Joe Rogan Experience #1020 — Amy Alkon Transcript

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0:00 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Everybody, I mean, these things that happen that sort of just change the whole world. men are just chasing status. So it's at least some kind of explanation other than, oh, someone just I mean, you never see women go on mass shootings. arbitrary standards of beauty aren't anything like that. They're very, across cultures, men like takeaway, all your personal feelings about human beings. And you look at the mammal,

3:20 It's the woman with those features that are just cross-culturally appreciated by men. Right. And she is very vibrant. And a woman is not going to want to have the guy who He got a drop from a sponsor. And, okay, he shouldn't have said this and I think that these, there are some incredible women everybody for everything in another era a lot of alt-right stuff on the other side, and they're battling it out with each other.

7:01 And so I think that that's a big part of it. So they're looking for criminal behavior, socially criminal behavior. And whereas, you know, this guy, I mean, do I really expect every quarterback to have the most PC views? No. And okay, he's going to lose his sponsorship when he says something like this. But, you know, if you open the quarterback can, you're going to see quarterback stuff in there. And it's not, you know, the Emily Post.

7:53 So parents know, you know, do you want your son to play football or to play some other sport? But you really won't know how unscathed until 10, 15 years from now when you see him struggling with his words. sort of journey. Yeah. You know, especially football. I mean, football, I mean, we really, horrible car accident. She's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And she kept saying, oh, my God.

10:26 And now these guys are debilitated. And I suspect if you go back and look at those tapes sort of forensically that you'll see that kind of thing, the shaking. what's always funny is that these these companies they um profess surprise when it's like really is, are you ISIS? Like, what's Oh, come on. on like they're playing yeah they'll calm down after a while it won't be in the news anymore and

13:28 It's what the situation calls for. Oh, you motherfucker. I did this recently. you're a sociopath when you do something mean to someone, you feel bad about yourself. And you're going to make more and more shitty choices if you do that. It doesn't matter what your feelings are. Like, the more objective, nuanced, more thought-out way of approaching it is to take into an art of some sort of an argument or some sort of an idea that is both polite and well thought out.

17:19 Or what are you going to do? get attention as well. You're seeing people do it doesn't work on men either doesn't work on anybody maybe it works on kids no it doesn't work on men either. It doesn't work on anybody. Maybe it works on kids. No, it doesn't even work on kids. It doesn't work on anyone. And so you're provoking that whole reaction that's designed to

19:57 I try to be open-minded. to win and you're trying to win an argument that very few people ever win. I mean, it's, it's, Barnard, Toni Araxanen. She's this young journalist student there. Say her name again. I love the idea that anyone would be afraid of Ben Shapiro. If I saw him behind me on the street, I'd be like, oh, great. My parents are Republicans.

23:00 very well thought out. He speaks very quickly and it's intimidating to a lot of people. I know. So Dana Loesch, she's a commentator and she's apparently very pro NRA. The guy said, dear God, and he spelled God G-D. Oh, maybe so. Asterisk makes it all okay. She's like a right-wing woman. And I think, you know, to be, I call myself a neither. I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican.

26:08 It was like a sort of like, it was really recently, very controversial video talking about gun ownership. psych meds that they put these people on that allow them to just deal with life in a way where I want to get them drinks. Like for manic depressive people. Yeah, right. But isn't that funny that saying that? None of that's going to fix it. people to gather around you and be empathetic.

30:35 drugs are needed for. But often I think that doctors, psychiatrists, my experience was and idea people like to put these things in these neat boxes and it doesn't really work. generalize completely, let's say, you know, all depression is a disease that should be medicated lucky that I have a psychiatrist now, who is really evidence based and went on for future

33:16 Mucinex? What is that? So that helps. regulates that, but it also goes like squirt, that really was a big deal. And so much of our medical care, if you look at the stuff on diet, And you see more and more on that. Yeah, right. And so but my doctor Kaiser, I love to save those He's very evidence-based but explains it very well. medication to lower your cholesterol. But if you eat a healthy diet and your body is doing well

36:28 It's terrible. I look at what are the tradeoffs. Evidence, quote unquote. He did this multiple country study where he looked at what people ate and what he did. just a hungry motherfucker all day. Yeah. And then also spikes. Yeah. And so, you know, what I learned I eat one tiny little ice cream thing a week just so I won't feel totally deprived. A lot of people email me, I need to get on and refute what he said.

39:17 But one of the things that was so shocking But the big thing was that when it came time to eat, it wasn't like I was holding my breath the entire time. It's insulin. So good. I just basically try to eat fat all day, grease, grease, more grease. Yeah. So I just, you know, I begged him not to go. And he's a big guy from Detroit, so it's not like he's wimpy or anything.

42:22 This is like, remember Dr. Atkins, sort of the Atkins induction diet. and embassy people and stuff like that. And before they started eating a Western diet, they just ate blubber and whale meat. Yeah, I'm really good on geography. What can I say i failed geography obviously yeah right but i know what you're saying though that they and they also had extremely low rates of

44:10 We're good at producing those. Yeah. It's not Stephen Finney, is it? And he's an MD. As far as, like, connecting. This is a book on how to transform to be confident. I don't even know I like the nutrition for performance There's one guy that we talked about before. And he dunks basketballs and lifts weights and shit, but he might just be some athletic freak.

48:00 And I don't know, somehow my body learned to manage that having a lot and having not a lot, and it manages it better. And I'm not the person to answer this. Yeah. And some people knowingly make that tradeoff. nuts. If she ate a Brazil nut, she'd go into shock and she'd be dead. I mean, I can eat them all day and not be really affected by it, all those things. And so that's the stuff that people don't like to look at.

50:55 also there's um a tendency to want to prosecute people to say you are a slovenly fat person and make people thinner? That's what Taubes in this piece says. And that's what I see over and over doing jujitsu and lost 30, 40 pounds. I know a lot of people that have done that and it works, because when you weightlift, your body makes more muscle, what's the guy's name? Shoot, I'm not going expert in this area, and I haven't read very much in it, but I have read this. What's the guy's name?

53:27 increase your metabolism, it improves your heart, improves your cardiovascular system. And what's And so some people are able to lose weight at a really early age and their, their body packs on a ton of fat and they have those How does it process the food you take in? of milk. And that, you know, we're very concerned about diseases, rightly so, and that's why,

55:49 So disgusting. so is it basically child Your body uses them to produce testosterone. And now part of the good part of having all this media is that more of the sort of the counterpoint gets out there. essentially saying the American Heart Association is essentially whack. It's kind of a whack and you went to medical school, and I went to school of Google, I guess I'll listen to you. And that's really, really damaging. And this is why I think Nina Teicholz, Dr. Eads, Gary Taubes,

58:57 So a lot of these guys, whether it's an orthopedic surgeon or whatever their specialty is, But that sucks. I mean, he's eating this way himself. Well, it's just, we have this idea, you know, we have this idea that, you know, Maybe it's my thing, you know, but if trying and trial and error becomes really difficult for people because most people have jobs and families and obligations and hobbies and things they like to do.

1:01:31 Boy. But now everybody's flipping the food pyramid and he's taking out the bottom part entirely. But is that a good effect in terms of your long-term health? But I see that. You know, they say, look, I don't want to be a part of factory farming. then I'm fine with that. For you, I mean, you really... Right. Yeah. Because you try five, six doctors, you go through them and these are all doctor appointments.

1:05:52 Like, when are you eating before you take the blood tests? Yeah, no, I think so too. And I think read as much as you can about not just read books by people on Look at people. Like if they say something's really significant, then I'm always, I'm immediately suspicious. cancer. And the issue with these studies is a bunch of issues. One, they don't differentiate

1:08:36 caused this this thing that we're seeing okay they are there you know have this effect um It's just clickbait. sources if they are password protected. Because you don't want to just read the abstract because shoot. It was, the third part was in a train station. And I can't remember Oh, was someone trying to borrow a cell phone? i had to do a new question for my second question in my column and i was all annoyed too so i

1:12:08 Well, I had these two friends, and we just thought it would be funny, Well, we thought we'd just do it once. They lined up around the block and they didn't just ask us like about like their eyelashes or whatever. and more and immersing myself more and more in science and going to scientific conferences. Now, so you started out doing this. new york times style section he did a little teeny piece on us like and then it got all cut down eric

1:15:35 we think you write a really great column, but Ann Landers and Dear Abby, of all the real estate, I had to learn statistics. And so now, you know, I'll look at somebody's question and I'll sometimes think I know the answer, but I'll always read to see, oh, actually, no, it's this. You don't write things down? I'm a blowhard in print. just dumb to do it my way. Because you can just do a little writing work and get to tackle the stuff you need to tackle.

1:19:12 And so what I tried to do is persuade people to be smarter than I was, basically. Okay. as well and my notebook is not where i write in i write on a computer. But my notebook is where I write things down that I need to write it down. That's why they say in class, you should take notes in pen and ink rather than typing. And so the truth is, I mean, There's something very memorable about that where it isn't with a tight

1:22:02 day. It seems to, I see an effect on mood the next day. people that, you know, that you can call it procrastinating. And if you can do that, You've done something. There's this classic social science research by this guy, Carl Weick, who talked about small wins. I don't know what the science is. seem like very much. OK, good. say that anymore. Oh, okay. A little person. Sorry. Little person butler. Why a little person?

1:25:17 I've only heard of it in Italian cooking. This will help your brain relax and refocus before your next session. So you accomplish something, even though it's just a little tiny thing. And they usually bring a phone or recorder and then they talk into it if they have an idea and It's near my house. It's like on Lincoln and I walk back and, you know, it's a short trip,

1:27:28 But I do that. me and complicated. And so what I do is I have a pile of papers, there's like a step stool in my bathroom. It's really crazy. My boyfriend goes in there, he's sort of frightened Yeah, that does make sense. And you feel just this sense, you know, because you're going forward. I'll approach that. I'm going to walk in my little tennis shoes and wear those Asian pool man sunglasses.

1:30:42 You know how they, like if they don't want you identified in a photo, they put a black bar over your face? So do you spray like sunscreen all over your face when you do that too? the FDA allows the sunblock now to be sold here it's called anthelios but it's like with the No, you can. That's the only thing I learned. And it's just, it's really the most protective ingredient.

1:32:46 The kind with the titanium dioxide protects. I guess, right? But that is an interesting point about affecting your endocrine system that I never really took into consideration. I've been thinking about sunscreen because I was reading this thing about the Great Barrier Reef being destroyed by sunscreen and spray sunscreen in particular. I don't know if that's right. See if you could

1:34:17 I mean, where's it going? Varying studies produced by the That claim released in a recent scientific study sparked global headlines, found that, how do you say that? The study was published in the journal Archives in Environmental Contamination aquaria and then added some chemicals. It's not surprising the coral didn't like chemicals thrown I mean, I would imagine that's not really terribly surprising.

1:37:33 those nuances and think, well, wait a second. I call this thing the leave the lab syndrome, Right, and we like to blame people. Right. And I think like, okay, I eat a ketogenic diet and then I put on the sunscreen. Clouds overhead. Right. The whole race thing is so thrown out the window when you take that into consideration. The way we look, the shape of our noses, the shape of our faces, the color of our skin, all determined by the environment that our ancestors grew up in.

1:40:01 out, which I thought was hilarious. Yeah. And when you are not racist, I mean, it's not bad to joke about racial stuff. Hey, And also black people don't seem charcoal. Well, Right, the plate lip thing. They're called Eubankees, I think, the people who do that. And the larger the Oh, interesting. I guess I must. There's nothing you can do. I'm on F.

1:43:02 They can decide that you need to be punished, you you need to be punished or you need to be your opinion is invalidated because of the melanin content in your skin. we're going to have a, they used to have a day of absence of people of color. And the idea is it's And Brett was like, you're out of your mind. They were looking for him with baseball bats.

1:45:14 make a protest by not going to school for a day after people fought so hard. I love that little And, you know, there's this mob there, you know. That was just as crazy. this guy was a valuable guy It's no longer about education. This idea, the accusation of you're racist. And it's a way to force their ideas down your throat. but they send you to Harvard

1:47:33 That's the craziest thing The racist policies against Asians. But there was a very strong work ethic that you must succeed. We're going to take the standards. That's what it is. And they are a minority. or worse than other people. But if you go back to the schools, if you help those kids, this is what male, to be violent, all these things that aren't helpful in our modern society. But they're kicked

1:51:34 earliest grades and model what, for example, my parents modeled for me as these suburban, You know, I grew up with a lot of Korean kids and they're extremely hardworking to the point that I felt like a lazy fuck when I was around them. So they continue to do it. You know, equality of opportunity is real. There's sexism. That's where it all comes from,

1:54:16 these, There's a lot of people that are black that are Republicans. or white. You know, I know I have a number of black friends who are highly successful. just did the Martin Luther King thing, right? Just judge people on the content of their character and where you maybe see things, you see their point, or you look at stuff that you want to agree with.

1:56:49 honest, and honest when your side is full of shit, too. Yeah. And, you know, when it comes to country that allow a person to go and buy a gun for personal safety, and then something because I don't know anything about guns. So I probably just used that wrong. But they don't They rounded up all the guns. and immediately people were making articles saying that we were calling for a police state and confiscation of the guns.

1:59:34 that we want to think about things. It's ever been a clear instance that there's a giant problem by burying your head in the sand. There's no, well, if it was just mental health or just this or just that, because it's a mystery. And that was pretty ugly. so horrible did you see that guy's brother getting interviewed no i just saw a photograph of that a

2:01:49 I mean, there might be like some sort of a mental health issue with the entire family Crazy girl. Well, yeah. It's so terrible. All right, folks.