man because you Talk about a guy that got the shit into the stick. Yeah, I'm knuckle deep in his fucking eyes to surgeries. Everybody's like I walk it off I Really was I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact You know I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people like what kind of injuries can be sustained from this? They're permanent look at Michael Bisping still can't see out of his right eye You can't you can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see it's crazy It's crazy to ask the guy's eyes been injured if he gets hit again, it could rupture who knows who knows what kind of damage you have So who do you think was irresponsible? We're sorry gone. Yeah, I mean but in terms of handling the situation afterwards you think it was Tom's Well, I think all or the UFC for not being like get this back on it If I was doing a press conference afterwards what I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eye pokes are Yeah, but I think we've neglected some simple solutions, you know, and I think there's there's got to be a solution That we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes point deduction right away point deduction is the easiest Yeah one I you touch someone's eyeball with your fingers well unless it's a complete scramble. Yeah doing this his head happens to be there Yeah, maybe if you're doing this when the guys coming in and your fingers go in his eyes one point every fucking time every fucking time for sure No, no judges discretion. Yeah, no, you know, no referees discretion poking the eye out one point did you ever ask Dana about the pride gloves? What happened to him I did? Um, you know, I don't they should own that? I don't remember the heck right. That's good. The best stuff is Trevor Whitman right just I mean a little bit of that's what I was trying to broker Something and I might still be able to do that to try to figure out a way to just like those gloves are perfect The knuckles curve over your hands are in this position. Yes, it does not impede your grappling It's easy to do that if you want to but the natural position is like this So if you're doing this it's because you wanted to do that It's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open like a lot of people complain about now They can just some mad scientist on this here's the mad scientist cover the tips of the fingers you don't use them anyway true Nobody does this right? So if you don't if you're always grappling like this, right? Yeah, so cover it with like a mitten. Yeah little mittens like a leather So it's your thumbs are free so you still have some potential eye pokes from thumbs mm-hmm, but that mitigates a lot of it and you Completely stop all this stuff because now you have a solid thing. Yeah, it's not gonna go knuckle deep in one finger goes in one fingers on your Eyebrows and it's just fucking digging in that's crazy that would all stop if you had a mitten Well, I mean there's not a lot of eye pokes in bare knuckle Right, right that is interesting and it's because they're always like this. Yeah, cuz they're notice true It's these guys they get in there and they're just like yeah, so the way to stop it really I mean, it's take away points and guys will be like this more. Yeah, I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in Just if you just think about MMA with gloves on it was it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns Maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things. That's what it is. It's like they're trying to like avoid the takedown and everything And blocking kicks. Yeah everything so that's why you're doing this because like Muay Thai guys do this all the time Boxing guys very rarely do that. No very rarely. Yeah unless they're showing off and they're about to hit you with a big right hand Hey, I Deontay Wilder, right? Yeah, he'll he'll be yeah old scream. I'll say why would literally like hold his fist in front of your face and then wing one wing a nuclear bomb at your head I Think you just gotta discourage guys to close your hands cover the fingers. Does he fight we Joshua? I don't know. I Don't know thought I heard something about that. That's a tough fight He's too skinny for that at this point. He looked good in the Chisora fighting moments. There was moments. He said I love you and then Chisora said I love you too. Oh, and then he hit him Deontay said he backed off on him because he saw he was hurt and he wanted him to go home to his family. I love you too He fucking knocked him to the roof. Deontay did ayahuasca And I think a lot of times when a straight-up assassin like Deontay Wilder meets God Oh, yeah, it takes a lot of that mean out of your heart. Oh, you need a little that mean to land those haymakers You gotta be angry true. Yeah, you don't want to be a half a hippie when you're going in there You want to talk about one punch power though that guy might be the greatest of all time Deontay he was like damn close 48 knockouts. Yeah 49 fights Was not a great technical boxer he started late in life that right hand just was fucked Thor's hammer was dropping on people's heads Teddy Alice always calls it the eraser mistakes you make that right hand erases them all I always wanted to see him fight got in Gano That would have been wild that would have been the fight to make that's happening gone who would have been the fight to me to bomb it at each other they could actually still do that Why not they could still do that like in Gano if you want to look at it from a business standpoint man that guy's killed it right? Yeah Went over got that crazy contract with the PFL he got a chance to fight Tyson Fury knocks him down becomes a legend Then gets a big money fight with Anthony Joshua that doesn't go so good well, and then he has the his reintroduction to MMA Fights that dude Hennon right this six and a for a million guy takes him down smashes him beats him down So he made what 20 million in that fight something crazy like that he had a crazy contract right yeah, and he had a contract where his opponent got two million Yeah, who does that yeah? How do you not love the guy? I know you're not love that right? He puts it into his opponent must make at least two million dollars. Yeah No, no, no, and now he's got to be making a lot for this Netflix Netflix thing They got to pay him because they need legit names yeah, and you know Felipe Linz he fought at light heavyweight in UFC, right? Yeah, yeah, I worked with him a bit at top team And I mean I just this is a big moment for him. It's all I can say like I don't know how he's gonna do it's a big moment for him Yeah, I'm happy Nate is making that money my Perry - I'm happy for them. Yeah, I heard those guys are getting paid It's nice because this is this is a thing where if a fighter is in contract negotiations They have their last fight on the contract and they decide not to fight or not to sign until after the fight Yeah, they do make that decision which legally they can do right? Yeah, and also no Yeah, and big so showing knockout for sure and then you know you come over to Netflix and make what 12 Yeah a fight that's nuts and that forces everybody forces everybody's hand. That's what business is supposed to do That's how it's supposed to operate. It's good. That's what's good for the fighters. That's the most important thing and that's good writers But that's but that's just like that's why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable. I hope so too Yeah, because like if they just do a one-off or say again, I'm a terrible businessman. Yeah, I'm terrible at it. Yeah, me too, but Just give the money to the fighters. They they they're the ones who fight right without that you got nothing right? Everybody's making plenty of money. Yeah, come on It's gonna be big though for sure this thing Everybody's gonna watch it. I think a hundred percent. It'll be huge because it's everybody has Netflix. They're gonna watch it. It's gonna be crazy Ronda could become a superstar again. Well, she's already a superstar, but I mean if she wins again then people start talking about like maybe Ron is gonna Come back to the UFC and then maybe Ron is like a WWE moment Ronda and Dana shake hands on a stage with like Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them Ronda Kayla Harrison White House lawn number two next next summer. Oh, I Don't think she would do well in the UFC, but this is great for her. She's done with the WWE and all that stuff Yeah, I bet it's probably hard for a I mean, she probably enjoyed the job It was a great job made her a lot of money, but it's probably hard for an elite competitor to do these stage things I mean, she's an elite competitor because I instinctively she just wants to do yeah compete 100% just want to fake compete Yeah, I mean some guys did it right Kurt Angle turn out. Yeah real good pro wrestler, you know If this is a great gig don't get me wrong, but I'm saying for someone who still could fight Oh, yeah, yeah angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestling I went to the Olympics with a broken neck She's savage. I just went to the The headquarters in Connecticut. It's pretty well. Oh nice. Yeah She's very nice Stephanie McMahon and I seen that whole fucking place if you're into WWE it's like a fucking nerdgasm, right? I'm not really into it, bro. Tony Hanceworth would cream his pants. Oh my god. Oh my god. He's already been there. I'm sure Oh, yeah, he would he's working with them now. Is he oh yeah? Yeah? Yeah? He's doing stuff with the WWE is he writing for him or he's gonna be in some shows Oh my god guy doing some things Happy that's great. I don't know how much I could talk about this. I have to be quiet. I don't know how much this is public, but they're doing it They're very dirty announcing they're doing some stuff with kill Tony and he's gonna roast like WWE people that I just stuff like that They're doing a lot of collaborations together. It's perfect. That guy's a giant wrestling fan. He loves it. Yeah, the guys that love it loves it He's the best roaster to man with ass when I'll be seeing him at the fights. I'll say shit. I'm like you I don't want him coming at me He had Dana's that's my boy. Yeah. Yeah, Dana's back for the fucking time. We had to do that thing at the laugh factor. Oh, yeah Yeah, Dana's again. We're gonna do this thing and nobody's coming in prepared me boy. He had Tony Hinkliff Yeah, Tony's the best at that shit. He's the best at cracking people cracking on people cut down out But the people that love that that soap opera like WWE it's I don't hate on it. I don't much they love it Well, it keeps you entertained. They like it. You know what I mean? It's they're really smart at mixing things up and bringing in new characters and having new crazy moments And if you're a nerd like Tony like It's like you're it's like the same as like a man. It's a male soap opera. Yeah, but it's like the same kind of escape that you get if you're watching Game of Thrones It's just an escape. This is crazy. Oh my god. He's back from that dad I draw the line there. I can't do that and I got I gotta be I got a problem with it. I just can't do I'm in the same camp as you It's not my thing. I don't watch it, but I respect it. I respect how hard it is to do Yeah, oh, yeah, it's fucking difficult to do remember remember man. We wrestled it up in Memphis. Yeah, we did a little thing in the street We have but we were just winging it. Yeah I was hoping you just let me get a submission. Yeah, you fight me off. I mean, come on, man I mean, it's strapped my knee. It was tough, man. I ain't what I was like, damn This is harder than I thought oh, let me guys take a beat. Yeah, sure. Oh, you can learn how to fall but you're still falling. Yeah I've met Hulk Hogan twice. Well, I'd met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC. It was When we were on I think we're on spike back then yeah, but I met him a long time ago and he's like he was six foot five He's this giant fucking dude. I was like, holy shit. It's Hulk Hogan and then I saw him the last time He did my podcast and he's like four inches shorter and it's all from getting it all of his spine fused He was like a big guy still but it was he used to be a giant. Yeah, this towering fucking crazy guy bald head thunder lips He was so fun. That dude was so fun But uh, that's how many back surgeries he had and he said it was all from that move that he had we dropped down like oh And then the big seat drop exactly so the seat drop every time he does that he's compressing his discs 300 like 300 plus yeah bangin a man every night dropping down every night and just blowing his back out his back was just destroyed wow destroyed every every vertebrae destroyed every disc blown apart herniations all throughout it barely could walk hmm. I was watching the princess bride the other day with fucking Andre the Giant What a great anybody want a peanut? Yeah, he's fucking great. My name is Diego Montoya. Love that you killed my father. Yeah Such a great such a great movie. Fuck great movie. Great movie. Yeah, I put that on for the family have the kids watch it. It's a classic Yeah, that's one the that let's last ages it goes through generations. Look at that fuck. Yeah. Yeah, it holds up fucking love They don't make them like that anymore. I just saw that project Hail Mary. That's a nice one for the family What is that? It's what Ryan Gosling goes to space and fucking has to save the world type of thing, but uh You know, it's more than that, but that's pretty much the it the premise where are these Artemis people at now? Are they are they passing the moon yet? They passed it what happened? So they when did they did they land yet? Are they back yet? Where are they? Well, who's going where they went around the moon? They went all the way around the moon all the way around the moon? No, no, they just went around around and saw the dark side of the yeah, they took photos of the dark side. Oh, really? Yeah on Friday Splash splash on I was getting ready to say what they crashed so they land tomorrow Wow, so they um So the the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not it's not dark Like the sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon is that true? Yeah, it's the way though I used to think I'm a retard I used to think that the the reason why we only see one side of the moon is because the moon doesn't spin. That's what I thought No, no, no the moon not only spins around us, but it rotates But when we see it is the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever It is is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us Right so when when it goes the other way gotcha that there's a different side that's facing us But we don't ever get to see it because it's dark, right? That's what it is So we put this so they took pictures of the other side Exactly, yeah, and there's aliens everywhere. I was about to say yeah, let's say what's on the other side? Yeah, yeah, yeah, civilization on the other side What's on the other side and in that movie he finds an alien by the way? Oh, he does? It's not really a spoiler It's in the trailers. I had that guy bob lazar on again recently Who's that you want to see a great documentary that it's fun? Uh the first I would say jeremy corbell's documentary which is uh area 51 bob lazar and flying saucers. Is that what it's called? Bob lazar area 51 and flying saucers So this guy was a back and he was an engineer and he was hired to uh work on these Spacecrafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were and they told him like try to figure out this propulsion system They brought him into this hangar and this is in like 1988 and it's a flying saucer that looks exactly like that thing on the desk Jesus and it has an american flag sticker on it and so he's like oh it must be ours like and then he gets in it He's like what the fuck is this it's made for people that are three feet tall There's no controls no buttons nothing. Why are you looking at me motherfucker? Why? You're looking at me three feet tall you look right at me. Son of a bitch! But he's got a new one out called s4 I recommend it to anybody it's a they did like cgi and they de-aged him. Is it on netflix or youtube? No it's on amazon amazon and some some other places. What's it called again? S4 s4 s4 I just saw I was just watching a series with you on that uh ancient apocalypse was I on that? Yeah, you was in that with uh oh with graham hancock. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Graham was my man. Do you know uh, Rodrigo Gracie? Yeah Good buddy of mine. Uh, my uh, my old roommate Mmm He's a fucking wacky guy. He's fucking funny funny as shit So, you know, we were just out to eat last night with dan her we were talking about him. I love that guy And he's like, oh, he's great. And he's like, oh, I'm glad that Rodrigo's matured. I was talking about how he's doing good He just visited me. He did my podcast and he did a seminar at my place So, you know, I was catching up with him. So he told me he was visiting area 51 with his wife And he goes so yeah, you know, I always wanted to go there. So me and fernanda we drove down there and No, nothing was happening. So then i'm driving back. You got to drive back hours through like the dark desert, right? So he's driving back and he goes fernanda fell asleep. So I had my laser pointer So i'm just pointing at a sign pointing at this He goes matt and then I saw blue lights in the distance He goes oh, I could I want to make contact he goes what he goes she was sleeping So I started taking my laser pen and pointing He goes and I didn't think nothing of it and then all of a sudden i'm driving And I hear And a yellow circle around my car and I wake up fernanda she's like what did you do? And he's like I just took my laser pen it was a helicopter Fucking following him like just and he goes he goes he was getting down to like almost my roof I didn't know what to do they had a yellow spot around my fucking car So I she told me I we called the police So we you know they go look there's a there's a helicopter following us and they go are you in a they said the car the everything They go the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop Up or whatever so he goes to the rest stop Takes his laser pointer. He gets they throws it in the garbage. I don't know why And then he comes out they they're like look they they put him in cuffs and he goes to his wife He goes go in there and get the laser pen. It's in the bathroom. He she goes in the men's room through the garbage Finds it so they're saying all right you were you were shooting interfering with um A military helicopter or whatever it is like in other words. It's a major yeah crime here that he could be facing He goes mad because I was shitting myself The two pilots come over One of them takes off the helmet cauliflower is he goes fucking thank you trained under my cousin He goes my wife's yelling at me so he got out of it the guy trained under he's a brown belt Only you bro. That's so like yeah, they probably thought they were trying to like fuck with planes Because kids do that they shine laser beams at planes. It's like a real problem It'll get in their eyes with their fucking Oh, yeah, the lasers go all the way up to a plane. I used to be with Rodrigo on on 27th street He's like Pat watch this. We'd be out the window Guys walking down the street In trouble that's so ridiculous. Yeah, a lot of people think it's a laser sight on a rifle exactly I don't do that around here He thought he was making contact Yeah, they keep talking about making contact. I'm tired of hearing about it. Let's do it already god damn it. Yeah, I want to see it. Yeah, they're just dick teasing us Yeah, shit. I don't think But you're a sci-fi guy. Oh, man. Have you watched the dune movies? No, no, I know I was just want to give it a shot. I do I don't have any time I get home to like if it's like late at night when I'm home and I'm by myself watching shit I don't want to watch anything like that. I want to watch documentaries. I was about to say man Take a week off of a documentary on the fucking no I know I get like we're not gonna find out what happens with you hours next week The Dune movies are so fucking I heard they're amazing. I heard rolling is great and now they got the dune messiah Comella was in it. Yeah, third one coming out. Yep third one coming out and this guy can't miss this everybody keeps telling me how awesome They are good. They're good. They're very good. I tried to watch it was kind of slow. Yeah, you know what I you get that just Sensing opinions I don't know Hey, you know what else who else is coming out with a movie Who I I I I I I That's why Dean picked up dinner last night No, no, I did that because of my new job That fucking bill Is this a movie that you put together? Yeah, yeah, what's what's it about? It's uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about a female in a in an abusive relationship Wow, no, look at you mr. Sensitive. There it is there. It's a flower. Oh boy. No shit. I'm multi talented You know nothing to do with cage fighting. You look at that. Do you know Thomas? That's incredible dude. Congratulations. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm gonna start shopping at the film festivals. Yeah next week. So that's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome Yeah, I like when people spread their wings You got to you like, you know life is short and then you don't want to be in a box You know, you want to be able to do all kind of different things and you can do whatever the fuck you want You can do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah. Yeah, so I try to do whatever the fuck I want I'm telling you that's how to live. Yeah, that's how to live. There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do That's a it makes me sad. Actually, it's a sad existence. Yeah You know and a lot of people are doing it because like you got to take care of your family and I get it and I respect it Maybe you have a good time at work. That's great. But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathing I know do it. You should try at least try it get it out of your head. I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day-to-day You know what I mean? Yeah, because I'm not like you Dean Thomas. I don't want to do shit He's got another job every other week. He does He's asking how I'm doing. I'm like dude, my school Talios pizzeria no bro mate no bleach And my pod my podcast I'm having fun with and UFC unfiltered dude, it's just such a perfect little thing for me I don't want to do anything else beautiful. It's so much fun. That's the there's a lot of power and saying no Oh, you know saying no to things. I don't want to do anything more like just Enjoy what you're doing. Yeah, you don't keep piling on but the thing is once things start going good You start saying oh, I better not say no to nothing. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No I should do that. Yeah, I'll find the time But once but once you get to the point where you can say no, that's a great place to be Oh, it's the best place is your heart in it or not. Do you want to do that? Exactly exactly shoot man The day-to-day your day-to-day life. That's what I love about Longo Longo's you know It's funny. He's holding for my daughter now, which is so great. She had her first kickboxing imagine one I thought but like it you sent us the pictures in the group. Yeah, yeah, right? So but it's just a proud moment I was so proud and it's so it's just so cool man when I see him holding for like You know that like you know, he just that guy just is the best. He's just doing the same thing you and him Somebody paramount was smart. They would do a fucking a whole series of you and him Traveling to fights working with people hanging out and cornering each other you guys in the corner are some it's fuck I'm like keep the camera on Sarah It's the truth. We always talk about it in the commentary like it's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner good technical advice But it's just fun. You guys are fun together just on an amateur card We just got brought back together for one of my fighters adrian's this young filipino guy. He's good kid nurse. He's a nurse always smiling They're all nurses brother. He went in My wife's a nurse too, Filipino He went in there and he's just like I just have just my one wishes to have you and ray in my quantity such a nice kid So we went in there we cornered him. We didn't have to work the corner though the first round he flatlined this guy nice Oh, man, so yeah, man, you guys are great on your podcast together. Yeah, that's got a good chemistry. You got a crazy Friendship it's perfect. It's like the banters hilarious the two of you guys you compliment each other perfectly It would be a great show. I'm telling you like to do something soon before the first episode is me and the guys taking longer to a home He's not getting any younger Hey guys field trip longo Don't let him talk to you like that ray I'm in your corner ray Road trip to the fucking home Longo Oh my god, what do you think of? Gilbert burns versus Mike my lot Mmm is Gilbert's lost four in a row, but he did it to all killers. Yeah, you know what I mean lots of stuff guy I'm a lot getting better only lost once to Neil Magny in a fight that he was doing great in but then he got Neil Magny because that guy's fucking never gets tired never gets tired never gives up discipline always in shape He righted the ship since then yeah, and that kids like the next captain Canada. He's doing people. Yeah, they make an unfair comparison Like are you the next George that type of thing, but he's his own fighter, right? He's got a great skill set good head on his shoulders Family of studs his brother's like an ice hockey fuck. It's a good test for him. Gilbert at this stage of his career, you know Yeah, see if he still got it. Yeah, you know He's the first guy to make comes out look human, but you know when Morales did that to Gilbert. I was like Jesus Christ Morales is terrifying He looks so big. It doesn't know. Yeah, I know he doesn't make any sense So when we I was with Brady when Brady got beat by him and The way and he looked okay, right? You know a guy at least 170 pounds in the next day He steps into the cage, and we're just looking like oh my god. He got you massive massive. Yeah And when you're that much taller that the and you're you're the better striker god, that's yeah It's a huge advantage like you just because you can stand six feet away from a guy and just be like gary last week Like I know man sore what he trained it with grant us at ground controls a kid and Before he went off to college and all and I mean the only thing I can say first off obviously he was not ready for him yet But he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking straight in there and took it too much. Yeah, I was just thinking the exact same thing I hope he comes back. I mean that was a I was a bad personally knowing him. I felt horrible watching that I was like he wasn't ready for that yet Yeah, there's just when you get an elite striker. You got to realize that guy beat Pereira in glory. Yeah Pereira knocked him out twice after that But in the first fight he beat Pereira. I think just a decision Like ordinary in his first couple like he came out with a new version and it was fucking impressive. He's fucking good and he's training with Pereira now And Glover's camp. Yeah, you know that's a great fucking camp and Glover has so much knowledge. Yeah He's that guy was in the dark for six years where he couldn't get into America and during those six years. He was the boogeyman Everybody talked about Glover. They're like there's a guy that's in Brazil. He can't get to America But if that guy gets here, he's fucking everybody up and that was Glover Glover was a he was always trained with truck trucking in Yeah, yeah, hello and they're in Danbury, Connecticut. So and that's it. They're not in Vegas Ain't shit to do out there. All they're doing is training. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Just nothing but Lyme disease in the woods, right? Yeah, and federal prison in Danbury Yeah, yeah, Connecticut is it's a good place to just not get distracted Just get to work Dan berries were a Rodrigo Gracie broke my elbow. I was there. Yeah, you was that I was there I didn't know you was that I go, you know, yeah, yeah Damn Jeff get pins in it. No they day. I mean a set reset it cast it. No pins. He told that story at the seminar. Oh, he did Because we weren't close at the time and I was yelling shit, but I regret that too Let it go he let it go And you didn't tap well, yeah, and right which was great and then I was yelling at him from letting it go Which I was just psychotic because you're my friend now yeah at the time it was just well to be fair Like if I knew it was gonna break I would have tapped yeah, yeah, I didn't know it was gonna break right yeah Yeah, that's what the story told anything. He said that Hensel yelled at him to after that for letting it go. Why'd you were you getting soft? Yeah, I gotta get Henzo in here. Oh, he's definitely we were gonna do it at one time, but he was only in Austin for a short amount of time and I didn't have anything open I couldn't get him in I'd love to sit down with that guy. What a legend. Yeah stories for days and he's one of those guys like you hear about a guy getting a black belt and you're like Okay, and you go you got a black belt from henzo. You're like, oh, okay, definitely. Okay. It's like henzo Hickson John jock Machado. There's a few of those guys that are like, okay, that's a real black belt like I Mean henzo's New York place. It's like one of the most legendary places in the history of jiu-jitsu If you had a read a history of jiu-jitsu the henzo Academy in New York City. Yeah, holy shit 100% when he came over shit came over in 96 We had like an in-school tournament, you know, it was great because Craig Kukuk already had two schools for him He had a jersey school and where's that guy? No clue man. No one knows what he's like Disappeared my first instructor, but he was not an easy guy to he'd never let you get too close. I bought all the tapes I learned a mountain skate Yeah Oh shit, it's a very good a teacher I was with him for two years before henzo came over early brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. He's a black belt like early 90s, right? Like the Steve Maxwell era. He was one of the earliest ones I found out about him through the Gracie newsletter that I was applied to at like 17 I used to get that the great because I would buy the tapes you get a newsletter and one newsletter It was like every few months it was announcing the first American black belt and then like two Newslaters later they disowned them Then I found out through black belt magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city I go, all right, they might have disowned them, but they couldn't take away his skill set There was no place to learn and on the East Coast except for Maxwell in Philly. Yeah, so that's how I found kukuk And then he'd be partnered up with henzo and then I went with henzo when they broke up obviously. Why did they break up? I remember henzo took me out to eat one time and he's like look and I always got I got along with henzo so much better He right off the bat like henzo was just so warm and great and I invite me over his house And he was just such a and Craig was it was always kind of a wall. He's a big German guy just hmmm but uh I remember one time he told me like look something with the business where he wasn't feel like he was being treated fairly I'll just leave it like that and then uh, he goes look he goes if no one likes Craig he goes if you go with him and And and me he goes people will go with him because of you because they like you and you but I want you to come with me I go look I go ahead and at first I'm like is any you know, I was a young kid I didn't know I goes any way you guys could make up he goes man if it was Brazil he'd be already dead I I Went with henzo and Craig kind of left him so Matt where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from henzo? I'm the first American on the hands. Okay. So amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's something that could that's my biggest achievement right there You know, he took me under his wing henzo again I was a purple belt he got me out of a security guard booth taking me to Japan to corner him verse rings because he wanted me to See what it's like backstage dude. I was no I didn't do anything yet. I'm like, oh shit really Japan So he would just believe that yeah, he did he put a lot into me so I can't thank him enough there That's so that's that fucking camp you just think about how many elite black belts henzo produced they and then think of the John Dona her Branch of it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, right. No, we like generationally like it just it dominates all the generations of jiu-jitsu Especially now if you think of what Dona her's done. Yeah, you know, I mean his prize guy Gordon Ryan for sure of all time for sure But I mean even on the other side who they don't get along with so much now like that like Nikki rod and a hundred are still from Dona her Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and all elite of the elite. Yeah Well, I'm crazy lineage. It's a guy that just put a hundred percent of himself Into it and he's got a genius mind. I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad Lebrun who was moving back to Virginia Something he gave him one so he could watch it had I think a VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study Wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes and he just used it just to study. I have a question for you. Whatever happened to Eddie Wolverine Yeah, so I asked him about that last night his last name again Cummins coming. Yeah, what did he say? He got into some kind of business now? He's not really training as much. I like I was good. Yeah, he was good Early in the day like as the leg lock revolution was unfolding there. I was John's first, you know Savage he put out our arrow and you know just super super technical, you know Trained a lot of those guys and leg lock technique to you know, they all shared techniques. Oh, yeah I'm I think it's just amazing that John drives. He never drove I drove you fucking with a rash guard on a fanny pack and Adidas sweatpants dressed up last night He had an all blacks polo shirt. I go. Yeah, New Zealand. Yeah, yeah Matt asked him he goes what up what no rash guard and he goes oh, I got dressed up for you tonight Yeah, you probably went back home to his family and his mother was like right honey Stop wearing the rash guard everywhere Yeah, it's crazy. That's all you would wear. He's teaching at Kingsway now Gordon school now that Gordon's done competing He's got that school going on. He's like a character in a movie like he's not supposed to exist. That her? Yeah, it's a philosophy major at Columbia who is falls in love with jiu-jitsu because he's a bouncer who wants to learn that scores. Yeah, right? He's like jacked like power lifter bouncer played rugby. He was like 220 was yoke jacked And so then he learns jiu-jitsu becomes obsessed with jiu-jitsu, but his body's all fucked up from rugby He's got a fucked up knee then his hip gets fucked up and so he can't really compete But he is such a jiu-jitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time. It's kind of nuts It is nuts and that's all he cares about like he doesn't give a shit about anything. He doesn't give a fuck about social media They get John. That's one of my favorite. Oh my god. Full head of hair jacked looking ready for a gay date John definitely Almost like he's wearing a skirt on. Yeah, it does. He was a really jacked. And a blouse. John definitely would rock a headgear too when he wrestled. For sure. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. Bad motherfucker. I know a lot of people who rolled with him that were shocked. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, John would do privates and wrestle everybody all day long. Yeah, he lived it. - He still lives it, that's all he does. - And it's just so fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart, like in everything. Like he's really well read history, all kinds of, he's a very interesting guy to talk to. - He's a genius. - But he becomes obsessed only with jiu-jitsu. He didn't have a family, he doesn't have a wife and kids you gotta take care of. - I love that. - Choking people. - When you have us out here, it's like a routine now. Now every time we come out, I get dinner with him. I don't see him too often, so it's great. It's like a little reunion each time we come to town. - Might be with him how many days a week, we just train and go to Burrito-Ville. - They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic and they were having a hard time there. And I was like, come to Texas, baby. Come on down. - I'll tell ya, you're the Pied Piper, they all ended up here. - Well, it's a fun place, man. It really is. - Well I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while though. I was talking to Nicky Rod about that. He said it was great. He was like, just like being in Puerto Rico with your friends, in a frat house training Jiu Jitsu all day, it was amazing. - Well, especially because they were shut down. - Yeah. - And in Puerto Rico, you have outside, you can get light into the room, so it kills the fucking staff better. - Yeah. - How many guys got staff from that basement Jiu Jitsu? - Right, right, right. - A lot of people got staff. There's a lot of funk that gets on those mats that if you're not careful. - Fucked up his belly with all the antibiotics. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And that's from staff. - Dude, my fucking belly, Joe, on the way here, on the way to the JFK, I told his hands. - Oh, tell him. - 'Cause I always got my issues, but I usually give myself like, if I'm going somewhere, like on a car trip or anywhere, like I clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours. Like I'll give myself, I'll have my espresso in the morning, two seltzers, and then I just let it go to work and I'm pushing on my belly. 'Cause things get stuck in there. - Mm-hmm. - So I thought I gave myself enough time and I was going to JFK from my house, 30 minutes, it was nine in the morning. 10 minutes into that fucking car trip, I go, "I'm not fucking making it." I go, "I'm not, I go, I'm not." And the guy was, my driver was such a good guy. What a nice guy. I gave him a fifth, I gave him a fucking tip. Good tip. So we're driving, I go, I go, "Light, let me just keep watching videos on my phone." I'm like, "Let me just try to let my mind go somewhere." Clock, the clock wasn't moving. I look back, I go, "That's another minute." I go, "I'm not, there's no way I'm making this." So I'm on the Bell Parkway. It's not like you could just pull over. So I go, "You know, I go, I go, buddy, I go, I go, I'm sorry, man." I go, "I'm not gonna make it." I go, "We gotta, we gotta pull over." He goes, "Oh, there's no way really to pull over. You want me to take an egg?" I go, "Go off an exit." I go, "You're gonna have to do something." I go, "I'm not making it." I go, "Can I get your, can I have your 7-Eleven cup?" He goes, "Oh, do you have to pee?" I go, "No, I'm gonna shit in your cup." I go, "No, I'm sorry." I go, "I'm sorry, sir." I go, "But I go, I knew it was, it's just, it's gonna happen." And it's my biggest fucking fear and it's coming to life. So he, this guy, "No, it's okay." He got over. We almost hit a fucking car. I'm on the side. There's not even bushes or anything. There was some like, some like brush. Nobody could see you behind the car. Everybody saw me. You know, there's gotta be a video somewhere. I got out. As I'm taking my pants down, fucking, I'm going, "Thank goodness, I made it." And fuck, I get back in, I go, "Buddy." You shit in the cup? No, I didn't shit. I just piss. Oh. But it's like... Well, I mean, I felt my asshole bubbles, but nothing. You know, when you feel like, you know, "Hm, mh, mh." But does it, it's like that with you when you have to pee, too? Sometimes I have to do both. Like, I'm like, I have to pee, but I know to really get it all out, I have to push it. "Hey, everybody, how's my ass?" But it's... So with pee, though, like, you can't just hold pee? Man, I can, but not to this... Not like how you used to be able to? No. Well, it's not like... It's one of those things where I have to clear out in the morning, and I thought I totally cleared out, but sometimes I'm like, "All right, I'm good. I pushed out totally." And then it kind of just gets something else in the chamber or something. I'm like, "Oh, no, no, there's still something left." So we're driving, and I'm like, when I get the feeling, it's such a horrible feeling, because it's not about willpower. It's not about thinking of something else. I'm like, "Dude, it's gonna fucking happen." This is the day that I just piss myself. It's gonna... But thank God, dude, I gave a custom tag. It was $78 for the road, for the trip. I gave him a $50 tip. I go, "Dude, thank you, bro. You're a fucking hero. This guy fucking saved my fucking ass." And someone else, they'd be like, "Hey, dude, fuck off with it." Or, "Don't do this in my car." Dude, I'm like, "It's happening." I go, "Give me your cup." He's like, "Oh, do you have to pee?" I go, "Obviously." But, dude, he made it. But I couldn't... I couldn't do it. I fucking a 30-minute drive there. I couldn't fucking make it. That's crazy. It's scary But as you get older, it's hard to hold it man It's my ulcerative colitis has to do with that But because that sounds crazy the dude comes on that quick. It's it was I I've had it before but like that. I don't know if I told that maybe said it the last time here We were going to an aquarium out east with my family And it was one of those things just like this and I get out of the car and then we're looking and we I'm like I can then I see there's like a line out to do I go I'm not making this There's no way I'm making this so I go honey. I'm she goes, okay, go go so I fucking there's like a post office with those those Bushes that come straight up like they're all tight together. I fucking smooshed myself through the second. I take my dick out fucking bees But I definitely had some on the front of my pants What are you gonna do? I'm a very clean person. So the bladder is related to that? Imagine being a woman in that situation. Oh man, right? There's no hiding it. Oh, hard. Uh, yeah, man These are the things you got to deal with when you get older a little bit. I am getting my stem cells. That's hopefully good. What is the cause of? Ulcerative colitis what do they say causes it? Ah, I? Don't know. I mean, I think some of it's my history. I know one of my brothers had crones, which is even worse Yeah, man, like so I know my grandfather when he was getting older though. We had some shit. Have you ever like swore off pasta? Well, just like taking like months off? I was oh, I would try to go carnivore I did go gluten-free for a while, you know, but you know, they even espresso I go come on man I got I know I'm with you every time I go to New York. I have to eat Italian food Like I'm looking forward to made the Jersey shows so I could get some fucking New Jersey Italian food I gotta take you to Talios, bro. You love this pizza. Let's go. You will you loved it. Oh, yeah I'm trying to come up next week. I'm sure I love it. I'm sure I love pizza. No, no, just they're fucking no bleach No, bro, wait, don't give me stuff. But it's so I could eat it I could eat three slices on the way to my school and I'm not fucked up I could train and it's fucking if I did that with a fucking regular slice of pizza, you do it I want to take a nap, you know, so it's even my wife now orders the zero zero flour the from Italy Yeah, we get that she makes the pizza. She makes fresh bread. I feel like I got a Game of Thrones I'm in my soup that place so I told you the Vegas place. I'm yeah to it guy Tano's yeah all Italian flour all handmade pasta Oh, yeah tonight. We want to go to a place Get to my fucking hotel if you did that if it would have an effect, you know who? Cured his fucking ulcerative colitis is George St. Pierre Yeah, how did he he said it's one of the reasons why he was stopping fighting fast? He was fasting Really? Yeah Interesting. Fasting did that? That's what he said. I mean, but he does some hardcore like three long shit Yeah, he does like at least three right three days. Nah, I can't do that. I do 24 hours sometimes. Yeah, but that's not that hard You know, yeah, I mean you just you stay busy enough. It's I think if you're busy definitely You could cut you can just eat a big dinner You want a cherry cola? Yeah, what is that? Cherry cola? Oh It all started from here It all started from here, but uh Thank you very much. It is tasty. Oh, that's delicious. Yeah. Oh, that's good. I know. I love it. They're illegal in California They are isn't everything. Why can't you can't have flavored nicotine in California? What the fuck? Why what the hell is that about? Is that like? Because they just want to be able to tell you what to do. Yeah, that's a symptom of the you can go buy whiskey You go to CVS and buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself to death, but you can't buy you cannot buy flavored Zins You can't make no say it makes zero sense by flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids because you know how kids are They just want to they want flavored Zins It's so stupid California's just so dumb. They just want to tell you what to do It's a bunch of nannies and if it's legal, they're gonna tax it and regulate it exactly and everybody's moving out People just flee in that state like it's on fire. That's coming here. They're coming here. They're going to Tennessee. They're going to Florida They're going anywhere. They could just be left the fuck alone I think I have a company has to be the looks not much better now. Well, hell everybody's running out of there, too Not me Yeah, it's just it just sucks when the government gets goofy and you're like, what are you talking about now? That Kathy Holtschel ladies saying Get get those people to come back to New York remember before I love you go move to Florida. That's what she said Which is a crazy thing to say that's a crazy thing to say it's so delusional But that guy that lady's nuts anyway, yeah She said the vaccines were a gift from God like she said she talks crazy It's like people were so tired of Cuomo they're like who else okay fine you run it You know what I mean? It's like how would that lady become like the your best choice? It seems nuts that makes me concerned that Stephen Corbett is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings Who is like he's writing the movie or something him him and his son? Really? I know he's a fucking little bit of a wait a minute Colbert yeah Yeah, oh God, Peter Jackson Peter Jackson was making an announcement I know all the nerd news Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movies coming out with and I'm partnering up with well Let me let me show you and all sudden they go to Stephen Corbett reading a Lord of the Rings book. Oh, hey, you know They planned it and he's like yeah, I took it from this part of the thing she gonna have any dance Poor token they shit all over his thing that rings of power is just a fucking mess piece of shit Orcs rings of power orcs were okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were like they were like kids they were like little kids it was weird what? Yeah, it was what is this rings of power? The Amazon series of the Lord of the Rings is the biggest pile of shit next to the acolyte? It's everybody's shit on our fucking childhood shit on they shit on the major Franchises that had some really good lore like everything from Star Trek what the fuck they did everything Disney touch they fucked up Marvel everything. Yeah, how do you fuck up? Orcs? No, they may have yeah, terrified. Yeah, no, they were terrifying. How do you fuck up the Hulk? Explain it they make him smart. They made him pussy even down. I kicked his ass and he never got his balls back if it down. Oh, right? Yeah, that's an orc bro. Yeah, no with the helmet click on that. They look like they have feelings. Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah, they're making it like they're discriminated against. Oh, no, it's fucking brutal. That guy's got feelings for real? Yeah, he had feelings and yeah. No, they're not supposed to have feelings. There's no more good versus evil. They're supposed to be like demons. Nope. No, no. They're just. That one in the lower right hand corner with the fucking helmet on. Look at that. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. You don't know his backstory. He might be a good guy. They were like, no, father, no, father. Yeah. I want him to be a good guy. Me neither. I want orcs. Old school. Like from the movies. That's why that night of the seven kingdoms was refreshing because it had no bullshit in it. Hey, look, there you go. Wow. Boom. Well, give the guy a chance. Who knows? Maybe it's awesome. They say he had a cameo in Desolation of Smaug. Oh, no shit. They did an animated series at the War of Roham, which was a piece of shit. They made a girl boss in there. She had all the cool dudes get Killed and the girls killing everybody and she knows everything and she and they took it from like one Like she was in like one paragraph and fucking in the thing and they just gave her this big backstory of being a badass It's like the Fantastic Four with the female silver surfer She appeared to maybe one or two comics which is not a main character and no shape no how but boom Is the real silver surfer in it - no? Why did there was a female silver surfer for a while? No, like very like very sporadically. Oh, but they appeared in one or two It was actually his now you're getting on my nerd side. Yeah, it was his wife before he was the silver surfer like Shalabal his it was his chick and the Russo brothers They are they are they they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did. Yeah, so they're doing doomsday Which is gonna be coming which is basically gonna be they're putting out endgame again in theater in the theaters and she's gonna be like correctly Like it's gonna take place directly awesome good good. Well, I heard a thorns coming. They think I'm fucking ready for that They did winter soldier like the highest level of Thor Let's keep going Oh my god, you're such a nerd He's fucking great. I don't know his his comic history The highest level of Thor The highest level of Thor is such a crazy thing for a grown ass man to say Big ass fucking grown ass man. The highest level of Thor That stuff's my WWE. I love that shit cuz I grew up on the comics. Me too. I love comics. Me too. They ruined those fucking movies man. It's fucking Thor um Ragnarok was fun dude love and thunder horrible. Oh is my my friend the rock monster and his life mate Bob, right? What the fuck? Why though? What does that have to do with anything? You gotta give credit to the DC movies then because they never ruined Batman Right, you know the most recent Batman's at least the Christian Bale Batman's and then the new one Robert Pattinson. Yeah, they were still pretty dark in like dark. Yeah Just like yeah, there's like there's no bullshit in them. There's no wasn't they fucking murdered that Thor that killed him and gore like Christian Bale played gore in that movie in the comics that is the fucking best Thor story Gores a fuck like first off. He did nothing like he did on TV on the movie But he's killing every killing all the other gods like I mean Thor his fucking dad had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy and None of that really was showed in the movie. It was horrible. Love and Thunder For comics See if you can look in the comics like the comic version of gore cuz it's not even close So this is already I turned into this movie. Yeah, that was shit love and look out look at his click on that with your cursors on What the fuck man? Yeah, they wrecked he was a perfect guy to play it, but they just ruined the game. Yeah, you can't blame Christian Bale Yeah, they should have done it. Just buy the comic books. You shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up See if it is it's gore the god butcher. Yeah, that's ruined King Thor just in case you were wondering How many doors are there how many doors are the same guy? It's just levels. Oh Explain that. Oh, whoa Damn, he looks good in the movie. That's pretty dope. It's probably also just a rendering cuz I don't know that they're shown stuff like this When does the movie come out later this year? Doomsday comes out this year and so does Dune Messiah It's a good year to be a nerd. Yeah, well the nerd movies sell the best if you think about it comes are we so like 100% a range Harry Potter? Yeah So the Harry Potter show that they do on HBO I've read find out is true put this in a perplexity our wonderful AI sponsor if They made they cost them a hundred million dollars each episode what the new one that's coming out this new one apparently it's so highly produced it's like they've They've risked a billion dollars. Oh my god series. It's supposed to be insane Harry Potter, but it's Harry Potter And I feel like you can't miss with Harry Potter except with trans people there's a there's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a race swap with Snape Snape he's like a guy that's Hundred million dollars right that's gonna be a rough one man because his backstory is not good. It hasn't been confirmed yet Several recent reports claim the budget is around a hundred million per episode Jesus seven plant season eight episodes per season 56 episodes total that per episode figure implies an estimated total production cost of about five point six billion dollars It looks like it's done. Well, I saw the attractions how are you you have to if you're gonna do a Harry Potter you gotta do it to the maximum there's I gotta get into Harry Potter because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one just one now It did But you know before that the one character guess what his name is I'm not guessing anything Dean Thomas shut the fuck up. I swear to God I swear to God I want my royalties for this I want my royalties for this You got another goddamn job It is spelled the real way, but yeah, there it is there it is Dean Thomas my favorite side character. Yep Not many blacks out of here. The one is Dean Thomas. So what why is it controversial because they've raised swap because his backstory? was I think he was in love with Harry's mom and then they fucking I think they all beat him up and stuff. It's just not a good look Mmm, you know what? I mean cuz he plays the black Snape So you're implying that they beat him up because he's black. Well, I'm not saying that I'm just saying it's not like that I'm saying to make him like a like a character that's I don't know It could be Meek Mill If they just follow the books, it's gonna be amazing. I I you know, I missed the I was a little bit older than my kids loved the Harry Potter You know people got adults read the books and shit. I think it's the most successful books of all time. Yes. Yeah, I think so I think it's like right up there with the Bible damn. I feel bad for that lady I'll put that in the book she got she got crucified for just compared the sales of Harry Potter She's not their guns though. She got crucified for being logical right reasonable and telling the truth and trying to protect women and all these fucking people's These actors are still saying she said problematic things. I want to hold them down. So tell me what she said. That's problematic. That was a bit unfair to her There was an article written about this one actor that did it where they said he is More concerned with being on the right side of Hollywood than the right side of history and that's accurate Yeah, because these people all don't want to offend these dorks in Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds enormously commercially commercially What does that mean? Enormously commercially successful, but the Bible has sold far more copies overall Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies estimated for the Bible's around five to six billion copies How many copies of the Quran? Have been printed? Before I mean there's also multiple versions of the Bible and there's seven books of Harry Potter. So yeah There's not seven, you know, right, right, right, right. You could break it down. So there's 45 books in the Bible and those are all sold Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible. I know but there's also the King James Bible. There's right and Bible and there's the Old Testament and yeah So so by fewer copies Harry Potter book sales are estimated to have generated about seven point seven billion dollars in revenue. I'm a Harry Potter in every Hotel room dang country either. That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, they keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case Right, that's a weird thing, right? Yeah, what? Why do they do that? Well, I think someone donated it like there was a there was a Bill Hicks joke He did about it back in the day. I forget there was a name on the Bible like it was a duh duh duh Bible like someone like one family Donated Bibles to like every hotel room Gideon Bible. I think that's it. Is that it? Might be I mean I'm one of the Gideon family. I think that was the joke that was part of the go who the fuck are the Gideon? I was I was so depressed when I got here. I I brought my meta quest and I realized I brought two right controllers I'm playing a I'm playing the game now a new game. What's the game? Jamie get ready for this forefront 16 on 16 This tanks there's fucking choppers f o r e front it is forget about pop one forget about contractors I know I hyped them up on it before this fucking game is just pure adrenaline Joe I'm telling you used to like the quake shit. Yeah, I want to see what it looks like show me what the forefront is so good period is This is 16 on 16 Yeah, that's but it was the gameplay. This is the up you you'd have to I love the sniping Oh, you you give me my behemoth and I am fucking taking people just bring that you back to life. Yeah But uh, it is so look at the tanks, but you're seeing this through your VR It is so much fun me and my brother-law Edwin we go on this motherfucker and we take souls You can get on a bike you could do all for the four-wheeler they have anti-aircraft they have carriers ACPs they have tanks How do you have a life outside of this? Well, that's the problem. I don't that's the problem with these things. It's a house of women, you know They're watching love on the spectrum, and I'm playing this They like that. The problem is these are too good. They're fun. They could take your whole life away. I got a two-hour time limit on my plane to my battery dies That's good. You know two hours. That's all those things around that hour and a half hey After a day it making people more dangerous do my podcast. You know I deserve it. I know you deserve it. I'm scared I'm scared. I watch it. I get scared. You should be with me get squat up. No, no, no, no, no Come on you would get addicted to this. No, no, no. Oh, yeah It's a real problem. It's a real problem. Yeah, it was like I can't play these things like a crackhead that couldn't get his lighter work into I'm like, no! Cuz that's how I like to kill time here when I'm fucking I made a decision a long time ago to never bring like a gaming setup with me on the road I'm like I can't do it. Yeah, everywhere he goes. I'll be up till four o'clock in the morning I'll be like any first-person shooter where you're running around a map and there's another dude on the map and you got to get a rocket launcher and fuck him up You know if it starts to feel real it feels very real me last night that I had to go back. What is this one old-fashioned? Oh? This is don't look like oh my god. It's doom It's doom in VR. Oh, no, this is a problem. I gotta find this but doom is actually think this is the quick one player of yeah Oh, it is quick one. Yeah. Oh wow you like the quake stuff love it But I'm a I'm more of a quake 3 arena guy for because quake 3 arena like show them some quake 3 arena They got the graphics down and then they had it set up where everything was online So you didn't have to like buy the new version of quake and download it to your computer and run it and play it and no It's online so you just log in and you're playing this streaming and it's fucking phenomenal It's like that now with the meta we just get updates show some highlights of gameplay so you can see what it looks like It's supposed to be the VR version. Oh, this is the VR version. Oh, Jesus Christ. Why are you showing me this? Don't show me this. I was gonna tell you next that the Apple vision Pro is being updated now so we can play with fire Don't do this to me. This is my game. This is my game. I fucking love this game. As if you had a Starlink I'm not doing this is it a battle royale. You just gotta kill everybody. Yeah, the problem is man I start doing it and if I start fucking people up. I can't stop. It's fun, dude I can I got pretty good at it not like, you know, I could win tournaments good, but I got pretty good at it Like I fucked these guys up the dudes in the studio. I fucked up. Oh, dude, I'll get real addicted to it That's okay. Yeah, that's a problem. I start playing online and just going into next thing. You know, yep Your life is one of my favorite maps you bounce out to this one and everybody could see you so they're all sniping you when you try to come back when you get the God power Now you just fucking destroy everyone you speak in my language. Yeah, look at this bro. You got a rail gun precision movement boom Look at that. That's the rail. Look at the rail gun, bro. You got to have super accuracy Boom and while you got God power, you just have to hit him once boom boom look at that. Oh shit. This guy's got timing This this is a dick. This is like you're watching. I'm watching people smoke crack Give me that pipe. It's so funny. They but that was VR. I would never have a life. I don't have a life. I can't do it It's just helps balance me out. You know what it's like dude. It's like jujitsu if you never got tired Oh, yeah, well, that's what that's why you have the battery life on it. That thing gets tired. Imagine jujitsu if you never got tired You just do it all day if you never got hurt. You never got right You just be training constantly especially if you were fucking people up. Oh my god always winning and tapping people out once you got to a certain level I mean this is to me straight crack. Oh, dude. That looks fun. Come on. How fun is this game? You're swapping weapons? Instantaneously and you have certain weapons set to different keys like my rail gun is always this middle the wheel button I hit that motherfucker I get the rail gun and you can adjust your speed of your mouse depending on the weapon Do you hear the other players do they complain when you use a certain weapon? Um, I don't know if they use that with this I never did I don't when you chat with quake you would have to pull the menu down and chat if you have a bunch of people talking while you're playing It's gonna ruin your game experience. Yeah, sometimes with this I don't want anybody talking shit. I just want to kill you Onk they call me on good job on you had to use a shotgun pussy You should use a shotgun cocksucker yeah, they complain when I kill them they're like, what are you 30 you're playing a game? I'm like, well, I'm actually 50 I'm like, well, I was in high school. I found out Madonna was 26. I was like, oh, she's old I remember getting ready for a fight at 35 was getting ready for trig and I had g on volante there now He's older than this now. He's like dude. How's it feel to be 35? I go to fuck you. I'm not fucking fighting fuck you You know, I bring that up to now he's like 40 now. I got you caught up to me a little you know, yeah, man. It's weird. We're all dying Time last slow to process really I'm 58. What are you Johnny 57? Yeah, you guys could work in high school together? Yeah I'm 51 young man. I'm still only 49 you're full of shit. I'm 49 together. Yeah, I like it I thought you'd be like a Brazilian that how to regal grace used to lie about his fucking age like a chick You're my age. What is this a fucking 29 still? What are you doing? No one knows how old yo L is. Oh, yeah, you're probably older. Yeah, I know Might be older. It does feel weird when you say 51 like when I say 51 like all 50s and I'm almost 60 You'll be yeah me too. I'm almost 60. I mean when we were growing up though 60 was broken down and yeah It's a big difference from shout out to ways to well Yeah, right for life med for me. Yeah, well you hang out. Do you hang out with younger guys? Cuz I hang out with all you're in the gym. You're with younger people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm always with younger comics Unless it's drawn white, right? It's those worlds and I bet you what I bet you when you hang out with Ron white doesn't feel you hanging out with an old man No, it's like me and Longo. That guy's awesome. Jam. He's a gem Longo's 67. I feel just say he'll throw away something It'll just be so funny. Well, I'll be dying laughing He's a naturally funny dude and just a sweetheart of a guy. He was good in tires also. Oh, he's great I like that show. Yeah, well, you know these homies with Shane Shane's always there, too Tonight it's but there's again like young people that are doing the thing we all love to do having fun Just just like a jujitsu gym just like anything else You know I mean this idea that you have to one day grow up like that's not true. I'm here to tell you it's not true. You should grow up in some ways like be a good dad Take care of your taxes, you know that kind of stuff What are you looking at? After that? Shut up. Shut up. Have fun. Oh, that's me in a fucking nutshell. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games just don't tell those kids how old you are I know dude, they call me an old man, they're like this guy sounds 30. I'm like you little fuck. Yeah, but it's fun. No, I don't have a heart attack for real You have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experience No, but I I'm not above I'm not above T-bagging those little basses when they get wise I'm squatting down on them in my fucking thing in my VR. You can T-bag a guy after you kill him? They get him out of the eye will T-bag somewhere. I don't give a fuck. You don't outgrow that. So you actually squat physically and it does it? Maybe. My wife's like what are you doing? I'm like give it up. He deserves it honey. That's crazy. That's different than a video control. You're actually squatting. That's crazy. I can get my squats in man. Have you seen those multi-directional treadmills that people are doing those games on now? Yeah, but I'm not running. My knees aren't good for that. So there's a treadmill like a circle and it goes in any direct, omni-directional I think they call it and you're strapped in with a harness that keeps you from running. And you just move. They wouldn't get me that. You would be in insane shape. Yeah. There'd be some people in better shape. Oh dude, you would think how good that would be for your footwork? Like if you could have a VR, there's a good VR boxing game. And one of the things that I noticed when I was playing it was when my feet were hurting. Because I was doing it on concrete, on cement, and I was wearing like Converse All-Stars, and you just push it off your feet all the time. I was like oh my god I'm getting a foot workout. This is crazy. Like it was gassing me out. Because you really see the guy and he pops up. you everything goes white like you got stunned like oh shit and you're moving around stuff there's a bunch of them. I gotta get into those. That's tiring. The only thing that's stupid is when you hold the gloves like if you hold the hand things like this it shows the gloves like this so when you're punching it looks like you're punching them wrong so it fucks your head up. Yeah. You know what I mean so when you're twisting to punch it's showing this and it fucks your head up. Give it a fucking wing chunk. Yeah. So like if you punch like this it'll look like the knuckles are coming up but you're doing this. Oh yeah. How can't they get that? They should get that right. It should be where your hands are positioned. Exactly. So if you hold it like that it should be the gloves like that and then you turn it like that and it looks so that way it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing because it's weird. Clearly the developers. Yes. But I think there's some real benefit in it for real because first of all it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing right so you get a little workout doing that. The things don't weigh much but you can always put like a little wrist weight or something or someone can make a controller that has lead in it that has a couple of pounds for each one. You get good endurance doing it and you're doing a lot of footwork drills. It's like you're Lomachenko. I mean he's definitely moving around. Good for you. And it's also showing you how to move away from things and counter. There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply to it's better than real shadow boxing. Yeah I was about to say it's like intense extreme shadow boxing. Yes. Yes. It's like you're really visualizing because there's an actual thing in front of you. I think there's benefit to it. I think it would help you. I mean 100% I think there'd be benefit. Yeah and you're not getting hit. Right. So it's timing work. Not getting the CTE along with you. It's not going to replace sparring. You're always going to need to spar. But it'll give you a lot of like neural pathways to different movements. That you'll you'll have like programmed in you in a fight with zero consequences, right? That's great. Yeah You can't do a jiu-jitsu unfortunately, but you probably could with a robot one day, right? You get a good AI robot You know that's not gonna spaz out on you. I would never trust that right? I got mad at you I'm gonna show you my real strength Dean in this next role. I'm not gonna go easy You know what? You got me look and only cuz they look human the Cyclones I'm watching the battle I started watching it. It's really good. It's really good. It's really good I'm almost always sees on the sci-fi network years ago. It's on like Unappreciated series like one of the greatest hi-fi series of all time the reboot of Battlestar Galactica check I was super skeptical because Battlestar Galactica when I was a kid. I loved it everybody was a super campy It was a very campy and then all the sudden Skywalker was a girl now is like what Starbuck Starbuck Starbuck was a girl now Katie's amazing. She's great now mate that fucking series rules dude. It's a great It's a great writing. I'm on the first season. I'm almost done with it now I got like an episode left way better than the original series. It's really it's really fucking it's phenomenal It's really good and the Cylons scare the fuck out of you and they're hot hot chicks. Yeah Your life. Oh my favorite good. Yeah, everybody's favorite. Yeah, it's great. It's a great fucking series John James Elmos or whatever James. Oh, yeah He was great now. He's amazing. Did he die? I don't know James Elmos is he alive? There's no way. Edward James Elmos. That's right. He was great in that he's great Mexican prison movie remember that yeah, what was that a blood in blood out? He got in trouble with that They wanted to kill him because they made it out like these dudes are fucking each other in jail. Oh Even if they are yeah, don't talk about it. Yeah Snitches get stitches. Yeah, man. I think people died because that movie. No. Yeah, I think people were killed something crazy heard heard something about that Yeah, makes you not want to go to jail. Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were gonna portray him in jail And I think you know, yeah, they weren't happy about that severe disrespect. Is he alive Edward James Elmos? Yes. Oh good for him He's phenomenal in that show phenomenal in that show. Yeah, it's a great show. Yeah, yeah, I just got I Think I heard you talking about it and I put it in there. I got on Amazon Prime. I bought the first season. It's fucking good There's another Amazon series. What's it called? Not the Eclipse? The Expanse yes, yes I watched a bunch of those I had to get back into that I started to get a little chatty I watched a couple of them. I was like I'd see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it. So we abandoned it It's good. I keep hearing I keep hearing I hear once you get past like the first few episodes are really picks up. Yeah, it's good it has a Thomas Jane What's Thomas Jane? Oh, yeah, he played the Punisher. Yeah, he's in that At least the first season. It's good. The guy who's the lead guy reminds me of Jon Snow. Have you seen that? He looks like a skinnier Jon Snow On Apple they had a- John Bernthal played the Punisher, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of people played him. How many people played the Punisher? Well, I mean that the guy from Rome, Stevenson played him before? Yeah, that's back in the day. Did he? Dolph Lundgren did? Yeah, at least four or five of them They gave him fake stubble and it was obvious. It was like literally like the makeup lady didn't even try. It's just smudged some fake. It's the The worst looking face stubble you've ever seen in your fucking life. See if you can find that Dolph Lundgren face stubble from the Punisher. It's like you're looking at that go like Just leave him unshaven. Yeah, he was cool as him though. There's a guy from Rome, Stevenson. I know but you can't see it in there. Like a photo from the actual The actual movie it looked like why does he have smudges all over his cheeks? Yeah, I like Berenthal the best. The new Spider-Man movie He's gonna be in it. The Punisher. The Punisher is supposed to be gigantic though. He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper. I thought Ray Stevenson. Oh, I like Reacher. Yeah, Adam Richmond. He's supposed to be like Adam Richmond. Supposed to be that's what the Punisher supposed to be supposed to be a giant Jack dude and good for reach up a smacking that guy around He's running there with his kids the guy got in his face Exactly drop his bike got his face again. He deserved the smack pushed him off his bike. Yeah, you know how that guy looked like a retard Well, he said he was drunk so the guy smelled like booze. I know shit smack him up He was asking they showed the cops version of the video when they went to his house He's like could you run a toxicology on that guy cuz I think he's drunk. He smelled like liquor I tried to knock him up. You see that guy. What are you doing? He's real lucky. He had that camera one. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because I'd saved a percent 100% because you only got to see Him beating that guy up that would have been a real fucking problem because that guy denied it But he had a camera going on his chest back. Yeah, luckily yeah You see that guy grabbing the bike and pushing him. Yeah, I put hands on him first in front of kids man So many people out there you're on a bike and you fall and the bike falls on your legs like you fucking idiot. Yeah, you know? You break someone's fucking leg that way you drunk fuck a hundred percent warranted when I went to go see that project Hail Mary the other day Dude this these motherfuckers I got the second row and sure enough the first row like five teenagers do They don't even they have their phone and it's bright and you see it like they don't give a fuck The lady there's a couple next to me older The lady comes out she takes the thing out I'm like what I feel like saying you should know better lady What the fuck and the kids I want us I? Couple times I got up this and then they put it down. I'm like I know I'm gonna say something and if I get the wrong response Am I gonna smack a 15 year old am I gonna smack if I get a fuck you guy? What's gonna happen cuz I'm not totally normal? I mean You know what I mean? I don't I just don't want to like cuz this writing is wrong a whole generation has not been checked They're gonna get smacked cuz the valley percent and I just see UFC fighters next 15 year old I didn't see that happening, but anyway, I got out of there without nothing, but it's just always kids are so addicted to their phones They can't put them down for five seconds Yeah, it's crazy in movie theater. They can't stop texting people. Yeah, it's got they're not enjoying anything everything they're doing there to getting distracted Yeah, yeah, which is crazy. I feel like talking to their parents. That's not gonna help, you know. No, you got to smack them Someone's guys right. Yeah, man. I'll tell you that happened our generation if you acted a fool you got slapped Yeah, if you talked mouth in a movie theater someone's gonna get up, you know, if you were allowed in a movie theaters Yeah, people would get up and hey shut the fuck up. Yeah, like I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters. Yeah people almost get in fights They don't do that no more There's no repercussions. I think a whole like what did Mike Tyson say there a lot of what he saying? He said something like a lot of people you get used to talking shit when I'm getting some punch in the face something like that Yeah, and it's true like people just don't worry about anything, you know, but there's also so many streamers that are doing these things online with a provoking people on purpose that it's almost like Normalizing fucking I hate that. Yeah, I like when they get smacked. Yeah, they think it's like they're creating content by harassing these people fucking with old people like just walking up to people in the store and yeah Doing shit to them. I don't know. I don't understand it. Tiki elbowed that kid in the face. Oh, yeah, yeah, fuck that kid He's starting shit with everybody. I was Like that's warranted. You're in my face. Tell me you're gonna fuck me up. I could do this He said he's gonna fuck him up and then he got close to him like he's gonna bump into him. Yeah, well, I mean, then you know what? They don't even give a shit cuz they get clicks. I don't think they give a shit. That's because that's because like they're getting hit by like regular people Except for the tiki case, but they're getting hit by regular people like I'm I'm waiting for the opportunity to ladies put five on somebody's chin I'm trying to put somebody out They'll press charges they'll sue you. I know also, you know if you knock somebody out and they fall and hit their head and die That's a fucking problem. Yeah, that'd be a problem. And that's a real possibility. Yeah Body shots. Strangle them and lay them down. That liver shot. Right, but you know, you're not gonna throw a body shot. Oh, hey, no loss. This dummies got in a fight with the former UFC heavyweight champion, the current bare-knuckle boxing champion in the world. You dumbasses. That was hilarious when I saw this. Look, he's just teeing off on dudes. Imagine you getting Andre Arlovsky's face. How the fuck do you not know who he is first of all? Again, my point is exactly how do you not know who Andre Arlovsky is? And then they got their bodyguards next to them to try to shout out to that dude wins bare-knuckle boxing. Oh, Arlovsky's a stud. Yeah I mean, he's still getting after it and he still seems to enjoy it Like almost 30 years in the game. He's the guy you kind of wrote off his chin a while ago and then also it's like I never saw a chin make a Comeback. Oh, incredible. Freddie Roach said he thought he could really be a contender if he just had a you know proper chin Like he said his boxing skills were there. Well, I mean there was so many times where he got clipped like the fatal one was the wildest He was winning that fight. He was dude. He was good. Yeah, I was caught in the middle of a jumping knee Big mistake laces out moment right there Fedor that motherfucker just found ways to win. He just found ways to win sure did remember when a Randleman was a random Yeah, then he can more them. Yeah, it ain't easy to come or a gorilla. Yeah, I'm saying random man was so explosive. Oh, it was so fast I was just nothing muscle fiber 100 100 day he had the worst staff I've ever seen in my life. Oh Oh, he's like right. He had holes in his armpit. Oh, he lifted his armpit up and you could see that the skin was gone You could see the tendons and all the ligaments. Yeah, if you can find it Jamie Yeah, it's the craziest thing cuz staff if you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic I mean it probably led to his early demise probably was something that led to him dying early rest in peace. Look at that That's his arm. Oh, that's his armpit dude. I mean fucking wallet in there. You know how crazy that is? You know crazy that kind of hole is what that does to your body? Yeah, this is not even when that heals up like it's gonna take a long time for your body gets back to normal man staff scary man staffs real scary Pete Spratt fought a fight when he I didn't he fight one he got bit by a brown recluse like his leg had a fucking hole in it Well, those are scary. Yeah fuckers damn they necrotize you they like their their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue Oh, it's horrible. You see brown recluse spider bites. No, it's like first just swells up And you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom fucking spiders Yeah, you got to get that treated right away and even then it's like really dangerous people die from it brown recluse are scary fucking spiders See if you can find brown recluse spider injury Nasty dude. Yeah, yeah creepy little fucking bugs out there. I'm gonna get the eggplant roll a teeny later I just want to show you one more gross thing that we could move on and it's like Man, come on man. I was at a water balloon Burns a hole in you. This is like what are those things live at? I don't want to get bit by that Texas They're all over the place. It's we're so lucky they're little oh You got that shit out here those things but imagine that was as big as a bear. Yeah Laging a prey and man is as big as a bear dude in london island. I guess we just got some assholes out there, but we don't gotta worry about fucking Things getting a flesh off and shit just a few serial killers. Yeah a few serial killers Guys wearing white beaders. That's it. I was just watching this video where they said the most popular job for serial killer is those long-range truckers Makes sense. Yeah, I mean you got I mean you're on the road got a lot of access to a lot of different people Yeah, and also you think you keep it moving. Yeah moving moving. Yeah before they even know what happened. You're gone. Yeah There's a bunch of them that are linked to potentially to long-range truckers that they've never solved Really? Yeah, they don't catch a lot of those guys That's what's fucked up you want to think like that life's like a movie where they catch when they catch them all But random killers are some of the hardest to catch because they just show up kill somebody leave and there's no rhyme or reason to it They just wanted to kill somebody so there's no like motive. It's hard to tell And if they've done it and not gotten caught for a few years if they're clever like a lot of these guys like the zodiac killer He was brilliant. He wrote things in code. They had I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it They know they still don't know who the fuck it was they did that move. Yeah, I saw that movie, right? Yeah Yeah, they kind of made it like it was the janitor guy. I don't think they know I mean unless there's some new data Unless there's some new information. I think it's an unsolved mystery, but he was obviously brilliant So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people and he's also taunting you Letters leaving letters behind It's gonna be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit. What is John down ever been up to does he have an Was he in New York at that time? The Dark Lord trying out new techniques Alright boys should we wrap this up man good time. Oh one more thing we should probably talk about The White House card. Oh, yeah, like we don't want yeah unless things get crazy between now and then but the idea of them fighting outside in Washington DC in the middle of summer nice sound and heat crazy to me you ask someone to dehydrate themselves to cut weight You know, I mean think about a gay cheat gauge. He's gonna cut he's got a cut to get to 55. Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much But you're fighting for the world title and you're fighting outside That's the noon the noon time has now been corrected which is more sense we get good weather So the the pay-per-view or the main card starts at 8 p.m. Eastern a I was in the middle. I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that That's a little better. Yeah, but also it can it can rain. Yeah, it could easily rain. There's gonna be bugs Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes. Well, why I'm adding a guy you hear me you here? Well, they put a tent up over the I don't know what they're gonna do do back in the day. They have King of Cage It was like raining out and shit. It was called like wet wild or something. Yeah, it's a mess fights outside are a mess. It's a mess. It's a terrible idea I hate it. There was a rain in that cage. That was a crazy show if you're fighting an elite world championship level You should be fighting in a controlled environment period right? It's already a problem enough to fight to deal with a lot of cars the extra factors Yeah, all these you made it you might not get the best fighter right and you it also might severely impair someone who's had gone through a big Weight cut if it's really hot out. Yeah, I don't know what it's gonna be like, but we looked it up wasn't it last year at that same date I think that was twenty twenty five is four but still it's it was what there's like a hundred degrees Oh, yeah, yeah, dude, I live it there. I live in Baltimore It'll be hot and here's everybody's dealing with the same thing though. So it's not like somebody's got something different than right But it's not fair because people deal with them differently if you're having world championship Fights where the you're gonna decide who's the best in the world. It should be in a controlled environment. Yeah, you know The White House baby, it's still the fuck we do. We were not legal in New York when I was fighting and now we're at the fucking White House. It's crazy That is why they're doing it. I support all crazy things so I'm going to so yeah, well, yeah, I just yeah after it's your job. I just yeah, I just got I just got the call for clearance. I'm going so I'll be watching on paramount plus Yeah, Jimmy wanted to go. He's like can we go? Oh my god Outside in the audience that's the question. I don't know like how many people are gonna is it gonna be a round thing? Well, apparently I think on Don't Saturday's broadcast. They're gonna announce like how it's gonna look Mmm. So like that's part of the I think part of the allure for watching Saturday shows They're gonna announce how it's supposed to look hmm. It's exciting though. You gotta say fuck it. It's crazy It's definitely crazy. I mean, it's only this president. I do it Yeah, yeah Oh this card you saying this card is a very good card. I'm telling the Merzikonov and Paulo Costa was the one I got my eye on my back Could be very interesting. Mm-hmm very interesting because Paulo's a big fucking middleweight It might do him good later in his career to go up to light heavyweight. I think so Merzikonov's not a big white heavyweight. No, he's not 510. Yeah, he's he's short. Yeah. Oh, he's got weight to cut too I mean, he's not exactly he ain't he ain't no Paulo. No, no, no, no, no, no, no close He's definitely carries much more body fat on him. Who is he for what that's close to this he for anybody the rocket stop rocket Oh, yeah last fight. That's it. Um, but he hasn't it's been hard for him to get fights They made Dana a little taller there The only thing he said would stop the fight. Yeah, well that could be it Yeah, that would suck. Imagine someone died from getting hit by lightning Yeah, raise their hand up at the end of the fight. They get hit by lightning Maybe a bad look for the UFC. I think I just don't Bruce puffer gets it. I like the idea on paper But the fact that I'm gonna be there sequined Jack Crazy press people are probably gonna protest it. It's gonna be nuts. Yeah to be a lot of protesters out there. Oh, we're sure I'm in protest because it's gonna be a lot of pro-trump people in that audience. It could be a mess Well, that's what they like, you know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fight. Oh, it's a fact They like writing and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to I just want to see some Good fights zero gone and Perez are very good. Yeah, it's a very interesting fight. Very interesting fight Just because of gone poking everybody in their eyes. I'd be happy to see him lose But he's I mean the size is real and and he's got legit skills legit skills that tied to we Vasa fight remember those combinations use it and tie with Acting skills also KO on Netflix Setting up the south lawn begin one month out compared to a few days out normal arena Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to assign to who they want 84 from each we choosing for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights Most the rest of the tickets will go to military personnel the event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card Wow and then more to come Saturday with more to come Saturday and then so there'll probably an announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about Nobody's given Justin a chance here Justin's a fucking animal. I mean, yeah, I love and look how technical He fought when he had to fight For the for Zeev. Yeah, and he's a very technical fighter. Yeah, if you go by the way he fought patty He kind of just walked patty down. It's just like was just I'm gonna create chaos You also got to kind of give patty a little break where he did get poked in the fucking eye or a true more than I did he get more ones I mean, I think to gauge you fought with staff Pretty much everybody thought so yeah, I mean that thing on his neck. Yeah, he said it wasn't and he's seen in grown hair I mean he can say you know, he's not gonna tell everybody He's got staff before the fight could say it after the fight. He looked good though, you know, he's a fucking animal And he he and the only reason I think that is he don't really get tired and he seemed like he's mentally so tough He just pushed through the tired but you could see he would he was fatigued at the end of that fight Well, he's a complicated riddle on the feet - he's he's just good stand-up fighter man I mean when he knocked out Dustin with that head kick. He's oh, yeah, he's talking about that. Yeah, he's fucking good I'm a gumma gauge you can crack love to see him do it and in the early days man He was one of the wildest guys to watch ever that Michael Johnson fight was mad Just madness was a pretty crazy. He just just goes let's jump off the cliff together He does in those fights man, and he was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close close Yeah, yeah, he got away from that. I wonder why he got away from then Could be injured shins, you know, it could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands just wanted to do that more I mean, I thought that was one of his greatest weapons is being so close to just wow crazy man like a weird Flexibility of the hips do that and generate power from in close With what the right hand or the kid? Do it in a collar tie and kick you nuts and I put power yeah definitely has a chance. I mean, you know I mean people just kind of not even give it a shot. I'm like, that's how good yeah, no, I get it He gets hit a lot, and they're just putting the equation together Got that one punch. Yeah, it's for look at the guys. He's done it to you know, Volkanovski Charles in a row Ryan Hall three KOs in a row against world champions. That's crazy guys who know guys are not used to getting but yeah I like that you know, yeah, I like but you know think about how durable Charles is for him Just one shot like that take him out. That's crazy. That's crazy for max I mean max did well in the first round he did but until he got hit till he got it never been knocked out He's a different dude. It's you know There's levels that this game achieves as people get better and better and better and watch everyone around them and Ilya is like This is the next highest level right? Mm-hmm. You know now everybody's shooting for that boys a lot of fun good time Yeah, we do this It's so funny. 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