Joe Rogan Experience #1031 — Jamie Kilstein Transcript

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0:00 Welcome back to civilization Jamie Kilstein. Hi I don't know where I am. I went into hiding. Weinstein, Kilstein. who would just be on Twitter all day. who just live like in their box, that it's almost like a natural human behavior pattern. I closed it. and sort of, Those fucking bitches all had it coming. It wasn't that I like wanted to make comedy my, my like nemesis, right?

4:57 It was like a bunch of, you know, when that show started, it was a bunch of just weird, sweet, nerdy comedy fans. an idiot. you're retarded. Fuck him. They are not able to think correct. You saw a gay rights thing I did on Twitter. street, things got really heated up and people started moving way left. everyone a rapist every man's a piece of shit oh i i did all of that. I straight up did all of that. And I think one of the things with the ultra left, and maybe this is me like, you know, maybe this is me desperately trying to defend myself.

8:09 he liked the Bernie Sanders page, but it wasn't like we are launching wars against Islam for Everyone has the right to an education. being a conservative used to be We'll tell you like whose dick you can suck. Is it okay to do that one day? the baby will die. It's it looks like a little baby sometimes. They have a heartbeat if it gets to a certain age

10:36 Feminists don't like me anymore, It's like, what are we doing? hate me. I can listen to the show again. Great. I never hated. No, I know. I never hated you. And I guess that's it. thought was smart it would just be kind of like uh uh hushed because i'm not that smart i'm not i'm good at like telling stories um i'm that's right that's where i was going like sort of way back which was um you know the the show

14:06 you, about that show and, We, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the question. That's another thing. That's just hanging out and watching fights. ally. bucking for the females. It's like... Some of them are definitely assholes. but there's a lot of the blogs that are attack machines. And it becomes a sort of weird exchange where, you know, it's like implied.

17:49 I think we're all insecure. Don't need to read the article. And this like sucks to admit. but we were all angry about um today jesus christ this is the first time i've had caveman coffee oh And it's one of the main reasons why I don't interact with people online very much I love him so much. And I, um, I wasn't going to say off that with man, just a sort of sidebar with Twitter when

20:27 these shouldn't be fucking controversial issues but when you take it to that extreme um that you Um, you know, I was constantly saying either the wrong or offensive things on the show And this time the woman at the college introduced me. That's like you're defending people, but then it gets to this level where you're like i gotta renew my ally dues and call somebody

23:10 Unwanted or remorseful sex was rape. I'm sure you have. But if you're blackout drunk and the girl's not, did you get you get raped right because that's happened to me right that's happened to me too So I swear to God, I'm just dodging what happened. why did they do it in spite were you guys thinking about having a baby no no no no we had like uh and he's this like older African guy.

25:25 you couldn't move yeah i can there's oh there's so many words i can say now it's a good time to Okay. She didn't want to listen. services is there and i look at him and i i'm like tears in my eyes i'm like please don't take He was like, I've seen that before. And we all would have been in jail. Daniel Tosh was not supposed to be on stage that night.

27:47 This is amazing. The humiliation, the violence. was circulating but even that first And fucking Doug and Bert, like this whole rape thing happened in the audience. But this. Right. where you know nothing offensive was really happening and i'm like fuck man i'm next to And I'm not hanging out with comics. And I'm not trying to sound fake to me, by the way.

31:24 Some of that shit I will completely like own up to i watched it like like I'm like, I'm going to lie. And I kind of was like, all right, it's a little weird. Because you're in an open relationship relationship but you don't talk about it me and this girl broke up years after all this shit, I'm living in LA. I have a girlfriend for They were saying, but it was very unspecific what I read.

35:21 And like I was always like, if you call a girl who accuses you, you know, crazy, you're just projecting and like you don't know what to do and like i i was always like if you call a girl who accuses you uh uh you know crazy you're just projecting and like you're trying to and then suddenly i'm reading It's not even say Jezebel because it's one woman who wrote it.

36:11 the woman. And I was like, That's part of it. If I'm Mick Jagger famous, Yeah. Yes. we did not sleep together. Okay. And then it said, but then weeks later she heard on the podcast that she was just a quote And we didn't have sex. trying to be you're trying to be nice yeah well i assume she is probably you know i mean she's But at that point, I was literally Googling ways to kill myself.

40:09 Because I had called so many people sexist, harvey weinstein yeah like about ben affleck they call it sexual misconduct what does that mean like Is it brutal? I do it too, man. It's okay. you don't hear like left wing people talk. Go to like step to me. course there are people to this day that would come up on citizen radio that i don't know why just had this audience and sort of thought I could never get fired, you know? Um, like when,

44:18 and wind up and go and fuck some jock somehow okay i mean that's literally what happens like Who didn't? Yeah, right and so this is what happens and we would get emails in from people who, that you were talking about doing on Twitter, But what also came up was like, I fucking love jujitsu. yo, I lost a hundred pounds because I did jujitsu. I couldn't say that I was capable of saying it.

47:04 Yeah. so fuck you for being fat. what's going on. That's where it gets crazy. gets silenced it's done and that's what happens with you know i was listening to uh i think it guarantee there's an episode about that It was. That's what I said, because you're making this you're being aggressive with your hands so he did put like I would know I was selling out you know but on the

50:24 policing and stuff like that, so the suicide stuff was like, yeah. What are you doing for 11 years? even this stuff, Audience gone. I hope you whatever. don't even know you well i think we have real problem, both left and right in this country with attacking people. And I hate to say this, but I think we have a problem with doing that with Like, cool, you're going to solve this in 140 characters?

53:01 back and forth and you're trying to fucking get my king. and I was like, oh, I think I blocked everyone. Like people, there's groups that people have decided are problematic. fucking dummies all you have to do is sign out of twitter and then i go to your page and i read it I had stuff about like this and I had been the first time you didn't stand up and how

55:15 yeah this is doing actual stand if you don't pause you can't hear that they're not laughing But some of it was like really well written. Before. I had friends when I would do jiu-jitsu I had friends in Marcellos like those guys were into what you were talking about with like microaggressions and, and, and stuff like that. but when you reach out for help like this fucked up and so i didn't i didn't feel like i had a lot

58:15 So I go to L.A. Duncan Trussell was like, I want to be a New Yorker, man. That's what I don't like, the mean part. What? and they're one of the first guys to fucking henzo's my little prius and it's sunny i walk in i go train say bye to everybody and get back in my car yeah it's uh, you know, The worst comment. And you were on your way. Oh, right. about these people that became Nazis.

1:02:17 Progressivism was in that box. It was in that wheelhouse. Yeah, and we all question just to change it up and he was like i'm not gonna answer that did he say that yeah and i he had his Whole Foods bags, and he hopped up the steps. He was super cool. I did not see that coming,. Yeah, he was awesome. He was super cool. It's a trap to them and you see it with its you get rewarded for like PZ Myers as a whole career from it

1:04:36 towards you because they don't want you to do that I'm kidding. It's very rarely essentially on the left. Okay, yeah. and killing cartoonists Or if you go, you know, that Islamophobia, dude. I've been healthier than I've ever been in my life. And getting to hear What you're saying is pick a side. I don't know what any of those words meant, but I get you.

1:08:46 middle or middle ground they always see that as wishy-washy or not taking a side yeah exactly look at where more moderate Muslims are today, you know, I mean, there's people that are reformers Well, not only the more radical, but even just the younger ones where if you are a 16-year-old Muslim kid in America and you immigrated here because your fucking family got bombed in

1:10:50 A hundred percent. And that in attacking, instead of explaining the positive aspects of your positions, instead droned it's like fuck can't we just be happy about like one thing or it's like they're finding ways progressive than you yeah or the most depressed right ramp up the radical aspects of your Do you think Facebook is more of an echo chamber like what do you yeah? I mean Facebook

1:13:33 read it anyway. You give people shit that happened to me how it backfired where i'm like how many people are actually reading So. Well, Weinstein and like, Right. my girlfriend, article like or if they just saw that word and was like, I will get in trouble if I I mean, but if I was in your shoes, I might have walked down your road. Right. out to thank him. And I said something that made him laugh and he was like, you could come back to comedy. And I was like to Stan Hope I just reached out to thank him and I said

1:17:00 we do man we have fun professionally She said, please don't rape me. But they do not have your back it is icy judgment pretty much around the clock they're lying to you and then i just started looking through ways um where i was like i don't Well, but that doesn't count, right? I'll give less shit for that. Wild animals wandering through the woods.

1:19:11 Keep me posted. Yeah. Yeah. of right versus left is so goddamn crazy and we have i was not a good person i don't think at least to the standard that i i would like to hold myself i know he's the best did you ever watch kung fu the legend continues not as popular uh i yeah, so the first... I mean, it was auto-erotic asphyxiation was what they listed.

1:22:22 I didn't have a dildo shoved up my ass by Thai gangsters. I doubt he had any power. The first six months I walked around like I was accused of actual sexual crime. and they don't read it it looks fucking shady it's not but it looks shady and all people do is they Like I've become a really good teacher. Because that's how every day starts is you check Twitter and you go, oh, there's a popular hashtag.

1:24:42 best stand-up I ever did was a story about my dad and she goes, It's about your flaws. But I think I've been very conscious about avoiding weird boxes. So it's not like there's like a body of information that we can draw upon. Fucking move to LA. I was like, I like logged onto my Twitter the other day for the first time to like follow jocko or tim ferris or one of those guys but talking about like uh putting on airplane mode

1:27:29 Like it's really addictive. Virtue signaling again. Uh, I think it's what you've been doing so many different things that people what's virtue signaling again I'm going to jail. I opened up CNN today for the first time like I guess if I'm going on Joe's I would look at it like the mob. And he's bringing in these dudes spent millions and lied about it for the past year, which is, by the way, you're trying

1:29:44 situation where you absolutely have people that have colluded with Russia. one thing if you said i disagree with hillary clinton's foreign policy that's not that should Patently insane right and that's what people need to know. This is a big male Kardashian. goal achieved. Now, we have systematic oppression of certain groups of people, right? See? Well, and people were like.

1:32:48 Yeah. Oh, look at us, like white people should be killed by cops. like nitpick at these very specific little arguments. And what about that one black woman who got pulled over and refused to put out her cigarette? I mean, we've seen that kind of shit before. Right. that woman in utah that was arrested because she refused to draw blood on someone who was in a coma

1:36:31 You're asking regular people to deal with insane amounts of power, literally the ability to pull the trigger on a person and end their life. Yeah, unless the cop is fucking Stipe Miocic. You shouldn't be tasing like mentally ill people who are having heart attacks. Oh, okay. i want to become like a police officer so i can finally get the respect i deserve oh jesus christ

1:38:49 Oh, they're having trouble, like, recruiting and shit? Right. You know what I mean? And so it's like people just need. to feel oppressed. one of the good things about these groups like Black Lives Matter is regardless of whatever controversy, it's forcing the conversation. Right. got it. standing out for it is outside of someone's congressional office,

1:41:59 The only reason why the news, No. That was the name, the main headline. we should be applauding. why doesn't the public trust us? it that's not the story no that sounds like a festive thing we should all be like congratulations to equate like uh trying to fuck a 14 year old with just like going down to west hollywood to talking about something that happened at least 30

1:45:25 That was like the last five years of my life, too. and Kevin Spacey is absolutely covering this up I tweeted about fucking Justine Sacco. Yep straight up I did and I read that book and it's like yeah, you don't you don't anonymous. Right. way, but has definitely made me like, I talk to people more now. You know like there's there's some weird things that people say in order to be supportive of trans people

1:48:36 right like i don't care i i i think that everybody should should live and feel free as long as you're I mean, they can just walk into bathrooms now though. Just like there's going to be people that drive into cars, crowds it's a loophole. I mean, they could just walk in the bathroom now, though. Right, right, right. Like the fact that anyone would think that I'm like, that fucks with you.

1:50:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Guys, I'm about to become a fucking 4chan hero like the Meninist or something like that. Yeah, exactly. What's that? Or the Red Pill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. and took it down and walked up to the camera not awful. These are individuals 4chan is awful. Missing the whole point of what they did was not awful. These are

1:51:00 We missed our opportunity. Radiolab and 4chan And there's like an app that can do that for you. But fucking, oh, I forgot what I was going to say off of, oh, the cult thing. i kind of wish you were more predatory towards me and that's when i was like i'm gonna i'm gonna and I kind of walked it back a bad breakup, whatever, when you start to call consensual hookups on the road predatory,

1:53:10 But I also had people be like, I just want to be a fucking comic. That's what's been happening. And you were looking to get this sort of response by attacking people. just being able to like like wake up early take care of myself read books hang out with my dope Anytime you tweet, I just had a good night. one wants to hear about my shit no one wants to hear a rant about being a moderate and so many

1:56:11 Yeah, well, that was the Rose McGowan thing. The silencing thing is so fucked up. What is his last name? It's like shouting down at the female journalist or trying to get them fired is still just as bad Yeah, that's his name. This is the new Twitter war. changed a lot of my views on everything yeah well. Well, it's a very important episode. You're supposed to be fucking protecting us.

1:58:39 We've been standing outside literally for at least five to six hours between you and Holloway. Before I was not angry, per se, I was disappointed that conversation without having answered for herself. I am disgusted knowing that you work at Yale University where I will get my degree. Okay? This is how it works someone speaks dialogue she wanted debate he also from what i remember on the podcast he didn't need to be out

2:01:17 I'm gonna have your job this is where I'm gonna get old or a 19 year old but the twitter and intoxicated intoxicated by that moment as well you know yeah we're not going to watch his show anymore. Right. And I really hope that people listening to this, because I wouldn't have listened to that podcast. You're attacking them. You're framing them. But it was a heterosexual cis cow.

2:04:36 Is that? You know what I mean? What they do, the way they grow vegetables is totally unnatural. So what is it what they do do is they put a lot of antibiotics in the cows because the cows are eating things that they're When you get a marbled steak, what's that Wagyu stuff that people cherish and love, Steroids are expensive. They're living in each other's shit. They're sick all the time

2:07:38 Turkeys are pretty big. They're so cute. Yeah. Yes, of course. It will. Because you're fucking break here. You're you're you're the vegan community I'm glad it's getting coverage too. don't buy that argument no i think this is just how it's convenient to run right now yes and you It's like, well, it's not because they're like or this side or you're either pro-government or you're anti-government.

2:11:36 And when we were coming back, we were at the airport. And this place has this, you know, amazing churro, want to do and they don't believe they can actually do it. a difference i'm just doing it for for a little a fave. I didn't even have enough fucking Twitter followers to be addicted to Twitter. Yeah. all sides. Yeah. and where it's, how it's getting in.

2:14:30 Like, I'm picking my girlfriend up from work after I, like, do a bunch of jiu-jitsu at, like, a dope gym, you know? I mean, these big moments are big opportunities for growth, these people attacked you, and things You were at the All Things Comedy Festival. I definitely saw Ari's dick. Ari could have sexually assaulted me with his dick It would fill the comments up.

2:17:07 Well, I'm not a predator like you. Like even the comics, you say the most horrific shit on stage for the most part. Um, to, Well, and when I heard him on the podcast and not he gets a little mouthy on Facebook. I don't know how that happened. So anyway, so I listened to this interview. And he, I thought it was going to be like just being like, this fucking faggot feminist.

2:20:10 He sounded so like sincere and sad. Yeah. because it's easier to stereotype and demonize. that's like, ah, I got to look that up. I have to like, think about this. I have to maybe change And I mean, collectively, the human race is probably never communicated clearer ever than we do now and it's because of our access to information there's just definitely going to be these groups of people that so you know they they haul off and they get confirmation

2:22:32 They don't get a chance to see who you really are no and then when someone like me who's in a position to amplify it i needed to fucking look at myself and fix. And, and was I being selfish? no, I didn't do that, know i they just thought it was funny because i i was talking to doug and i was like yeah man i i i I'm like, he's probably trying to get laid.

2:24:38 Dude, I have. Sort of like the Cosby thing is to drugging and raping yeah it's Yeah. he went from comic to lecturing, Being a comic saying, What? Somebody, And someone pulled her aside and said, be careful around him. Jesus. and this is what would cause harvey weinstein's and that's why it's good and that's why you know i would never be like social media is the problem because

2:28:23 what does that look like is it a guy actually pressing up against you and like violating your physical space? I mean, if you write a blog about it and you take all these women that, you know, Bill could have hired prostitutes I mean if he wanted to if he just wanted sex yeah Right. You know, and also like is that the thing to do? He had the money and the influence to get them and give them the career that they desire.

2:31:33 No, no. And she said he literally would negotiate certain aspects of their careers with sex. Yeah. Yes. settlements or judgments. So we want to protect ourselves from your Which is fucking crazy. had negotiated this Yes, yes. unless your employee likes it yeah and how do you know until you do it here lies the problem i was reading some fucking article uh not an article an advertisement from

2:34:50 and strong. Like, no, no, no, no. What if you're How do you know? Put it in the ad. Like a fucking man. Will he kiss her? Do not ask permission to kiss her. You're looking dreamily. What? Yeah, this is all one ad? The editing. Safe to kiss. Commonstance Gum Company. Common Sense Gum Company. Here's the thing. If a man and a woman Jamie Kilstein? That should be

2:39:07 Weird. My girlfriend's much happier. I got sick. This was so fun. Don't for a day, at least. Glad we did this. Owen Benjamin on Wednesday. See ya.