Joe Rogan Experience #1032 — Colin Moriarty Transcript

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0:00 3, 2, 1 around the space. Thank you. Very cool. Thank you. I'm very excited for you. I'm excited too. I bet. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Jamie's moving shit around. What happened? Oh, I was out of line. And I don't serve ads on anything I do. But I was trying to just kind of say, I don't need more than what you're giving me. Yeah I But I hear you. That seems insane.

3:03 Like you think about, like Snapchat's really like faltering now because Instagram has basically stolen its entire And I was like, I don't find so much utility in it anymore. think it's because I don't use it. Yeah. I think, I think algorithmically, the more you use it, And I don't even interact with these people. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, I wanted to talk to you about internet controversy

5:59 It was a peace and quiet hashtag a day without a woman. outrage. I had no bandwidth to really think about what the hell happened. that one thing that you said is so awful and outrageous that all of our years of collaborating Yeah. The only thing that I can think about is that I was at least in a position where it didn't destroy me or whatever personal and try to destroy them. I'm not saying people don't do terrible shit happens all the time. We're seeing that play

8:55 mob running to the streets, frothing at the mouth, just looking for somewhere to point I don't know what's true, what's not true. that's what kind of scares me i was telling i don't know if you're a black mirror fan but i was That starts with the accusation. who was accused of things last week he didn't i didn't hear this one um there's too many to keep

11:15 was that he was like, Clearly you are a scumbag in some way, That were working with him? If a guy rubs his dick on somebody, that's essentially sexual assault. But then you just never know any situation. or Harvey Weinstein type situations. And then on top of that, he was physically force forceful so you got like your worst-case scenarios and to do that when you're a boss right i i was more i was very interested in the in the in the dynamic

14:36 Because it's easy. all that. But I've known people that have been very flirtatious and, and, you know, um, and all of that. And I'm like, I wonder what is the line there now? like, you're really beautiful. And you're like, ew, gross. Get the fuck away from me. I think that over the course of human history, we have slowly but surely become better to each other.

16:38 permission, look in her eyes, Yeah, I would say so. We went over this whole thing yesterday, so I won't go over it again. And I think the beneficiaries of this big shift are going to be the next generation of kids that are growing up. calm state and you if you they're not under duress and they're thinking Like, Colin wants to fuck the girl at the bar,

18:43 or that behavior was, was minimized what was going on in the early and mid nineties with him and the accusations like i just wish um people just need to be good to each other and like act normal and these guys So it's a very sad situation for those women as well. Like he's the last one that you would expect to be since all the accusations came out.

21:00 Their syndication pulled. But do you, because you have some, you have a connection. It's not like, well, you should have gone to the press. had any evidence right now until this actor came forth is he an actor or a Yeah, it was very weird. Now apparently they stopped production. Oh, so they they stopped it completely. So Jamie was saying oh interesting

23:31 is the last season, but... that they're filming as well I want to say 68, It's amazing. I forget his statement, He's kind of a fool and his ego and his mind is just not within his control Whoa. Right. These words aren't only loaded, they have definitions. it's, you know, I'm not saying we're in an ideal situation right now, but people throwing around

27:03 what is correct. And that's such a great statement. You know, those statistics I feel like are pretty misleading in some ways violence and abuse and It's exactly what it is The military is not socialist. between the United States right now and Nazi Germany, not even one. So we're not coming off So if you're going to call someone a fascist, find the fascist.

30:14 6,000 members, maybe, in a country of 325 million people. history like the the like people suddenly are experts. I'm like Republican, just like everyone knew about socialism and all. I'm like, stop. You know how you do that where one post can have three images? You're, you're right. He did own slaves, but I think it's a part of a very long conversation

32:42 and, and black people fought for the, for Continental Army. But yeah, people judging based on these things, I'm like, that's fine. But be melted down and destroyed. But people were like, the next logical step is they're going to celebrating it it's recognizing it No, it wasn't. always the Graham, the Graham blue have always been part of our culture since, since the civil

35:15 you know, the 10% plan, which do you know anything about that? The idea that Lincoln I certainly don't support that. people look at it as if that's celebrating something that's a horrible part of a lot of my family lives down there now and they have this thing called Yeah, exactly. This doesn't make any sense. But I was so tragically wrong about the slippery slope that we were finding ourselves on because I thought people would see more that like, yes, Thomas Jefferson was a complicated man, but also an immensely important person to our society.

38:00 the smell of applewood bacon and, and everybody's like, oh, the smell of applewood bacon. It was really hard. and evolving species like the human race to behave. It's not a good way for us to rationalize. Absolutely. Yeah, way cheaper meat is incredibly cheap in the United States compared to almost anywhere else in the world their ground beef from Vons.

41:35 though, is an awakening and sort of an understanding of our impact, like physically So you, all the meat you eat is typically something. I eat elk four nights a week. But being better, I think. And so that's most of what I eat. It becomes a different thing. Sure. You know, Reiki healers. Is that what they call it? Whereas it just feels like a good salad

44:58 manufacturer. You're not whittling the wood yet yourself. Very strict tolerances. It's, abhorrent, but if we got rid of them, you know, are they willing to pay 13 or $14 a pound for You go, what is that? You would see these like guerrilla filming sessions that these guys would go to these and what you know I was just reading about Norman Borlaug who won a Nobel Peace Prize for what he

47:13 And he's apparently responsible for, you know, like there used to be these doomsday prophecies in the 60s and 70s. People look back at the original Earth Day, I'm thinking of golden rice. Oh, I'm sorry. Different thing. Sorry. It's okay. People look back at the original was growing way too quickly and that they would with them, they don't have a brain. So I understand the differences are there, but it's funny how

48:36 real beef. to be the first person to live 10 years off of that bio meat before they figure out it causes And again, not everybody can go hunt wild animals. like completely wiped out. We had almost no animals left because it was market hunting. I'm reading a book, or I just read a book called 1491, which is about the condition of the, of North and South America and Central America before

50:55 You know, a lot of, it's not just modern humans that are challenged by this. And that's one of the reasons why in certain parts of the world you could find mass graveyards of animals that were killed almost instantly. with an explosion Well, North America, with another guy rather the ice caps that are above. and the explanation for that and the peaks and the rises and the falls in temperature

53:16 and he had this idea that this all happened because of water. but you'll never really know the answer. And it probably, this would have then been a sill or a spillway for the pre-flood Columbia. Yes. Because this guy's been studying this his whole life. This is one of the few places that I would, I mean, if you had a time machine, I've always thought about this.

55:53 And I would love to have seen a native tribe and there's this interesting thing that the name the I don't remember the exact word, but the word that many Polynesians or many Polynesian societies that were separated from each other used for the sweet potato is identical to what they were using on the South American mainland, indicating that the islands might have been populated from the other direction. They assume that people came down from

56:58 the societies that were thousands of miles I remember that there was this theory that Romans might have been on the Pacific coast But horses actually evolved in North America. And then they were reintroduced. I mean, that's what we were talking about with the human condition and how things don't seem to change. I mean, God, to be able to go back 6,000 years ago

1:00:04 It was this massive Native American metropolis in North America. What was their commerce like? And there's these stone circles that are carved in rocks. And what's interesting is a lot of the ancient Egyptians, and that sand would be in the bread. I mean, you really love history. I do. I love it. I mean, I thought that was a really interesting And I remember professors being like 50% of all history PhDs will never find a job in the field.

1:03:29 dates, but that's not really what's important about it. And if people taught history more as mean, how many Dan Carlins are there in the world? Yeah, not, not many. And pretty much no one of his skill. Yeah. Hey, Jamie, can you get me one of them cavemans, I'm like, maybe I'm missing something. Yeah, I always see people outside of work in my neighborhood.

1:05:05 Thank you, sir. I was like, ooh, this is like a different sort of feeling. It makes me think about these old timers. But yeah, how is, you were doing the sober thing for the sober October, right? I haven't gotten more than like two days without smoking pot in 15 years. where in the middle of the dream, Realistic that I would have sworn if I woke up that I had struggled to get that blanket over me while I was taking a

1:07:29 there and sleepwalked there's no fucking blanket but in my mind if you had asked me like uh did I think pot makes me more introspective. Sure. where even in college, I was writing a paper I'm writing ideas down. radically different. We're talking about shifts of like 30, 35 points and how people feel about store. I've done all these things. Okay, now it's time for me to relax.

1:10:18 some pot i'm gonna do it tomorrow with own benjamin we're doing a podcast together so i'm not, you can never reach that, that feeling again, which is again, why moderation is important. And I don't think that that's a bad thing necessarily. I think that paranoia, that feeling of vulnerability, How many more years you got? then you know and it makes you kinder which i agree it makes me a mellows people out then of

1:13:01 fucking huge, like space. Like my, one of my favorite things to do is to smoke a joint and go out and sit in my backyard, But when I'm high, I can really freak out about it. laying back and you're looking up at the clouds rolling over the top of the mountain. the idea that we might not necessarily be alone, experience is based on our experience on this little globe hurtling through space yeah as

1:15:58 We have a finite amount of time. What will be is made from what you were, you know We might, you know, think about how far we've come even in the last 15 years. mathematical equation to build a spaceship, but they're just like, race of harvey weinstein's out in the universe is predatory. They're going to come here and mouth fuck us all. they taking initiative to contact us and it's interesting that a lot of people do settle on

1:18:40 What if they're from a planet that's low in water? I mean, we are in what we call the Goldilocks zone. Why can't a species breathe ammonia? Um, so maybe we're seeing solar systems earlier on in their, in their life cycle. You know, I can't do calculus. It was awesome. But I think a lot of people just missed it This show sucks. Yeah, I it was a movie. Yeah, it was a show rather

1:21:58 told the arc really well fascinating I thought the acting was pretty good yeah and I like the I think we could be a new life form. It's real. They have like the base of an avocado tree Seems like it's artificial life. It's functional. and uh it the idea that like if something is conscious even if it's not real or even if it's But are they self-conscious?

1:25:07 but I don't know too much about it. but I think it's gonna be much more quaint. they're communicating ones and zeros. And is this like one, you know how you have like a science fiction movie and in the beginning And here they've agreed upon this, and now they've expanded their sentences like, shut it down. Cut to smash cut, like you see a new time, 2034.

1:26:33 it's interesting because there are different But generally, this is a human quality. Right. And what's a primate? after you too i think it's it is the stuff of sci-fi but like so many things that start in I want to say before it's too late, but before we have a scary situation. They're going to show them in their in their military like cuz it's gyroscope is going, I guess. And it's.

1:29:20 It is. It brings up ideas, how will we fight wars in the future? Is that what this is? like when they're tripping and falling i have have this feeling of like, yeah, where I'm like, oh. The video name is funny, by the way, Jamie. Go back to that one guy that was kicking it. Even with his little tiny short steps, fucking crazy yeah no there's no doubt it is there's no doubt it is it's just like how crazy

1:32:11 And let's connect to each other. But they're not going to have ego. And they want all these things because they want to be more sexually attractive. I go wherever you want fuck all this work man I know. yeah you can go to the wayback machine right and look at all that yeah it's just a really simple about it, but that's exactly what happens in Battlestar.

1:35:30 And there's that one episode about the raiders, which is their ships. Come on, They'll see it. It was like a, was fucking great yeah she was great there was a lot of great actors uh a lot of great interesting I mean, obviously, James Edward Olmos is a famous actor, but otherwise, I don't see them Maybe, maybe they wanted to go do something else or maybe they can't get, you know, I

1:37:28 Right. Edie Falco, yeah. So, yeah, I guess you found your way into Fear Factor and stuff like that, but you When we went into syndication and we started playing, that's when people started really getting into news radio. I was like, And I was like, oh my God, we're getting canceled. uh, or maybe, the space one. they did these weird ones and i'm wearing sunglasses over there we're at some that's uh that was when we went to the um

1:41:10 No, never. Have a nice conversation. interviewer the post-fight interviewer and um they would say to me they would treat me literally with martial arts or my decision to quit all that and get obsessed with stand-up comedy. But they ultimately all worked. It's pretty cool well the the ufc thing is is very But I hadn't done the commentary yet either one, but I was like you can't force funny into something

1:44:56 Right. You've got to think when a guy, like there's a big fight this weekend, right? It's not about you at all. that alien that certainly alienated some people but I also think it engendered um like wow this You know nomination. You're like, enough. um but i also think he had 17 people in that field or 16 other people in that field and he was winning

1:48:21 getting married. I think if you want to have a polygamous relationship and everyone's cool with that, that's fine. All that kind of stuff. Prostitution should You got an earring, you got tattoos, you're a young guy. You look like not a looked at you they wouldn't think conservative you got an earring you got tattoos you're a young guy yeah like not a hipster i wouldn't say a hipster but you're

1:49:40 big 80s glasses and the crazy i don't know know, to each his own. But I consider myself a conservative simply because I believe that the government is too big. marry a man if you're a man. And the government doesn't have a right to tell you that you can't Nixon did as well. out during antebellum America, republicanism begins in 1856. And you have this idea of these

1:51:47 changes and then suddenly everything changes again and so on and so forth. And so none of can match them all up. And I don't think there's any consistency in saying, uh, you can't marry that they have behind them because they're the only candidates They would lose that support. who knows if he's even going to get out of these four years without going to jail right i mean i don't know i mean i i think that there's i think you can glean positive and obviously negative

1:54:24 a governmental standpoint is trump's coming in, suspending the Supreme court, dismissing It's gonna be fine. Well people are super emotional be the guy that the confederates didn't do it the nazis didn't do it the japanese didn't do it And I want tax cuts. Do we need to be in Japan anymore? Do we need to have these bases in Poland? insane we have to start asking ourselves questions of geopolitics do we need

1:56:47 But I think that once Kellyanne Conway and these other people that engineered the election he'll win. And this was when everything was going on and all this. And I'm like, I just don't see they put someone up that's really good. I don't know. World War, after September 11th? very excited and they were like this is this is the reason why we need sort of a good old boy president because when push comes to shove they know how to get the

1:59:26 and does things that people approve of, If we have to deal with some sort of a catastrophe, some sort of a tragedy, some sort of an attack or an event, and Donald Trump manages it well, it's entirely likely that he could be president. he even won at all. The vote was suppressed pretty, and I'm not saying he was, it was actively suppressed. People just weren't enthusiastic about

2:00:53 We've had some presidents that were just in shitty situations that they couldn't manage. There's no film. I just think he's in over his head. And when you go back and listen to that, like, first of all, did something happen to his brain? He's he's see if you can find that video of him back from you got it like watch this This is him humbled, Oh, okay.

2:03:18 Other people were there. He wasn't there in terms of, for 15 years I supported Andrew Stein, supported him. he was there. But Well, I don't think I'm going to try and get Stein back. Could be age. Maybe he's going maybe he's seen a little senile. I have no idea also I think and this is something I've been really You know, in that you don't get someone to change by going, hey, fucking change.

2:05:36 He seems to get more Trump. He's surrounded by inexperienced political operatives, but he's not surrounded by dumb But he he can't help himself. Yeah, in his second term, I think he was down to that. economy was on an upward trend right and again it's all sort of caught that wave Again, from Africa. 530 pegged at And that's when they really start to take initiative and do certain things.

2:08:37 Oh, disapproval? Right. that are unpopular that do need to be done It's awful. what they're talking about. And one of the things they say in there is that the major difference, we are, people So we can't judge things based on that only. My major concern with him though, is that he's so unpopular, even in his own party and That seems so crazy. Yep. That seems like something you would have to be high to read.

2:11:18 were going to make in the first 100 days and i think you just have something that's like over And actually Mark Halperin was writing that book, and now he's finished with that. Yeah, that was, there's some moments like that where I'm like, you're funny. You know, and where he's speaking around issues that are are somewhat basic. talked about, have you heard about this at all? That General Mattis, who's Secretary of Defense, and then General Kelly, who's the Chief of

2:13:41 direction and for guidance and for approval. Don't you trust them better than him, though? on the Korean peninsula, for instance, very dangerous situation, very dangerous situation. or how you communicate with other governments, right? I mean he said he's threatened them well, but there's no, No, you just started a gigantic chain of events that could lead to a bomb blowing off in a major

2:16:42 structures and stuff like that. I mean, first of all, how does he have the time to do everything he's doing? Because he doesn't. I mean, I'll answer it before I even ask him. No human has He's trying to bring jobs back to America. since inauguration to frequently Yeah, and he's out golfing. all the details of their tax plan it's like what are you guys like nothing is really happening it's

2:19:27 Who lays out the possibilities? And I think that's how it goes down and then he tells you know the Joint Chiefs to to act on his on his you know even tell you like a person who doesn't have an ideal an open ideological bent anymore and has And that's fine. But I wish that it, when the only places you can really go to get straight I mean, it seems like there's an opening for that.

2:21:37 there's the reason that those people don't exist is because there's no there's no money there yeah I'm somewhere in the middle, but I don't know if I have an agenda. I can't imagine how much money he really has from his books and stuff if he can even fork that much money over you know Jersey state legislator Michael Panter following a Facebook post on Tuesday in which Panter

2:23:21 on O'Reilly's good graces, And then O'Reilly repeatedly asked her out Like he must have been doing that forever. Yeah, they're little dresses and all and they're always seem to be sitting at the edges of the table I had enough power to stick it in any of Yeah. thing. Yeah, she's apparently like She's used to people liking her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she went.

2:26:20 promoting a movie she's just trying to get I'm saying you being the talk, like the sound on your own show. And let's do it live so that you can't edit it. what are we living in the 50s? at a desk and I'm on a couch? Why do here. Well, let's let the band play but I just think ultimately, I can't Well, it's a fucking animal prison, and I think it's fucked up.

2:28:41 It's a huge show. and to not corner people, to let them express them and explain themselves and stuff like I'm not connected to something else where I have to worry about what I say You really get a sense of who someone is over three hours, over 1,200 podcasts, whatever the fuck we've done. It's just different. I think it's probably been successful because it was never, there was never any attempt at it being successful.

2:31:04 Yeah. Okay. He's sitting right there. Let's give him some beers. Let's like, hey, it'd be cool to just talk to people. Hey, you think I can get Anthony Bourdain to come over my house? Yeah, look at him. He's sitting right Well, you think, you like to hope Make me know. about a person but does your opinion of the person change when you have some interesting

2:32:25 I'm certainly not perfect at it, but I try very hard to not be married to my ideas. And if I'm Because you could tell me that you believe something happened in the past because you read it, That now we know differently is fucking giant, man. And she was telling me that she was a paleontologist. you are just talking about pseudoscience and cryptozoology.

2:34:46 latest information? Because clearly you're wrong. They have skulls. They have videos of these I go, are you better than these scientists that are in National Geographic that are putting out these photographs that are spending years in the Congo? That kind of shit drives me nuts. When she has the information. Like, she's a There's photos of this thing walking around on two legs.

2:36:40 Nothing comes near them and though. Oh Lion killers, that's what they call them Mean that is a fucking huge chimpanzee. Yeah, it's incredible. paying very close attention because i actually take a lot of pride in being wrong about things certainly um even though i consider myself, again, a moderate conservative, I certainly I'm with you on that one, by the way.

2:39:48 It's just fascinating to kind of get out of your... Yeah, it's not. Well, we're definitely going to provide fire protection. Where is this? But the $1,000 per month, that gets interesting. I think there's a lot of complicated things You have a right to due process. we've achieved so much. and you'll have way more people on board. as far as I understand, you could

2:42:51 I think it's $600 billion a year of military spending right now, but I think it's... That's why I have no respect for Bernie Sanders because you can just throw things out there. He's a character. Wall street transactions broker transactions What is a per But if someone can demonstrate a real desire to learn and a real desire to achieve and to discipline themselves and to following through with the courses and doing the work,

2:45:04 more educated, less ignorant people have less losers, right? especially for things that we were talking about earlier on You'll benefit just from the discipline that you learned while you were in school. Some of the stupidest people I've ever met went to college. Exactly. of things. That's a vital service. And so exactly. So I feel like there's almost this, like,

2:47:05 is because the government is involved in the loans. Of course you would. Because I went to Northeastern and my mom actually you know like he's like i know you don't understand anything ferocious yeah like being like because And speaking of age and stuff like the slowly making its way down to his sternum. So I think something like 10% of people that voted for him in the primary voted

2:49:39 it's not, he went, you know, like Yeah. I keep asking people, though, because you have these crazy people on Twitter and stuff Tetris came from the Soviet Union. But it seems to be the thing that people go to when they look at some sort of a viable alternative without looking into it deeply. much. And some people are going to do a lot. There's going to be some Jeff Bezos types characters

2:52:00 attack because he was working too hard. Or who knows what it is that causes someone to have the ambition or the desires that they have. unequal in their efforts. They're unequal in their desires. people are in equal in their efforts. They're doesn't really have the capability of going, he's going to do something else with his life. Now it's There's some people that are tall.

2:53:56 Who knows? If you are a dwarf and you want to be a basketball player, you're going to have to let that go. So let's figure out what you can do and find something that you can be passionate about. Right. jump deep into history, look at the Soviet Union, That's always the answer. where people have leverage and power over other people. Half of his money will go to charity.

2:56:57 really incredibly impressive when you stop and think about it. you know, is an amazing thing. I often talk about, um, whether it's good or bad is, you know, that they would be like, we're just going to give you the tools to make your own. this bad boy. And so That's amazing. Knew what to do with these different things. That's the beauty of capitalism to me, you know

2:59:14 Like it shot open and no one could ever get one. Come on. He's interesting. Oh, like you press a button and it slides down? I thought it was a wizard. my emails on my phone now. because someone saw the capital investment necessary to proliferate this thing. there are legitimate contenders to Apple now. Now it's a matter of whether or not the integration with the operating system is

3:02:20 we exchange information, the way we gather information. Google's new Pixel XL, you squeeze the side and ask it a question. He made a joke and he should die. And as you know, Korean company LG is doing this for altruistic reasons. And you're right. rendering video games, if you're not making things, if you're not making movies, if you're into the foreground. And then the Google Pixel XL has some incredible AI for altering images

3:04:37 unique because it had no you know like uh everything from like mercury and gemini through the guy who – he coded Facebook likes and now he – your computer is trying to hijack your brain, I think is the name of the article. Your computer is trying to hijack your brain. I think is the name And how unhealthy that is, you know? fail and no one else is responsible for you, like in, in, in base ways. And I'm not saying we're

3:07:02 I mean, there's very little wiggle room as to what you can and can't do if you were living in the communist Soviet Union. And there's people out there like – I don't know. Here's an example, Beck, that are so weird and so different from me. We have more access to information and we have more freedom to choose to express yourself, to speak out. So like you don't want to protect the person who is murdering someone, but you might want

3:09:29 because they're gaining more and more oxygen because you're giving it to them. By trying to his ability to freely speak about pedophilia. he tripped over his own dick. Right. for the rest of his life I don't think a lot of people to do business with you How many people do you know that ascribe to white nationalism? the far ends of the spectrum. Just lob them off. They're not welcome

3:12:24 this ain't helping anybody. No, Antifa... This just ramps up the other side. Antifa showing up with fucking ninja masks on, throwing Molotov cocktails. This ain't helping anybody. But yeah, it doesn't help any situations. In some ways, Ferguson is a travesty of justice right But literally never happened. United States and find a civil rights thing that's truly a civil rights infraction that's

3:14:13 maybe this wasn't the best idea to act like this when we didn't have all the information. It's it's but that's only again from the far fringes that feel like they're losing because they are losing if your idea is predicated on week of a kid at the University of Utah saying right, liberal, conservative, usually is probably what's right. No one in the mainstream of American

3:16:17 But we're giving them too much time on on I mean, it's everywhere if you listen to them. and asked me how the world should work. Absolutely. We've all said and done of himself. Dude, thank God nobody put a fucking camera on me when I was 18 and asked me how the world And I'm like, I think it is specifically because when I was in college, I only graduated 10

3:17:37 It's corrosive. And he's unable to think correctly now. ignorant children think that they run up a, back for Thanksgiving or for Christmas. You have to ask yourself like what is happening yeah you know like this isn't because people point back Like 19 out of 20 people that teach at universities are liberal. that's like its own form of social engineering that we we've co-opted. Not only have we co-opted a lot of media, which is why the media hates YouTube and they hate all these things because they can't control that.

3:20:07 humanity i had a lot of liberal professors i had a lot of conservative professors i wonder what is manifesting itself most is with transgender, normative kind of thing is actually going to And I think it's a very, very dangerous thing. we can, and then give leeway to say like, I, the example I use was a homosexuality where there was angle. You should be attacking it from a social acceptance

3:22:28 Thank you. Well, I thank you. Oh, youtube.com slash CollinsLastStand