Joe Rogan Experience #1027 — Courtney Dauwalter Transcript

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0:00 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Welcome Courtney! Thank you. Thanks for having me. First of all, how did you do what you did and how are you right now? 32. And you're only 32. Wow. So how did you start out? Well, I hope not. Ready, set, go. Yeah, it was cool. Let's picture you hoofing it. trying to learn how to like tap into my physical pain if I just keep going wow so that's it just just stay tough trial and error yeah wow

4:47 Yeah. that you obviously know how to achieve. Yeah. They keep getting involved in bad relationships. What was the previous furthest? Well, that's the interesting thing about these mountain races, like, because it's not just in For me, they were helpful. I didn't use them until the probably last quarter of the race. And it really is stunning. Look at this section.

8:24 Um, nachos, candy. I take a multivitamin. No? Like, they had Drago, the Russian guy, and you're doing all this stuff, and they got, altitude i think it probably helps i mean um i'm right outside denver so there's trails out my door When did you know that you were going to do it? It's all so relative, you know, because a marathon to me would kill me.

11:05 Yeah, that's what I hoped is that it could be a good springboard to the next one. for the 100 i would average about 100 miles per week so i't know. So that's not even too crazy. He was doing great with it. I wonder if he pushes too hard, like maybe there's a fine line between, he did that in 78 hours he actually did this race two hours quicker than he did the 205

13:13 So, like, forget about the second place person who you could have taken a nice, restful eight He takes pictures of them all taped up. And got out for some jogs then, like Friday, Saturday. I think like everything's just on overdrive. My legs are throbbing and uncomfortable and it's hard to like turn your brain off as much as you want to. Because maybe you're recovering and maybe when you recover from that extreme exertion,

15:16 It takes you six months to recover from a marathon. People who are writing this stuff down are silly. Is our baseline a guy who barely works out? He goes, no one knows how much to train for this stuff because it's really just guesswork. while this was going on. And you know, he was like looking at your numbers and your times. Because I'm just going online and checking this thing constantly.

17:09 You weren't just bogged down by all the nonsense that people just, you know, social media nonsense can eat up a lot of your day. I'll just retweet a few things. Like, they're on the other side of the earth. 20 miles. I would imagine 20 miles. like? It felt still have like five plus hours ahead of everybody. Yeah. Oh, maybe. Yeah, that would be nice.

19:24 Oh, you should come to Minnesota. Yep. He spent the day in the car, the couple days in the car, and I had a fantastic crew of friends out there. So when you're doing it for this amount of hours, So like 10 and an 11? It really was. Yeah, and I was still pretty amped up, so I couldn't shut my brain off, It worked. huge difference. Yeah. If you could just lie down. I've always like ignored that. Like,'re really tired a 20 minute nap will make a huge difference

22:53 One whole minute. I don't, but it was like the deepest sleep. I had some hallucinations, yeah. Well, I didn't wave to him. guy with a cello in the woods or is there just a recognition that you're freaking out because It's always the nighttime where shadows just like play tricks on you. Yeah. Hey, man. Rock Hey, cello guy. So he was just like silently playing a cello?

26:20 in time where your body like like, what does it feel like? these is that those waves like I mean they always come and then they they go so you ride this like um in one this length I was doing a lot of um like water Gade, and then there's this powder you can put in water called Tailwind. but this just felt like too much. There's Cam with the bacon cheeseburger. Yeah.

29:05 You stay fairly warm. Those are great, too. Like he doesn't have to. Did you have to pee? I wasn't until I was having this problem, and then it was like, we got to try and stop buy them at any any athletic store. Oh so this is just a little pill of salt I think. And it's I didn't, no. Do you just eat like a pig and get ready? And so as you're leaving, as ready, set, go, what's the state of mind you go into when you know that you're about to run 238 miles and kick everybody's ass?

32:57 freak yourself out so like just be right now so you just sort of stay in the moment that's what You know, just like slow. while and then i went like eight hours nine hours later and i'm like oh my god people are still fourth night, but that's mentally really hard. You do understand that, though, right? the people that I got to meet, the fact that my feet carried me that far.

36:06 trail runner things, the speed cross ones. Speed cross. I like those because they're good. Like he had help pretty quickly and got to the hospital in pretty good time. It's not good, but. You shouldn't do anything. Remember that? They must have had some sort of a feud back in the day. He was in it. He was in the original Cut it open. to show where the swelling has gotten to so that the doctors have a better idea of like how quickly

39:32 I'm like, whoa. Oh. You guys have mountain lions out here. And we were driving up the road and I saw what I thought was a coyote. Yeah. There's this one that – he has a name too. He just went on a rampage. her animals right fucking crazy assholes well and it's not doing if you love animals, wouldn't you want to stop the animal that's murdering all her animals?

41:37 They just can't help themselves. they're important part of the ecosystem oh yeah but the weird thing about out here is we've sort deer all day long and they have to capture him every couple of years. Exactly. Minnesota. Like as far as, do you have wolves? Do you have mountain lions in Minnesota? Yeah, interesting. Where's his tail? What is that? or mountain lion left

44:47 And then we eventually figured out that it was a bobcat. I'll let her describe it because blood dripping down my face, like stumbling along, totally couldn't see the trail. Apparently, it happens in ultras quite often. better. Well, did that concern you at all when you're about to run 238 miles? Yeah, I really didn't want to go blind again. Yeah, Jesus Christ. But I...

47:36 Oh, that's it? I think because it went white and because it moved in slowly, it felt topical. Well, I hit my head and it thunked pretty hard. If you go crooked. That's just so crazy. So how are you knowing where to step? You're not, Like you have to be more, use technique? I guess you just can't just flat out just hoof it. Right. down, that is when I would be concerned about like mountain lines or something like that.

50:33 it's already too late for you. Called his mom before the bear attacked him and said, I think there's a bear that's following me. Like the hawk thought he was food, so he was going to grab him and bring him to the nest. I have hawks in my yard all the time. Escaped The whole head. scar right what happened to you gangster shit i wonder i wonder if he did he's like oh my this hulk he's trying to take me away oh dear hey someone help me that's not the hawk that one

53:03 But other than that, there was no warning. That is a gangster bird, man. the other day like imagine like something that can swoop down and grab a salmon out of a river and fly off with it. kill the wolves. They drop them from up high or what do they do? No, they just kill them. Here, you can watch it here. It's crazy to think that this was somehow or another they trained these things to do this too.

55:10 That wolf should have ran a little faster there at the end. But even a huge bird is a fraction of the size of that wolf. has. Yeah. Well, we know and I open the door yeah, I think it was a girl. Yeah. the fence recently. I don't think I talked He clawed through the chicken wire. It's just their instinct, you know? No. Because we don't like to think he's a kill because he's still a baby.

58:21 Do you bring a backpack when you're running? same thing where it's like holding in your body heat. That's crazy. you ever done that before? That's awful. Um, I don't know if I've sort of like how it manifests itself in everyday life. Sort of a recreation If that venti latte was going to make your day, I'm really sorry that they're out, you know. I'm trying to.

1:02:32 I mean, it's like this more than half blind, 98% blind. So now you just run? all this and they were like go see what you can do without the without the 7 a.m to 7 p.m shift And so is this your goal now is to just run? Yeah, for the time being, I want to there's a Moab 200 Facebook Candice, you're a psycho. that is next level what is the longest anybody has ever run like what's the longest race ever

1:05:41 Oh, there you go. He's literally with you. Wait, I think this is the one in New York. I'd imagine. Swap war stories, you know. And look forward to it. We've got to get you a prize. What you do is like, I just feel like it's massively underrated in terms of like society's I didn't know anybody who was that crazy. Trail running is so awesome. Oh, I bet.

1:08:48 But a lot of people's thought process is, well, if you do cardio specific to your athletic event, right? I played on some adult co-ed volleyball and soccer teams recently, is what I'm hoping for in this next year Why do you think that is? Like, I mean, that'd be cool. That before, who was the guy, Jesse? they used to literally think it was physically impossible.

1:11:31 I mean, it's really true that there are boundaries to human performance that have not been explored yet. You are. They might not have ever. This year, just one, but I think it'll keep falling. What would you try to get it under 50? I don't know. I think I'd just have to see how the day Jordan. I can't do this anymore. I bet that guy gets a good night's sleep and brushes his teeth and forgets about it for a little while,

1:14:13 you beat me by 10 days. Now, Candice and her crazy idea for 500 miles, And she was saying maybe 2019 she'd be able to pull it together. Yeah. You'd be like cheating. You couldn't sleep. But, like, for this 500-mile race she's suggesting, We're talking about it. Six hours. get off the cot and just lay right on the ground right next to the cot now what yeah look i'm not

1:17:55 them they exist I don't know but that's the question that's the cool part is if miles. What happened to him? I'm not sure. I think his legs or his quads or something was given out. What's the percentage if you had to guess? You just know it's this big adventure, and you're going to be out there for multiple days. Atolysis or something like that where your muscles start eating themselves.

1:20:01 Yeah. Yeah. It's not a matter of what's possible. And someone who's like, oh, well, her mountain's like 5,000 feet high. do you feel like your body I just haven't gotten motivated to head to those classes yet. It's just not incorporated into my normal routine very well. I'm going to keep trying to strive for higher. And it takes discipline and constant focus and constant attention and just time in.

1:23:49 then you won't be jazzed to go to any starting line. How high do you get when you run in like that? I mean, when you're out there, like, cruising along some beautiful trails and you're in an amazing place and you feel really good and maybe you're with people or maybe not it definitely can feel really awesome still enjoying the trails. hours i know burt can't that fat fuck sorry brett i love you it's inside joke

1:26:43 Why not just burn that candle with a goddamn something on Twitter just a Yeah. exercise delayed biological aging by nine years as measured by telomere length so this is like The longer telomeres found in active adults next to him and you go, whoa, those two people the same age? Right. No. Are they like the big boots? They sent it to me, and I sent it to Cam.

1:29:54 Good question. Place right down the street. If you want to do it, we could do it. They just sent me a Normatec. Oh. When you were running, did you listen to, like, a certain playlist over and over and over again? Yeah. Oh, right. people you think were juiced up to the gills and they still couldn't beat you at least one at this That it's a big thing.

1:33:10 I would like to think better of them, too. No. drug testing right in the early days but you know like it's it's like how much does that help starting to implement drug testing just to try and like, um, cut it out before it even becomes you know, all these muscle building this and stack that, you know, a lot of that stuff is they, Thousands of fucking supplements that you're buying from just a regular mom and pop vitamin store.

1:36:21 Yeah. That's legal? Like, I want it all. Yeah, he's on a ketogenic diet. Yeah. Yeah. That's a monster. no i guess if you run as much as you run you don't have to think about your diet at all, right? I don't. Is that when you would go to a nutritionist People beating me. But don't you think that the fuel You know, like I don't want to be counting how many kale pieces I'm eating.

1:40:46 nicholson the shining you know too much work no play makes jack a dull boy right yeah yeah is it And if you really can run 500 miles, if you do 500 miles, you got to come back in here. We got Whoever's got Courtney DeWalter They said they were going to give it to you, right?