Joe Rogan Experience #1044 — C.T. Fletcher Transcript

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0:00 All right, CT, we're live. It's great, man. It's like they just went deep into your life and to everything, the struggles, the heart condition, the whole deal, man. Joe, but I'm still here. intense, healthy guy and you're, you're fit and you're healthy guy and you're you're fit and you're I'm 58. Man, that's intense. Yeah. the actual transplant. And they said that I'm a good candidate and everything's looking up

3:53 Shit, I didn't think so either. from the internet, right? So that's pretty much So have you worked with a lot of MMA fighters? Your light is killing me. My take on it is the bigger the muscle, the more power you have. out how to do pretty brilliantly is how to conserve his energy into these bursts and and then now like who said that I on the internet. I attacked him

7:06 And I want to do that because I don't want you to think I'm just an asshole. What? to try to get you on the podcast look, don't bother Joe. He's busy. He don't know who the fuck I am. I'm not, you know, maybe Joe just don't like my ass. you know, that motherfucker don't know Yeah. Oh, man, I understand. But I've never paid for any of the fake ones.

9:34 So it's not a matter of me not liking people. if you get a tweet from me, it's from me. I wanted to get your attention. I said, oh, man. I was trying to explain that I know you have to have known guys like this that are naturally, then you were born with the cardiovascular system, the lungs, and whatnot, In some cases. you're going to have the same cardiovascular

12:58 he has the the cardiovascular system and the support system that's designed for that build You have to be able to explode. They can be fat, smooth, butterball, and still, you know, it's not because of the musculature that they, you know, just bigger guy, period, would have a hard time being a marathon runner. It's a little major system. Oprah doped into the marathon in like 4 hours and 20 minutes recently

15:14 yeah Boss Root Right, right. you know, you didn't get that muscle the bag? Oh my God. Tremendous. I'm like, that's a fucking crazy method. his mind around wow yeah he's ferocious. Yeah, he's one of the best of all let me see how to put this. You could rest, and then he would use you're on top like you get a break you know you can you Yeah. Sure. When you got that built muscle, that built muscle tires out real fast.

19:18 Are you aware of Francis Ngannou? Francis Ngannou beat the second place by some insane amount of power. Oh, my God. And he made his way into a gym. fighting Alistair Overeem, There's like 14 KOs plus knocked out in his career, That's what it's going to be. which was also a really interesting fight. other than he submitted one guy in the octagon And he's also still learning and growing.

22:29 Potential is unbelievable. it's like i say think the same thing about john jones like john jones i think could have done did and he I don't know what the fuck's going on with this recent positive drug test. drug-free. Yeah, 100% or 81, I believe it was. Right. I didn't think. Right. I couldn't wait to go out and get some of them amino acids and shit, man.

25:06 I said, what's that? And I said, I don't know if I should say the doctor's name. told me if I want to be a professional and be like Arnold Franklin the rest of I don't know if it does I had a bad attitude going in. So I had a really bad attitude. And I love all that shit. Nobody told me. Clomid. That kills your boners. I'd rather be 110 pounds soaking wet and still be able to get my boner.

28:49 because I decided, I take two months off, And that stuff, it definitely, definitely. I thought I was ready for fucking Mr. And then some. but i don't know i don't know how true that is i felt like that uh uh every single thing I mean, you just, that's what you get married for, so you can have sex every day. the first time ever you know he was married like you know like oh no no no no anything that's gonna

31:57 a few times when I was But he was stronger than me. Well, it makes sense. I mean, it definitely makes sense that the appeal would be so strong. clean and then the next year he went to this russian doctor and said just fucking juice me up He's in protective custody in America right now, Like rhythmic gymnastics. That's bullshit. And a lot of people are.

35:30 who decide to take Roids because, like I said, I'm a 21-year-old kid, and I took them. So how the fuck can I talk shit about anybody who decides to make the same decision flipping pies or whatever, whatever unfair. So if they for the fighters today we Damn. Were they on things? They're not testing you? Pull up that picture of Fedor with the kettlebells.

38:30 things going on later in his career, but it seems like when he came to America, one of the first I think so, too. Fedor. That was huge. That's a huge We had lunch together and got to know him even better, man. watched it i'll tell you why because it's because it's fuel everybody who wants to do something in It energizes the people that are watching. Like every time you put out up and talk about things, it energizes the

40:39 career in order, get their life in order, if you don't like what I'm saying, People would come, you know. So I would leave with my little plaques and shit under my arm. Get the fuck out of here, man. They're not for you anyway. And I'm like, hey, if you go pussy out that fucking fast, take your fucking ass back on. I used up all my sick leave and stuff

42:42 it's bullshit So I stayed out too long. Yeah, everything for a year. training job. I'm walking around trying to get a personal training they couldn't. Like, there's a difference between the kind of effort and focus that you want to put in and go, listen, I just want every day to give 100%. one person told me to go into the bathroom. I never seen him no more. No explanation. Didn't even say. One person told me, go into the bathroom.

45:18 My first career as a power lifter, I didn't get injured. Wow, even Dorian. That's what I credit, too, exactly. When you told that story about getting a gun because you were supposed to go and apologize to the teacher because you had said something to the teacher. Yeah. man. sir. I've been doing this my whole fucking life. can I interview you for YouTube?

47:58 yeah, fuck it. He's a Korean War vet and a preacher. If it wasn't gospel music, it was a sin to listen to. I'm still fighting this dude because I'm still carrying around this hate. And he says, because he's so much like me. Did you guys never worked it out? They asked him, do you have any good recollections of when CT growing up, when his childhood,

50:52 to see what this motherfucker is going to say to this questioner. was ready to go off but he didn't have any so when he didn't have any files okay now that's the same that he has anything to be sorry for. Yeah. you know that i always you know blamed you for and and i'm and i'm sorry i you know i don't you know be out of breath if I did anyway. So do you communicate regularly now?

53:26 burden. they recognize But, yeah, I have a super, super time. that kid but but also joe you know what good came out of that the childhood that the kind of childhood that I went through I get It's because of that, because I can talk about my childhood and it helps so many other I count it as a blessing, man. Yeah. Oh, my God. And I told them. They create their own borders.

57:49 All the time. There's no other way around it. They can't handle it. Press that button, get the fuck up Do you really feel better after nine minutes? People need to hear you. I don't want to hear no excuses. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But this is Gregory talking, not me. Yeah, there you go. They like to, and most of those people are out of shape. Yeah. That's what's going to happen.

1:02:13 like you who's already accomplished See, I didn't even think Joe Rogan knew who the fuck I was, man. and way, way more than I are going to keep watching after you say it? A lot. to Metro Flakes. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. men, everything. About 120 people operating table and I'm sitting said oh yeah I was never upset at you at all. I said, hey, Joe, you're absolutely 100% right.

1:05:09 You're absolutely right. Thank you. and it was during the fucking gas crisis when the gas lines were super long. I wanted to call it my last will and testament. I have so many people telling me, oh, CT, don't worry about it. So this is a permanent record of how I deal with, you know, being in a situation where I could possibly die. You guys be able to talk all the shit you want to.

1:07:57 Yeah. I ain't tough. And I want you to, you know, I'm I'm rude. Experience is, to me, still the best teacher. Now it was lower, you know, years ago. pills, Joe. Not good or, you know, great. Yes, for 11 and a half of those years. Like Cali Muscle, I remember I put him through a workout. Yeah, G-Willigers. How'd he do? He fell off of a car. You know, he's like close to 300 fucking pounds.

1:12:04 He's got an interesting story himself. And the good thing about him, he's the same way on and off YouTube. He's jacked. in our train of thought and how we think. they say you know mr. first you can go out there and in front of all those Hell yeah. if I was writing a movie script, it couldn't be any his UFC won in 1993 changed the world yeah change the world because people

1:14:37 I had no idea what it was. I think that's why you're the best at what you do, because you get your ass in there and you actually experience it. I'm comfortable in front of a microphone doing a podcast. Oh, yeah. They're rehydrated. art oh shit i i know i'm just being uh well i can imagine i'm going around the world giving If I was 21, I couldn't do it.

1:17:21 I'd be tight-tongued. I was talking with a buddy of mine because I started stand-up at 21, Wow. You old bastard. You know, I dyed my beard for the Joe Rogan show. You look good with a black beard, though. for this fucking shit, man. Get in there, work it out. Oh, yeah, you're doing all the vegan diet now, huh? I'm not doing it because of that. They could have been a Mooney.

1:19:58 And they attack. Did you know that if you were vegan that this would be less suffering? I just don't eat meat. like sugar fucks people up. and cholesterol, which is literally the substrate for hormone production. Like cholesterol is Yeah, yeah. That's true. If you get carbohydrates, get sugar in the world it's attached to an apple you know yeah No, I'm not a vegan.

1:23:26 they make sure they get their fatty acids, And I'm open to it. What kind of shit? I'm a fan of plant-based protein. necessarily, your body's not breaking it down before Joe kicks me the fuck off. You know, when we were going back and forth, I remember one of the questions that I had to ask you. But if you, it's really based on my mom. retarded because of my mom.

1:26:11 I think people are too sensitive, and then on top of that, people are looking to tell That's where I remember mostly. I remember very early when I was very young, my mom being healthy. So if I'm still alive, I still have life. And you're still alive. Yeah. They do need to hear that. And maybe they learn these patterns from their family. record for chin-ups.

1:29:02 I believe that too. Most people get a little read on I love those guys Like he was like fat and terrible diet and poor health and poor depression, the whole Decided to. If you just decide tomorrow, first of all, if you decide tomorrow you're going to be a disciplined, focused person, And if you keep building six months from now, you'll be unrecognizable.

1:30:46 That's everything in this life. And then people like you, because you've had a lifetime of this discipline and dedication and obsession, that reinforces it in people's heads. hard sparring and i did a lot of hard sparring there's one kid in particular who is a really like inspiration and motivation and even information, And I was around people that I was watching their ability to talk and their cognitive functioning decay.

1:33:18 I was doing amateur fights, and I got offered a pro fight for like, And so I just decided early on. I thought he was going to hit me. Yeah. I mean, you feel powerless. and i said you can't hit someone i go just because you hit your husband doesn't mean you can hit other people. And I pushed him again. Especially if you don't think someone's going to punch you and then they do.

1:35:53 The police had to go over the, he claimed I hit him. Fuck yeah. If in real life when people meet me, I'm always friendly. Right, right. their day off guilty oh Well, they want to make you feel bad. Almost all of it There's not even people you're using big words, the intent behind it is very small minded. Right. But, man, the people, other people don't look at it like that.

1:38:47 there's so many man, direct message. They just want people to look at me. There's not necessarily always a consensus about how someone's doing something right, Right. It's just impossible. that was not that long ago. that have been sort of devised along the way. And nobody really knows how to do it for you. They're not trying to copy. Don't be just like me, motherfucker.

1:41:47 But eventually you got to find yourself. Oh, were you doing that a lot? Thai bowl. Billy now, I say, Billy, I thank you You know, like, Billy was knocked out before, too, in point karate tournaments. Yeah. of all I love it but not because of what he did in the ring. Oh, man. Jack. You don't want to talk about boxing. You know, even though I work for UFC.

1:44:36 That's what it is. i met him at a at a fight a ufc fight and he was the humblest. He was so nice, man. he does his jujitsu and his kickboxing and all the other stuff but on top of that like he does I couldn't really figure out why these guys liked me so much. can you do a one-arm pull-up? I said, no, I can't Fighters need motivation. You don't put on any false airs.

1:47:09 You're swimming, you're running, you're doing this, you're doing that. because he had the testicular fortitude That crowd makes a big fucking difference, Joe. and I went straight to Compton, man. Oh, it's amazing. They're better inside the cage They're at their best. How many times do you want me to hit this dude? No, he's trying to kill him. so I'm not going to do it.

1:51:04 But when you're going in the ring if that's really and then as you get older you just realize like what this is really that you're doing so you think I'm real good at it. But he's talked about coming back now. He's a good example also of someone who cut weight when they shouldn't have. Oh, my God. He just was so drained. I mean, who knows? totally exactly yeah he's totally there he's not suffered the damage that a lot of fighters have

1:54:21 Oh, my God. Go home. that are involved in this high-level problem-solving event. I won't miss it. That is true. Yeah, it's too much traveling, man. Really, it will really run you the fuck down, man. That was before someone else started doing like picking up This weekend, I'm working in Detroit the night before the UFC. you'll be rusty up there. You will get a rare dummy.

1:57:11 And what I said I really mean. Well, listen, man, keep us posted with your health,